Start with ginko biloba
fyf...@gmail.com
for the simple reason that this method is SIMPLE and INEXPENSIVE, and
has little side-effect if taken properly. A lot of healthy people
take GB as a dietary supplement.
If, after putting yourself on GB for two weeks or so under the
guidance of an experienced pharmacist, you still don't feel it does
anything for you, you can stop it and help yourself with all sorts of
expensive and high-tech gadgets at deluxe ENT clinics. On the other
hand, it GB does help you, you then have the option of either staying
on GB or go ahead to visit various expensive ENT clinics and see if
you can improve on your T with the high-tech/expensive methods.
jrw
Please give it a rest. If you have to post, try and make it
original. Or try to make an original post once a month. I thought
you lived in Canada where access to 'high-tech gadgets at deluxe ENT
clinics' were free to the general public, as they are in most of
Western Europe.
Please post by all means, but try not to post about GB or acupuncture
for the rest of the month.
Best regards
John
Wei Wu Wei
Sorry, but I have been forced to leave this group because of this BS.
Good luck to all fellow T sufferers. I will seek my collaboration
elsewhere.
jrw
Hi Wei,
I am unhappy to see you go. I think things will change around here.
I know that fyfpoon's posts appear to be heartless, but if more of who
do suffer from the condition posted we would dilute the effect.
Best regards
John
fyf...@gmail.com
Keep talking to Bluto, OK?
fyf...@gmail.com
Mr.Wei, do you really think you are that important and that
representative of truth seekers?
fyf...@gmail.com
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Things here have changed for the better as more and more people come
forward to tell their experiences as opposed to having a bunch of
third rate 'scientists' citing around irresponsibly.
jrw
'Things here have changed for the better as more and more people come
forward to tell their experiences as opposed to having a bunch of
third rate 'scientists' citing around irresponsibly.'
Please explain this. I reported a news story, is there something 3rd
rate about this? Do you not think there is something wrong,
irresponsible no less, with endlessly promoting a remedy that has
failed to work for most of us. You seem to be under an illusion here
that we have not heard of this treatment. Before this newsgroup was
just a glint in my eye I had tried GB to no avail. If you googlise
tinnitus you will discover GB, if you have arrived here you know
Google. Tell me what is the point of your sustained campaign is?
If members leave because of your 4th rate postings, why don't you stop
and think about what you are doing, and maybe change tack. There
seems to be a certain triumphalism about your posts that is offensive
to those who are seriously suffering. It's your lack of empathy that
I find so disturbing.
Best regards
John
fyf...@gmail.com
Keep talking to Bluto, OK?
You should be grateful I am putting two of you together as both of you
are wordy people...
jrw
I think you are wordy. Limited words nonetheless. Why do you persist
in telling us something we already know. Its all words and no
feelings.
Best regards
John
fyf...@gmail.com
Please use 'me" instead of 'us'. You are speaking on your own behalf
but not on behalf of 'us'.
. Bluto
I've been to many ENT's and never once has one mentioned expensive
high tech gadgets. BUT they mention GB and how only fools like
FYFOOLPOON would use it.
. Bluto
wrote:
This is impossible for fyfoolpoon because his middle name is GB! Thats
all he knows.
. Bluto
. Bluto
Be careful because fyfoolpoon and janice(larry in pink undies)
frequent and trash other areas too like google groups.
. Bluto
wrote:
>On Sep 2, 7:47 pm, Wei Wu Wei <wei.wu.we...@gmail.com> wrote:
What did you expect from a fool? A non-heartless post? The thing is,
everyone knows what a jack arse he is.
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 9??3??, ????3??21??, jrw <jrwilm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 2, 7:47 pm, Wei Wu Wei <wei.wu.we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sep 2, 10:55 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > I would suggest any newbie who has lately got T should start with GB
>> > > for the simple reason that this method is SIMPLE and INEXPENSIVE, and
>> > > has little side-effect if taken properly. A lot of healthy people
>> > > take GB as a dietary supplement.
>>
>> > > If, after putting yourself on GB for two weeks or so under the
>> > > guidance of an experienced pharmacist, you still don't feel it does
>> > > anything for you, you can stop it and help yourself with all sorts of
>> > > expensive and high-tech gadgets at deluxe ENT clinics. On the other
>> > > hand, it GB does help you, you then have the option of either staying
>> > > on GB or go ahead to visit various expensive ENT clinics and see if
>> > > you can improve on your T with the high-tech/expensive methods.
>>
>> > Sorry, but I have been forced to leave this group because of this BS.
>> > Good luck to all fellow T sufferers. I will seek my collaboration
>> > elsewhere.
>>
>> Hi Wei,
>>
>> I am unhappy to see you go. I think things will change around here.
>> I know that fyfpoon's posts appear to be heartless, but if more of who
>> do suffer from the condition posted we would dilute the effect.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> John- ?????????????? -
>>
>> - ?????????????? -
>
>Things here have changed for the better as more and more people come
>forward to tell their experiences as opposed to having a bunch of
>third rate 'scientists' citing around irresponsibly.
>
Yes, people learn not to use GB, acupuncture and manganse from a DING
DONG in HONK KONG...get it fyfoolpoon?
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Fyfpoon,
>
>'Things here have changed for the better as more and more people come
>forward to tell their experiences as opposed to having a bunch of
>third rate 'scientists' citing around irresponsibly.'
>
>Please explain this. I reported a news story, is there something 3rd
>rate about this? Do you not think there is something wrong,
>irresponsible no less, with endlessly promoting a remedy that has
>failed to work for most of us. You seem to be under an illusion here
>that we have not heard of this treatment. Before this newsgroup was
>just a glint in my eye I had tried GB to no avail. If you googlise
>tinnitus you will discover GB, if you have arrived here you know
>Google. Tell me what is the point of your sustained campaign is?
fyfoolpoon is too stupid to explain anything except his addiction to
crack and GB. He has OCD about GB. Every other word out of his mouth
is GB, GB, GB. He's been ocd with is since he was a suckling.
>
>If members leave because of your 4th rate postings, why don't you stop
>and think about what you are doing, and maybe change tack. There
>seems to be a certain triumphalism about your posts that is offensive
>to those who are seriously suffering. It's your lack of empathy that
>I find so disturbing.
>
>Best regards
His posts do help. It alerts people to what not to use and also
alerts them to see what crack can do to the brain with his ocd GB
fetish.
>
>
>John
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
At least some have a larger vocabulary that GB, GB, GB, GB, GB. Can u
stand on your head and say it too fyfoolpoon? Come on, GGGGGGGG
BBBBBB. Good boy! Now you can smoke another rock.
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Fyfpoon,
Its called OCD John. Fyfoolpoon has a bad case of OCD. Everyone can
see it clearly. His fetish/obsession with GB and crack rule his small
world. GB don't help it, but he tries crack for its benefits. He
needs to go see his "far east" shaman and get some "crackupuncture".
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Geez, a couple sentences without GB in it! Maybe this fool can
recover!
