costochondritis...a pain in the ribs
NZed Surfa
suffered with a pain in the ribs from surfing ?
It felt like I had broken ribs my ribs, but after being thoroughly checked
out at the hospital ...ecg ..no heart problems....and an x-ray ...no broken
bones.
The doctors couldnt tell me what could be causing the problem.
However after doing some research myself ....came accross
this...costochondritis.
Anyone heard of it before and has suffered from it ?
http://www.cfs.inform.dk/Variouspain/costomm.htm#What%20hurts
NZed Surfa
Robert R. Feigel
Yes ... and in one instance it turned to an inflations of the lining
between the ribs and the lungs. Not very nice. I figure it *can*
happen after a strenuous session of paddling - especially if you're
rocking on your ribs or come down on them with any force paddling
through waves. That's my experience anyway. b
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NZed Surfa
"Cheers Robert
The strange thing is that it happened to me about two years ago when I first
got back into surfing again....it went away eventually.
This time its worse.....
And its only on my left side ?...same as before...maybe its a weakness?
NZed Surfa
PS How has the surf been up your way....Gisborne has been getting there fair
share of it. While down here its been fickle !
I had a session on Saturday afternoon as it changed to offshore at Lyall
Bay.
It was approx 2 to 3 feet....after the wind changed offshore it just dropped
!
I had my old 10ft stepped nose Quanne ....and when I got out the water I
couldnt lift the board on to my car...with the pain in my chest !
Robert R. Feigel
<nzed...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>"Cheers Robert
>The strange thing is that it happened to me about two years ago when I first
>got back into surfing again....it went away eventually.
>
>This time its worse.....
>And its only on my left side ?...same as before...maybe its a weakness?
>
>NZed Surfa
>PS How has the surf been up your way....Gisborne has been getting there fair
>share of it. While down here its been fickle !
>I had a session on Saturday afternoon as it changed to offshore at Lyall
>Bay.
>It was approx 2 to 3 feet....after the wind changed offshore it just dropped
>!
>I had my old 10ft stepped nose Quanne ....and when I got out the water I
>couldnt lift the board on to my car...with the pain in my chest !
>
Hummm ... does it hurt when you paddle, or after you've paddled real
hard?
You'd think with all the storm action around up here we'd have had a
swell or two to go along with the gale force winds. But not much wave
action up here at all over the past week or so. Strange ... but have
you noticed that it's starting to warm up a bit (between the cold
snaps)? b
NZed Surfa
day...cold....however this weekend was the exception a northerly.
Not much surf as well...nothing to write home about !
The paddling bit...yes if only paddling hard I feel it.
Mind you as I sit here ...if I breath too deep I feel it too.
NZed Surfa
Sequoia
"NZed Surfa" put forth the following query:
Around mid June, I noticed such a pain in the ribs after two afternoons of surfing windy choppy conditions - 2-3' chop braiding 3-4'
sets. The shifty sections were fun and head high, providing some racy drops with the occasional coverup, besides I was jonesing
bigtime due to work related dry time, so I spent a couple of 3 hour sessions plucking waves amidst the chopfest, many times slamming
my chest on quick paddle outs over the bumpage.
The pain wasn't too bad, but definitely there. Then along came Chublet Douglas. I got in a short sundowner session as the swell just
arrived, only 2-4' but with a little juice to back it up. Noticed a bit more pain in the ribs afterwards.
I missed the rest of the swell due to work (again) in the mornings and blown out afternoons, so I didn't get on it until the
weekend, when the swell had dropped. The rib still hurt somewhat. I spent the morning on the longboard, cruising, generally taking
it easy on the rib, satisfying my 'jones' somewhat, but not quite enough.
Enter Chub Elida. Her swell began arrival in the late afternoon at selected north OC spots, along with some longer period SW swell.
Should be looking real nice in the morning, but I had to get some - now!
