Shark story on San Diego news
the Sandman
you think thats insane, listen to this. I used to
live in Oxnard, one day I was surfing a secret spot
in Hueneme and a 20ft great white chomped onto the tail
of my board. Thinking quickly I pulled out my Navy Seal
all-purpose knife and speared his snout to the board. he
promptly propelled me to the Northwest. I beached the
bastard at Yellow Banks, skinned him, donned the sharkskin
and smoked the meat. Lasted me for months. Been here ever since...
http://www.seanet.com/~whammer/
MV24fps wrote:
>
> >"Brackett Omensetter" <brac...@pobox.com>wrote:
>
> >For those of you up on your San Diego geography, the guy claimed to have
> >hooked the shark down near Scripp's Pier, and it towed him all the way to
> >Windansea.
>
> Bracket, that's nothing. Once I was fishing in PV Cove, hooked a shark and it
> towed me all the way to Rincon. It was just in time for a nice west swell so I
> thanked the shark and sent him on his way.
>
Bonzer
Brackett Omensetter wrote in message ...
>Tonight on one of the news stations here in San Diego there was a story
>about some guy who fishes from a surf board and caught a little more than
he
>bargained for today. It was a nine-foot shark, a tiger by the look of it.
>
I have never heard of Tigers inhabiting these waters. In addition, how does
a guy gaff a 9 foot shark on a surfboard? Also sharks will often attack the
source of their grief, and I would imagine this to be especially true of a
tiger, which tend to be very aggressive. A shark that large would take two
guys to haul it in a boat, and then when they got it in, I might be inclined
to jump out. What would a shark that long weigh? 400 - 500lbs or more maybe?
Scripps pier doesn't seem a very likely place to be fishing from a board.
Thought is was pretty much a sand bottom?
I could be wrong, but the whole thing sounds a little fishy to me. Probably
drug a dead bloated 4 ft Mako in and embellished :)
Bonzer
Bonzer
the Sandman wrote in message <35A1AC98...@seanet.com>...
>you think thats insane, listen to this. I used to
>live in Oxnard, one day I was surfing a secret spot
>in Hueneme and a 20ft great white chomped onto the tail
>of my board. Thinking quickly I pulled out my Navy Seal
>all-purpose knife and speared his snout to the board. he
>promptly propelled me to the Northwest. I beached the
>bastard at Yellow Banks, skinned him, donned the sharkskin
>and smoked the meat. Lasted me for months. Been here ever since...
>
. what do you take us for?
Bonzer
Bonzer wrote in message <6nsb4d$rle$1...@hops.adnc.com>...
>I could be wrong, but the whole thing sounds a little fishy to me. Probably
>drug a dead bloated 4 ft Mako in and embellished :)
>
steel leader? And what kind of fish was he fishing for that would have a
hook size sufficient to snag and hold a shark that size? And pulled him all
the way down the coast? Seems a strange pattern for a big shark to run.
Wouldn't he prefer the open ocean and deep water?
Could be I have totally stuck my foot in it here (stranger things have
happened), but it just doesn't add up to me.
Bonzer
Brackett Omensetter
Now that jdtmorris has been vanquished, here I am somewhat embarrasedly
filling in for him.
Tonight on one of the news stations here in San Diego there was a story
about some guy who fishes from a surf board and caught a little more than he
bargained for today. It was a nine-foot shark, a tiger by the look of it.
For those of you up on your San Diego geography, the guy claimed to have
hooked the shark down near Scripp's Pier, and it towed him all the way to
Windansea. "It was towing me so fast I was leaving a wake," he told the
reporter. He finally gaffed the thing and dragged it onshore near the shack.
The closing shots of the piece were somewhat macabre, with the nine-foot
shark strung up in the Windansea shack and tourists taking pictures and
oohing and aahing.
There was one other strange bit. Just as the segment started the guy who
caught the shark was talking to someone else and we only hear a snippet of
the conversation. Anyway, the tail end of the conversation seemed to be that
a shark had attacked a kayak near La Jolla earlier today. Anyone hear tell
of this? I know I haven't, and I was in the water up at Black's almost all
day.
B.
Brackett Omensetter
MV24fps <mv2...@aol.com> wrote in message
>Bracket, that's nothing. Once I was fishing in PV Cove, hooked a shark and
it
>towed me all the way to Rincon. It was just in time for a nice west swell
so I
>thanked the shark and sent him on his way.