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you done a survey fyfoolpoon?
fyf...@gmail.com
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:13:16 -0700 (PDT), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>
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Keep talking to jrw. Two of you make a good pair.
fyf...@gmail.com
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You are talking to the right person. So go on...
Dan Brum
GB a bit much...but, I think his point is valid. Why not at least try it,
because it's so cheap and you have nothing to lose. Hell, if it helps 1 out of
every 100 T sufferers I think it's worth it!
On an unrelated note, My T of about a year suddenly decreased in severity by
about 90% a couple of months ago. I have absolutely no idea why, but it only
flares up occasionally now, and I can even wear earplugs again! I wish I could
figure out the real reason, but for now I'm not complaining.
jrw
I am happy to read that your tinnitus has greatly reduced in its
severity. I have no problem with Fyfpoon posting here. What I do
find objectionable is the constant repetition coupled with his
incessant triumphalism. Is it too much to ask for one original post a
year?
Best regards
John
Dan Brum
here often enough to object.
And I like how you are civil and present your arguments in a coherent way. What
I can't stand is when the ranting starts about fyfpoon's "crack pipe", "boyscout
friends", and Janice being "Larry in pink undies". THAT is what I consider
unoriginal. At least people should be creative and come up with some new insults :)
fyf...@gmail.com
You have been posting about cell research and asking people if they
have heard of it several times this month. Is it too repetitious? Is
it too much "incessant triumphalism"? Who are you to decide how much
is too much for this group that constantly attracts in newbies? All
you can do is to speak on your own behalf. If you dislike something,
you can always ignore it, as opposed to setting yourself up as a
moralist benchmark of truth upon which others have to follow.
How many original posts do you expect in a subject that even 'experts'
don't really have the answer?
One original post each year? You must be out of your mind! OK...set
an example for the rest of us, and see you next year at the same time.
Words .... words ..and words...
jrw
My question was to you only regarding the breakthroughs in gene
therapy currently being tested. I assume most readers are keeping
abreast of the latest scientific research. I posed the question
because I wonder if you are really interested in the broader
developments in the treatment of tinnitus, instead of the useless
words you continue to write. We do not get newbies here, the
subscription level is dropping, and you are the most frequent poster.
I think that there is a causal relationship, as we have lost one
member already this week saying it was your incessant posts about the
same subject that has driven him to go else where.
Unlike you I provide links to interesting articles. I have no axe to
grind, I am just happy to see more research in this area. You can
criticise me for posting links if you like but I can assure you that
if you happen to click on the URL's, the articles are far from
repetitive.
What possible triumphalism could I possibly have. I do not come here,
week in and week out, telling all that my tinnitus has improved. It
has not, for all I know it might be deteriorating.
I am not asking for highly original posts from you, just the
occasional change of subject.
You are the dealer in useless words. As I have written before, GB and
acupuncture have a limited success rate, some tests have shown, I
think you will recall, that GB has done no better than the placebo
effect. And your response to this... that the double blind system of
drug testing is inappropriate. Useless words Fyfpoon.
Some of the anecdotal evidence that you are so fond of quoting, well
in all likelihood they probably have a temporary form of tinnitus.
Most here have been living with their condition for a very long time.
Best regards
John
fyf...@gmail.com
> Hi Fyfpoon,
>
> My question was to you only regarding the breakthroughs in gene
> therapy currently being tested.
Nevertheless, you have asked this question more than once and thus it
fits into the definition of repetition.
I assume most readers are keeping
> abreast of the latest scientific research.
Your assumption is not necessarily empirically based...
I posed the question
> because I wonder if you are really interested in the broader
> developments in the treatment of tinnitus, instead of the useless
> words you continue to write.
My T has been treated well by acupuncture and GB. Who are you to say
that my words are useless? Why are you so dogmatic?
We do not get newbies here, the
> subscription level is dropping,
Of course we do
and you are the most frequent poster.
> I think that there is a causal relationship, as we have lost one
> member already this week saying it was your incessant posts about the
> same subject that has driven him to go else where.
That member departed because I mentioned GB and others may also depart
because of what you say. That people come and go is done on a free
will basis and is no reflection of anything. If you don't like
something, ignore it instead of opening up your big mouth and act like
a moral dady...
>
> Unlike you I provide links to interesting articles. I have no axe to
> grind, I am just happy to see more research in this area. You can
> criticise me for posting links if you like but I can assure you that
> if you happen to click on the URL's, the articles are far from
> repetitive.
>
I also posted links on GB and acupuncture years back, and some
participants also come forward with their own experiences. Go search
google or yahoo and there is no shortage of links argument on both
sides.
> What possible triumphalism could I possibly have.
Too bad...but I have what you accused me of, as I have experienced
positive outcome from what I have been recommending to the group.
I do not come here,
> week in and week out, telling all that my tinnitus has improved. It
> has not, for all I know it might be deteriorating.
That is your problem but it does not mean others have to follow what
you do. Who are you and what makes you so important?
>
> I am not asking for highly original posts from you, just the
> occasional change of subject.
Mind your fucking business how others conduct theirs...
>
> You are the dealer in useless words.
and you are too...
As I have written before, GB and
> acupuncture have a limited success rate,
WHO are you? Are you an authority on GB and acupuncture or are you
simply a micky mouse poster going into links here and there? have you
had personal experiences with these treatments? I have and this is
why I can say so with confidence.
some tests have shown, I
> think you will recall, that GB has done no better than the placebo
> effect.
And there are other studies done to show it has...What makes you think
the so-called 'controlled studies' done by some groups are that
authoritative and what makes you think the results of this kind of
studies should be allowed to vitiate the clinical experiences of
patients?
And your response to this... that the double blind system of
> drug testing is inappropriate. Useless words Fyfpoon.
>
These are your words or your interpretation of what I said. I
recognize the validty of this kind of studies but like any other kind
of studies it has its limitations. Can you understand the
difference?
> Some of the anecdotal evidence that you are so fond of quoting, well
> in all likelihood they probably have a temporary form of tinnitus.
How do you know? Are you an expert on alternative medicines?
> Most here have been living with their condition for a very long time.
>
How do you know? Have you done a survey on the average length of T
each has suffered from? As Dan Brum said, if it can help one out of
100, it is worth the effort.
You are a big-mouthed ignorant wordy man interested in verbosity and
pretending to be a big shot!
> Best regards
>
> John
jrw
First, I asked the question twice, since you didn't answer the first
time of asking.
>> abreast of the latest scientific research.<<
>Your assumption is not necessarily empirically based... <
I will answer the posting frequencies in another post. This will
hopefully demonstrate the pernicious effect you are having here.
If you come to this newsgroup then I think it is correct to assume
that tinnitus is of some concern, and I would be truly amazed if
others are not keeping abreast of the condition, I think you are being
more than a little patronising towards others here.
We all know that your T has improved due to acupuncture and GB. Well
done. I have also told you several times that I have tried,
unsuccessfully, both treatments. Try to remember what other posters
have written in response to your missives. One more time, it didn't
work!!
I have consistently encouraged anyone to try every available
treatment, including acupuncture and GB. Please try to take this on
board for once.