This turned out to be one of the best sessions in a long time, as Elida's steep S swell filled in and slightly crossed up with the
building SW - yeah baby! Water temp was a jacuzzi like 70 plus with warm pockets that felt like upper 70's, winds died off to semi
glass conditions, sunset lit up the water surface to a nice reflective orange-pink. Long left outside walls, a fade, then reforming
into fast & furious inside sections. Then looming peaks and a few hollow right wedges. Only about a half dozen of us on it in a mile
long stretch of rapidly building overhead beachbreak. After a half hour of holding position, I gave in to the increasing drift and
long lefts and just plugged in to the flow. As darkness fell, the twilight kept the invitation open for another paddle out and 'just
one more' wave, with the path out illuminated by the intense glow of the reflective, now semi consistent 4' high walls of foam.
The beauty, flow and stoke had me in a state of great buzz and I continued to surf until well after dark, using that extra sense
that kicks in when visuals are denied. A slight illumination from parking lot lights up on the cliffs offered assistance.
I finally grabbed that 'last wave' and connected it all the way thru into the shorebreak. As I stepped onto the sand and grabbed my
board, a very sharp, burning pain in the ribs informed me that this would be my last session for a while. I had finally done it in,
finalizing the slight rib injury that began two weeks ago. As I began my now 1.5 mile trek back to the truck, I couldn't help but
smile, thinking it was all worth it - this session - even though I wouldn't have another one for a time and would miss the next
seven days of Elida's swellage.
Fast forward to: Today.
Hmmmm. Was it really worth it? My last surf was Saturday, July 28, I missed a week from work, couldn't do a friggin' thing except
lay around like a slug. Now I'm at work again, limited duty, and finally getting some hope to surf later in the week or next
weekend. I managed to rip and inflame the connective tissue around my ribs, left side. Hurt like hell to breathe, taking a deep
breath was out of the question. Pulling off a decent cough was a major ordeal. Shite!!!
Was that last session really worth it? I don't know, but replaying it in my mind over and over sure has helped.
My advice: let the damn thing heal before paddling out and be prepared for it to take awhile. I'm in pretty good physical shape, and
am used to taking a thrashing, but a tweaked rib will humble you - big time!
I'm off to go float around in the sea like a sea slug...
Ron
surfen'doc
> >"Cheers Robert
> >The strange thing is that it happened to me about two years ago when I first
> >got back into surfing again....it went away eventually. This time its > worse and its only on my left side ?...same as before...maybe its a weakness?
> >NZed Surfa
> >PS How has the surf been up your way....Gisborne has been getting there fair
> >share of it. While down here its been fickle !
> >> >I would be interested to find out how many fellow surfers out there have
> >> >suffered with a pain in the ribs from surfing ?
> >> >It felt like I had broken ribs my ribs, but after being thoroughly
> checked
> >> >out at the hospital ...ecg ..no heart problems....and an x-ray ...no
> broken
> >> >bones.
> >> >The doctors couldnt tell me what could be causing the problem.
> >> >However after doing some research myself ....came accross
> >> >this...costco...
> >> >Anyone heard of it before and has suffered from it ?
> >> >http://www.cfs.inform.dk/Variouspain/costomm.htm#What%20hurts
> >> >
> >> >NZed Surfa
> >> Yes ... and in one instance it turned to an inflations of the lining
> >> between the ribs and the lungs. Not very nice. I figure it *can*
> >> happen after a strenuous session of paddling - especially if you're
> >> rocking on your ribs or come down on them with any force paddling
> >> through waves. That's my experience anyway. b
NZed Surfa, get the hell out of the water YOU ARE HAVING A SILENT
HEART ATTACK!
The surfer's graveyard is filled with dead heros like you. GET OUT AND
GET TO AN EMERGENCY ROOM BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
dr.myoinfarc
Sam Sager
I'm not a surfer, but I have had the costochondritis thing several times.
Freaked me out big time the first time, pain in the chest, hurt when I
breathed. Got checked out and found out it was an inflammation of the
cartilege at the ends of the rib bones.
Anti-inflammatories help lots, but you do need to let it settle down if you
don't want it to get worse.
My doctor told me it can be brought on my going from extremes of temperature,
which fits in with surfing in BC! Mine was kind of lame, I was going from a
really hot hot tub, to a cold pool over and over an a sunny Okanagan day.
Good luck with avoiding it in the future.
