This has gotten completely out of hand.
Haggis Reg
>From: Taz <lil...@swbell.net>
>Date: Sun, 24 October 1999 03:20 PM EDT
>Message-id: <38135C07...@swbell.net>
>
>This letter is to inform anyone who may have a part >in this latest episode
that they have committed a >federal offense by threatening me
>with bodily harm over the internet. I truly hope that >NO one from this
newsgroup has had anything to do >with this but because of some of the things
the >person said I have to believe that someone from this >NG put them up to
it.
>
>The FBI and my local police dept. have been
>notified. Calling someone dirty names and using >abusive language is one thing
but threatening to
>do someone bodily harm is against the law. If it is >over the internet it
becomes a federal offense since >the net goes across state lines. The person
that wrote >the letter made the mistake of going through his ISP's
>news server so it will be extremely easy to find him. I >hope whoever is
behind this understands that they >have not scared me, they have made me
>even madder. Now I will go out of my way to find >them and prosecute them.
>
>So to whoever is doing this a word to the wise.
>Back off before you are in more trouble than you >can get out of by yourself.
>
>Mark
>
The person who wrote those things is a Private Investigator.
Since he runs a business he should not be difficult
to find, so you might as well stop pretending that you have to "track him
down".
He isn't hiding.
BTW - Thanks for writing and letting me know what was going on. I wouldn't
have missed this for the world.
-Haggis The "Real Head Case"
BKI
Date of Birth: July 27, 1949
Height 5'4" Weight 210
Address: 2408 XXXX Way
Mesquite, Texas 75150-1960
At least I redacted part of your street name.
Green Eyes/Brown Hair.
I guess you get the point, I do know exactly who you are.
NO one threatened you.
I defy you to post one threat of physical harm that I or anyone else has
made.
I would like to see how you read a threat of physical harm into that post
that I made over on our NG.
Markus, oh Markus,
Are you so stupid that you do not know that every post to Usenet is archived
for ten years.
Did you not know that your own rantings are what got me involved, then I
just read everything that you have posted for the past several years (well
not all of it, there was a ton) and decided that you are a complete raving
moron all on my own.
After all, it does not take a rocket scientist to see that you are a
nut-case. Totally off your rocker there big fella.
Oh, I should say short, fat, no penis fella shouldn't I?
Markus, oh Markus, you know how to keep me from hounding you for the rest of
your life? As long as I stay within the rules, I can post anything I want.
Freedom of speech is such a wonderful thing, isn't it? You have abused it
so long, now someone is dishing it out just as good as you and you run and
cry about it.
What a total fraud you are. A loser with no life and nothing better to do
than to abuse and denegrate people here that are really seeking answers to
some difficult questions.
All you have to do, is do what most real men would do in this situation.
Apologize like a real Texas gentleman and maybe stay quiet for a little
while so you can rethink the way you deal with others.
The entire reason I flamed your ass so hard should have been evident, but
since you really are that stupid I guess I am going to have to spell it out.
I was attempting to allow you to see and feel what you have done to many in
this NG for the past several years. I was hoping that it would cause you to
take a time out and realize what a total ass-hole you have been. You know
for someone that claims a 132 IQ, it amazes me that you cannot grasp that
concept.
Like the poor kid that came in here seeking some assistance and professing
his faith in Christ. You just hammered that kid and acted like a total
idiot.
You are even so ignorant as to think that someone else had to put me up to
this. Nope, just one real man trying to make another person that claims to
be a man, see the errors of his ways.
If you would stop and take a deep breath for a second, you might understand
what is happening.
I will contact you in private (no not a threat, I mean by email) so that we
can talk about it.
Actually, I am really a nice guy, you just have a knack of bringing out the
old ex-cop in me that has a hard time taking crap off of wannabe bad guys
that wouldn't make a pimple on a real bad man's ass.
Take care LilPenis er, sorry, Markus, Taz, LilHulk.
Have a nice evening. Be talking to you soon.
BKI
Taz <lil...@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:38136F46...@swbell.net...
: The person who is doing this is not GUS MORROW. If what you say is true
about this
: person being a PI then he has just put his license in jeopardy. You just
better
: hope that you didn't have anything to do with this. If you did I will
prosecute.
:
: Mark
:
:
:
: Haggis Reg wrote:
:
: > ><HTML><PRE>Subject: This has gotten completely out of hand.
:
BKI
BKI <dont.feel.lik...@this.time.com> wrote in message news:...
: Markus Lee Horner
: :
:
:
BKI
is getting so untrusting of you. Did you ever stop to think that just maybe
you bring a lot of it on yourself? I realize that you probably don't since
your a cop and you can do no wrong. At least that's what you think. When I
was growing up in the 50's and early 60's I could think of the cops as
friends but no more. And when one of your brethern makes a statement like
"If I want to hear anything from you I will come ask you" what the hell can
you expect? All of you need to take a very hard look at yourself in the
mirror and ask "Would I want to be treated the way I treat people on the
street?"