Your message is almost entirely useless and here's why. You find this
group because you have a fairly sophisticated knowledge of the
internet. To dig out this newsgroup you will have tinnitus at quite
an uncomfortable level, if you have not already googlised the subject
and found a list of remedies then that would be truly amazing. You
will come across such treatments as GB and acupuncture. Please give
us some credit, most of us have tried them. I have yet to meet a
sufferer who has not. In the UK, audiology departments work hand in
glove with alternative treatment centers.
>Mind your fucking business how others conduct theirs... <
I am pretty sure you didn't learn this style of response from your
parents Fyfpoon. It is a pity that you have to resort to such
language here.
>WHO are you? Are you an authority on GB and acupuncture...< I am not, and do not pretend to be. Are you? If so please list your qualifications and the accredited Universities where you qualified please. I use data carried out by scientific establishments to make my point. I am what you might call a truth seeker.
>What makes you think the so-called 'controlled studies' done by some groups are that authoritative...<
So this is what it has come to... If scientists do not concur with
your views then they are 'groups', not universities or medical
research institutions, they are simply 'groups' with an axe to grind.
Do you begin to see why your posting style is so offensive to anyone
interested in the truth.
>I recognize the validty of this kind of studies but like any other kind of studies it has its limitations. Can you understand the difference?<
You might want to enlighten us with your critique of the double blind
system of testing drugs, and then explain why all drugs are tested in
this way despite your reservations. Do you not see how pompous you
are?
>Are you an expert on alternative medicines?<
No I am not, are you? If so please list your qualifications and where
you qualified please. I am positive that Murray Grossman would have
no trouble answering this question.
>You are a big-mouthed ignorant wordy man interested in verbosity and pretending to be a big shot! <
I am happy for other posters to make up their own minds to determine
whether you are projecting or not.
As always you have my,
Best regards
John
jrw
Here is the scientific evidence, just in case you have not seen it:
REVIEWERS' CONCLUSIONS: The limited evidence did not demonstrate that
Ginkgo biloba was effective for tinnitus which is a primary complaint.
There was no reliable evidence to address the question of Ginkgo
biloba for tinnitus associated with cerebral insufficiency.
No doubt you will pour scorn on the good folk at Royal Devon & Exeter
Hospital...
If you access to scientific data that supports your conclusions please
post it, thank you.
Best regards
John
fyf...@gmail.com
Never mind what 'other' posters do. Simply focus on what you do and
say.
As I said, keep tallking to Bluto. Two of you make a good pair.
fyf...@gmail.com
I tried it and it worked for me. That is enough evidence.
. Bluto
wrote:
>Why do some people have such a problem with this post? Yes, fyfpoon talks about
>GB a bit much...but, I think his point is valid. Why not at least try it,
>because it's so cheap and you have nothing to lose. Hell, if it helps 1 out of
>every 100 T sufferers I think it's worth it
Do you happen to be fyfpoons chinese boyscout friend or other admirer?
Have you tried GB or are you smart enough not to? The only gain of GB
is for its peddlers who prey on sick people, offering "cures" while
they line their pockets.
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Dan,
OCD controls fyfpoon. He can't write a sentence without GB in it. Its
all he thinks about.
. Bluto
wrote:
>Okay, you do have a point about the repetitive posts. Perhaps I don't read
>here often enough to object.
>
>And I like how you are civil and present your arguments in a coherent way. What
>I can't stand is when the ranting starts about fyfpoon's "crack pipe", "boyscout
>friends", and Janice being "Larry in pink undies". THAT is what I consider
>unoriginal. At least people should be creative and come up with some new insults :)
Janice(larry in yellow undies(Yes he changes them every 2 weeks)) and
his cohort fyf_GB_poon are themself their own worst insults.
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you done a survey fyfpoon?
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Fyfpoon,
>
>My question was to you only regarding the breakthroughs in gene
>therapy currently being tested. I assume most readers are keeping
>abreast of the latest scientific research. I posed the question
>because I wonder if you are really interested in the broader
>developments in the treatment of tinnitus, instead of the useless
>words you continue to write. We do not get newbies here, the
>subscription level is dropping, and you are the most frequent poster.
>I think that there is a causal relationship, as we have lost one
>member already this week saying it was your incessant posts about the
>same subject that has driven him to go else where.
fyfpoon only subscribes to ancient far eastern shamon medicine. All
others are false. Just ask him and he will tell you.
>
>Unlike you I provide links to interesting articles. I have no axe to
>grind, I am just happy to see more research in this area. You can
>criticise me for posting links if you like but I can assure you that
>if you happen to click on the URL's, the articles are far from
>repetitive.
You must have missed his chinese boyscout friends email address. Thats
just as good as any link.
>
>What possible triumphalism could I possibly have. I do not come here,
>week in and week out, telling all that my tinnitus has improved. It
>has not, for all I know it might be deteriorating.
>
>I am not asking for highly original posts from you, just the
>occasional change of subject.
He changes subjects frequently. The bad part is his only subjects are
GB and acupuncture. Take your choice for his next post.
>
>You are the dealer in useless words. As I have written before, GB and
>acupuncture have a limited success rate, some tests have shown, I
>think you will recall, that GB has done no better than the placebo
>effect. And your response to this... that the double blind system of
>drug testing is inappropriate. Useless words Fyfpoon.
Has anyone ever heard any words of use from fyfpoon? NOT!
>
>Some of the anecdotal evidence that you are so fond of quoting, well
>in all likelihood they probably have a temporary form of tinnitus.
>Most here have been living with their condition for a very long time.
Maybe fyfpoon has done a survey or polled some other chinese boyscout
friends of his.
>
>Best regards
>
>
>John
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
WOW!! I see fyfpoon has been using his GB filled bong again. Its
increasing his OCD and making him use naughty words. Its the only
time he grows some balls is after a crack session.
>
>> Best regards
>>
>> John
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Fyfpoon,
>
>First, I asked the question twice, since you didn't answer the first
>time of asking.
>
>>> abreast of the latest scientific research.<<
>>Your assumption is not necessarily empirically based... <
>
>I will answer the posting frequencies in another post. This will
>hopefully demonstrate the pernicious effect you are having here.
>
>If you come to this newsgroup then I think it is correct to assume
>that tinnitus is of some concern, and I would be truly amazed if
>others are not keeping abreast of the condition, I think you are being
>more than a little patronising towards others here.
>
>We all know that your T has improved due to acupuncture and GB. Well
>done. I have also told you several times that I have tried,
>unsuccessfully, both treatments. Try to remember what other posters
>have written in response to your missives. One more time, it didn't
>work!!
fyfpoons T only improves if he leaves his crack pipe alone for a
couple of days...of course thats impossible for him and is why he has
chronic T.
>
>I have consistently encouraged anyone to try every available
>treatment, including acupuncture and GB. Please try to take this on
>board for once.
>
>Your message is almost entirely useless and here's why. You find this
>group because you have a fairly sophisticated knowledge of the
>internet. To dig out this newsgroup you will have tinnitus at quite
>an uncomfortable level, if you have not already googlised the subject
>and found a list of remedies then that would be truly amazing. You
>will come across such treatments as GB and acupuncture. Please give
>us some credit, most of us have tried them. I have yet to meet a
>sufferer who has not. In the UK, audiology departments work hand in
>glove with alternative treatment centers.
