complications part 2
Luan
through many changes physically and mentally. The pain that caused me to
work many short days quit on Nov. 9, 04 at 2 PM rather abruptly and this
gave me great hope that all would resolve in time. However, I have not
been without the dull ache and it gets better and worse in cycles. My
orgasms are sometimes with only slight discomfort and range from severe
pain to nothing. My desire for sex is affected by the past pains I
remember. I am pleased my memory for pain is short so there is not too
big a gap in sexual activity even if the last experience was painfull.
Two days ago I visited a doctor who works at the clinic where I had this
vasectomy to learn what type of proceedure exactly they did on me. First
thing he said was that my pains are not related to the vasectomy. Well I
did not go there to educate him and I fear that is impossible anyway but I
did learn they use "cotton" to tie off the vas tubes. So now what to do, I
want to find a doctor who will listen to me... and not say stupid things
like after 47 years of rather active sex life (I am 58) that my 5 months
of constant pains and discomeort cannot be related to the event that
occured on the day that active and very pleasurable sex life changed to a
nightmare. What can I say to someone that stupid? In the past 2 weeks I
am noticing a big loss in libido. Masterbation which I've always done
regularly these 47 years has almost stopped and is very difficult. I am
not able to have my semen tested at that clinic because they expect me to
masterbate there for the fresh sample. I asked if they would stay open
till midnight while I tried. I always had 4 or 5 orgasms a week and
sometimes 3 or 4 a day by masterbating. 4 days ago and yesterday I was
with my present girlfriend (very cute and sexy little Thai lady, 4' 8" 100
pounds and 42 years old) and I am noticing a distinct loss of interest in
sex even though I managed to have sex 2 times in 2 hours yesterday. My
erections are not completely hard. I think I need to convert this
vasectomy to "open end" or something soon... I feel the pressure, that is
the discomfort part and it is more noticable on the right side. One thing
the doctor told my thai lady friend (after he told me the stupid stuff
about the problems not being related to the operation) was that in his
opinion I was too old to have a vasectomy. He said men over 45 are a poor
risk and over 50 he would not do it because of poor outcome. I have some
personal theories concerning all this age thing but this is not a good
place to expound on that. What I want to know from anyone out in this big
world is what is a good possible action for me to take next. I will search
for a good doctor but I need to tell him/her as much as I can learn because
I think most doctors will be pretty ignorant of my exact condition. I am
living in Bangkok, Thailand for the next 3 months, then back to Wisconsin,
USA I do not wish to visit any doctors in USA for reasons of terrible high
cost. Here there are good doctors in the private hospitals and I can get
some recomendations if I try. Sincerely, Luan
trif...@netscape.net
> It is now 5 months since I had a NSV vasectomy. (sept. 6) I have gone
> through many changes physically and mentally. The pain that caused
me to
> work many short days quit on Nov. 9, 04 at 2 PM rather abruptly and
this
> gave me great hope that all would resolve in time. However, I have
not
> been without the dull ache and it gets better and worse in cycles.
My
> orgasms are sometimes with only slight discomfort and range from
severe
> pain to nothing. My desire for sex is affected by the past pains I
> remember. I am pleased my memory for pain is short so there is not
too
> big a gap in sexual activity even if the last experience was
painfull.
So then your desire is not affected by your memory of past pain?
> Two days ago I visited a doctor who works at the clinic where I had
this
> vasectomy to learn what type of proceedure exactly they did on me.
First
> thing he said was that my pains are not related to the vasectomy.
Well I
> did not go there to educate him and I fear that is impossible anyway
but I
> did learn they use "cotton" to tie off the vas tubes.
Cotton? I wouldn't think cotton lasts.
>So now what to do, I
> want to find a doctor who will listen to me... and not say stupid
things
> like after 47 years of rather active sex life (I am 58) that my 5
months
> of constant pains and discomeort cannot be related to the event that
> occured on the day that active and very pleasurable sex life changed
to a
> nightmare. What can I say to someone that stupid? In the past 2
weeks I
> am noticing a big loss in libido. Masterbation which I've always
done
> regularly these 47 years has almost stopped and is very difficult. I
am
> not able to have my semen tested at that clinic because they expect
me to
> masterbate there for the fresh sample.
Is this to determine whether you are sterile? Or are they looking for
some sign of infection? Either way, I think you should give them what
they want. Just bring a magazine.
> I always had 4 or 5 orgasms a week and
> sometimes 3 or 4 a day by masterbating. 4 days ago and yesterday I
was
> with my present girlfriend (very cute and sexy little Thai lady, 4'
8" 100
> pounds and 42 years old) and I am noticing a distinct loss of
interest in
> sex even though I managed to have sex 2 times in 2 hours yesterday.
Not many men would be as eager to go the day after cumming twice in 2
hours. If the two ejacs. were from masturbation, maybe your problem is
with the girlfriend. Is it possible the vasectomy was her idea?
>My
> erections are not completely hard. I think I need to convert this
> vasectomy to "open end" or something soon... I feel the pressure,
that is
> the discomfort part and it is more noticable on the right side.
5 months is too early to convert ot open ended, I think.
>One thing
> the doctor told my thai lady friend (after he told me the stupid
stuff
> about the problems not being related to the operation) was that in
his
> opinion I was too old to have a vasectomy. He said men over 45 are a
poor
> risk and over 50 he would not do it because of poor outcome.
Hmmm...I got mine at 46. No problems.
> personal theories concerning all this age thing but this is not a
good
> place to expound on that.
What place is better? What are your theories?
>What I want to know from anyone out in this big
> world is what is a good possible action for me to take next. I will
search
> for a good doctor but I need to tell him/her as much as I can learn
because
> I think most doctors will be pretty ignorant of my exact condition.
I don't know about that. I bet there is alot of vasectomy in Thailand.
(Isn't the King there a big fan?) Maybe for this reason, it might be
best not to go in with your own ready madediagnosis. See what happens
when you just complain of symptoms. They may order some tests that
could point to a solution. If you start by insisting the vasectomy is
to blame, they may think you are unhappy with the procedure for other
reasons.
I'm not sure from what you've written whether you have asked about
reopening the vas tubes. Is this done there, I wonder. (I suspect it
is unlikely your present problems could be caused by sperm
backpressure, which reopening the tubes might improve: It seems too
early for that.)
The other advice I have is that you thoroughly look through the
materials at the website (www.vasectomy-information.com), including the
medical journals section.
>I am
> living in Bangkok, Thailand for the next 3 months, then back to
Wisconsin,
> USA I do not wish to visit any doctors in USA for reasons of
terrible high
> cost. Here there are good doctors in the private hospitals and I can
get
> some recomendations if I try.
Good luck. Let us know what happens.
trifold
www.vasectomy-information.com
oldsport
routinely performed, however explaining something intricate like
wanting an open ended conversion to a primarily Thai speaking doctor
may be very difficult, if not futile. The first thing you need to do is
find a doctor you can get along with, and who will give you a valid
second opinion. If you are in pain something is wrong and needs to be
done, open ended conversion is one option. But maybe all you need is
anti inflammatory medicine. Only a doctor can answer.
I personally opted for an open ended NSV vas to avoid the problems you
are describing, so far so good.