Kewl. I'd settle for getting one to tow me from La Jolla Shores up to
Black's or Swami's, depending on the swell and tide. I'm sure we could work
out some sort of squid pro quo . . .
>Scripp's Pier to Windansea? Really? That's pretty insane.
I thought it sounded nutty to the point of completely surreal. I mean,
imagine sitting in the line-up at La Jolla Shores and having some guy go
buzzing by you on a long-board with a fishing line. I think I'd surf
upside-down for a while, just to be sure it wasn't me.
B.
geo...@qualcomm.com
It was a thresher shark caught bt Scott Cherry. Scott fishes from a custom
longboard, designed just for fishing. It towed him around for hours. Someone
gave him a gaff and after gaffing the shark he cut through its spine with his
knife to kill it! A fellow fisherman in a kayak had hooked a thresher
earlier and it attacked his kayak. Tom Tweed can give more details, I
believe Scott is a member of the Wind-N-Sea surf club. Another thresher was
caught about two weeks ago off Sunset Cliffs in San Diego that was about
ten feet long and weighed something like 277 lbs.
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>Brackett Omensetter wrote in message ...
>>Tonight on one of the news stations here in San Diego there was a story
>>about some guy who fishes from a surf board and caught a little more than
>he
>>bargained for today. It was a nine-foot shark, a tiger by the look of it.
>>
>I have never heard of Tigers inhabiting these waters. In addition, how does
>a guy gaff a 9 foot shark on a surfboard? Also sharks will often attack the
>source of their grief, and I would imagine this to be especially true of a
>tiger, which tend to be very aggressive. A shark that large would take two
>guys to haul it in a boat, and then when they got it in, I might be inclined
>to jump out. What would a shark that long weigh? 400 - 500lbs or more maybe?
>
>Scripps pier doesn't seem a very likely place to be fishing from a board.
>Thought is was pretty much a sand bottom?
>
I just saw the report and it was about a 5 1/2' Thresher caught by
Scott Cherry, a well-known local surf-fisherman. The gaff was
borrowed from a nearby boat when he got to Windansea. The north side
of Scripps pier has some rocks nearby. If Cherry was fishing there,
it's probably a good spot. The south side is in the reserve, no
fishing allowed.
5 1/2' is actually a fairly small Thresher. On June 17th, a surfer at
Sunset Cliffs heard people yelling 'shark', got out of the water, ran
home, got his gear, and ran back to the beach. He hooked up, broke
his line, and hooked up again. When he finally got it near shore, two
friends threw a rope around the tail and hauled it in. They threw it
in their pickup truck and took it to H&M landing, where the 12'
Thresher weighed in at 277lbs. The state record is 527 lbs. (The
story and photo are on page D9 of the SD Union 6/18/98.)
Tom Keener
keensurf_at_cts_dot_com
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Will Borgeson
: I just saw the report and it was about a 5 1/2' Thresher caught by
: Scott Cherry, a well-known local surf-fisherman. The gaff was
: borrowed from a nearby boat when he got to Windansea. The north side
: of Scripps pier has some rocks nearby. If Cherry was fishing there,
: it's probably a good spot. The south side is in the reserve, no
: fishing allowed.
It's not at all unusual to find sharks over sandy bottoms.
Thresher sharks eat squid, pelagic crustaceans such as swimming crabs, and
a variety of pelagic schooling fish; these aren't generally found in
shallow rocky areas.
Threshers are really cool-looking sharks, with immense,
scythe-like caudal fins (tails) nearly half the length of the body. To
capture fish, threshers lash the tail around in the school at the surface,
then mack them down whole. Sometimes fishermen catch threshers by the
tail, since they will sometimes lash the tail at a baited hook.
: 5 1/2' is actually a fairly small Thresher.
Right; there are two species of thresher in CA waters - Bigeye (to
12-15') and Common (to 18-20').
Will
Tom Keener
(Tom Keener) wrote:
>>
>I just saw the report and it was about a 5 1/2' Thresher caught by
>borrowed from a nearby boat when he got to Windansea.
Oops. The SD Union has the story & photo on pge D5. It's obviously
longer than 9' & weighed 140lbs. It took 1 1/2 hours using 30lb
line. He was towed 4-5 miles on his 13' board.
Tom Keener
keensurf_at_cts_dot_com
Tweedt
>I have never heard of Tigers inhabiting these waters. In addition, how does a
>guy gaff a 9 foot shark on a surfboard? Also sharks will often attack
>the source of their grief, and I would imagine this to be especially true of
>a tiger, which tend to be very aggressive. A shark that large would take
>two guys to haul it in a boat, and then when they got it in, I might be
>inclined to jump out. What would a shark that long weigh? 400 - 500lbs or
>more maybe?
