2 weeks later and I hate it.
Fletcher
Here are my problems.
I have no sex drive and have always had a strong one.
My orgasms are weak and they have always been strong.
Ejaculations are about 25% smaller but I can live with that.
I have been doing some reading on the net and it seems this type of
condition is rare or no one is speaking up.
I have read some postings here about testosterone studies which don't
really conclude anything.
At this point I plan on having it reversed immediatly unless I find
out these conditions are temporary.
Any help or advise would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,Fletcher
David
> I have no sex drive and have always had a strong one.
> My orgasms are weak and they have always been strong.
> Ejaculations are about 25% smaller but I can live with that.
Firstly, what was your motivation for having a vasectomy, what's your
marital and children status?
Secondly, one fear a lot of men have is that if they do anything untoward
too early after vasectomy, they will damage something, or slow the healing
process. It may be that this is what's holding you back.
> I have been doing some reading on the net and it seems this type of
> condition is rare or no one is speaking up.
The World Health Authority estimates that worldwide 39 million couples have
undergone vasectomy - if this occurs in even 0.01% of cases that represents
a phenomenal number of men not speaking up. Do you have any specific
arfticles you were reading? You can't believe everything you read on the
net! There is a lot of good information out there, but also a lot of duff
nonsense.
http://www.who.int/reproductive-health/publications/FPP_98_19/FPP_94_3/FPP_9
4_3_introduction.en.html
> I have read some postings here about testosterone studies which don't
> really conclude anything.
I think the studies are conclusive, but the discussions here tend to follow
the same pattern until we get bored with repetition. Postings here on
testosterone fall into 2 areas. Firstly, unsubstantiated claims that
vasectomy lowers testosterone, and secondly discussions on testosterone
replacement therapy. As you probably know, in all the male pill hormonal
contraceptive trials, testosterone is one of two main ingredients. The
testosterone you produce yourself is good for you, but TRT reduces your
ability to naturally produce it, acts as a contraceptive and has known
harmfull side effects if taken without due reason. The people that gain are
the pharmaceutical companies pushing the stuff.
> At this point I plan on having it reversed immediatly unless I find
> out these conditions are temporary.
> Any help or advise would be greatly appreciated.
Personally two weeks is too early to tell, and I doubt any doctor would
sanction reversal after two weeks - give it a while and see how things
improve.
David
www.vasectomy-information.com
Fletcher
I have never been married.
I had it done for the simple reason that I don't want an unwanted pregnancy.
Fletcher
"David" <david...@tesco.net> wrote in message news:<%vjza.25$nU...@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net>...
Jason G
Dude, RELAX.
None, I repeat NONE of the things you are experiencing are a big deal or
permanent. Dude, it is only two weeks later. Give it time. You'll be fine.
You aren't even finished _healing_ yet for christsake.
Chill out, you'll be fine. Give it some time, hoss. Take a Valium, drink
some beer. Relax.
--
Jason G
"I walked all around town today and it was fun, but now I am very married."
--Me to front desk clerk in Costa Rica,
confusing two similar Spanish words.
trifold
I really think you need to wait a bit. Sex drive and the feeling at
orgasm are pretty subjective, when you think about it. Can you
truthfully say that before the vas all your orgasms were equally
intense during any 2 week period, and that you never had a dip in your
sex drive? Stress etc. can all affect these things. You are still
healing--and you may be thinking a bit more than usual about how you
are feeling. That's natural after a vas. (And it could affect *what*
you feel.)
As for claims vasectomy lowers testosterone, the medical evidence does
not support these claims. Also, even those who have claimed here that
vasectomy lowers testosterone have never said this happens as soon as
2 weeks after.
Take it easy. Once you get back into the "swing," I bet you'll find
things are back to normal.
David
"Fletcher" <fletche...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9b6cb964.03052...@posting.google.com...
> I have no kids and never wanted any.I am 41 and have a regular girlfriend
who is 20.
> I have never been married.
> I had it done for the simple reason that I don't want an unwanted
pregnancy.
This sounds good to me - you did it for you. Clearly you don't want
children, and don't want a relationship where they *might* be an issue, and
have taken a responsible decision to do what's right ror you.
