(fwd) New Tourette term proposed
Z. H. Richardson
> World Tourette Society <headqt@w_tourette_org.com>
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> New Tourette term proposed
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> Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:49:36 +0900
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> New technical term to be introduced: "TS, Plus"
>
> It is proposed that a new term be used in the Tourettes area for
> children having Tourettes PLUS some a certain common sort of additional
> problem (thus: "TS, Plus"). This term shall be used to refer to
> children with Tourette's who have depression problems or lack of
> identity and/or self-esteem and lack of self acceptance *due to*
> problems with the parenting they have received. Let me be yet more
> specific about the language usage proposed.:
>
> It is thought that Tourettes children can easily and "naturally" have an
> image problem, that is surely made more intense and stressful by an
> intrusive parent (or parents) or by parent(s) showing neurotic or
> complusive or perfectionistic tendencies, esp. in irrational ways
> (either with themselves or in dealings with others). It is so likely
> that this significantly affects the manifestation and course of the
> disorder that special cases of children conforming to the description
> *and* with parents conforming to the specific description be designiated
> Tourettes Syndrome Plus (or TS, Plus for short).
>
> It s thought that once this term "TS, Plus" gets into the research
> literature a meaningful and important subgroup of children with
> Tourettes will have been better identified. I would appreciate all help
> in carrying this dialog forward to further the better identification of
> these children and in putting more focus on them and what will help this
> important and precious subgroup of children. It will also
> lead to better help for the parents of these children. I would
> appreciate this idea being shared with other newsgroups you may know of
> and mailing lists. Thank you.
> ---
j...@mail.bcinternet.net
Is this for real???? Here I thought (and I was just recently at a conference about it) that TS+
referred to those persons with TS who had associated disorders such as ADHD, OCD, etc.
Nowhere did I hear any reference to neurotic parents being at the heart of this diagnosis....just
what we need, some more parent-bashing! JCS
In article <1998082403...@midas.millcomm.com>
Roger D. Freeman, M.D.
object to the reasoning behind this proposal. This would be a step
backward.
-- Roger D. Freeman, M.D.
Kathryn A Taubert
DO NOT RESPOND.
We believe this is the infamous B.J. again, attempting to do an end run on
Dr. Packer, among others, again.
This is NOT legitimate issue for your concern.
KAT in CT
Z. H. Richardson wrote in message
<1998082403...@midas.millcomm.com>...
>Saw this in science and psychology newsgroups:
>
>> World Tourette Society <headqt@w_tourette_org.com>
>> From:
>> World Tourette Society <headqt@w_tourette_org.com>
>> Organization:
lpacker
The original poster posting as "World Tourette Society" is Bradley L.
Jesness of Hopkins MN, July 1997 Kook of the Month, and holder of
numerous other net kook awards.
And the helpful "re-poster" "Z. H. Richardson" is ALSO another alias
for Bradley L. Jesness of Hopkins MN.
Please ignore Brad in all his glorious and lame aliases.
Brad: if you continue upsetting parents with your attempts to
confuse and "parent bash" you may discover that I will post
instructions in alt.support.tourette as to how irate or upset members
of the public can file ethical grievances against you with the
American Psychological Association.
I am NOT playing games, Brad. Leave these people alone.
Leslie
--
Leslie E. Packer, PhD
"Z. H. Richardson" <ri...@supernews.com> wrote:
>Saw this in science and psychology newsgroups:
>
>> World Tourette Society <headqt@w_tourette_org.com>
>> From:
>> World Tourette Society <headqt@w_tourette_org.com>
>> Organization:
>> none
>> Subject:
>> New Tourette term proposed
>> Message-ID:
>> <FQ5fUnw...@news4.netsgo.com>
>> Newsgroups:
>> sci.psychology.psychotherapy
[snip of Brad's utter bullsh*t.]
--
For information on Tourette Syndrome, see http://www.erols.com/lepacker
For info on support services and resources on TS in the Long Island area,
see http://members.xoom.com/LITSA
Haejintien
>Jesness of Hopkins MN, July 1997 Kook of the Month, and holder of
>numerous other net kook awards.
>
>And the helpful "re-poster" "Z. H. Richardson" is ALSO another alias
>for Bradley L. Jesness of Hopkins MN.
>
>Please ignore Brad in all his glorious and lame aliases.
>
>
Could someone please post the site again that tells the history of this Brad
character so the new people can understand what is going on and thereby avoid
getting drug into Brad's games?? I don't have the site address myself.
Dominique
Tom Vogel
lpacker
[LP had written:]
>>Please ignore Brad in all his glorious and lame aliases.
>>
>Could someone please post the site again that tells the history of this Brad
>character so the new people can understand what is going on and thereby avoid
>getting drug into Brad's games?? I don't have the site address myself.
>
>Dominique
Go to http://www.wharton.demon.co.uk/ and read the FAQ on him. Then
skim the Killfile list showing over 350 aliases and realize that it
hasn't been updated for the week. Right now, his most frequent
remailers are Wazoo, netsgo.com, and replay.com, but he's also using
cyberpass.net and some other ones.
Just so you know: he's posted to ast in the past, using screen
aliases. Always in an attempt to harass me, and never caring how
many parents or others he may upset who don't know and might take his
posts to heart.
And for those who don't read other newsgroups, please be aware that
Brad has now publicly threatened to get me thrown out of the APA for
making accusations about him, etc. To which I intelligently respond:
<snort>
I'm just sorry that Brad can't keep his hatred and obsession with me
out of this newsgroup, but as "old-timers" here will tell you, we go
through this periodically with him.
Follow-ups set *out* of a.s.t. and to newsgroups where Brad's net
kookery is on-topic.
Leslie
Bob Geller
>
> All ya'll. THIS IS A TROLL.
> DO NOT RESPOND.
> We believe this is the infamous B.J. again, attempting to do an end run on
> Dr. Packer, among others, again.
> This is NOT legitimate issue for your concern.
> KAT in CT
boring that you're putting me to sleep, Bob