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NoBody

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Apr 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/28/99
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Claims Tinnitus is a form of TMS.

I was watching 20/20 show on TV the other week and a I caught John
Stossel doing a report on a Dr. John E. Sarno.
His ideas are based on 24yrs of successfully treating an emotionally
induced physical disorder known as "Tension Myositis Syndrome"
(TMS) He states that our repressed anger in the unconscious in causing
our physical pain. and the the mind chooses to mask emotional turmoil
with physical pain, He mentions Tinnitus in his book and calls it a
from of TMS. John Stossel asked if he can randomly call some of his
patients and Dr.Sarno agreed, He called 20 people at random from his
records and all said they were helped.
Now I don't know if this will help Tinnitus and hyperacusis, but I am
reading the book and it seems like it would be a good try, since as we
know..TRT therapy does not address anything to our physical nature of
our ears.
I posted a review from Amazon.com explaining a bit more on his
approach. and the link to people who have read his book and most claim
to have been helped.
As a T & H sufferer believe me I have no great expectations on
anything these days, but I thought i would give some things a try as
it might help T & H. I am not in anyway associated with this book or
Amazon.com
I am no troll as you seen me here in this group for a while now.
Thanks.
Thank you


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0446520764/o/qid=925338264/sr=2-1/002-4924126-4344004


Review:
Amazon.com
Dr. John Sarno caused quite a ruckus back in 1990 when he suggested
that back pain is all in the head. In his bestselling book, Healing
Back Pain: The Mind-Body Connection, he claimed that backaches,
slipped discs, headaches, and other chronic pains are due to
suppressed anger, and that once the cause of the anger is addressed,
the pain will vanish. Relieved Amazon.com readers call this book
"liberating" and say "it sounds too good to be true, but it is true."
Sarno has returned with The Mindbody Prescription, in which he
explains how emotions including guilt, anxiety, depression, and low
self-esteem can stimulate the brain to manufacture physical symptoms
including fibromyalgia, repetitive strain injuries, migraine
headaches, hay fever, colitis, ulcers, and even acne. If these
psychosomatic problems all sound a little Freudian, what with the
repression of emotions in the unconscious, it's because Sarno
unapologetically borrows from Freud for the basis of his theory and
cites childhood trauma as a major source of emotional problems. He
also says that his program is a "talking cure" of sorts, since
patients must be convinced their pain is rooted in their emotions
before healing can begin.
The book reads a bit like psychology text, with Sarno quoting from
psychoanalytic theorists including Heinz Kohut and Graeme Taylor and
the DSM-IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders,
Fourth Edition). Sarno walks through the neurophysiology of mindbody
disorders, lists the symptoms of dozens of disorders that he believes
are emotion-based, and offers a basic program for overcoming
psychosomatic pain and illness. His recovery plan includes meditation
and sometimes psychotherapy, including behavior modification, and
stopping any medication or physical therapy. While Sarno's ideas seem
radical, they were commonly implemented earlier in the 20th century,
when psychoanalysis was at its peak of popularity, and they promise to
become more accepted in our current era of alternative medical
therapies and anger management. --Erica Jorgensen


Krystyna

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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What is the title of this book, please.
Krystyna

Krystyna

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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Sorry, When I ased for the title, I haven't read the whole story yet. K

NoBody

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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On 29 Apr 1999 01:18:54 GMT, krys...@aol.com (Krystyna) wrote:

>What is the title of this book, please.
>Krystyna

"The MindBody Prescription"

Oregon7

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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>ince as we
>know..TRT therapy does not address anything to our physical nature of our
ears....

I really like the info about this new treatment, but I did need to add in here
that it is thought that the sound therapy aspect of TRT does address and shift
the functioning of the brain cells and nerves. Of course, remember my frequent
statement of how ignorant we still are about the mechanisms, etc. etc. like
barbarians groping in the dark, I usually say...

While we are on new treatments, a pt. came in and reported that some sort of
eye movement therapy was really helpful for her. Some kind of treatment with
eye exercises.....has anyone heard of this?


