old FAQ

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"Mike Gandolf" <ran...@firewall.net> wrote in message
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> OK here is the old FAQ - some of the links are old (Tallcity.com isn't
> around anymore, but there are rumors that it is being rebuilt) but if
> someone on the group wants to update it an post it once a week, the
> concepts are all sound.
>
> Subject: Alt.support.tall FAQ (frequently asked questions)
> Summary: Description and information for users of the
> newsgroup alt.support.tall
>
> Followup-To: alt.support.tall
> Expires: Jul 31, 1998 00:00:00 GMT
> Last-modified: 6/5/98
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> Author: Daniel Terp TCNYC
>
> Welcome to alt.support.tall!
>
> The following is a list of common topics and questions
> found on the newsgroup alt.support.tall. Please check
> to see if the answer is here before posting to the group.
>
> If you have something to contribute to this FAQ, please post
>
> it to a.s.t (alt.support.tall) under the subject
> "FAQ contribution"
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> This FAQ is available 24 hours a day at the new TallCity web
> site-
> www.tallcity.com , along with other information of interest
> to tall people.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The condensed version-
>
> a.s.t. (alt.support.tall ) is a newsgroup for discussion of
> topics
> of interest to tall people. No personal ads or binaries
> (photos),
> please. Non-tall people are welcome to post as long as the
> topic directly concerns tall people (i.e. making a tall
> friend
> comfortable at a party, etc.) Cruising for dates by anyone,
> Tall or short, will get you seriously flamed.
>
> In fact, lately the mere mention of tall/short dating
> requires
> the use of asbestos underwear.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Index-
>
> Terms -
> . What is a FAQ?
> . What is a TallHawk?
> . What is Macrophilia?
> . What is a troll?
> . What is TCI?
> . What is KLM?
>
> Questions -
> . Why a support group for tall people?
> . How Tall is Tall?
> . What is a tall club?
> . Is there a (where is the) tall club in X city?
> . How do I join a tall club?
> . Where are the tall girls that like to date short guys?
> . How Tall are you? (comebacks)
> . How do I know what the best weight is for me?
> . What the heck is Marfan Syndrome, anyway?
> . Why do people here gripe so much?
> . Can I place a personal ad here?
> . Can I promote my video here?
> . Where do I find pictures of really tall women?
> . Is there a group for short people?
> . Is there a way I can become taller?
> . How do I find comfortable seats on an airplane?
> . What ever happened to TallWeb?
>
> Appendix -
> . The appendicies have been moved to www.TallCity.com
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> GLOSSARY OF COMMON TERMS ON A.S.T. -
>
> Q) What is a FAQ?
>
> A) A FAQ is a list of (F)requently (A)sked (Q)uestions and
> other
> useful information found on a particular newsgroup (ng).
> Answers are based on replies to the ng so accuracy is not
> guaranteed, but the information is usually useful.
>
> The main idea behind a FAQ is to prevent the group from
> being
> overwhelmed by the same question being posted time after
> time.
> So please take the time to see if the information you seek
> is
> here before asking the group.
>
> The A.S.T. FAQ is very new, started in April 1997, but much
> of
> the information normally found in a FAQ has already been
> archived on web sites around the world,
> so to save bandwidth we will only list the relevant URL's
> here.
>
>
>
> Q) What is a TallHawk?
>
> A) A person with a fetish for tall people, usually a short
> to
> average male looking for a very tall woman, whom they often
> refer to as a "giantess". The fetish usually involves
> domination or infantilism. a.s.t. does not tolerate
> discussion
> of Tallhawks well because it focuses on the
> interests and desires of non-tall people, and discussion
> of TallHawks really belongs on one of the tallhawk groups,
> >alt.tallgirls< or>alt.tall-women.admirers< or
> >alt.amazon-women.admirers<
> Or search the web for tallhawk or giantess.
>
>
>
>
>
> Q) What is Macrophilia?
>
> A) Macrophilia is a sexual obsession with size, usually
> height.
> Macrophiliacs are people who fantasize about tall people,
> giants, being abducted or dominated by giants, and so forth.
>
> Kind of like a TallHawk taken to the clinical phase.
> They can be male or female, although males are more common.
> Like most obsessions it is only a problem if it causes
> trouble
> for the person or for someone the macrophiliac has fixated
> on.
>
> If you are a tall person who is being persued by a
> macrophiliac,
> Contact your local police department and ask for their
> stalking
> expert. Macrophiliacs are rarely dangerous, but you are
> dealing
> with a person who doesn't have a real firm grip on reality,
> so
> it is best to be careful. Whatever you do, don't try to
> handle
> it yourself, it's possible thatthreatening a Macrophiliac
> will deepen their
> attraction to you, as you are providing the dominant image
> they crave.
