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IB Surfer

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Feb 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/12/97
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For those of you who may remember, several months ago I made a plea to my
fellow surfers for a little spare change to help me improve my quiver.
All I was asking for was enough cash to add a snappy shortboard, a big
wave gun and a hybrid to the three boards I already ride. Any extra cash
was to go for a sponge or possibly a kneeboard.

Thanks to the generosity of many alt.surfers, I managed to scrape together
a grand total of $0.00, several "are you for reals?" and one rather
eloquent "BITE ME. KOOK!"

However, I must add that one piece of advice did come in handy. The world
renowned reclusive author of "Bill Morris: STOKED" suggested that I try
his practice of bringing a shotgun to the lineup in order to allow
selection of nearly any ride around. Taking my own read of this, I
purchased a 12 ga. stainless steel Mossberg pump with synthetic stock
(this seemed the best choice for the harsh sea conditions).

I now have over 40 boards, most obtained from the Monterey area.
Unfortunately, I believe that I have seriously overhunted that particular
area. Like any good wildlife manager, I propose to set size limits and
seasons in order to maintain the varied surfboard species for future
generations, and I strongly suggest that any other potential board hunters
comply. The following are suggested:

June 1 - Sept 30 - one longboard per day/five in posession, except in
certain S. CA counties where no limit shall apply.

Oct 10 - March 1 - any combination of five shortboards or bodyboards per
day with a maximum of 20 in posession. A size limit will apply for the
shortboard species - anything shorter than 5'10" (commonly known as
"groms" or "gremmies") shall be immediately released to grow larger and
more hostile for next year.

Jan 1 - March 1 - one big wave gun per season. Considered "Big Game," a
special "Wave Gun Lottery" will be held in October to determine who will
be awarded permits to participate in the hunt. Applications must be
postmarked prior to September 31 to be eligible.

At this time, method of take will be limited to verbal or physical abuse,
including the use of firearms, provided that no projectiles composed of
lead may be used. It has been determined that lead may have an adverse
affect on the habitat of surfers. Taking the lead of the US Fish and
Wildlife Service, the use of steel and bismuth projectiles will be
permitted.

Of course, these restrictions are initially based upon data drawn for the
waters off the California coast. As surfboard management is still in it's
infancy, I would certainly expect these rules to be refined. If there are
any comments or other observations that could otherwise impact the setting
of seasons and limits, I would be pleased to accept them.

Good wave hunting -
Brian

CafeMojo

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Brian@ibSurfer wrote,

>...I believe I have seriously over-hunted the Monterey area, and like any
good wildlife manager, I propose to set limits & seasons in order to
maintain the varied surfbourd species for generations...

Here! Here! Brian!....and very well put!

While we here on the Outerbanks of the right~coast are sincerely trying to
manage our wild life, ...serious over-hunting of some local species have
depleted
their numbers to now-endangered status, if not total extinction.

Some species in particular we are trying to save from total annihilation
are
the Great Horn-Billed Foondog, the Bourbon-Beaked Foonhawk, and the
rare & elusive Tequila-Faced Mojo-Loon.

We here at CafeMojo applaud & support your wave-hunting conservation
efforts,
and strongly encourage fellow surfers everywhere to also lend their
support.

So please brahs', always remember, if you're not gonna ride it or eat
it,...
don't kill it...always Practice Catch & Release!.....it's the right thing
to do!

Stoked & Loaded,
cap'n ron
CafeMojo
http://members.aol.com/cafemojo/index.html

( While I think the Mossberg Pump w/synthstock is an excellent weapons
choice,
I myself prefer dual Glock 9mm pistols w/ 17Shot clips of teflon-coated
CK ammo. They're waterproof, lightweight, easy to use while surfing
and can be used single-handed. )

NewSunPub

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Feb 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/13/97
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Brian,

Nicely done. Enjoyed this post. Glad you got the 40 Plus boards. Ever
tried using a Derringer in a pinch? (I've been successful in pulling mine,
capping a shortboarder dropping in, and stowing it in my wet suit sleeve
again before my bottom turn...)

Best to your continued hunting success.

Bill Morris, Stoked!

Westy79

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Feb 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/15/97
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What is WRONG with you???

gadg...@aol.com

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Feb 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/16/97
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Jeez, Americans and guns.

"The right to bear arms"... whose dumb idea was that?

I think it was a typo, it should have been:
"The right to bare arms",
extolling the virtues of short-sleeve tees.

Huntin' Shootin' & Fishin' [the Web],
Gadget
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Rob(t.) Brannan

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Feb 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/17/97
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In <19970216223...@ladder01.news.aol.com> gadg...@aol.com
writes:
>
>Jeez, Americans and guns.
>
>"The right to bear arms"... whose dumb idea was that?
>

Simple , but flawed American tradition, whose priciple purpose is
to keep the military or government from subjecting the people to
tyranny. An armed citizenry , in theory, is part of the checks and
balances that keeps government from becoming autocratic.