Marsha Johnson, M.S., CCC-A
Clinic Director/Audiologist
Oregon Tinnitus & Hyperacusis Treatment Center
(503) 296-7870
www.tinnitus-audiology.com

JB2178

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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>While we are on new treatments, a pt. came in and reported that some sort of
>eye movement therapy was really helpful for her. Some kind of treatment with
>eye exercises.....has anyone heard of this?
......................

Going back a few years there was a television show about relieveing anxiety
symptoms from people by having them move their eyes back and forth in a pattern
similar to that of watching a pendulum swing.

Seemed to be and exercise that helped them relieve tension and fend off
depression, but I dont know much else.

jean

NoBody

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Apr 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/30/99
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On 29 Apr 1999 01:21:24 GMT, krys...@aol.com (Krystyna) wrote:

>Sorry, When I ased for the title, I haven't read the whole story yet. K


What?


ENTconsult

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May 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/2/99
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This sounds like what I wrote about in the 70's.
Biofeedback - muscle EMG - helps tinnitus by relaxing the muscles so that you
don't have anxiety reinforcing the problem. The less anxiety, the less the T
bothers you.
However it is the physical muscle relaxation that does it, without changing the
psycodynamics. Now we do this with mirror biofeedback.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com

NoBody

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May 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/2/99
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another Plug

Oregon7

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May 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/3/99
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Dr. Grossan: I have a pt. who has tinnitus as the result of a severe
explosion. He notices that when he moves his eyes, when open, he feels little
electric shock sensations and clicks in his ears and head.

When he closes his eyes and moves them, he does not feel anything.

Do you have any thoughts on what this could be?

I appreciate your input.

I am posting it here in case some one else has this, too.

Thanks.

ENTconsult

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May 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/3/99
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I can understand why Nagler and other physicians have left this group. Here I
am with 30 + years of experience, several tinnitus articles, advising a mirror
technique of biofeedback that my patients have used successfully and "nobody"
calls it a plug? I am not selling a book. I am not selling anything. to use my
method all you need is a mirror.
I suppose some minds are unable to comprehend the concept of people trying to
be helpful; that type of mind contributes the least to a group and to society.

JB2178

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May 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/3/99
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Murray,

There is no way to satisfy all the people on this newgroup.

Some of these people wont be happy even if their tinnitus gets cured!

Please dont let this discourage you from offering your helpful advice to the
majority of people here who really appreciate it.

jean

Bill

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May 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/3/99
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Not only was it not a "plug", Murray, but it has been a while since you
posted the details of this simple, useful, free technique. There are a lot
of newbies around now.... might be a good time.

Bill

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wayne dudenas

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May 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/5/99
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I agree... the people that should of stayed, LEFT and the people that should
of left, STAYED !!!!!!!!
Sad but true.
Dar>>>


Treble Clef

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May 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/6/99
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ay, what about me, or you for that matter?
:)

On Wed, 5 May 1999 23:45:08 -0400, "wayne dudenas"
<wdud...@npiec.on.ca> wrote:

:I agree... the people that should of stayed, LEFT and the people that should

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wayne dudenas

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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what ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Na, your a gem. I`m just a pebble that gets kicked around once and awhile.
I wish Leonard and Bruce would show up! We all need somebody to laugh with.
I`m glad Nagler`s back...We need all the info and help that we can get for
this thing called Tinnitus.
Darlene>>>

Coolenmike

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May 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/8/99
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Hi Dr. Nagler,
I wrote you a year or so to thank you for your continued efforts to help us. I
have been absent from this support link for awhile, since I found that 3/4 of
it was mostly unhelpful. Your own comments, however, continue to be the most
valuable. Keep up the good work.
Michael Coolen
Prof. of Music
Oregon State University

V T

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Aug 1, 2023, 10:53:54 PM8/1/23
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On Monday, May 3, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, ENTconsult wrote:
> I can understand why Nagler and other physicians have left this group. Here I
> am with 30 + years of experience, several tinnitus articles, advising a mirror
> technique of biofeedback that my patients have used successfully and "nobody"
> calls it a plug? I am not selling a book. I am not selling anything. to use my
> method all you need is a mirror.
> I suppose some minds are unable to comprehend the concept of people trying to
> be helpful; that type of mind contributes the least to a group and to society.
> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> http://www.ent-consult.com
Hi Entconsult, what’s you mirror eye exercise could you point me to details? Thnkas
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