>
>
>
>
>
> Q) What is a troll?
>
> A) The term "troll" used on a.s.t. is not a reference to
> a person's height, or even to a person at all. A troll is a
> type
> of posting, and the person who posts a troll is called a
> troller. The name comes from a type of fishing common in the
>
> Northern United States, where a line is cast into a lake and
> the boat is pulled across the lake by a small electric
> motor.
> This led to the common expression "trolling for
> compliments".
> The expression pre-dates a.s.t on the internet by many
> years.
>
> Trolling on the internet is usually more like "trolling for
> insults".The troller usually makes outlandish statements
> solely for the purpose of inflaming and angering the group.
> A common troll on a.s.t is the "eugenics troll" where
> a person claims that the group is somehow dedicated to
> wiping
> out short people. Of course this is not true, but much
> uproar
> is generated in defending the group's integrity.
>
> Trolls are not well liked anywhere on the internet.
> They are simply vandals and troublemakers.
>
>
>
> Q) What is TCI?
>
> A) Tall Clubs International, an organization for tall
> adults on the U.S. and Canada (see below)
>
> Q) What is KLM?
>
> A) Klub Lange Mensen, Which in English translates
> roughly as "club for tall people", is a loosely
> associated group of tall clubs in Northern
> Europe. There is no central organization as
> with TCI, but the clubs do cooperate on joint
> events. (see below)
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> COMMON QUESTIONS -
>
> Q) Why a support group for tall people?
>
> A) While we understand that most of the support groups are
> for
> people with serious problems and medical conditions, there
> is a
> small group of ngs for people who are simply different from
> the
> general population. These differences, such as being tall,
> short, fat and so on have their own problems and
> complications
> that the general population has a hard time understanding.
> There are also a host of medical and social problems
> associated
> with being very tall, as well as the usual problems of
> finding
> clothing, furniture etc.
>
> Most often, there is a need to simply talk to someone who
> has
> gone through the same things, and to share the joys and
> hardships with one's peers. While we realize that those that
> are
> not tall might not see it as a problem needing support, we
> ask
> your indulgence and request that you lurk a while before
> posting.
>
> Q) How Tall is Tall??
>
> A)There is no height limit for posting to this ng, as long
> as
> the topic directly concerns height and being tall. But if
> you
> must have a number, figure 5'-10"+(1.78 m)for women and
> 6'-2"+
> (1.88 m) for men as a good starting point. In countries with
>
> a tall population like the Netherlands, add a few inches.
>
> In general, you're tall if people comment on your height
> more
> than 2-3 times a month.
>
> Q) What is a tall club?
>
> A) Tall clubs are social clubs for tall people. There are
> over
> 65 in the US and Canada, another 50 in Northern Europe, and
> one in Africa. The clubs hold social functions, dances and
> conventions, assist in finding clothing and provide medical
> information. The North American convention of
> tall clubs is usually held around July 4th,
> The European convention in mid May.
>
> Most clubs have a minimum height requirement, but these
> vary from club to club.
>
> The main North American organization is called
> Tall Clubs International (TCI). There are several in Europe,
>
> Klub Lange Mensen (KLM ), KdG (Klub der Großen, East
> Germany)
> and Tall People's club of Great Britain and Ireland
> (TPCGB&I)
>
> Q) Is there a (where is the) tall club in X city?
>
> A) A list of all the tall clubs in the world is located at:
> http://www.tallcity.com/ under "clubs and parties"
>
> Q) How do I join a tall club?
>
> A) Please contact the organization in your area-
> North America -
>
> TALL CLUBS INTERNATIONAL
> P.O. Box 1964, Bloomfield, NJ 07003-1964
> Toll-Free Hotline: 800-521-2512
> Email: tci-se...@tall.org
> Home Page: http://www.tall.org/
> Europe-
>
> Klub Lange Mensen Europa
> Langenrehmer Dorfstrasse 4
> 2107 Rosengarten 2
> Germany
> (011-49) 41-08-7244
> Homepage:
> http://www.languit.nl/
>
> European Federation of Tall Persons
> Schans 27
> 1261 MJ Blaricum
> Netherlands
> (011-31) 2152-66800 voice
> (011-31)2152-57135 fax
> Email: ef...@worldaccess.nl
> Homepage:
> http://www.worldaccess.nl/~eftp
>
> Klub der Großen in Deutschland e.V.,
> Bezirksgruppe Chemnitz
> Poetenweg 12
> 08056 Zwickau
> 0375 / 281637
> Home Page:
> http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~saku/klub.htm
>
> Q) Where can I find tall-size clothing, sporting goods, etc?