>
>>Mind your fucking business how others conduct theirs... <
>
>I am pretty sure you didn't learn this style of response from your
>parents Fyfpoon. It is a pity that you have to resort to such
>language here.
As a matter of fact he DID learn it from them! Its called HOME
SCHOOLING.
>
>>WHO are you? Are you an authority on GB and acupuncture...< I am not, and do not pretend to be. Are you? If so please list your qualifications and the accredited Universities where you qualified please. I use data carried out by scientific establishments to make my point. I am what you might call a truth seeker.
>
>>What makes you think the so-called 'controlled studies' done by some groups are that authoritative...<
>
>So this is what it has come to... If scientists do not concur with
>your views then they are 'groups', not universities or medical
>research institutions, they are simply 'groups' with an axe to grind.
>Do you begin to see why your posting style is so offensive to anyone
>interested in the truth.
>
>>I recognize the validty of this kind of studies but like any other kind of studies it has its limitations. Can you understand the difference?<
>
>You might want to enlighten us with your critique of the double blind
>system of testing drugs, and then explain why all drugs are tested in
>this way despite your reservations. Do you not see how pompous you
>are?
>
>>Are you an expert on alternative medicines?<
>
>No I am not, are you? If so please list your qualifications and where
>you qualified please. I am positive that Murray Grossman would have
>no trouble answering this question.
>
>>You are a big-mouthed ignorant wordy man interested in verbosity and pretending to be a big shot! <
Thats better than being a lopsided anal hole like you fyfpoon.
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Not as good of a pair as you and your crack pipe.
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
HAHAHAHOHOHOHEHEHE Yeah right! Time for another bowl fyfpoon.
jrw
I wonder if you would do me the courtesy of answering some of the
questions that I posed to you. After all I answered all the questions
that you put to me.
>I tried it and it worked for me. That is enough evidence<
This might suffice as evidence for you, for the rest of us I am sure
it will meet with incredulity and contempt. Please get it into your
head, it has not worked for most of us here.
Help us all out here can you, how long did you have tinnitus, and how
sooner after did you start taking GB and for how long before it worked
for you. And how long a go that was... Really, your own personal
story might be a revelation for all of us here.
Best regards
John
Dan Brum
do you know he has Chinese boyscout friends anyway?) I've already agreed some
of his posts can be repetitive, annoying etc, when you read them over and over,
but if you're relatively new here, it's not so bad.
I'll admit there are lots of scam artists selling T relief pills that are a
complete waste of money. However, if you're going to try one of the alternative
remedies, GB is quite cheap and you can buy it at any drug store. As a first
step, it's worth a shot.
And I did try it, along with a few other supplements, which didn't help. (Even
though there was a period where I thought it made a difference, but that only
lasted about a week and then my T was back to normal). Did I waste some money,
yes, but not as much as when I eventually went to the ENT recommended by my
primary care doctor.
All the ENT did was run some hearing tests, and then told me there's basically
nothing that can be done, other than reducing intake of food "known" to
aggravate T, such as caffeine, alcohol etc. So I spent a couple of hundred
dollars to learn things I already knew!
Fortunately several months later my T managed to greatly decline in severity. I
did sharply reduce my caffeine intake for about a month, but that only had a
minimal effect. My T is still reduced, and I'm back to drinking almost as much
caffeine as before. So I doubt that did it. And I'd love to figure out if
there was something I did to change it, or if it just eased on it's own. (Maybe
it's the pink undies I started wearing -- just kidding.)
fyf...@gmail.com
> Hi Fyfpoon,
>
> I wonder if you would do me the courtesy of answering some of the
> questions that I posed to you. After all I answered all the questions
> that you put to me.
>
> >I tried it and it worked for me. That is enough evidence<
>
> This might suffice as evidence for you, for the rest of us I am sure
> it will meet with incredulity and contempt.
'Rest of us'??? How do you know? You do have a bad habit of speaking
on behalf of 'us' as opposed to 'me'.
Please get it into your
> head, it has not worked for most of us here.
>
How about a few of us? Is it worth mentioning it?
> Help us all out here can you, how long did you have tinnitus, and how
> sooner after did you start taking GB and for how long before it worked
> for you. And how long a go that was... Really, your own personal
> story might be a revelation for all of us here.
>
Well, since you have learned to speak like a gentleman, I would love
to share my experience with you.
As far as I can recall, I got T in 2003 in the midst of my blood
pressure going out of control. Looking back in retrospective, all I
needed was a combination of 2 kinds of pills but most doctors I went
to visit were stupid enough not to have known that. Mind you, these
are fancy doctors at fancy hospitals, not some hillbilly doctors.
That said, my T started with a low sound but it came with some nerve
discomfort in my head. I explained this to this group and to several
neurologists I visited and none of them knew anything and some called
it 'psychological'.
At any rate, my T went into a full blown stage and it was maddening.
But what was even harder to bear was the discomfort in the head. I
came to this ng and the argument was back and forth on whether GB was
effective. Each side cited 'studies'. I was under the influence of
those 'controlled studies' cited around by some micky mouse high-tech
american doctors and 'scientists' and thus i refrained from trying GB.
Later on, i went to visit a British doctor in HK and he recommended me
to try GB. I felt the impact on about the second day. The doctor
told me that my T might have something to do with the nerve in the
head but he was not sure what that was. All he was able to do for me
was that improving the blood circulation of the head might help and Gb
was used for exactly that purpose.
GB moved my T from a 'brain ring' (ringing at the centre of the head)
into a 'drum ring'(ringing on the ear drum), which further supported
the prognostication of my Cambridge doctor in Hong Kong.
So I had to put on GB just to release the symptoms but my T was not
cured! In the year 2005 i was in Vancouver, i went to a massage
parlor. It was one organized by a few mainland Chinese herb doctors.
I had not realized there was acupuncture operation in that clinic. I
had thought it was for muscle relaxation. After I had told the lady
doctor I was suffering from T, she gave me an acu-treatment. TWO
visits released 90% of my nerve discomfort but the sound was still
there. The sound was progressively reduced in the subsequent
development. This is why I have so much confidence in recommending
these two treatments to any T patient whose cause of T might have come
from the nerves in the head.
For your information, prior to visiting alternative doctors, i had
visited at least 10 fancy western doctors. The only good thing was GB
recommended by that HK doctor who graduated from Cambridge. Most of
the rest were completely useless...yes...USELESS.
Now does this satisfy you? GB may not work for you, especially if
yours is an OLD T. But I would still take GB if mine were an OLD T
and I would put myself on GB for at least a month before deciding
either to continue or to stop. Most people are very impatient. They
put on GB for a few days and drop it because they don't feel anything
during this time period.
> Best regards
>
> John
jrw
Let me help you refresh your memory: Your first post to this
newsgroup was Nov 30, 2003..