It can sometimes take a while to come to terms with the idea of being
sterile, even when it's your choice. The reaction some men have after
vasectomy can be different to what you would assume. In some, despite all
the research and soul searching before going ahead, the news that they are
sterile can come as a blow. However, a short while (and lots of unprotected
sex) later the opinion tends to have changed somewhat!
I'd give it time, as the others have said you will probably find in a short
while that things are back to normal.
Please keep us posted on how things go.
Giraud
> I have no kids and never wanted any.I am 41 and have a regular girlfriend
> who is 20. I have never been married.
> I had it done for the simple reason that I don't want an unwanted
> pregnancy.
Several of us are CF as well. I recommend reading some of my old post and
also reading my story on David's site.
I address some things that might hit home with you. I think this is rather
complex, and a can of worms that you never expected can be opened
psychologically. Maybe reading what I wrote will help you bring this to
the surface and understand it. (Or maybe it will bore you to tears - who
knows!).
Also, yes, *relax*. You indeed are not healed yet, so no physical
judgement should be made this early. Even if the effects you feel are
physical, you've just disrupted a sensative area, and it is way too early
to declare this permanent.
It will take several more weeks before you feel "normal." And it may take
months to sort out the goblins you may have stirred up. Evolution may be
tugging at you beneath the surface (it doesn't matter if you want kids or
not), but if this is it, you will probably get hip to the new you after a
while and you most likely will turn euphoric about it finally!
Giraud
ROB
Give it some time, you are a long way from being healed!! It took me
about a month before I really got back into the swing of things. I
think it is partly the fact that I was afraid to do something to set
me back. The thoughts of a second expedition into scrotumland just
doesn't appeal to me one little bit !
All good medicine,
GREENFEATHER
Fletcher
Thanks for all your input on this matter and I guess I need to wait
for a while to see how things go.
Can you guys give me any idea as to how long it will take to get back
to normal?
3 months,6 months, a year?
No changes yet, 3 weeks later.
Thanks,Fletcher
trifold
Hey Fletcher, Mileage varies, I guess. But most men are back to
normal--in terms of sex drive, orgasm intensity, ejac. volume pretty
quickly, certainly before 3 months (unless, of course, there are
unusual circumstances, that is, infection, pain, persistent swelling
related to hematoma, etc.). But as I said already, sex drive and
orgasm intensity are very subjective things. Getting used to fucking
while sterile is the hurdle on that score, and that just takes
practice, practice, practice. As for ejac. volume: again, if you are
seeing a 25% reduction in *every* ejac (instead of just the occasional
one), that means you are *very* unusual in terms of how much of your
ejac. came from your balls. (Also, unusual maybe in how carefully you
measure these things!)
Keep us posted, but my bet is you will be back to your usual well
before 3 months.
Jason G
>Thanks for all your input on this matter and I guess I need to wait
>for a while to see how things go.
>Can you guys give me any idea as to how long it will take to get back
>to normal?
>3 months,6 months, a year?
>No changes yet, 3 weeks later.
Normal, as in 100%? It took me about 3 months.
pablo
> to normal?
Check my story on the site - basically, I was OK after two weeks or so, just
as good as before. After a while, the psychological benefits kicked in, and
I am actually doing better in every respect than I had in several years. Not
that I ever had problems, but these days I am truly set free, Spirit of the
Stallion stuff... :-)
I guess the answer is that it changes on a person to person basis.
...pablo
Fletcher
after my vas.
He said due to nerve endings and other factors it may take 3 months or
more for my orgasms and labido to return to normal.
If it doesn't change I will go back to discuss reversal.
Fletcher
"pablo" <pablo...@ATsimplyhombre.net> wrote in message news:<vd7qcua...@news.supernews.com>...
Steve Law
Good luck on the healing. I posted more in the past, but now spend
less time in this ng. Keep using the ice on ice off ice on cycle.
There is internal damage due to the vasectomy.
Men often don't realize that this is a traumatic surgery to this part
of the body. The medical establishment does a poor job of informing
men of the risks to their sexual health, both short and long term.
Don't let folks say its in your head and will go away eventually.