Sam
Ljswahine2
I first thought this thread was going to be about inflammation of temper due to
bad surfboards at Costco.
I don't have this problem but a friend of mine does who is mostly a sponger. It
seems worse or started when she plays golf (have no idea why she would want to,
flat or windy I guess) and surfs around the same time. It seems to come back
every year in the summer.
Aol is acting up again right now and couldn't read the link yet, but everyone's
responses seems about right. Inflammation in tissue around ribs, feels like a
broken rib, but isn't. Also someone said change of temp makes a diff, she is
very succeptable to cold.
ljs
NZed Surfa
The other good news is that two days later ....I am feeling better and
recovering well.
I can at least breath without the pain and I can get out of bed with out
being overwhelmed with pain.
I have used heat packs and a natural health cream containing peppermint and
arnica. It seems to be working.
The only questions now is ...when will I be in good enough health to return
to the water and how can I prevent it from happening again !
I do recall from a conversation with a fellow surfer on Saturday....The
swells were rolling in and we had to work hard to catch them even on the old
10ft longboard. He commented that I put in a lot of effort to catch the
waves. This is what made me think ....maybe I was pushing too hard and thats
what did the damage ?
I also think once you start feeling the pain ...you tend to tense up the
muscles in the chest and not breath as freely....hence making it worse !
For those who have suffered from this before....
What did you do to assist your recovery ?
How long was it before you were recovered ?
What measures did you take to prevent it from re occurring ?...stretching
excercises ?
Did you find out also what was the cause ?.....for me reflecting back it
could of been too much physical exertion.
NZed Surfa
"NZed Surfa" <nzed...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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NZed Surfa
I have had a ecg last time it happened and I was all clear on the heart
front.
The concern was that the doctors didnt know what it was !
Thanks to the internet...a great source of info......and peoples experience
!
NZed Surfa
"surfen'doc" <a_doct...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Sequoia
> Well the good news is I dont have a heart problem.
> The other good news is that two days later ....I am feeling better and
> recovering well.
> I can at least breath without the pain and I can get out of bed with out
> being overwhelmed with pain.
> I have used heat packs and a natural health cream containing peppermint and
> arnica. It seems to be working.
> The only questions now is ...when will I be in good enough health to return
> to the water and how can I prevent it from happening again !
> I do recall from a conversation with a fellow surfer on Saturday....The
> swells were rolling in and we had to work hard to catch them even on the old
> 10ft longboard. He commented that I put in a lot of effort to catch the
> waves. This is what made me think ....maybe I was pushing too hard and thats
> what did the damage ?
> I also think once you start feeling the pain ...you tend to tense up the
> muscles in the chest and not breath as freely....hence making it worse !
>
> For those who have suffered from this before....
> What did you do to assist your recovery ?
> How long was it before you were recovered ?
> What measures did you take to prevent it from re occurring ?...stretching
> excercises ?
> Did you find out also what was the cause ?.....for me reflecting back it
> could of been too much physical exertion.
This is my second go round with this. Last time it appeared after surfing during heavy chop. It was mild. Then I bodysurfed during a
heavy south swell and got pitched off the face of a backwash mutant. Upon landing on the flat - hard - I felt the finishing crunch
in the rib just before a fat lip drove the point home.
3 weeks recovery. My girlfriend at the time performed shiatsu massage on me at the end of the three weeks and I felt something snap,
like a spring. I was surfing again the next day. My back muscles were all knotted up trying to compensate for the rib.
This time, like I mentioned before, it was brought on by bouncing across some heavy chop. That's when I should have stayed out of
the water until it went away. I also had just recently moved some heavy furniture before the occurrence, that may have had something
to do with it.
All I know is I don't want it again - ever.
Seq
NZed Surfa
Three weeks ?
I wonder if I can recover more quickly....mind you...I have been lifting my
almost 2yr daughter around and that doesnt help.....I am sure.
NZed Surfa
"Sequoia" <xlight...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Tim Maddux
> I would be interested to find out how many fellow surfers out there have
> suffered with a pain in the ribs from surfing ?
I have, but the symptoms didn't sound quite the same
as what you posted. It was more of an inflammation
on the bottom line of the ribcage, on both the left
and right, just about where my ribs contact the board.