>
> A) www.tallcity.com
>
> Q) Where are the tall girls that like to date short guys?
>
> A) We don't know, but there aren't any here, please go away.
>
>
> Q) How Tall are you? (comebacks)
>
> A) list of all the snappy comebacks for stupid tall
> questions
> like "do you play basketball" and "how's the weather up
> there"
> is located on Arjan's Tallpages at:
> http://www.stack.nl/~arjanr/tall/tallpages.htm
> and on the Comeback page at:
> http://www2.ecst.csuchico.edu/~atman/Tall/comebacks.html
>
> While we realize that hearing questions about your height
> can be
> tedious, we ask that you refrain from being unduly nasty in
> your response, we don't want to give tall people a bad
> reputation.
>
> Q) How do I know what the best weight is for me?
>
> A) The problem here is that most height/weight charts stop
> at 5'-10" for women and 6'-2" for men. The solution to
> this problem is to use something called the Freeman formula,
>
> developed by Dr Richard Freeman, Vice-chairman of
> medicine at the University of Wisconsin at Madison. Here it
> is:
>
> For a woman, Give 100 pounds for the first five feet of
> height,
> plus 5 pounds for each additional inch. Thus a woman of 6'2"
>
> would be 100 plus 70 (14 more inches times 5)= 170 lbs.
>
> For a man, Give 106 pounds for the first 5 feet of height
> plus
> 6 pounds for each additional inch. Thus a man of 6'7" would
> be 106 plus 114 (19 more inches times 6)= 220 lbs.
>
> The freeman formula equates to body fat percentages of
> 15-19% in males and 18-22% in females (these are the body
> fat levels recommended by the medical profession).
>
> Now, the freeman formula allows for you to correct for your
> frame size. The formulas estimate for a person with a medium
>
> frame. If you have a narrow frame, subtract 10% from the
> body weight calculation, and if you have a large frame, add
> 10% to the body weight calculation. So, if you are a 6'-7"
> man with a narrow frame, you should weigh 220-22 = 198 lbs.
>
> The Freeman estimates are close to estimates given on those
> height-weight charts. Many doctors think the charts
> accurately
> represent what you should weigh - and other think the charts
>
> run "small", and that you should weigh a little more than
> your
> Freeman weight estimate. Also remember that Muscles weigh
> more than fat, so allow for a little extra weight if you're
> a
> body builder. (Contributed by Anna Lovrien)
>
> Q) What the heck is Marfan Syndrome, anyway?
>
> A) Marfan Syndrome is an inherited disorder of the
> connective
> tissues that affects some tall people, and can be fatal. The
> symptoms are often overlooked, you may have it and not know,
>
> even if you visit your doctor regularly. For
> more information visit: National Marfan Association
> http://www.marfan.org This site has links to
> Marfan Groups in other countries as well. or
> see the MARFAN FAQ, posted to alt.support.tall
>
> Q) Why do people here gripe so much, isn't being tall better
>
> than being short?
>
> A) the nature of support groups is that people come here
> with
> their problems, so some griping is to be expected. After
> all,
> the group would be pretty boring if every post was "gee,
> it's really great to be tall!"
>
> And the fact is that it's NOT always great to be tall, but
> non-talls often fail to understand that. So people come here
>
> for advice and a sympathetic ear. But given the choice, most
>
> tall people would not change their height.
>
> Q) Can I place a personal ad here?
>
> A) NO! NO! NO! alt.support.tall is for discussion
> of tall subjects only. We get really pissy if you post a
> personal ad here, even if you're tall. There is a group for
> tall personals,>alt.personals.tall< please post your
> personal
> ad there. There are also tall personals pages
> at the TCI web site: www.tall.org, or get a free tall
> singles
> web page at the TallCity site: www.tallcity.com
>
> Q) Can I promote my video here?
>
> A: That depends. Videos that provide instructional
> information
> of direct interest to tall people, such as a video on the
> treatment of Marfan Syndrome, are Ok if only posted once.
> Other video productions, especially those of a prurient
> nature
> featuring tall people (TallHawk Videos), are strictly
> forbidden for the following reasons:
>
> 1) Using a support group to sell stuff is generally
> forbidden.
>
> 2) Some of the women here have been harrassed by tall
> fetishists, it's one of the things we provide support for.
> Some of the men have had female friends who have been
> harrassed. Promoting videos addressed at this group (tall
> fetishists) could be seen as legitimizing this behavior.
> Kind of like promoting a a video that features "Sensuous
> Teens" on a child abuse support group. The film may be
> legal, but it's a poor choice of venue. Please be
> considerate and post this material on TallHawk groups only.
>
> Q) Where do I find pictures of really tall women?