These are ridiculous statements. Something is wring now, and if the
doctor cannot tell you what and why then time to look for another
doctor. (Would you accept this explanation for anything else in your
health - even a sprained ankle the damage is explainable and
demonstratable.) Did the doctor tell you that it could be up to a 3mo
recovery. Some men never recover. Getting accurate information from
the pro-vasectomy posters here and pro-vasectomy medical establishment
is difficult.
God's Speed,
Steve L
Been There, Done That, Still Paying The Price
ROB
It took me about a month to get back to normal. Up until about the 2
month mark if I overdid things I got a little sore. I made my first
jump (skydiving) yesterday and had no problems with the landing, at
the 2 month mark I'd have collapsed into a pile on the ground !! I'm
at the 5 month mark and doing just fine.
Everyone heals at different rates and you might just be a slow
healer too. Keep and eye out for redness, soreness and unusually
lumps, all signs of something gone awry.
All good medicine,
GREENFEATHER
Giraud
> It took me about a month to get back to normal. Up until about the 2
> month mark if I overdid things I got a little sore. I made my first
> jump (skydiving) yesterday and had no problems with the landing, at
> the 2 month mark I'd have collapsed into a pile on the ground !! I'm
> at the 5 month mark and doing just fine.
Where did you make your skydive? Was it static line, AFF, or tandem? I've
been skydiving for about 14 years! I made a jump a few weeks after the
vas, and it was fine (perhaps a little sore from the pressure of the leg
straps, but I kept adjusting them so they did not squeeze anything directly
- believe me, I was conscious of it!).
Do you plan to make more jumps? I made about 200 jumps a year for the first
few years, and I've tapered off, mostly due to the fact that the scene in
Colorado is not as lively as back east, where I learned. Also, there are
other challenges I am persuing (flying being a big one now).
Giraud
Fletcher
specializes in reversal and sexual disfunction.
He said give it 2 more months from now them come back if it isn't
better.
I'm starting to wonder if a reversal will bring me back the way I was
before.
I'm scared and worried at this point.
Flether
stev...@my-deja.com (Steve Law) wrote in message news:<47cbbd02.03060...@posting.google.com>...
Giraud
> The Dr. I saw was not the same Dr. that did the vas.This one
> specializes in reversal and sexual disfunction.
> He said give it 2 more months from now them come back if it isn't
> better.
> I'm starting to wonder if a reversal will bring me back the way I was
> before.
> I'm scared and worried at this point.
Hey, my advice is to take it one day at a time. It hasn't been long since
your vas, so see how it goes for a while. I understand your fear and
worry. Our sexuality is kind of the core of our being. No one wants
things to change (at least not for the worst). I am not convinced you will
not recover with time. I think relaxing is important. This is not all in
your head or all not in your head. The body and mind are connected
intimately. It's important to come to terms with yourself, both physical
and spiritual.
Steve tends to be pretty polar on the subject. I think a balanced view is
important, and even though Steve believes lots of those here are
pro-vasectomy, it is more of a balance I think. Many of us are obviously
thrilled with this change of our physical nature, but it is a change, and
this takes adjustment, more in some than others. This group is for the
support of men who are looking into vasectomy and those who have gone
through it, and we are here for you.
How have things changed since your first post? Is it the same, or have
things gotten better/worse? Or is it simply changing? If so, go with it
and see where it leads. I feel different for sure now after vasectomy.
But it is not in a bad/good way. Sex is sex now. A lot of the feelings I
had pre-vas are gone or different now. My wife and I can just go with the
sexual urge now, whereas before it required more thought/planning. It's an
adjustment in any case. Just some things to think about...
Giraud
Fletcher
The other two problems (no sex drive and weak loss of sensation orgasms)
have not changed but they have not gotten worse.
Fletcher
Giraud <gir...@spamsucks.com> wrote in message news:<YiSEa.97$Tl4....@news.uswest.net>...
trifold
> I had more problems with erections at first but that seems to be ok now.
> The other two problems (no sex drive and weak loss of sensation orgasms)
> have not changed but they have not gotten worse.
>
> Fletcher
The fact your erections got better makes me think the rest will, too.
I think your doctor is giving you good advice.
trifold
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