Down and to either side of the sternum.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=19971004030400.XAA10217%40ladder01.news.aol.com
http://www.surfpulse.com/fitness.shtml#ribs3
--
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.` .`~ and indisputibly on my side for all eternity and then
_.-' '._ some, you know, okay?"
Andy
>
> For those who have suffered from this before....
> What did you do to assist your recovery ?
> How long was it before you were recovered ?
> What measures did you take to prevent it from re occurring ?...stretching
> excercises ?
> Did you find out also what was the cause ?.....for me reflecting back it
> could of been too much physical exertion.
>
> NZed Surfa
My problem isn't at the sternum-rib junction but much like Tim's it's the
bottom edge (Right side) of the rib cage. It only becomes a problem in the
summer when I'm trunking it, then whoo-hoo it can be uncomfortable.
The bump/ pissy rib is present during the winter but I think the 3/2mm
minimizes the rib/board interactions (hey sounds cool huh?) so it's not as
grumpy.
I also notice the difference between the log and my shortboard, I think it
has to do with the glass 4oz -vs- some funky 70's thick ass (volan?) hard as
a rock glass job.
How about slapping a deck pad down on your board?
Andy
rodNDtube
> NZed Surfa <nzed...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:r5B59.849$CD2.1...@news02.tsnz.net...
> >
> > For those who have suffered from this before....
> > What did you do to assist your recovery ?
> > How long was it before you were recovered ?
> > What measures did you take to prevent it from re occurring ?...stretching
> > exercises ?
> > Did you find out also what was the cause ?.....for me reflecting back it
> > could of been too much physical exertion.
> >
> > NZed Surfa
>
> My problem isn't at the sternum-rib junction but much like Tim's it's the
> bottom edge (Right side) of the brain
Yep, so we figured... but your everyday Motrin won't be good for your
condition ;)
> It only becomes a problem in the
> summer when I post to AS
We noticed. Many of us experience the same problems during the summer
months.
> The bump/ pissy rib is present during the winter but I think the 3/2mm
> minimizes the rib/board interactions (hey sounds cool huh?) so it's not as
> grumpy.
>
> Andy
Back on topic: I have experienced a similar condition to costochondritis,
maybe that's what it is called, usually from lack of adequate back
support. Most notoriously from car seats.... I usually pack a towel or
small pillow. WHen the condition does strike I medicate with a muscle
relaxant such as Motrin, watch my seating, apply a hot water pad/bottle
or hot tub/hot bath tub sessions.
Rod Rodgers
eMail: rrod...@bcpl.net
Homepage: http://www.rodNDtube.com/
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mountain man
>
> "Cheers Robert
> The strange thing is that it happened to me about two years ago when I
first
> got back into surfing again....it went away eventually.
>
> This time its worse.....
> And its only on my left side ?...same as before...maybe its a weakness?
Bods are asymmetric and you'll find that you are
either favoring your left rib cage (ie: pushing it
forward more) or it is for some reason a few mm
bigger at the moment.
Controlled breathing to establish some additional
dynamics of the ribs might be a procative means
of overcoming the dominance of rib motion caused
by paddling.
Get well soon, and keep paddling
into them.
Farmer Brown
Falls Creek, OZ
Dan King
news:aj8gf3$9gi$1...@baldur.whoi.edu:
> NZed Surfa wrote:
>> I would be interested to find out how many fellow surfers out
>> there have suffered with a pain in the ribs from surfing ?
>
> I have, but the symptoms didn't sound quite the same
> as what you posted. It was more of an inflammation
> on the bottom line of the ribcage, on both the left
> and right, just about where my ribs contact the board.
> Down and to either side of the sternum.
The end of my sternum is deformed from paddling. There's a ~3/4"
spur growing down and to the right. It creeps my wife out. It
gets sore/tender on my first day back in the water after a couple
of dry weeks, or a week of 2-a-days, or any paddling on a hard
board. It is otherwise not painful.
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=19971004030400.XAA10217%40lad
> der01.news.aol.com
>
> http://www.surfpulse.com/fitness.shtml#ribs3
>
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