You're right, Bonzer, it was not a Tiger but rather the more docile Thresher
shark that he caught, as I noted elsewhere in this thread. Threshers are
mostly tail, so that even though it was nine feet long, 4' of it was tail, and
it only weighed about 160 lbs.
>Scripps pier doesn't seem a very likely place to be fishing from
>a board. Thought is was pretty much a sand bottom?
He paddled to Scripps Pier from WindanSea to make bait, then offshore a mile to
troll for yellowtail outside the kelp beds, which is his usual practice this
time of year. The total round trip after getting drug by the fish was probably
8-10 miles or so.
>I could be wrong, but the
>whole thing sounds a little fishy to me. Probably drug a dead bloated 4 ft
>Mako in and embellished :)
Not hardly. It was real, and well documented, but not quite as sensational as
the media made it out (as usual).
...and in another message Bonzer wrote:
>oh yeah . . . and how did he keep it from sawing the line right off without
>steel leader? And what kind of fish was he fishing for that would have a
>hook size sufficient to snag and hold a shark that size? And pulled him all
>the way down the coast? Seems a strange pattern for a big shark to run.
>Wouldn't he prefer the open ocean and deep water?
He caught it on 30 lb. test, fishing for yellowtail. The thresher has a much
smaller, softer mouth and less "toothy" than a Tiger, for sure. It is true
that they prefer deep water and are usually found further offshore, but the
consensus was that there's a lot of food in close now, and they're following
the bait.
>Could be I have totally stuck my foot in it here (stranger things have
>happened), but it just doesn't add up to me.
Well, it added up to everyone who went to the barbeque at Scot's house last
night...
TT
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"Don't let your mouth write no check that your tail can't cash." - Bo Diddley
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Tweedt
>Now that jdtmorris has been vanquished, here I am somewhat
>embarrasedly filling in for him.
Let's pray to god that this thread doesn't bring him back...
>Tonight on one of the news stations here in
>San Diego there was a story
>about some guy who fishes from a surf board and
>caught a little more than he
>bargained for today. It was a nine-foot shark, a
>tiger by the look of it.
The devil is in the details, Brackett. Last time you had a beef with my
corrections to the Terry Rodgers story in the SD Onion on the historical
designation of the Shack, now I'm going to offer some corrections to your
reportage here. Sorry if you once again perceive them to be "petty", but I'm a
fiend for truth and accuracy, I guess....
First off, that wasn't "some guy", it was my friend and fellow WindanSea
clubbie Scot Cherry who caught the shark, and it was a Thresher, not a Tiger.
>For those of you up on your San Diego geography, the guy claimed to have
>hooked the shark down near Scripp's Pier, and it towed him all the way to
>Windansea. "It was towing me so fast I was leaving a
>wake," he told the reporter. He finally gaffed the thing and dragged it
>onshore near the shack. The closing shots of the piece were somewhat macabre,
>with the nine-foot shark strung up in the Windansea shack and tourists taking
>pictures and oohing and aahing.
If you were watching and listening closely to the TV reports, and I have them
on tape (both Channel 8 and 10's coverage) because Scot called me late
yesterday afternoon to ask me to record it for him, he said he was towed
towards Del Mar (north), not towards WindanSea, which was south. After he
landed the thing, which took him almost two hours, he paddled it back to
WindanSea and beached it there, because that's where he started from that
morning.
The wake remark is accurate. The gaff remark is not- he doesn't carry a gaff
on his board- he took his filet knife, after he had played the fish out, and
halfway cut its head off to try to immobilize or kill it, before towing it
home.
>There was one other strange bit. Just as the
>segment started the guy who caught the shark was talking to someone else and
>we only hear a snippet of the conversation. Anyway, the tail end of the
>conversation seemed to be that a shark had attacked a kayak near La Jolla
>earlier today. Anyone hear tell of this? I know I haven't, and I was in the
>water up at Black's almost all day.
The kayaker was Paul Elder, who was out fishing with Scot and witnessed the
whole thing. He said it was the gnarliest piece of offshore fishing he has
ever seen from a surfboard. Apparently the same fish, or perhaps another
thresher, had bumped Paul's kayak earlier, before Scot hooked up. I don't know
if "attack" is the right word to use- perhaps "cruised, bumped and heavily
checked-out" would be better.
