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Doug Wilson

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Jul 20, 2003, 2:32:02 PM7/20/03
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Hi,

Please can anybody provide me with some vasectomy advice?
I am contemplating a vasectomy and would like to know what the impact is
afterwards on the orgasm sensation.
To me (and I dont think this is unusual) the sensation of orgasm is derived
from two things..1. An europhic sensation which appears to be psychological
/ chemical which I guess has something to do with testostirone and 2. A
physical fealing as the ejaculate is 'pumped' around the groin and penis
during ejaculation. This also accounts for why the sensation is enhanced
after a long period of (sperm?) build-up.

My concern is that the sensation caused by the second of these points is
reduced as there is no longer any sperm passing with the ejaculation, only
semen.

Please forgive my naivity in this matter, but I am not a medical man as you
have probably already guessed.

Many thanks in advance for any advice you can give.

Doug.


Paul E Garcia

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Jul 20, 2003, 2:53:12 PM7/20/03
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Mine feel exactly the same from a purely physiological perspective. And, I
feel better about engaging in sexual activity knowing no unwanted children are
coming along.

ROB

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Jul 20, 2003, 8:44:38 PM7/20/03
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paule...@cs.com (Paul E Garcia) wrote in message news:<20030720145312...@mb-m29.news.cs.com>...

> Mine feel exactly the same from a purely physiological perspective. And, I
> feel better about engaging in sexual activity knowing no unwanted children are
> coming along.

Mine feel exactly the same as well. Sperm only comprise 3-5% of the
ejaculate so the reduction isn't noticable.
All good medicine,
GREENFEATHER

Fletcher

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Jul 20, 2003, 10:08:14 PM7/20/03
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I had my vas about 10 weeks ago.
Before I had it done I researched this and also asked 2 friends who
had had it done.
All the info I got said it was safe and I would not notice and changes
other than a lower volume of ejaculate.
Today I have no ( 0 that is ) sex drive/labedo and little or no
sensation during orgasm.
The doctors and anyone else I have asked about this have no answers
for me as to what is wrong.
My sex life is ruined and I don't even care to bother with it anymore
the way I feel now.
Although my case must be exstremely rare I would say think twice about
it because I would do almost anything to get myself back the way I was
before the vas.
My only hope at this point is that a reversal will bring me back in
time.

Fletcher


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trifold

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Jul 21, 2003, 10:13:33 AM7/21/03
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"Doug Wilson" <seethe...@luciddreams.com> wrote in message news:<3f1ae06a$0$11383$cc9e...@news.dial.pipex.com>...
> Hi,
>
> Please can anybody provide me with some vasectomy advice?
> I am contemplating a vasectomy and would like to know what the impact is
> afterwards on the orgasm sensation.

The way I feel orgasm hasn't changed since my vasectomy--and it has
been almost 5 years now. I know what you mean about the "whole body"
effect combining with something more local and "hydraulic" as the
semen is pumped out during ejaculation. I still get both these kinds
of feelings. I think that's because the ejac. feeling comes from the
prostate and various "smooth muscles" that contract and force semen up
through the penis and out. After vasectomy this still happens, it's
just that the ejaculate contains no sperm. During ejaculation there
are also contractions in the vas deferens that pre-vas. would help
move sperm up the pipeline (although not the very same sperm you would
actually ejac. That sperm would have started its journey from
testicles almost 70 days earlier!). Apparently these contractions of
the vas deferens tubles also continue after vasectomy (which may be
one reason doctors recommend not ejaculating for awhile after the
snip--also why some recommend lots of ejac. in cases of epidydimal
infection post vasectomy, as the contractions can move stuff out
through tiny fissures in the vas seal or through small ruptures).
(Frankly, I suspect these contractions of the vas deferens don't add
much to the feeling of ejaculation, since they are overwhelmed by the
much bigger stuff that goes on in the prostate, which does all the
really "heavy lifting.")

By the way, the "whole body" effect at orgasm apparently is separaable
from the feeling of ejaculation--men who ejaculate dry after removal
of their prostates and seminal vescicles (one way of treating prostate
cancer) apparently still get it, although they don't have any goo to
shoot.