I started experiencing tinnitus about two months ago. It was getting
rather annoying. I have been under the suspicion that it is the
nifedipine used for my high blood pressure that is responsible for its
occurrence. Tinnitus took place at the same time when I moved up my
daily intake of nifedipine from 10 to 20 mg. I suspected it and did
not confirm it. About 2 weeks ago when I moved it up to 30 mg, my
tinnitus was getting unbearable! Now I am reasonably convinced this
is the cause and have moved it down to 20 mg daily and will gradually
switch to another kind of high bp medicine.
At any rate, I went to see a herbalist here in China. He pointed out
it was the imbalance of yin and yan energy in my kidney that is doing
it to me. The explanation is rather abstract even to a native Chinese
like myself. Perhaps nifedipine does hurt some people's kidneys or
some kidneys are more susceptible to nifedipine and other medications.
After drinking the herb tea each day, my tinnitus goes down
immensely! The trouble with herb tea is you have to bring home a
large bag of herb leafs and have them boiled to make a thick soup. I
believe there are synthetic herb medication or pills but don't know
what they are or if they are as powerful as herb tea. The herb
recipee for tinnitus 'could be' very simple or the common knowledge of
a herbalist but I would urge anyone who wants to try out a herbalist
to tell the herbalist whether or not you have high blood pressure,
because some herb recipees contain herbs that have the impact of
viagara, which raises the blood pressure, while others tend to lower
your blood pressure.
The best place to find a good herbalist doctor is in a state hospital
in China, preferrably Peking.
Goo luck to you all!
_______________________________________________________
Rather than GB, do you think it might have been an adverse reaction to
the drug nifedipine. Have you sought specialist advice on the
subject? You have not mentioned GB here at all. What happened, did
you get a job at a wholesale supplier?
Have you noticed the decline in the number of postings since then? I
will be happy to provide you with the numbers. What is more
remarkable is that you have been pushing the same line close to five
years. Speaking for myself I find your posts excruciatingly dull.
For you it must be close to torture, writing the same old posts
continuously. I have an idea. Why not post just once a month, any
newbie can then get the message.
Best regards
John
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
You never had T in the first place fool!
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Fyfpoon,
You can't refresh a burnt out memory.
. Bluto
wrote:
>Oh please! I am not Chinese, a boyscout, or other friend of fyfpoon. (And how
>do you know he has Chinese boyscout friends anyway?) I've already agreed some
>of his posts can be repetitive, annoying etc, when you read them over and over,
>but if you're relatively new here, it's not so bad.
He boasts them as his evidence that GB cures...haha
>
>I'll admit there are lots of scam artists selling T relief pills that are a
>complete waste of money. However, if you're going to try one of the alternative
>remedies, GB is quite cheap and you can buy it at any drug store. As a first
>step, it's worth a shot.
>
>And I did try it, along with a few other supplements, which didn't help. (Even
>though there was a period where I thought it made a difference, but that only
>lasted about a week and then my T was back to normal). Did I waste some money,
>yes, but not as much as when I eventually went to the ENT recommended by my
>primary care doctor.
haha...You're a scammers target...putting money into their pockets.
Too bad you're a sloooooooooooow learner. Why not drop another $35
bux to Murray and his CURE ALL? He'd be glad to accept it...but wait,
it might take 6 or more months to work so multipy that $35 by 6.
>
>All the ENT did was run some hearing tests, and then told me there's basically
>nothing that can be done, other than reducing intake of food "known" to
>aggravate T, such as caffeine, alcohol etc. So I spent a couple of hundred
>dollars to learn things I already knew!
Listen to your ENT, not some GB fool in NG.
>
>Fortunately several months later my T managed to greatly decline in severity. I
>did sharply reduce my caffeine intake for about a month, but that only had a
>minimal effect. My T is still reduced, and I'm back to drinking almost as much
>caffeine as before. So I doubt that did it. And I'd love to figure out if
>there was something I did to change it, or if it just eased on it's own. (Maybe
>it's the pink undies I started wearing -- just kidding.)
I'm sure Janice(ah, Larry at times) can set you up with his undies
suppliers. He might even through in a bottle of manganase with your
first purchase.
fyf...@gmail.com
> On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:33:26 -0400, Dan Brum <danb...@g.no.spam.mail>
I was once a foreign student in the US. One of the things that
impressed me the most is that the american people, regardless of
their social upbringing and thus 'class barriers', do make an effort
to talk to each other. In other more traditional societies such as
the British one, you would have been ignored and delegated back to the
group of the same social echelon.
fyf...@gmail.com
No. I am still taking it.
Have you sought specialist advice on the
> subject?
Yes, but they did not know and all they asked me to do was to try a
different med.
> You have not mentioned GB here at all.
I was under the influence of the controlled studies cited around and
did not try.
> What happened, did
> you get a job at a wholesale supplier?
What a cheap blow you have delivered? I am a financial consultant
and independently wealthy. I don't need to push any drug, you big
mouth pig? What do I get from recommending you to try GB?
You are not buying from me. Big-mouth pigs open up their mouths as
if they have a lot to say. I am amazed that so many years after
the americans defeated the british in the great war of independence,
some like yourself still lean on speaking english properly in order to
get
things done.
> Have you noticed the decline in the number of postings since then? I
> will be happy to provide you with the numbers.
Is the reason causual or correlational?
> What is more
> remarkable is that you have been pushing the same line close to five
> years.
If something is true, why not push it? No one is pointing at gun at
you to read anything. Look at your friend Bluto. He is free to push
Larry tight.
> Speaking for myself I find your posts excruciatingly dull.
And i have found yours equally so. Notwithstanding our feelings, our
posts will go on, because none of us is that important---unless you
think you are very important in this ng.
> For you it must be close to torture, writing the same old posts
> continuously.
No...not at all. I actually enjoy it as much as you do yours. So
mind your business and let others do theirs. Is it too difficult for
you to do?
> I have an idea. Why not post just once a month, any
> newbie can then get the message.
I have an idea for you too. Why not just disappear for a change,
together with your friend Bluto?
I don't care what the newbies will do, as they are free to do what
they
want, but not what I want them to do. You seem to have forgotten this
basic fact of life and act like one of those British assholes in Hong
Kong who believe they can get things done simply by way of speaking
english properly.
========================
> Best regards
>
> John
fyf...@gmail.com
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 08:26:27 -0700 (PDT), jrw <jrwilm...@gmail.com>
>
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Yes, keep talking to your good friend jrw.
jrw
Putting aside your racism 'British assholes in Hong Kong' and your
insults, 'you big mouth pig', by your definition you would be in the
lower echelon of any society. I am not sure your posts are
consistent, I would suggest there is a air of duplicity about what you
write. You claim to be independently wealthy, well, independent from
having to work? Or independent from a sideline of selling GB? Either
way I doubt this claim, since you travel to work by bus... (Something
you admitted here not too long ago). I do not know anyone who is
independently wealthy who travels by bus to work.
In your first post you said you were cured of tinnitus, but there is
no mention of GB or of acupuncture. Either you were cured by the herb
tea or you were not... Please tell us the truth here.