Look at Mexico and the unresponsive flawed "democracy" that they
have and the citizenry is prohibited from owning firearms and the
govt. is still scared of revolt--Chiapas.

gadg...@aol.com

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Feb 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/17/97
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In article <5e91b2$o...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, ro...@ix.netcom.com(Rob(t.) Brannan) writes:

> An armed citizenry , in theory, is part of the checks and
> balances that keeps government from becoming autocratic.

Have you tried voting? Less people get killed that way.

"To give victory to the right, not the bloody bullets, but
peaceful ballots only, are necessary." -- Abraham Lincoln

I'm not being holier than thou.
I've got a 12 bore, but I only shoot what I can eat.
I hear that longpig tastes fine. ;-)

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"A sportsman is a man who, every now and then, simply
has to get out and kill something. Not that he is cruel.
He wouldn't hurt a fly. It's not big enough. -- Steven Leacock
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Feb 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/17/97
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And, occasionally, in the early morning, if you listen closely you may hear the call of the rare homo-surfer-erectus wafting plantifly over to shrouded sandy beach:

"HEY!!! HAAAAYYYY!!! HAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!"

An eary cry. Destine to be repeated. Over and over and over again. In a desparate effort to frighten off others of its kind, seeking to encroach on its own self-percieved territory.

"HEY!!! HAAAAYYYY!!! HAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!"

A cry ignored but oft used, never heeded, never taken seriously. Echoing uselessly across the swells.

"HEY!!! HAAAAYYYY!!! HAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!"

This same call is often echoed by the even more rare homo-surfer-kneelus. A quick moving, stunted relation to the surfer-erectus distinguished by its ability to get in and out of spaces much smaller than the surfer-erectus would even attempt.


Tommy Nefcy
Malibu surfer


Ric Harwood

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Feb 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/17/97
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In alt.surfing, on 17 Feb 1997 07:28:34 GMT
ro...@ix.netcom.com(Rob(t.) Brannan), wrote:

>In <19970216223...@ladder01.news.aol.com> gadg...@aol.com
>writes:
>>
>>Jeez, Americans and guns.
>>
>>"The right to bear arms"... whose dumb idea was that?
>>
>Simple , but flawed American tradition, whose priciple purpose is
>to keep the military or government from subjecting the people to

>tyranny. An armed citizenry , in theory, is part of the checks and

>balances that keeps government from becoming autocratic.

Shame that it doesn't work though.
In my experience of the US it seems that while for the most part we
have more draconian laws than the US they are far more reasonably
applied than over there. [And then by the appropriate authorities.]

>Look at Mexico and the unresponsive flawed "democracy" that they
>have and the citizenry is prohibited from owning firearms and the
>govt. is still scared of revolt--Chiapas.

We have had many recent moves to prohibit the ownership of handguns
here. It probably won't happen, but a restriction to .22 is quite
possible.


Ric.

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nefc...@aol.com

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Feb 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/17/97
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>Jeez, Americans and guns.
>
>"The right to bear arms"... whose dumb idea was that?
>

>I think it was a typo, it should have been:
>"The right to bare arms",
>extolling the virtues of short-sleeve tees.
>
>

I heard that, too. The almanac said it was really, really warm in Philly that year and it was terribly unfashionable to remove ones coat in public (a real social fo-pa) at that time. So this law made lots of sense......

Tommy Nefcy
Malibu surfer


Ric Harwood

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Feb 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/17/97
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In alt.surfing, on 17 Feb 1997 18:53:32 GMT gadg...@aol.com, wrote:

>I'm not being holier than thou.
>I've got a 12 bore, but I only shoot what I can eat.
>I hear that longpig tastes fine. ;-)

FOHHL [Falls of High Horse Laughing.]

Mick Hargreaves

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Feb 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/18/97
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Everyone seems to forget that the amendment reads something like:

"the right to bear arms in a STATE-organized militia"

To me, that means the National Guard (state-run) and doesn't include
groups like that organized by 'Mark from Michigan' and his ilk.
Yeah, our government can't be trusted in a lot of ways, but has
anyone come up with a better one?

The only gun discussion that belongs here would concern guns of the
9-foot variety.

Peace.

Riq de Carvalho

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Feb 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/19/97
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nefc...@aol.com wrote:
> snipped <

> "HEY!!! HAAAAYYYY!!! HAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!"
>
> This same call is often echoed by the even more rare homo-surfer-kneelus. A quick moving, stunted relation to the surfer-erectus distinguished by its ability to get in and out of spaces much smaller than the surfer-erectus would even attempt.
>
The homo-surfer-kneelus once frustrated with the vocal approach reverts
to more basic actions in it's quest for territory;-) coming from behind
and below ( naturally ) on the encroaching surfer-erectus, generally off
a deep bottom turn, the HSK palms off the nose of the intruding stick
and eases it over the back of the wave. This usually causes the HSE to
let forth with that other cry..... WWHHAATTT TH' FFFF....
--
Riq de Carvalho, Oz Kneelo
riq...@ppe.newcastle.edu.au
mens sana in corpore surfo

Daniel Mendiguchia

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Riq de Carvalho <riq...@ppe.newcastle.edu.au> wrote in article
<330B44...@ppe.newcastle.edu.au>...

