Deviated septum and tinnitus

[Lee Stogner]

I have a deviated septum that results in one of my nasal passages
being blocked at all times. Can this condition along with a clogged
sinus create or increase the effect of tinnitus ?

My hope is that having my deviated septum corrected will reduce my
tinnitus. Has anyone else done this with good results ?

Thanks,

Lee Stogner

l.st...@ieee.org

[SPfautsch]

I just can't believe that I didn't write that as I am experiencing the same
thing. I made an appointment for October 23 to see if I can have mine
corrected. I have suffered for 15 long years and belive that it is my septum
as well. When I inspire a deep breath, the tinnitus goes away for a few
seconds. When I wear those nasal bandages and jog on my treadmill it stops
for quite a whilel and I feel almost normal--quiet and calm. Please feel free
to e-mail me with your ideas. I hope we can both put this nightmare behind
us. The best of luck to you. Please keep in touch.

Susan

[SPfautsch]

I went to see an ent today to see if he could correct my septum. He does not
seem to think it is linked to my pulsatile tinnitus. My operation is
scheduled for the end of November. I will let you know if it helps. It makes
sense though to have more oxygen feed the ear, can't hurt.

Susan Pfautsch

[Jim Chinnis]

spfa...@aol.com (SPfautsch) wrote:

Susan, the body's chemistry responds to changes in oxygen in
respiration in order to keep the oxygen level correct in the
bloodstream. Unless you could barely breathe for some reason
because of a deviated septum, correcting it would not change the
oxygen supply to your ear.

Has your doctor looked for circulatory problems within the area
of the inner and middle ear? Sometimes these are found from
various imaging techniques, and sometimes a cure can be achieved.
--
Jim Chinnis / Manassas, VA, USA / American Tinnitus Association member
If replying by email, use the following address without the X: Xjch...@alum.mit.edu

[SPfautsch]

>Susan, the body's chemistry responds to changes in oxygen in
>respiration in order to keep the oxygen level correct in the
>bloodstream. Unless you could barely breathe for some reason
>because of a deviated septum, correcting it would not change the
>oxygen supply to your ear.
>
>Has your doctor looked for circulatory problems within the area
>of the inner and middle ear? Sometimes these are found from
>various imaging techniques, and sometimes a cure can be achieved.
>--

The doctor said the deviation was very bad. He couldn't say whether this would
correct my tinnitus. The reason I think it might is because when I inspire a
deep breath, the t stops for a few seconds. Also, in the early stages of my
tinnitus, I went to an ENT and he put a tube up my nose and squeezed in some
air and the t went away for 24 hours. This happened again when I had surgery
and had oxygen tubes up nose. This also happens when I wear those nasal
bandages on and hit the treadmill. I originally thought it was a vascular
etiology and had an angiogram which was normal. I don't know if this is the
answer but I won't know for sure if I don't have it done. It would be ironic
if the answer was "as plain as the nose on my face".
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[SPfautsch]

Why not just fix the deviated septum and see if the tinnitus lessens. Can
blocked sinuses cause tinnitus? Or can a sigmoid sinus cause tinnitus. I
think it is best to correct any breathing irregularity. When I use those
nasal strips and jog or any aerobic activity my tinnitus improves. I know one
case is not the same for all but stranger things are known to happen. If I
have some positive info to share after I have my septum fixed, I will let you
know. If not, at least I will be able to breathe better.

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>You can try a test: Tape the tip of your nose up in such a manner as to
>improve your breathing. See if that helps.

Susan Pf

[Elly Byrne]

jchi...@dotcom.com (Jim Chinnis) wrote:

>>The doctor said the deviation was very bad. He couldn't say whether this would
>> correct my tinnitus. The reason I think it might is because when I inspire a
>> deep breath, the t stops for a few seconds. Also, in the early stages of my
>> tinnitus, I went to an ENT and he put a tube up my nose and squeezed in some
>> air and the t went away for 24 hours. This happened again when I had surgery
>> and had oxygen tubes up nose. This also happens when I wear those nasal
>> bandages on and hit the treadmill.

