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Re: Can anyone advise on pain? Should I be concerned?

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Luqman Skye

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Dec 4, 2006, 11:16:45 PM12/4/06
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It may or may not resolve on its own. Two months in pain is already
getting to be a long time, although some men have reported pain for
several months that eventually goes away. Somewhere, as a resource to
the community, I think we should start a list of the doctors who leave
men in chronic pain. I've heard that sometimes men search the Internet
before a vasectomy looking for information on their doctors and this
list could protect men from unqualified doctors. The doctor who
performed a painful vasectomy, painful even through the anesthetic,
that left me in severe pain every minute since the anesthetic wore off
on February 16th, was David M. Kaufman in New York. Then Marc Goldstein
in New York, another quack (I was fooled by his self-aggrandizement on
his webpage and in person), performed a failed vasovasostomy both in
terms of pain and sperm analysis. There must be some good doctors out
there! A start to finding them is probably to rule out the bad doctors
(especially to rule out the criminal doctors!).


grnmt...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My husband had a closed ended NS vasectomy about 7 weeks ago. He
> healed fine, it hurt a bit more than he expected, but I think that was
> mostly due to his stitch pinching his skin.
>
> Anyway, once we resumed intimacy (about a week later?) he has said
> during climax/ejaculation it has not felt the same. He said it wasn't
> painful, just different at first. Then, at about 3 weeks post
> vasectomy, he began feeling some abdominal discomfort on the right side
> when he began to climax. He said it happened a couple of times, then
> it seemed to get better, only "uncomfortable" but not painful, but
> definitely different than the norm before the procedure. Now, he says
> he feels the main more in his testicle (right), no longer his abdomin.
> He also said at times it feels different as soon as we begin anything,
> like a pulling or something. He feels completely normal when doing his
> daily life, including lifting weights, no pain, nothing different at
> all. I am of course concerned, especially after reading all the scary
> stuff about PVPS. He seems to think it is not such a big deal and will
> resolve itself, but I am a bit of a worrier and think that he is just
> trying to make me feel better. He did say he is anxious to get back to
> normal, and I am concerned that he never will. I made an appt with the
> urologist for a follow up next week to see what he says.
>
> I have read on this site that some men experience this for a little
> while, but for many it seems to have resolved by 4 weeks or so. He was
> stubborn and went to work the next day, and the day after that too,
> walking around his office everywhere, definitely not relaxing. I am
> wondering if this could have effected his healing? Can this be normal
> for some men and resolve? At what point should I begin to really be
> concerned? I would hate to think that we made this decision and it
> will permanently effect the quality of his life, at least in one
> regard. I am concerned that I cannot find any information about this
> really, everything refers to chronic pain or no pain at all.
>
> Any help is appreciated.

Mook

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Dec 9, 2006, 3:18:14 AM12/9/06
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Luqman Skye wrote:
> It may or may not resolve on its own. Two months in pain is already
> getting to be a long time, although some men have reported pain for
> several months that eventually goes away. Somewhere, as a resource to
> the community, I think we should start a list of the doctors who leave
> men in chronic pain.

As a on-again/off-again sufferer, I have to take David's side on this
issue. While your intentions may be noble, the delivery is wrong.
Yes, there are days when I question WHY I had this procedure...but I
blame myself for this; I put more research into buying a motorcycle
than I did preparing for this. I took everyone else's word that it was
a simple, pain-free alternative to filling my wife daily with drugs and
chemicals...or subjecting her to dangerous and invasive surgery that
isn't 100% effective!
I should have put more thought and study into this, but I didn't and
now I live with sporadic bouts of pain and testicular congestion but I
(try to) remain optimistic that eventually it will STOP hurting one
day. Three of my co-workers had the same procedure and are
pain-free...why should I be any different?

So, while I applaud your candor and can empathize with your condition
(even if mine isn't anywhere near as intense)...I don't see the point
of creating one thread after another to emphasize a point that was
already delivered. This isn't "my" forum, so I have no say in who or
what gets posted...but you've made your point and I appreciate it.
Posting a list of Doctors is an invitation for a lawsuit and/or getting
this forum shut down!

Luqman Skye

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Dec 9, 2006, 3:42:25 AM12/9/06
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Thank you, Mook, for your reply. You may blame yourself for the pain
because of a lack of research (though I don't think you should), but,
in my case, I DID the research, and, because the doctors minimized PVP
and blamed much of it on psychological problems, I thought that PVP
could be explained by people who were just "unhappy" with the
"procedure." Doing research will not help healthy men until there is a
source of accurate information for them to research. It's important to
get out the message that the ONLY people with first-hand information
about PVP are the sufferers themselves. Doctors who have not themselves
had vasectomies are likely to be less reliable sources of information.
Even if you hadn't done so much research, your doctor should have told
you that a vasectomy is a huge risk. I agree with you that posting a
list of doctors would be risky, but it could save some lives. I wish
someone would have warned me about the doctor who did this to me. I
Googled his name before I went to him, and, if someone had taken the
risk to warn me about him, I may have been living a happy life with
hope for the future.

Mook

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Dec 23, 2006, 4:09:49 AM12/23/06
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Well, as a sufferer I sure can sympathize AND empathize with your
situation, and I hope that there will come a day (soon) where BOTH of
us will be pain free!
Yes, there are days when I regret having it done, but there are just as
many days where I am GLAD I went through this...for the sake of my
wife's biology. Maybe my biggest problem is that I waited too long to
get it done...I was well-into my 40's before going under-the-knife, and
there's a whole lot of research that shows guys my age don't heal as
well or as quickly as a 20 year old!

Good luck to you.

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