Why Iodine May Be Necessary For Some
grant
explain why some hypo people do better when they take iodine. I'm still
trying to decide if I should give it a try.
Here's the link to the article:
Skipper
In additon to perchlorate, which also interferes with iodine
absorption. Take fluoridate water, fluoridated toothpaste, fluoride
levels in soda, some bottled water, and ceral, and fluoride residue on
produce as it's used in pesticides, there may be more substantial
amounts than are safe for some people.
Bromine (replaced iodine in much of our bread, and I keep hearing about
it being used in the milking industry instead of iodine because it's
cheaper) also interferes with iodine. In Michigan, for those exposed
to PBB (the entire population practically that was here in 1973) one of
those Bs stands for bromine, and it does interfere with thyroid
function.
It's alleged that the Japanes get about 13 mg of iodine per day (more
than 100 times our RDA) which would be equivalent to 2 drops of Lugol's
Solution. I've read that AITD is no more common in Japan than it is
here. But, when one mentions that they expect to hear that Hashimoto's
is a Japanese word. That doesnt' mean it's more common there.
Skipper
Rod
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> I've read that AITD is no more common in Japan than
> it is here. But, when one mentions that they expect to hear that
> Hashimoto's is a Japanese word. That doesnt' mean it's more common
> there.
>
> Skipper
Especially as Hakaru Hashimoto was working in Berlin at the time. Which,
for you over there, is neither here nor there (if you see what I mean).
--
Rod
tennie
There are a couple of ways to test for iodine sufficiency: iodine
loading then 24 hour urine collection (about $120) or buy some topical
iodine at the drugstore and 'paint' a patch on the skin (heard inner
thigh was best but I had to use the belly--too tan everywhere else from
being on the tennis court so much). Anyway, the quicker the iodine is
absorbed the more deficient you are.
When I did the 'patch' test it was completely undetectable in 2 hours.
My hubby did it too and his lasted 15 hr (would have been more but he
had to get out and sweat and then shower).
I am taking Iodoral, 2 pills twice a day and have gotten my patch to
last up to 5 hours (some days). It really should still be detectable
after 24 hours.
I also take selenium 200 mcg twice a day. This is supposed to 'assist'
the thyroid's ability to make use of the iodine.
I am doing the above under a doctor's advice and care. Within days I
felt MUCH better and when he changed my Rx, I found that I needed only
1/2 of what I had been on and feel better than I have in a long, long
time.
That said, I'm still not where I want to be. Need some adjustments
yet--possibly a problem with the adrenals from what I've been reading.
Skipper
tennie wrote:
>
> I am taking Iodoral, 2 pills twice a day and have gotten my patch to
> last up to 5 hours (some days). It really should still be detectable
> after 24 hours.
I think the only strength Iodoral comes in is 12.5 mg, which means this
is referring to intake of 25 mg of iodine. This would be equivalent to
4 drops of iodine.
Skipper
grant
So glad you are feeling better.
I tried the iodine patch and remember still being able to see the patch up
to 24 hours later. But I'm not so sure that's an accurate way to test. I'm
going to try it again.
I do know that iodine makes my skin break out...but then again, what
doesn't? :)
Take care,
ar
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tennie
2 in the p.m. So the daily intake would be 50 mg or 8 drops of Lugol's
solution.
Skipper
grant wrote:
> Hi Tennie,
>
> So glad you are feeling better.
>
> I tried the iodine patch and remember still being able to see the patch up
> to 24 hours later. But I'm not so sure that's an accurate way to test. I'm
> going to try it again.
Some doctors who understand iodine have stated the iodine patch test
isn't very useful. That being said, some people try the patch test and
find out after they've taken iodine for a while, that the stain really
does last longer when they are iodine sufficient.
So, that leaves it at best a controversial test. Since you live in
Florida, maybe you get quite a bit of iodine if you spend time on the
beach, and pick up your produce from local farmers, where the produce
is grown in iodine rich soil. Or, maybe you don't as it's hard to
quantify.
> I do know that iodine makes my skin break out...but then again, what
> doesn't? :)
This can be a temporary effect. It can also be a detox effect.