I think this is fascinating. Please post us back any further news.
Did the ENT offer any explanation for this?
(Why haven't I got the original of this)

Elly's Tinnitus Snippets
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ebyrne

[thee...@gmail.com]

Lee I am scheduled for the same thing along with ventilator tube insertion as tests showed a Eustachian tube closure problem as well. My theory is this; nasal congestion often leads to nasal drip and unequal pressurization from the nasal passages which are connected to the ear. The pulsative issue and neurological aspects are separate and may continue but will surely be helped to a degree by the surgery.

[Peter Perros]

Dear fellow tinnitus (T) sufferer. If the infection is causing a build
up of mucus in the eustacian tube or inside the middle ear you may be
in luck. T can vary according to stress and blood pressure, and
intensity of distracting background noise.

Use copious amounts of Fes and prescription nasal spray like Nasonex
(or whatever it is called in your country) to reduce the obstruction.
Flush your sinuses with mild warm salt water (instructions on
Internet). Here in Australia antibiotics are being prescribed less
frequently owing to the potential for MSRA and other
antibiotic-resistant infections. AB's also kill good bacteria.

Your T may also respond to relaxation, mandibular massage, avoiding
caffeine and loud noises (power tools, loud music, explosions),
cardiovascular exercise, red wine, melatonin at night, and regular
preventative sinus therapy (Fes, Nasonex).

If you snore get yourself tested for slkeep apnoea, as I believe this
impacts on blood flow in delicate capillaries in the ear. In fact it
is probably a good idea to get a full medical to rule out diabetes,
anaemia, and other basic medical conditions that affect blood supply
to the brain.

Sadly T is a neurological disorder, usually irreversible, and once it
manifests it takes a couple of years to settle down (using steps
above). You end up with a barely noticeable hiss or cricket-like
sounds that are barely noticeable during the day. At night, sleep with
the radio on (set it to turn off after 60 or 90 minutes), play it low
but just audible above the T. Avoid absolute silence at night, esp if
you over-focus on T sounds. If you do find something to do to take
your focus away from T.

There is no cure for T. It forces us to adapt and adjust.

Once you adapt you will hardly notice it.

The deviated septum may be a red herring, but always consult an Ear
Nose & Throat specialist, and as I said above, if you snore get it
checked out.

Hope this helps.

[Bart V]

I have one of them crooked noses too and yes, the smallest amount of
mucus, or whatever, blocks the nasal passages. For some people this
does increase the likelyhood of noticing their tinnitus a little more.

The easiest and cheapest way to unclog your nasal passages is to do a
nasal flush with a saline solution. NeilMed (in the U.S.) makes a
teriffic kit, a squirt bottle and some saline packages to get you
started. This one is great as it the squirting is powerful enough to
dislodge the boogers. They also make a "tea kettle" that you just drip
in while your head is upside down, not overly desirable. This kit is
available is pretty much any drug store in North America for about
$10.

My ENT gave me a recipe to make my own saline solution: boil 1 liter
of water to sterilize it and add 1 teaspoon of additive-free salt (no
iodine, fluoride or whatever) like pickling salt. Do the flushing
while you're under the shower because every now and then whatever
comes flushing out is pretty gross. I was told that because there is
zero medication in this saline solution you can use it as often as you
like without having to worry about overdosing on meds.

Yup, really helps and it's dirt cheap.

[nar...@interscopeltd.com]

On Friday, 24 October 1997 12:30:00 UTC+5:30, SPfautsch wrote:
> >Susan, the body's chemistry responds to changes in oxygen in
> >respiration in order to keep the oxygen level correct in the
> >bloodstream. Unless you could barely breathe for some reason
> >because of a deviated septum, correcting it would not change the
> >oxygen supply to your ear.
> >
> >Has your doctor looked for circulatory problems within the area
> >of the inner and middle ear? Sometimes these are found from
> >various imaging techniques, and sometimes a cure can be achieved.
> >--

> The doctor said the deviation was very bad. He couldn't say whether this would
> correct my tinnitus. The reason I think it might is because when I inspire a
> deep breath, the t stops for a few seconds. Also, in the early stages of my
> tinnitus, I went to an ENT and he put a tube up my nose and squeezed in some
> air and the t went away for 24 hours. This happened again when I had surgery
> and had oxygen tubes up nose. This also happens when I wear those nasal