I think Bluto has a good point, it seems to me you had a temporary
form of the ailment, quite common, especially if you are taking
drugs. Your tinnitus might have cleared up naturally. Keep taking GB
by all means, it is good for high blood pressure, but I am pretty sure
you do not belong here, you are neither a sufferer or a practitioner,
worse, I think your credibility is somewhat tarnished.
Best regards
John
fyf...@gmail.com
> Hi Fyfpoon,
>
> Putting aside your racism 'British assholes in Hong Kong' and your
> insults, 'you big mouth pig', by your definition you would be in the
> lower echelon of any society.
I do not have a definition by which anyone who labels you as a British
asshole-like in HK belongs to the lower echelon of any society. You
are an asshole the like of whom are found in my experience in HK
amongst the British population who have a tendency of using 'other'
people... 'we'...'us'.. instead of expressing their own opinions as
free
individuals like the americans.
I am not sure your posts are
> consistent, I would suggest there is a air of duplicity about what you
> write.
Words...words...empty words...and you speak like the British assholes
in HK.
You claim to be independently wealthy, well, independent from
> having to work? Or independent from a sideline of selling GB? Either
> way I doubt this claim, since you travel to work by bus... (Something
> you admitted here not too long ago). I do not know anyone who is
> independently wealthy who travels by bus to work.
>
How wealthy I am and the reference with which my wealth is measure is
beyond your query. All I need to say is I don't need to sell GB to
make a living?
Do you need to sell cell research information to make a living,
stupid?
> In your first post you said you were cured of tinnitus, but there is
> no mention of GB or of acupuncture. Either you were cured by the herb
> tea or you were not... Please tell us the truth here.
USE 'ME" instead of 'us', you bloody fool, as you are speaking on your
own behalf but are not a leader or a moderator in this ng. And you are
not that 'academic' as you pretend to be.
Just read what you wish to read or ignore. It is as simple as that
because you are not a professional messiah in this group. The more
you open up the more you resemble the british assholes in Hong Kong.
>
> I think Bluto has a good point,
What is good by your standard does not necessarily consititue a
benchmark for truth.
>it seems to me you had a temporary
> form of the ailment, quite common, especially if you are taking
> drugs.
It seems to me you have no T problems but are here to promote cell
research information for a pharmaceutical company.
Your tinnitus might have cleared up naturally. Keep taking GB
> by all means, it is good for high blood pressure, but I am pretty sure
> you do not belong here, you are neither a sufferer or a practitioner,
> worse, I think your credibility is somewhat tarnished.
>
I think you have NO credibility at all, by way of your indiscriminate
show
of empty words...
Go out and push for cell research information marketing.
==============================
> Best regards
>
> John
jrw
I am disappointed by your response. I think the insults are
unfortunate, but I am happy to ignore those since I feel you are
upset. All the same you might do me the courtesy by addressing a few
points.
In your very first post you claimed to have been cured of tinnitus,
yet you do not once mention GB or acupuncture. Please explain just
for my benefit how you were cured initially by herbal tea, and yet for
the past few years you seem to have credited GB with this happy
circumstance. In my view it strains credibility. All I am doing is
presenting you with your statements to this group.
I do think, like it or not, that Bluto has more than a valid point
when he writes that you might have only a temporary form of the
condition. This is quite common, especially as a reaction to drug
treatment. You write convincingly about your experience in your
initial post, since you were on nifedipine to control your blood
pressure. (I hope this was not hypertension brought about by anger).
Count your blessings, you would not want to suffer from the condition
on a permanent basis.
Since this is a forum for sufferers or practitioners, and you are
neither, by your own admission, one wonders why you post here. I
think it is quite strange. My view is that it is inappropriate, but I
am sure you will dismiss this. Try using logic this time rather than
your meaningless insults, this type of defense only damages your
credibility even more.
I have no interest in cell research whatsoever. As it stands I think
that gene therapy is the most promising area of research for those
that genuinely suffer from the tinnitus. I am not getting my hopes
up.
Best regards
John
fyf...@gmail.com
> Hi Fyfpoon,
>
> I am disappointed by your response. I think the insults are
> unfortunate,
The insults as you put them are a reaction to the insults you
delivered to your interlocutor. That you have not used coarse
language or the 7- lettered does not mean you don't insult. To pain
the other person as a GB retail sales pusher is one of the examples.
but I am happy to ignore those since I feel you are
> upset. All the same you might do me the courtesy by addressing a few
> points.
>
> In your very first post you claimed to have been cured of tinnitus,
> yet you do not once mention GB or acupuncture.
Not cured but it has gone down by more than 80% and comes only
intermittently. I did mentioned these 2 things many times in my
previous posts years back.
Please explain just
> for my benefit how you were cured initially by herbal tea,
Herbal tea stopped the noise for a few days but I did not persist. I
let go the treatment and then later on when i went back to it, it did
not work any more.
>and yet for
> the past few years you seem to have credited GB with this happy
> circumstance.
In terms of softening the T sound, yes...
> In my view it strains credibility. All I am doing is
> presenting you with your statements to this group.
Start speaking on your own behalf...OK?
>
> I do think, like it or not, that Bluto has more than a valid point
> when he writes that you might have only a temporary form of the
> condition. This is quite common, especially as a reaction to drug
> treatment.
For a while I thought that my direutics was responsible and I
discontinued it. The cessation did bring about the release of T but
without the use of direutics, the nerve discomfort came. I used to
blame on the inner ear fluid until I got released of my nerve
discomfort
by acupuncture. That acupuncturist said i was suffering from a
pinched nerve.
>You write convincingly about your experience in your
> initial post, since you were on nifedipine to control your blood
> pressure. (I hope this was not hypertension brought about by anger).
> Count your blessings, you would not want to suffer from the condition
> on a permanent basis.
>
Stop doctoring me as if you were a doctor and a moralist one.
> Since this is a forum for sufferers or practitioners, and you are
> neither,
How the fuck do you know? You are asking insult for yourself and you
deserve it.
No more reply to your asshole content which is filled with insults.
Now, go and get lost!
=====================================
snipped and flushed into the toilet ...
Dan Brum
be true!
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You can't refresh a burnt out memory.- ?????????????? -
>>
>> - ?????????????? -
>
>Yes, keep talking to your good friend jrw.
Have you done a survey? haha
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah right...in your mind burnt out mind maybe.
. Bluto
wrote:
>Really, free manganese AND a supplier of undies? That sounds almost too good to
>be true!
Yes!! They're made in Hong Kong...by guess who? Yes, Miss fyfpoon.
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Fyfpoon,
Yes, fyfpoon is certainly a racist. His is not wealthy, he is a leech
and crack head loitering in Hong Kong cuz its the only place that will
accept him. You got it jrw, he never had T but gets his little
peanutz off by spewing GB, GB, GB cured his T. Can't cure what you
never had Einstein!
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Go smoke yourself a few bowels fyfpoon and cool off matie! Your name
calling of British folks, does that include the British doctor you
visited in HK? People please note how fyfpoons OCD is bringing on his
racist remarks....actually he's just jealous cuz he's stuck in HK.