Orgasm is a lot more subjective than people realize--just think about
how your orgasms differ from one another now, depending on a range of
factors. So I could see how some people might experience orgasm
differently after vasectomy, at least for awhile. In fact, many men
say their orgasms improve, prob. because they worry about pregnancy
less.

(BTW, for me doing it doggie style has always made the physical
sensation of pumping out the ejac. more intense--the sensation of the
stuff moving up the pipeline and out seems to last longer when I do it
that way.)

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David Henderson

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Jul 21, 2003, 10:01:19 PM7/21/03
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Before I had mine done (about 4 months ago), I talked to some friends who had
been snipped. All reported that all was fine on the southern front. As for
me, I can tell you that mine are different, too -- BETTER! It's probably
psychological but, hell, who cares when your whole lower body is exploding! I
have noticed that the ejaculate volume is a little lower but, so what? I don't
normally see it anyway. Besides, my whole lower body is exploding and I'm a
blithering idiot until I can catch my breath (one of the down sides of being on
the wrong side of 40).

There may be some men who have negative experiences but, from what I've seen
posted here during the last 6-8 months, the negatives are the extreme
minority. Also, thus saith my uro -- its rare to have any negative changes to
orgasm post-V and, when it occurs, the cause is usually not physiological.
Since you are considering joining the ranks of sperm-free men, find a uro (get
a referral from your doc if needed) and talk to him -- there's no commitment to
follow through with it. Write your questions down before you see him so you
remember what to ask him. Be sure to ask him what has been his experience with
men who reported diminished orgasms post-V. If he won't answer all your
questions to your satisfaction, run, don't walk, and find another. If you
decide to take the plunge, make sure you're comfortable with him and trust him
(or find another uro you like who has done more than a couple of V's). After
all, your balls will be in his hands (literally and figuratively).

Happily snipped,
David

Ugly

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Jul 30, 2003, 5:48:30 PM7/30/03
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:32:02 +0100, Doug Wilson babbled on about Does Vasectomy affect
orgasm sensation? proclaiming:

>Hi,
>
>Please can anybody provide me with some vasectomy advice?
>I am contemplating a vasectomy and would like to know what the impact is
>afterwards on the orgasm sensation.
>

>My concern is that the sensation caused by the second of these points is
>reduced as there is no longer any sperm passing with the ejaculation, only
>semen.

For me it's heightened dramatically. NO MORE CONDOMS!!!!!
And for me that was a reason for increased excitement. No matter what you've been told
before - it just isn't the same if you use a condom. Even my wife admits this now.

Dr Kittel

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Aug 3, 2003, 6:49:12 PM8/3/03
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Most men just feel a lot happier and therefore feel they have better
orgasms. Make sure you have a No-Scalpel Vasectomy, though.

Best wishes

Dr Martin Kittel

www.vasectomy.me.uk

Ugly

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Aug 3, 2003, 9:10:35 PM8/3/03
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On 3 Aug 2003 15:49:12 -0700, Dr Kittel babbled on about Re: Does Vasectomy affect orgasm
sensation? proclaiming:

>Most men just feel a lot happier and therefore feel they have better


>orgasms. Make sure you have a No-Scalpel Vasectomy, though.

Even if you don't, keep in mind that real scalpels don't go "snip!"

trifold

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Aug 4, 2003, 10:32:03 AM8/4/03
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DrMarti...@vasectomy.me.uk (Dr Kittel) wrote in message news:<b2ab2519.03080...@posting.google.com>...

Thank you for dropping in. We hope you continue.

Could you explain why you think the no scalpel version is so much
better? I understand that it may speed recovery by a few days and
somewhat reduce the risk of infection. But are there any longterm
advantages? And is it possible in some cases working through a tiny
hole to locate, sever and seal both vas deferens tubes could create
special difficulties not warranted by the advantages (esp. in the case
of a less experienced practitioner)?

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trifold

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Aug 4, 2003, 10:36:01 AM8/4/03
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I presume you do not mean to suggest that other forms of vasectomy are
more likely to result in worse orgasms.