>
> A) try one of the tall fetish groups,
> >alt.tall-women.admirers<,
> >alt.sex.fetish.giants< or >alt.tallgirls<
> There are also many sites on the Web like "The Giantess
> Zone"
> and the "Amazon Arena"
>
> NOTE: a.s.t is NOT a fetish group, fetishists will
> be flamed into charcoal !
>
> Q) Is there a group for short people?
>
> A) >alt.support.short< deals with all the problems of being
> short. There is also a National Association for
> short people in the US, called Little People of America.
> The maximum height is 4'-10". While geneticly normal short
> people can join, the group mostly involves people with
> skeletal dysplasias, The most common of which
> is achondroplasia, also known as skeletal
> dwarfism. Affected men average 51.8 inches in
> height, while women average 48.6 inches. For
> more info visit the Dwarfism home page at:
> http://www-bfs.ucsd.edu/dwarfism/
>
> Q) Is there a way I can become taller?
>
> A) That depends on how old you are and how short you are.
> Human Growth Hormone (HGH) can be administered by a doctor
> to
> increase height by 1-3 inches, but the program must be
> started
> before puberty to be effective.There are also serious side
> effects, so most doctors won't do this for someone who is
> simply a few inches below average. Another solution is limb
> extention surgery, where the bones are cut and put in a
> frame
> or brace a small distance apart, the bone then growing into
> the space. This procedure takes 2-4 years and is rumoured to
>
> be very painful. Because of this, and the risk of infection
> from
> the frames sticking out through the skin, doctors usually
> perform this procedure only on dwarfs and people with
> uneven limb length. If you are in your early teens, a
> program
> of sensible diet with plenty of fish and lots of exercise
> may
> help, if you are over 18 there's not much you can do.
>
> HGH will NOT increase the height of a person who has already
>
> completed puberty.
>
> Whatever you do DO NOT try black market HGH, most of the
> stuff out there was made for veterinary use in cattle or
> horses
> and is not fit for humans. Also, the dosage must be
> carefully
> controlled or kidney or liver failure may result.
> Whatever you do, see a doctor first.
>
> The easiest solution is to wear cowboy boots with a
> 4" stack heel, or consult Richlee Shoe Co. for some
> of their "Elevator" shoes.
>
> Q) How do I find comfortable seats on an airplane?
>
> A) There is a listing of tricks and tips at
> www.tallcity.com/air.html
>
> Q)I'm having trouble getting to the TallCity site, what can
> I do?
>
> A) Some browsers, especially browsers with security devices
> called "firewalls", have a problem with www.tallcity.com
> If this is the case, try the following address:
> http://www.geocities.com/~tallcity/
> This should get you around the firewall.
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 09:21:11 -0700, "DHP" <den...@rmi.net> wrote:
>
> >Thanks, Mike. I would really appreciate it if you would post the FAQ,
and
> >make sure it says "If you send an unwanted private email to a subscriber,
> >expect to see it in the newsgroup." I am very angry at this creepy
little
> >man, who is now stalking and harassing me as well as inviting other
creepy
> >little men who visit his website to stalk and harass me. Since he posted
a
> >link to my website, I have had to take it down. I have also emailed him
> >asking him to remove my email address immediately, and if he doesn't do
it -
> >like by the end of the day - I am going to complain to his ISP and turn
him
> >in as a suspected stalker to every interested agency I can find. YOU GET
> >THAT, JOERG?! You whiny little pervy slug. Then we'll see who's having
a
> >great life.
> >
> >Mike Gandolf <ran...@firewall.net> wrote in message
> >news:38d1c054...@news.gti.net...
> >> I used to be pretty active on this group a few years ago, and we used
> >> to have a good FAQ that covered tallhawks and such.
> >>
> >> Everybody kept to the rules of the FAQ, and when somebody broke the
> >> rules, they got flamed. It worked pretty well, because the tallhawks
> >> knew what the story was, and how we felt about them, right up front.
> >>
> >> But then people got pissy because they didn't want any rules for the
> >> group, so we stopped posting the FAQ.
> >>
> >> Seems the roosters have come home to roost.
> >>
> >> If you want, I could post the old one, and someone on the group could
> >> update it and post it about once a week.
> >>
> >> Let me know how you guys feel by posting to the group, your emails
> >> will be blocked (firewall)
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:32:38 GMT, ha...@karen.black.is.god (Burnt
> >> Offerings) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Why don't you go get some psychiatric help for your problem? Yes, I
> >> >said PROBLEM. You are a sicko. Fetishism IS NOT a feature of a
> >> >mentally healthy individual. Instead of making webpages to "help the
> >> >needs of tall women" ...whatever the hell that is supposed to mean,
> >> >you need to be on a shrinks couch.
> >>
> >
>

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