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Fyfpoon,
His drug treatment is CRACK. It brings on his outbursts and spewing
of nonsense and racist remarks. I am making a survey of his actions
for reference and documentation of OCD Crack heads. He is a good
study subject. We learn more and more about him and the effects of
crack on the brain each day.
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Diuretics? You need laxatives not diuretics fool! Most of your so
called medical problems are resultant of your mind altering drug
habits. Get yourself a box of laxatives, spend a few days in the loo
cleaning the waste outta ya...and you're certainly full of it.
I like your stupid answers to JRW's questions. They help me greatly
in the survey I am conducting.
jrw
On Dec 21 2003, you made the following post:
I developed T about a couple of months ago. It started with ringing
on my left ear and then it went all over the head. I went to several
ear specialists and general physicians with no results and the only
release I got from them is a sleeping pill.
Lately, my friend physician asked me to go for a BRAIN BLOOD FLOW
CHART done. He discovered that there *seems* to be In-sufficient
'oxygen supply' on the left side of my brain, which was where the
ringing started.
Currently with the intake of 10 mg of FLUNARIZINE HYDROCHLORIDE, the
ringing seems to have been immensely reduced.
In order to cure/treat your T, it *helps* to know what the CAUSE is.
Hang tough!
FP
_______________________________________________________________
Again you have not mentioned the benefits of GB, and though
acupuncture has been recommended to you, you have not yet gone and out
and taken advantage of this fantastic treatment.
There are quite a few disturbing things about your post in those days
I have to say.
Best regards
John
fyf...@gmail.com
John,
Are you sincerely interested in my experiences or in demonstrating
that you are capable of writing proper English?
FLUNARIZINE HYDROCHLORIDE was prescribed by my doc and was meant to
improve blood circulation in the head...like GB. But at that time the
doc did not prescribe GB. This doc is not the doc that recommended me
GB.
Throughout my initial stage, I was searching in the dark. Something I
found
something which i thought was able to do the job and then it failed
again.
Life was like a tormenting hell to me.
My T was composed of 2 parts:
(1)T sound
(2)nerve discomfort.
Both FLUNARIZINE HYDROCHLORIDE and GB softened the T sound but did not
reduce (2), albeit GB did have the effect of moving the ring from the
centre of the head into the drum. It was finally acupuncture that
almost entirely eliminated (2).
I would love to share my experience with you if you simply stop all
that
british asshole behavior.
jrw
Have you tried it? I have. We should conduct a poll, and ask all the
lurkers if they wouldn't mind answering. In the UK, Boots is by far
the largest pharmacist chain, they sell it under their own label.
I would urge anyone to try it. But do not get your hopes up. In the
first year or two, sufferers are desperate to find a 'cure' and do
tend to jump from one remedy to the next, and a few get lucky.
Best regards
John
jrw
Forgive the familiarity but after reading several hundred of your
posts I think I have earned the right to alter the salutation. There
is no need to share your experience with me, since there is an
abundant archive of your tinnitus experience from 2003 onwards.
Best regards
John
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Fyfpoon,
He spews so many bloody different stories it gets him even confused! I
do agree he has low O2 supply to his brain...on BOTH sides.
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quit bloody picking on the British people Mate! No one cares to hear
about you insane experiences except for your own entertainment.
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Dan,
The lucky ones didn't have T. There is no cure of T. Man up and
accept it, don't spend years and money on scammers with all their
cures.
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Francis,
Francis???........Oh fyfpoon..He uses a female name like that bloke
Janice does too eh...ahhhhhhhhh... And although males can be named
francis too I bloody know fyfpoons Francis is of the female
gender(like his cohort Janice)
L.T.
Alas, 'john' cahnt stop ANY of that, and won't;
It's "behavior", as you've described, however, would be exactly as it
is - regardless of nationality.
In fairness,
LT
-familiar with said 'a-perture' from elsewhere, where it is a
compulsive stalker, both egregious, and comically stupid - but you
already knew that.
>
> - Show quoted text -
L.T.
Better than deserved.
It is noticed, and how could it not be? - that jrwilmudd's Modus
Operandi is no different here than at "RMO", which thx to this clown
and the thugs to whom it serves as their gushing sycophant, is rarely
about the group's stated subject anymore.
L.T.
>
> - Show quoted text -
Beautifully said, really beautifully; although you've been far more
polite than this goading git, 'jrw', could possibly deserve, - IMHO,
that is.
I shall look in on this group, as and when it pleases me to - though
I'm fortunate and thankful, in not being afflicted with tinnitus.
Best wishes to the non-wilmudd's here, who haven't been so lucky.
LT
fyf...@gmail.com
Good! The experiences are there to share with anyone who is
interested. There is no need to agree or disagree to. When i wrote
out the experiences, I did it in accordance with how I felt but not
according to how people like yourself would have liked to perceive.
fyf...@gmail.com
>
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>
> - 显示引用的文字 -
Not all British are assholes. I was equating jrw to the assholes in
Hk who happen to be British.
This type of assholes have one particular feature in common: they
think they can get things done simply by way of speaking English
properly and do so even with empty words. The assholes of other
ethnic groups in HK don't
have this peculiar feature.
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
No one cares about your bloody stupid experience's except to see what
a fool you make of yourself.
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > - Show quoted text -- ?????????????? -
>>
>> - ?????????????? -- ?????????????? -
>>
>> - ?????????????? -
>
>Not all British are assholes. I was equating jrw to the assholes in
>Hk who happen to be British.
Now you're trying to change your song and dance fool.
>
>This type of assholes have one particular feature in common: they
>think they can get things done simply by way of speaking English
>properly and do so even with empty words. The assholes of other
>ethnic groups in HK don't
>have this peculiar feature.
Have you done a survey?
Janice
"Wei Wu Wei" <wei.wu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f3af8164-7479-47a7...@73g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 2, 10:55 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I would suggest any newbie who has lately got T should start with GB
>> for the simple reason that this method is SIMPLE and INEXPENSIVE, and
>> has little side-effect if taken properly. A lot of healthy people
>> take GB as a dietary supplement.
>>
>> If, after putting yourself on GB for two weeks or so under the
>> guidance of an experienced pharmacist, you still don't feel it does
>> anything for you, you can stop it and help yourself with all sorts of
>> expensive and high-tech gadgets at deluxe ENT clinics. On the other
>> hand, it GB does help you, you then have the option of either staying
>> on GB or go ahead to visit various expensive ENT clinics and see if
>> you can improve on your T with the high-tech/expensive methods.
>
> Sorry, but I have been forced to leave this group because of this BS.
> Good luck to all fellow T sufferers. I will seek my collaboration
> elsewhere.
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Janice
complaining about others.
"jrw" <jrwi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0e03cdf5-808f-4281...@l43g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Dan,
>
> I am happy to read that your tinnitus has greatly reduced in its
> severity. I have no problem with Fyfpoon posting here. What I do
> find objectionable is the constant repetition coupled with his
> incessant triumphalism. Is it too much to ask for one original post a
> year?
>
> Best regards
>
>
> John
L.T.