Nough said.
Mark"
Do you remember writing that Mark?
Look at the very last line.
Think about that.
Would you want to be treated the way you treat people in here?
Something to think about anyway.
BKI
gjma...@pop.flash.net
have with Mark, but if you make accusations, at least have the courage
to identify yourself. What a coward!!!
--------------
Gary
BKI
:
:
: BKI wrote:
:
: > I guess you get the point, I do know exactly who you are.
: > NO one threatened you.
: > I defy you to post one threat of physical harm that I or anyone else has
: > made.
: > I would like to see how you read a threat of physical harm into that
post
: > that I made over on our NG.
:
: It's not a matter of whether I do or not. The FBI agent that I spoke with
and
: faxed a copy of your post to sure seemed to think that it constitutes a
: terroristic threat. When I fax to her proof that you think that you know
where I
: live she might not find that very funny either. If your an ex-cop like you
say
: you are then you know that the feds can sometimes be very unsociable about
this
: sort of thing.
Markus, I am glad you talked to her. Worked a case for them not too long
ago. Even trained about 12 in LA two weeks ago on how to do Internet Fraud
Investigations. We will have a great laugh over you.
:
: If you think I am a real nut case then you might want to be careful what
you do
: and say. As an ex-cop you should be well aware that you never know what
people
: like me are likely to do. I might do almost anything.
:
And you think I threatened you? Look up doofus, the above is just about as
threatening as what I wrote. Neither of which constitutes a legal threat.
Unlike you, I just laugh it off.
: >
: >
:
: > The entire reason I flamed your ass so hard should have been evident,
but
: > since you really are that stupid I guess I am going to have to spell it
out.
: > I was attempting to allow you to see and feel what you have done to many
in
: > this NG for the past several years. I was hoping that it would cause
you to
: > take a time out and realize what a total ass-hole you have been.
:
: So now your admitting that you harrassed me. Nice move Ace. Well how could
I if
: I am the stupid moron you claim I am. Duh.......
:
Please point out in the paragraph above where I admist to harassing you. I
said I flamed you. That is net-speak for criticizing in a strong or
vehement manner.
:
: > You just hammered that kid and acted like a total
: > idiot.
:
: Yeah, and if you make the mistake of ever confronting me face to face I'll
: hammer you even harder. But then again your probably too big a coward for
that.
: You'' ll get some rookie cop to do your dirty work for you.
Another veiled non-threat? And you get all worked up over that one little
line I posted in that other thread.
Mark, you know I pulled your criminal history a minute ago. Wonderful thing
about Texas, it is all PUBLIC RECORD. Totally accessible. Seems that you
have been using that Tourette's thing as a crutch to get out of trouble a
lot. I don't doubt that you have a problem, but are you sure you weren't
misdiagnosed. After all you posted a couple years ago that your were
misdiagmnosed for a long time. Maybe it is not the tourette's that is
causing the rage attacks. Maybe it is just a screwed up personality as the
result of some traumatic childhood event. You did say in one post that it
was very traumatizing to you when you found out that boys and girls had
different plumbing. (Your own words verbatim)
Mark, you might want to think about getting another opinion on your
diagnosis. I have some experience with Tourette's Syndrome and none of the
people that I have dealt with that have that condition act half as bad as
you. I think it might be MPD, or Multiple Personality Disorder that you
have. Maybe even some Sociopathic tendencies with a little psychosis thrown
in for good measure.
: >
: >
: > If you would stop and take a deep breath for a second, you might
understand
: > what is happening.
: > I will contact you in private (no not a threat, I mean by email) so that
we
: > can talk about it.
: >
:
: You and I have absolutely NOTHING to discuss. Any attempt on your part to
: contact me in any other manner than posting to a public newsgroup will be
: considered harrassement and I will send a copy of it (and this letter to
the FBI
: and the Mesquite PD). Get the picture?
:
: >
:
: Never said I wanted to be a badass. Society (and people like you who have
no
: idea of what is really going on) has helped to create this monster. If you
have
: ever been around anyone with tourette's and rage attacks then you already
know
: that I'm not the guy that you want to be pissing off even if you are an
ex-cop.
: You're no more bullet proof than I am. I don't even own a gun because I
know
: what would happen. My rage attacks are far too violent to even take that
chance.
: So here's some good advice. Back off and leave me alone before this goes
too far
: and somebody ends up in the hospital.
Mark, another veiled threat. Ooooh I think that I am going to call my FBI
friends and cry to them that the big bad man with tourette's is threatening
me. I think I just might have to hide. NOT.
You still don't get it do you.
Harassment is a legally definable term. Go look it up in the Penal Code. I
am not harassing you. You don't have to read this newsgroup or any other
for that matter. I am exercising my rights to free speech. I am not sending
this to your email, or calling your house. I am not sending you any mail.
I am posting to a public newsgroup.
Did you ever sue that Baylor police officer that had you arrested? You
posted that you did, but I can't find any record of it at the courts
building. Another blustering bluff?