Anyway, Scot refused any assistance from Paul or the other boats on the scene
and played the fish from his board by himself and landed it single-handedly.
Anyone who knows Scot has no doubt that he has the skills and cojones to do
this. He is an all-around waterman, diving and fishing almost every day he
doesn't surf. He has won the local board-fishing tournament on several
occasions (which, coincidentally, is this weekend at Simmon's, I believe).
Later,
Bonzer
>On Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:18:27 -0700, "Bonzer" <dwi...@adnc.com> wrote:
>5 1/2' is actually a fairly small Thresher. On June 17th, a surfer at
>Sunset Cliffs heard people yelling 'shark', got out of the water, ran
>
--
Bonzer
-- the best surfer is the one having the most fun --
Bonzer
>night...
>
from mouth :)
Brackett Omensetter
35a1d99e....@nntp.cts.com...
>>
>I just saw the report and it was about a 5 1/2' Thresher caught by
A five-and-a-half foot thresher is a lot different than a nine-foot tiger.
Thanks for the clarification. It was late at night when I saw the report and
I found the whole thing a little bizarre.
B.
Brackett Omensetter
199807072002...@ladder03.news.aol.com...
>First off, that wasn't "some guy", it was my friend and fellow WindanSea
>clubbie Scot Cherry who caught the shark, and it was a Thresher, not a
Tiger.
I stand shamefacedly corrected. And while I probably shouldn't apologize for
not knowing that Scot was well-known local fisherman, I'll at least concede
that I didn't know who he was. Mea culpa.
B.
Brackett Omensetter
199807072002...@ladder03.news.aol.com...
>yesterday afternoon to ask me to record it for him, he said he was towed
>towards Del Mar (north), not towards WindanSea, which was south. After he
I caught that part, but got confused by the towing direction and the landing
direction. I assumed (wrongly it seems) that I misheard the Del Mar bit --
made no sense to me given that he landed it at Windansea. Nevertheless,
makes sense now. Thanks Tom
B.
Sandman
I used Photoshop 3 for that one
there are so many paths in Photoshop
I'm sure I don't use everything.
Inspiration, some artistic ability and
knowledge of the product are what works for me
SurffOhio
Tom Tweed wrote:
>>Well, it added up to everyone who went to the barbeque at Scot's house last
>>night...
Bonzer wrote:
>Yep, saw it on the news this morning. Pretty cool! Still am withdrawing feet
>from mouth :)
Heck Bonzer, don't bother to withdraw the foot, I was with you. It was a story
that was easy to be skeptical of.
What a feat by the Scot guy!
Surff
Lckahuna
with both he and Paul are watermen and good guys to have on your side. They
also teach kids to surf from the homeless shelter so much props to them
LC
Brackett Omensetter
>Scot is also the wind an sea enforcer so he is also a person not to be
messed
>with both he and Paul are watermen and good guys to have on your side. They
What is the "Windansea enforcer"? Sounds ominous . . .
B.
Tweedt
>Re: Shark story on San Diego news
[snipped]
>The wake remark is accurate. The gaff remark is not- he doesn't carry a gaff
on his >board- he took his filet knife, after he had played the fish out, and
halfway cut its >head off to try to immobilize or kill it, before towing it
home.
Since I have professed a desire for accuracy on this story, I must correct
myself. After talking to Scot again last night about his catch, it turns out he
did gaff the fish, with a 6' gaff he was offered by one of the boats watching
the show (he drew a bit of a crowd with the protracted fight). He does carry a
small, hooked stick on his surfboard (essentially a hook lashed to a 2-foot
long piece of broom handle), but nothing to handle a fish this size.
He said he held the rod in one hand and gaffed him with the other, then pulled
the thing up on his board enough to pin him with his forearm, while trying to
sever his spine with his Rapala knife. He got a few abrasions on his arm in
the process, but he said the fish was pretty tired by then. When he originally
told me he didn't accept any assistance, he meant that he didn't get off his
board and onto one of the boats to land the fish, which he was invited to do
during the fight. Apparently, that is what the guy who caught the thresher two
weeks ago from a kayak up north did.
He also told me that Paul Elder had *hooked* the thresher that "attacked" his
kayak earlier, but lost it when the fish turned on his small craft and thrashed
around. So it was not an "unprovoked" action. I didn't understand this
originally. I wonder if it was the same fish that Scot caught later?
Sorry for the misinfo. Apologies to Brackett, who took my somewhat arrogant
and slightly mistaken response to his original posting rather magnanimously, I
must admit.