Of course not; alas those who are create a negative image for the
rest.
>I was equating jrw to the assholes in
> Hk who happen to be British.
No doubt 'jrw' is their inferior, whatever their degree of assholity,
as it were.
> This type of assholes have one particular feature in common: they
> think they can get things done simply by way of speaking English
> properly
'jrw' can't even meet *that* standard; any 'jrw'-emission of ten words
will have at least 75 errors. This has been proven time and again, on
various ng's.
>and do so even with empty words.
Well, I'll concede that empty words are a constant 'jrw' feature,
coming as they do, from an emptier head.
The assholes of other
> ethnic groups in HK don't
> have this peculiar feature.- Hide quoted text -
Perhaps 'jrw' could get a mask and better-fitting toupe, and pretend
to be one of those other, better sorts of asshole?
I suggest this only out of concern for 'jrw's' further self-
embarrassments.
L.T.
> Some think you should look in the mirror and see exactly what you have been
> complaining about others.
Brava, Janice! An thoroughly accurate observation, borne out by
'jrw's' proudly-displayed stupidities and hypocrisies on other groups,
as well.
For 'jrw' is a troll, in constant search of opportunities to self-
embarrass - and does it successfully, one must admit.
L Credit Where Due T
>
> "jrw" <jrwilm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0e03cdf5-808f-4281...@l43g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi Dan,
>
> > I am happy blah blah
How thrilling.
jrw
Please free to comment here. Every time you post here I will cut and
paste one of your posts from RMO here. So they can see that even thou
you do not suffer from tinnitus they can judge you for a man who, let
me be polite about this, has mental health problems.
Best regards
John
jrw
Rather than taint this group with your disgusting posts, remember they
don't know you here. Just explain how many times you have been banned
by google groups. I think it is now six times. I look forward to
your answer.
Best regards
John
fyf...@gmail.com
> Hi Leonard,
>
> Rather than taint this group with your disgusting posts,
What is disgusting to you is pleasurable to others.
>remember they
> don't know you here.
Who are you to speak on *their* behalf? You do have a bad habit of
speaking collectively, acting like a group leader or moderator while
in reality you are simply one of many.
fyf...@gmail.com
> Hi Leonard,
>
> Please free to comment here. Every time you post here I will cut and
> paste one of your posts from RMO here. So they can see that even thou
> you do not suffer from tinnitus they can judge you for a man who,
Why is it so hard for you to get rid of this asshole habit of speaking
on behalf of others? Speaking on your own behalf only, you insecure
man!
fyf...@gmail.com
If you simply stop asking questions and stop reading my posts, I would
not be sharing experience with you. No one is pointing a gun at your
head to read what others have to say. You do have a way of acting
important by way of speaking English properly. Don't you?
. Bluto
<Leonar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sep 7, 11:26 pm, "Janice" <Janice@hurtmail..com> wrote:
>
>> Some think you should look in the mirror and see exactly what you have been
>> complaining about others.
>
>Brava, Janice! An thoroughly accurate observation, borne out by
>'jrw's' proudly-displayed stupidities and hypocrisies on other groups,
>as well.
Wow, seems that old LT(leonard) is a Janice admirer...What color
panties do you wear LT? Do you exchange with larry, i mean janice?
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Leonard,
Thats why he has to get in Janice and fyfpoons clique. They're the
only perverts who will accept LT.
. Bluto
Go back into the closet LT. With your types(in tights)
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 22:06:58 -0700 (PDT), "L.T."
<Leonar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sep 7, 9:16 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9??7??, ????11??19??, "L.T." <LeonardT2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sep 6, 2:03 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > - Show quoted text -- ?????????????? -
>>
>> > - ?????????????? -- ?????????????? -
>>
>> > - ?????????????? -
. Bluto
wrote:
>Hi Leonard,
Besides mental problems he also has gender problems..Like is mates
fyfoolpoon and janice
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 9??8??, ????5??26??, jrw <jrwilm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Leonard,
>>
>> Please free to comment here. Every time you post here I will cut and
>> paste one of your posts from RMO here. So they can see that even thou
>> you do not suffer from tinnitus they can judge you for a man who,
>
>Why is it so hard for you to get rid of this asshole habit of speaking
>on behalf of others? Speaking on your own behalf only, you insecure
>man!
>
Put the pipe down fyfpoon. Thats the only time you come is after your
crack smoking escapades. Who do you speak on behalf of other that GB.
. Bluto
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
My my, that bloody OCD is kicking in fyfpoon. Better get that
intervention soon mate!
jrw
Unless you have an overwhelming interest in fecal matter, then you
will probably find Leonard's posts horrific, as does the rest of RMO.
In fact a group of RMO members set up a moderated group just to be rid
of him. He has been banned at least six times, from google groups,
for obscene postings. Hey, if you want to see the best of Leonard I
will send them to your email address, they are so depraved I would
hesitate to post them here. He is paranoid and delusional, if you
point this out to him he will stalk you from one news group to the
next. The single biggest problem is trying exactly to find out what
point he is trying to put across. He writes in a very peculiar
language, dubbed Tillmanese. It really is the writings of a rabid
angry individual.
I have, of course, never been banned by google groups, nor have I been
ejected from a moderated group.
Leonard is a pest. He represents a third of all posts at RMO. He is
the subject of countless entreaties to leave the group. Others have
threated to call the police because of his threats. I can provide the
proof if need be, just give me the word, and it will be a pleasure to
backup everything I say. I am sure that many from RMO would be more
than happy to give testimony to what I written here, or I can provide
links to his posts, and those that have asked him to leave. I can
provide links to prove that he has been banned on several occasions.
If you are a sensitive soul then I would not go anywhere near the
man. He can be relentless in his need for vengeance. How ever mild
the slight against him, it can trigger a whirlwind of abuse. So tread
carefully, because you tread on his dreams... ;-)
Best regards
John
jrw
Insults aimed at LT can lead to a torrent of abuse. I am sure you can
look after yourself, but it has that uncanny ability to completely
ruin a newsgroup. He makes Francis seem the paragon of virtue.
Best regards
John
L.T.
reply to 'jrw', The Twit Who Would Be King':
> Who are you to speak on *their* behalf? You do have a bad habit of
> speaking collectively, acting like a group leader or moderator while
> in reality you are simply one of many.
Ah, I knew that this fool would, in all likelihood, carry on with its
same delusional Modus Operandi, whatever the group, and likewise,
whatever the subject. As we see, I was correct.
LT
L.T.
> Why is it so hard for you to get rid of this asshole habit of speaking
> on behalf of others?
Could it be due to the fact that 'jrw' IS an asshole? Just
wondering....
> Speaking on your own behalf only, you insecure
> man!
Insecure, yes, but not as to stupidity, since 'jrw' knows full well
its supremacy in that area, and that area alone.
L. Credit Where Due T.
L.T.
surely means only one thing:
Willmudd is a 'ringer' for 'Olive Oyl'(qv.), of cartoon fame!
But then, 'jrw' is no less a cartoon character in its own right, as
other here have also observed.
L. Credit Where Due T., adhering to principle.