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Anonymous lo14

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Sep 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/14/98
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New technical term to be introduced: "TS Plus"

It is proposed that a new term be used in the Tourettes area for
children having Tourettes PLUS some a certain common sort of additional
problem (thus: "TS Plus"). This term shall be used to refer to
children with Tourette's who have depression problems or lack of
identity and/or self-esteem and lack of self acceptance *due to*
problems with the parenting they have received. Let me be yet more
specific about the language usage proposed.:

It is thought that Tourettes children can easily and "naturally" have an
image problem, that is surely made more intense and stressful by an
intrusive parent (or parents) or by parent(s) showing neurotic or
complusive or perfectionistic tendencies, esp. in irrational ways
(either with themselves or in dealings with others). It is so likely
that this significantly affects the manifestation and course of the
disorder that special cases of children conforming to the description
*and* with parents conforming to the specific description be designiated
Tourettes Syndrome Plus (or TS Plus) for short.

It s thought that once this term "TS Plus" gets into the research
literature a meaningful and important subgroup of children with
Tourettes will have been better identified. I would appreciate all help
in carrying this dialog forward to further the better identification of
these children and in putting more focus on them and what will help this
important and precious subgroup of children. Thank you. It will also
lead to better help for the parents of these children. I would
appreciate this idea being shared with other newsgroups you may know of
and mailing lists. Thank you.
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BlessedBy2

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Sep 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/14/98
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Hi Brad.

Bye Brad.

Joanne Cohen , LCSW

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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Oh, so THAT's what Brad does? I was gettin' all bent out of shape....Funny
to those of you who know him, but (are you listening Brad?) NOT so funny to
new parents who might take it seriously. I don't know as much about you as
the rest, but methinks you need to grow up a little and consider the
emotions, feelings, heartaches, and hopes of others reading this newsgroup.
Ya know what they say, comedy at the expense of hurting others is NEVER
funny. You need to get out more, buddy. In the real world.
--
Joanne Cohen MSW, LCSW

BlessedBy2 <bless...@aol.com> wrote in article
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> Hi Brad.
>
> Bye Brad.
>

DrMom811

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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>Oh, so THAT's what Brad does? I was gettin' all bent out of shape....Funny
>to those of you who know him, but (are you listening Brad?) NOT so funny to
>new parents who might take it seriously. I don't know as much about you as
>the rest,

I'm pretty much a newbie, too - and I'm slowly learning about Brad & his sock
puppets - who obviously have been clogged in the lint trap too long . I was
getting pretty worked up about that post - thank God that BB2 is on puppet
alert. But, could some of you old hands give us a little background on the
meanie? Enough to perhaps recognise him, so that the rest of us could join the
patrol? Thanks in advance.

Barb

BlessedBy2

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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Barb, I don't want to fill in the background in Leslie's absence -- I might get
it wrong. Best to let it die for now ... BB2

Haejintien

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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There's a whole web site about him that can explain better than any of us.
Unfortunately, I don't have the address. Anyone???

Dominique :)

BlessedBy2

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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>There's a whole web site about him that can explain better than any of us.
>Unfortunately, I don't have the address. Anyone???
>
>Dominique :)

http://www.wharton.demon.co.uk/NewIntro.htm

Pamzee1

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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In article <74d33f8d89afa64f5b9987ae95e4aaeb@anonymous>, Anonymous lo14
<nob...@lo14.wroc.pl> writes:

>New technical term to be introduced: "TS Plus"
>
>It is proposed that a new term be used in the Tourettes area for
>children having Tourettes PLUS some a certain common sort of additional
>problem (thus: "TS Plus"). This term shall be used to refer to
>children with Tourette's who have depression problems or lack of
>identity

Hi Brad...er...I mean..."Nobody"! (still searching for YOUR identity, I see...)

>and/or self-esteem and lack of self acceptance *due to*
>problems with the parenting they have received.

Hmmm...a parenting problem...can you share with us a little more about YOUR
parents...

> Let me be yet more
>specific about the language usage proposed.:
>
>It is thought that Tourettes children can easily and "naturally" have an
>image problem,

You don't say! An image problem, eh? Would you compare this to, say...sort of
like looking in YOUR mirror and seeing a "sock" staring back at you...?

>that is surely made more intense and stressful by an
>intrusive parent (or parents) or by parent(s) showing neurotic or
>complusive or perfectionistic tendencies, esp. in irrational ways
>(either with themselves or in dealings with others).

You poor man! What you must have endured...

> It is so likely
>that this significantly affects the manifestation and course of the
>disorder that special cases of children conforming to the description
>*and* with parents conforming to the specific description be designiated
>Tourettes Syndrome Plus (or TS Plus) for short.

(just a slight correction here, folks...I believe that last line should read:
"...Brad Jessnes Plus (or BJ Plus) for short.")



>It s thought that once this term "TS Plus" gets into the research
>literature a meaningful and important subgroup of children with
>Tourettes will have been better identified. I would appreciate all help
>in carrying this dialog forward

No problem! <lifting the lid of the trash can> More than happy to help!

> to further the better identification of
>these children and in putting more focus on them and what will help this
>important and precious subgroup of children. Thank you. It will also
>lead to better help for the parents of these children. I would
>appreciate this idea being shared with other newsgroups you may know of
>and mailing lists. Thank you.

You are VERY welcome!

Pam, Happily And Helpfully Forwarding The Above To Alt.Kook...


DrMom811

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Sep 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/16/98
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>Barb, I don't want to fill in the background in Leslie's absence -- I might
>get
>it wrong. Best to let it die for now ... BB2

Ok, I'll wait til Leslie's back, and I'll check out the web site in her
absence.

I was given it as:
/www.wharton.demon.cp.uk/NewIntro.htm

Thanks,

Barb

Joanne Cohen , LCSW

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Sep 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/16/98
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Will someone Puh-lease tell me what a "sock-puppet" is?! Thanks!
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RandallBart

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Sep 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/16/98
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Joanne Cohen , LCSW wrote:
>
> Oh, so THAT's what Brad does? I was gettin' all bent out of shape....

LOL! Yes, THAT's what Brad does! Perhaps you were wondering why Leslie
asked us to watch out for him? LOL

Hey Brad, cut it out. We're all very sorry about your penis, but that's
no excuse for this behaviour.

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RandallBart

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Sep 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/16/98
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Joanne Cohen , LCSW wrote:
>
> Will someone Puh-lease tell me what a "sock-puppet" is?! Thanks!
> --

When a person posts messages from two or more email addresses in an
attempt to make people believe he is two or more people, these email
addresses are called sock puppets.

AIUI, Brad Jesness has posted from over 400 email addresses, which makes
him a major league puppeteer.

John M Price

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Sep 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/16/98
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In article <199809150319...@ladder01.news.aol.com> BlessedBy2 <bless...@aol.com> wrote:
: Barb, I don't want to fill in the background in Leslie's absence -- I might get

: it wrong. Best to let it die for now ... BB2

And we don't want to give out all the clues. Though I will say, he is
stupid enough not to be able to use them.

And, sorry I missed this one. Monday was the last time I looked in....

: >
: >I'm pretty much a newbie, too - and I'm slowly learning about Brad & his sock


: >puppets - who obviously have been clogged in the lint trap too long . I was
: >getting pretty worked up about that post - thank God that BB2 is on puppet
: >alert. But, could some of you old hands give us a little background on the
: >meanie? Enough to perhaps recognise him, so that the rest of us could join
: >the
: >patrol? Thanks in advance.
: >
: >Barb


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