Perfect...And we thought we were alone...

gadg...@aol.com

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Mick Hargreaves <10502...@CompuServe.COM> writes:

> The only gun discussion that belongs here would concern
> guns of the 9-foot variety.

That's packing quite a piece. <g>

Just to be serious for a nanosecond; here, here, Mick.

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ADAM DOBRIN

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In article <5ecdfm$hh6$4...@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> Mick Hargreaves <10502...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>From: Mick Hargreaves <10502...@CompuServe.COM>
>Subject: Re: Shotguns and surfboards
>Date: 18 Feb 1997 14:14:14 GMT

>Everyone seems to forget that the amendment reads something like:
>
>"the right to bear arms in a STATE-organized militia"
>
>To me, that means the National Guard (state-run) and doesn't include
>groups like that organized by 'Mark from Michigan' and his ilk.
>Yeah, our government can't be trusted in a lot of ways, but has
>anyone come up with a better one?
>
>The only gun discussion that belongs here would concern guns of the
>9-foot variety.
>
>Peace.

ATTENTION:
here it is, in toto:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,
the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

where does it say state militia?

to you it means national guard, to others, their own militia.
you don't even know what the ammendment says, so now you can refine your
interpretation.

pax surfana.

SurffOhio

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Feb 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/21/97
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>To me, that means the National Guard (state-run) and doesn't include
>groups like that organized by 'Mark from Michigan' and his ilk.
>Yeah, our government can't be trusted in a lot of ways, but has
>anyone come up with a better one?
>
>The only gun discussion that belongs here would concern guns of the
>9-foot variety.

For sure.

>Peace.

>>ATTENTION:
>>here it is, in toto:

>>"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free
state,
>>the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

>>where does it say state militia?

>>to you it means national guard, to others, their own militia.
>>you don't even know what the ammendment says, so now you can refine your

>>interpretation.

>>pax surfana.

Yawn.

This post originally started out as a joke.

It is turning into one of those boring, off topic posts that you find in
other newsgroups, like "alt.we're being invaded" or something.

Surfing is a lot more interesting.

Surff

William Robert Wood

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Feb 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/21/97
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Great article. 

Dano

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Feb 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/22/97
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> >From: Mick Hargreaves <10502...@CompuServe.COM>
Who wants everybody to be nailed to his fallacious interpretation of the
Bill of Rights

> >Everyone seems to forget that the amendment reads something like:

(but not exactly like)


> >"the right to bear arms in a STATE-organized militia"

bzzzt! Sorry! You lose!

> >To me, blah blah blah spewing crap...
Who cares what you think? It's for the Supreme Court to decide and they
may be just a teensy bit smarter than you are but haven't figured it out
in 150 years. Maybe that was by original design so as to flummox
authoritarians like you...

> >The only gun discussion that belongs here would concern guns of the
> >9-foot variety.

You probably have a point here.

> >Peace.
Never, not in the history of human civilization. Unfortunate but true.
Might indicate a hard-wired behavior though....


>In article <C-DOBRI...@bss1.umd.edu>, C-DO...@bss1.umd.edu (ADAM
DOBRIN) >wrote:


> ATTENTION:
> here it is, in toto:

> "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,
> the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Correct! He wins!

> where does it say state militia?

Correct again! IT DOESN'T!!


> pax surfana.
Amen bruddah. Shaka!

Dano

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Rick Ciaccio

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Feb 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/23/97
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Riq de Carvalho <riq...@ppe.newcastle.edu.au> wrote:

>nefc...@aol.com wrote:
>> snipped <
>> "HEY!!! HAAAAYYYY!!! HAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!"
>>
>> This same call is often echoed by the even more rare homo-surfer-kneelus. A quick moving, stunted relation to the surfer-erectus distinguished by its ability to get in and out of spaces much smaller than the surfer-erectus would even attempt.
>>
>The homo-surfer-kneelus once frustrated with the vocal approach reverts
>to more basic actions in it's quest for territory;-) coming from behind
>and below ( naturally ) on the encroaching surfer-erectus, generally off
>a deep bottom turn, the HSK palms off the nose of the intruding stick
>and eases it over the back of the wave. This usually causes the HSE to
>let forth with that other cry..... WWHHAATTT TH' FFFF....

This explains the phenomenon I've noticed of late as once the HSK stakes his
spot in the lineup, the HSE's generally keep their distance, thus do, not
encroach on the charging HSK-- reducing the possibility of the above resulting
act.

The homo-surfer-kneelus seems to be the more aggro and territorial of the
species while the homo-surfer-erectus tends to congregate in packs, relying upon
strength in numbers-- they have also been known to do the Macarena.

Rick Ciaccio
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