You know the funny thing. The FBI has a lot more important things to do
than worry about one post on usenet. I know, I really did have a training
seminar in which quite a few of them showed up. Matter of fact, I am
working a fraud case right now that was not big enough for them to get
involved in so we went to the Postal Inspectors and they are working it with
me. Nah, the FBI computer people in Dallas are busy tracking down hackers
and the like. Real bad people, not little old harmless cowardly me.
In the unlikely event that one does show up on my doorstep, I will be happy
to show them all your stuff, and these, oh so dangerous non-threats you made
and we will all have a good chuckle over coffee. NO, no doughnuts for me,
too cliche`.
Good night, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite.
BKI
:
: >
: > Take care LilPenis er, sorry, Markus, Taz, LilHulk.
:
:
BKI
I will never let things go to the point of no return, as you put it. I
don't take this stuff so seriously. I have not even lost my temper yet.
It was all an exercise, that is all.
I have not problem letting stuff go and allowing this thing to die, but you
have to remember that as long as you go ballistic on people, there will be
people like me around that take offense to your actions and get involved.
It might not have been in my personal interest, but it is like driving down
the road and seeing a lady on the shoulder with a flat tire, down here a
real man stops and assists. No strings attached, no ulterior motives, just
'cause it is what Momma taught us to do.
Same principle, driving down the Information Superhighway and I see some
people in distress over one person that goes ballistic and says some really
cruel things and really goes out of his way to intimidate and bully them. I
have to stop and assist, it is instinctive and part of me.
Nothing personal, just what we do.
I think your idea of a time out is a great one, think I suggested something
just like that. When you come back, please remember to get up and walk away
before you type anything that could be seen as vitriolic or hurtful,
remember, everything you say does effect someone.
BKI
Taz <lil...@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:3815BDFB...@swbell.net...
:
:
: BKI wrote:
:
: > Taz <lil...@swbell.net> wrote in message
: > news:381519F6...@swbell.net...
: > :
: > :
: >
:
: Brian,
:
: This has gotten waaay out of hand on both sides. I really don't think that
: either one of us wants to continue this fight (I know that I don't). I'm
: proposing that we call a truce to this right here and now before it goes
any
: further. Before it gets to the point of no return for either one of us.
Both of
: us have let our testosterone get the better of us. I'm no match for you on
many
: different levels. Hell, that's no big secret. I have no intention of
coming to
: look for you ( Never did) and you seem to have far more important things
to do
: than put time and effort into causing me trouble. I know that I have run
out of
: desire to carry this any further. My main concern everyday has got to be
taking
: care of my family the best way I can.
:
: If your willing to let this thing die then I will completely stop posting
on
: your NG. I'll probably stop posting anywhere for awhile so that everyone
: concerned can calm down and get a realistic perspective. I think that you
will
: agree that in the whole scheme of trying to get through each day this
little
: flame war means absolutely nothing. So why don't we let it die a natural
death
: and let's get back to the business of trying to be the best husbands and
fathers
: that we can be. It's not fair to either of our family's to continue this
thing.
: The time and effort that we are putting into this would be better spent
with our
: family's.
:
: Mark
:
:
BKI
Date: 1999/01/08
Author: Hulk <hu...@onramp.net>
{snipped out the original message}
> What thoughts have we on this?
>
> Rachel
I think my traumatic event was discovering that boys and girls don't have
the same plumbing.
Mark
Mark,
the only reason I posted this is so that you can understand that I don't
make things up.
Like you said, we are going to give this a rest, but you asked where I was
getting all this stuff. The archives like I told you before.
BKI
Taz <lil...@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:3815B647...@swbell.net...
:
:
: BKI wrote:
:
: >
: > Another veiled non-threat? And you get all worked up over that one
little
: > line I posted in that other thread.
: > Mark, you know I pulled your criminal history a minute ago. Wonderful
thing
: > about Texas, it is all PUBLIC RECORD. Totally accessible.
:
: I'm aware of that. As you already know then I am not guilty of anything
worse
: than simple assault or not paying a traffic ticket. I never said that I
was a
: badman, never wanted to be for that matter. I know some people who are
though. I
: never want to be like any of them either. All I ever wanted to be was a
good
: father for my little girl and try to be as good a provider as I can be,
whatever
: that turns out to be.
:
:
: > Maybe it is just a screwed up personality as the
: > result of some traumatic childhood event. You did say in one post that
it
: > was very traumatizing to you when you found out that boys and girls had
: > different plumbing. (Your own words verbatim)
:
: I never said this anywhere. Where are you getting this stuff from?
:
:
: >
:
:
Bjds17
lay off. Enough already.
Let this NG get back to what is it supposed to be - a NG about TS.
Melanie Smith
investi...@cableinet.co.uk
Mark, you rubbed up the wrong guy as well as upsetting a whole lot of
his mates. Leave it be now.
Tony Smith
LIverpool
UK