It can also be a lack of Vitamin A. After all, vegetarians have to
convert beta carotene to Vitamin A, and hypos have a known problem in
doing so.
Skipper
grant
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> This can be a temporary effect. It can also be a detox effect.
>
> It can also be a lack of Vitamin A. After all, vegetarians have to
> convert beta carotene to Vitamin A, and hypos have a known problem in
> doing so.
>
> Skipper
>
I wasn't always a vegetarian and I've always had acne. I neither go to the
beach or buy local produce.
ar
Skipper
grant wrote:
I neither go to the
> beach or buy local produce.
I would think going to local Farmers' Markets would help add to the
variety of a vegetarian diet. I would go a lot more than I do, if my
wife didn't think she was allergic to every vegetable ever grown except
for green beans. I needn't bother buying anything I don't intend to
cook myself. (or eat raw.)
At least around here, you are also more likely to find organic produce,
as the stores generally don't carry any. Of course, I never understood
why cutting out the middle man tended to make things a bit more
expensive.
Skipper
grant
Good point about cutting out the middle man. :)
Farmer's markets are few and far between here, believe it or not. Our
produce is grown to be sent out of state. We often joke about having to go
to California to get a Florida orange. Okay, perhaps it isn't that bad.
But, the amount of money and time I would spend on trying to shop at a
Farmer's market just isn't worth it to me (blasphemy from a raw foodist) the
gas alone would make any savings non-existant. :)
ar
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Skipper
grant wrote:
> Hi Skipper,
>
> Good point about cutting out the middle man. :)
>
> Farmer's markets are few and far between here, believe it or not.
In Michigan, we have local ones where the farmers will come in on the
weekend and sell. Also, a lot of U-Pick farms and many have their own
stores on the premises.
At the very least, you're going to get fresher produce as the farmer
usually picks it in the morning before coming.
As for Florida, Texas, or California oranges, by the time they get to
us, they taste a lot like cardboard. It's like eating clam chowder in
Virginia, once you've had it there, you probably will never order it in
Michigan again.
You just can't beat fresh products.
As for savings, it's not about that. I wish it was more about that. I
figure if it doesn't cost any more, then I'm getting a good deal.
Unfortunately, it's not unusual for it to be a bit more. But, it's
definitely better quality.
Yes, I grew up near grape fields where the farmers didn't really care
if we had a few bunches on the way home from school. Today, they'd
probably worry about the levels of DDT that were on those grapes, but I
wiped that on my shirt so it was OK, it wasn't like I didn't clean them
first.
Skipper
John Riggs
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Yes, but you're still a cutie, so it doesn't matter that much, does it?
grant
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:) Oh John, I see you are back in top form.
ar
John Riggs
I calls 'em as I sees 'em, Ar.
Simon Waters
> It's alleged that the Japanes get about 13 mg of iodine per day (more
> than 100 times our RDA)
I think that is roundly debunked somewhere online....
All I found quickly was this one, but it was addressed more fully else
where.
http://www.townsendletter.com/AugSept2005/gabyiodine0805.htm
The Japanese do eat more Iodine on average than Brits, Americans, and
most everyone else. But it would be rash to assume this is the only
difference that might affect incidence of thyroid disease, as there are
documented genetic differences affecting the incidence of Graves' disease,
and the response to Yersenia enterocolitica, amongst many other
differences. One study also linked Graves' disease to Cedar pollen, which
whilst not entirely a Japanese hazard, also points to other possible
sources of difference between Japan and other countries.
Hakaru Hashimoto documented lymphatic infiltration of the thyroid before
going to Germany, so it is definitely a Japanese discovery, and one
Japans Endocrine society are still rightfully proud of.
It was common at the time for Japanese medical papers to be written in
German, which adds to the general confusion.
NOBUYUKI AMINO, HISATO TADA, YOH HIDAKA and KAZUO HASHIMOTO. “History of
Hashimoto’s Disease” Endocr J Vol. 49: 393-397, (2002) .
Available free online here;
http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/endocrj/49/4/49_393/_article/-char/en