> bandages on and hit the treadmill. I originally thought it was a vascular
> etiology and had an angiogram which was normal. I don't know if this is the
> answer but I won't know for sure if I don't have it done. It would be ironic
> if the answer was "as plain as the nose on my face".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Susan , I saw this article - thought it looks old - just wanted to know if operating on Deviated Septum helped you to get rid of Tinnitus ? thnks

[Bart V]

>Susan , I saw this article - thought it looks old - just wanted to know if operating on Deviated Septum helped you to get rid of Tinnitus ? thnks

I'm not not but I did get my deviated sceptum operated on twice - zero
change in my tinnitus.

[nmta...@gmail.com]

I had surgery to fix my deviated septum in September of 2014. I was diagnosed with Meniere's Disease about 4 years ago and was suffering from it after trying all sorts of remedies (low sodium diet, avoiding caffeine, diuretics, migraine medication). The tinnitus used to worsen in the winters. Just the other day I realized it has not bothered me at all ever since I had surgery to fix my deviated septum and a turbinate reduction. I truly believe the two have to be linked! It is possible I never had Meniere's disease, rather I had tinnitus caused by the deviated septum. So many things have been fixed since I had the surgery, it was not an easy recovery process but the benefits have significantly outweighed the cons and I highly recommend all those who are candidates to try the deviated septum surgery. I no longer snore, my nasal voice is gone, my nose doesn't run nearly as much, allergy season is a bit more tolerable for me, I can smell food perfectly well, and, the BEST benefit, my tinnitus is long gone!

[coltonk...@gmail.com]

Hi, I saw your post while googling things related to tinnitus and deviated septums. I was also diagnosed with menieres disease recently but have lacked some of the symptoms such as the drop attacks. What I do have is tinnitus. I am scheduled for a septoplasty in April, and I am really want to know more about your experience. I am literally hanging on to your post as a thread of hope that the surgery will lessen the ringing.

I know that I don't know you and all, but your post really gave me some hope. If you get this, please reply. It would mean so much, I can't even begin to explain how much.

Thank you, and thank you again for posting your experience.

Colton Kizzire

[High Miles]

Just one view.
The surgery does improve breathing.............does zip for the noises.

[Bart V]

I've had my deviated sceptum worked on twice over the years. Like the
previous poster mentioned, it sure made breathing easier but it did
not affect my tinnitus.

[coltonk...@gmail.com]

Thats depressing...hopefully i'll have a different outcome.

[thepresiden...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, October 19, 1997 at 4:00:00 AM UTC-3, Lee Stogner wrote:
> I have a deviated septum that results in one of my nasal passages
> being blocked at all times. Can this condition along with a clogged
> sinus create or increase the effect of tinnitus ?
>
> My hope is that having my deviated septum corrected will reduce my
> tinnitus. Has anyone else done this with good results ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lee Stogner
>
> l.st...@ieee.org

I began having tinnitis in 2014, after being put on Cyclobenzaprine for muscle spasms after stroke. Off Cyc now. The ringing is always present, but bearble, louder at times.

Have deviated septum. Diagnosed by Dr. Kirollos of Seaboard Allergy.

Can DS affect vision? Whenever i got out in the sun my eyes - especially my right - the side affected by DS - loses focus. Tonight there is a slight blur to my right eye, and I heard a passing ring atypical to the normal sound of the tinnitis.

There were times in 2014 when I felt like I was about to pass out.

Coul that have been the beginnings of my vnow DS? I CONSTANTLY fel cold-rotten, nose snotting.

Can DS cause muscle on my right-back lower side neck to feel... idk. What part is stroke residuals causing, and what is caused by the DS?

Suicidal here,
Chris.

[ibrahimc...@gmail.com]

j have all the symptoms you said plus anxiety how many days it took you to recover from tinnitus after you did the surgery I am so happy for you

[ibrahimc...@gmail.com]

I have tinnitus since 11..2018 ear problems austachien tube disfunction vertigo sinus problems anxiety and few more problems.did surgery 22 days ago much better in many problems but tinnitus is still after 22 days although some times during the day it gets much quieter