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Neil Hobson

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Aug 4, 2003, 11:49:59 AM8/4/03
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I think the key is as you said below, i.e. it's all down to how skilled the
practitioner is.

I had a closed-ended NSV, and had about a half-hour of a minor ache about
1-2 hours after the op. That was it for about 4-5 days, as then I felt like
very minor (and I mean minor) muscle-pulling sensation around my belt area
for around a day or two. I didn't get any swelling or bruising (at least,
nothing that I noticed!), which is a shame since I wanted some *real*
sympathy from the wife! :-)

My doc said he had absolutely no problems finding anything, and I can only
assume that this was the major factor in my speedy recovery. He did put a
kind of hot water bottle over the area before operating, which I guess made
sure things didn't shrivel up. :-)

Obviously I've never experienced anything other than the NSV, but I find it
hard to imagine anything better or less intrusive.

Neil


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Dr Kittel

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Aug 4, 2003, 4:53:35 PM8/4/03
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There are no significant long term advantages above a conventional
vasectomy. However, there are very significant short term advantages,
mainly because of reduced pain & bruising (shown in a large (1400+
patients) trial in 1999).

New guidelines by the RCOG (Royal College of Obstetrics and
Gynaecology) on male sterilisation are out later this year. The draft
version does recommend the No-Scalpel approach should be used as the
only approach in the future.

Your comment about the operaters experience is quite important. Above
new guidelines recommend a practicioner to have performed at least 40
supervised procedures before doing them on his own.

Hope this answers your questions.

David

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Aug 5, 2003, 2:42:01 AM8/5/03
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> New guidelines by the RCOG (Royal College of Obstetrics and
> Gynaecology) on male sterilisation are out later this year. The draft
> version does recommend the No-Scalpel approach should be used as the
> only approach in the future.

The RCOG is the Royal College of Ob/Gyn, and the guidelines apply to
the UK. However, it's clear from the text that the RCOG are aware it's
a unique set of guidelines and are more than willing for other
countries to follow suit on introducing something along the same
guidelines.

The draft is no longer on the rcog website as the discussion period
has closed, but I did put it on the website at
http://www.vasectomy-information.com/pages/rcogdraft.pdf It's nearly
2Mb so can take a while to download.

David
www.vasectomy-information.com

trifold

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Aug 5, 2003, 9:13:03 AM8/5/03
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"Neil Hobson" <neilh...@NOSPAM.supanet.com> wrote in message news:<vit0589...@corp.supernews.com>...

> I think the key is as you said below, i.e. it's all down to how skilled the
> practitioner is.
>
> I had a closed-ended NSV, and had about a half-hour of a minor ache about
> 1-2 hours after the op. That was it for about 4-5 days, as then I felt like
> very minor (and I mean minor) muscle-pulling sensation around my belt area
> for around a day or two. I didn't get any swelling or bruising (at least,
> nothing that I noticed!), which is a shame since I wanted some *real*
> sympathy from the wife! :-)

LOL. I did get some swelling; and some spectacular bruising, which
was cool, 'cause while not hurting, it gave the impression of major
trauma, producing the hoped for sympathy. Sorry you missed out on
that! Still, maybe the very quick recovery was worth it in your case.
I had the traditional, two cuts, all ends sealed version and was back
in action pretty fast: ejac. that night, up and about the next day
(even though I did wear a jockstrap for about 2 weeks just for
security). It's just we have heard of guys who go the nsv route who
have had similar recoveries to mine (or worse). Glad yours turned out
great, though.



> My doc said he had absolutely no problems finding anything, and I can only
> assume that this was the major factor in my speedy recovery. He did put a
> kind of hot water bottle over the area before operating, which I guess made
> sure things didn't shrivel up. :-)

That's interesting. I've only heard of one other doctor who does this
routinely. It makes a lot of sense. Mine gave me a relaxant to take
about an hour before, and I think it had the same effect. (Otherwise,
he would have had to go elbows deep to find those cords!)

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trifold

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Aug 5, 2003, 9:14:13 AM8/5/03
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Thanks very much, Dr. Kittel.

trifold
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