Gay and Lesbian Tall Folk
Newtochat
Hi, I've been lurking.
I'm curious. Are there any gay and lesbian tall people lurking out there?
I wonder if the issues tall gay men and lesbians face are different from
the heterosexual norm.
I was also just wondering if this is an all-straight newsgroup. Every
tall club I've ever heard of is straight as well. Are gay people welcome
at tall clubs?
Michael
Dude Devon D. Trashtop
Michael,
Not that this is a big help, but on TallWeb, they have resources for
all types, and there is a tall gay man's club listed (no web page, but
I believe E-mail)... anyone have the web address?
I doubt this is straight-only, friend, for as long as the subject is
being tall, that issue doesn't really matter (eg: I am gay, but I never
sit there and bring it up constantly as it really isn't a necessary
piece of information here)... and as for being welcome at tall clubs,
well... you might just want to check on that.
-Devon
5'2", 110#
"Die Job Death Car?"
Rachel Denise James
Newtochat (newt...@aol.com) wrote:
: Hi, I've been lurking.
--
Michael,
As it has been to my experience, there are many many gay and
lesbian people in tall clubs, but they just don't let the fact be known.
And as far as gay and lesbians having the same problems as us
"straight" tall folks I can assure you that they probably are.
Don't lurk, let us hear what you have to say, I bet you will find that you
may not be alone.
Take Care,
Rachel
Newtochat
I hope this interests the group.
I happened to come back from a gay and lesbian dance bar tonight, and I
noticed a lesbian woman, about 6'1" and a gay guy about 5'5" having a
GREAT time dancing together. I don't think either of them thought twice
about their heights.
(Then she went back to her girlfriend and he to his boyfriend, but it sure
was fun to watch. They were both great dancers.)
Now I would guess, and I hope this doesn't offend anyone, that such
un-self-consciousness is less common in the straight world where more men
are concerned about acting macho and more women are concerned about
"looking feminine," especially in front of their friends who might laugh.
But everyone I was with just enjoyed watching these two dance
Then again, maybe, being gay, I'm just prejudiced in thinking that we gay
and lesbian folk are less uptight about such things. Am I wrong?
(Then, again, on the other hand, the two certainly weren't dating each
other. Does that make a difference?)
Dan Timis
Newtochat wrote:
>
> I hope this interests the group.
>
> I happened to come back from a gay and lesbian dance bar tonight, and I
> noticed a lesbian woman, about 6'1" and a gay guy about 5'5" having a
> GREAT time dancing together. I don't think either of them thought twice
> about their heights.
>
>
> Now I would guess, and I hope this doesn't offend anyone, that such
> un-self-consciousness is less common in the straight world where more men
> are concerned about acting macho and more women are concerned about
> "looking feminine," especially in front of their friends who might laugh.
>
A couple of years ago I was dating a woman who's 5 inches taller than I.
One time we were slow dancing in a bar and it seemed that most people
were
trying very hard not to stare but they just couldn't help it. But there
was this idiot dancing next to us. He was at least 6 inches taller than
his partner and he was also pretty drunk. First he kept staring at us,
whispering something in her ear and laughing. Then he started bending
his
knees trying to make himself shorter than her in order to mock us. First
I
wanted to punch him, which of course I didn't. I just ignored him and
thought "He is a jerk and he is the one making a total idiot of himself"
> Then again, maybe, being gay, I'm just prejudiced in thinking that we gay
> and lesbian folk are less uptight about such things. Am I wrong?
>
On this particular issue you are right. But I'm sure there are other
issues
that *some* gays and lesbians are uptight about.
> (Then, again, on the other hand, the two certainly weren't dating each
> other. Does that make a difference?)
Maybe it does make a difference. I also do a lot of ballroom dancing.
In
those places it is very common to see shorter guys dancing with taller
women
and having a great time. You could also see a 25 year old guy dancing
with a
60 year old woman and having a great time. But I don't see a lot of
dating
between couples who are ill-matched by traditional standards.
On the other hand you don't see shorter man/taller woman couples in
ballroom
competitions. You also don't see overweight people or even men much
taller
than the woman. But I do see plenty of non-competitive ballroom dancers
who
are overweight. That doesn't prevent them from showing great dancing
skills
and having a great time.
The world is a very diverse place and we should all enjoy and appreciate
our
differences.
Dan
TallWeb
In article <19970308110...@ladder01.news.aol.com> newt...@aol.com (Newtochat) writes:
>Hi, I've been lurking.
>I was also just wondering if this is an all-straight newsgroup. Every
>tall club I've ever heard of is straight as well. Are gay people welcome
>at tall clubs?
For the record, Tall Clubs International makes no mention of gender
orientation in it's bylaws. All you have to be is tall and over 21.
There are a few gay and Bi members that I have met, but not many.
Then again, these are only the ones that have shown themselves
to be gay. It's none of my business, so I don't ask.
I do know on one past club president who is gay, and in an ongoing gay
relationship, but she moved to another state (new Job) and couldn't continue
with the club.
As a singles venue, I expect that gay events would offer better odds.
There is also a club for tall gay men (over 6'-2") -
TMN (Tall Men's Network)
1010 University Avenue #338
San Diego, CA 92103
Email: ddi...@ix.netcom.com
No web site that I know of.
Marsha J
Then there are also the interesting cases like mine... I think I'd be a
bit short (about 6') for men's membership, but being transsexual I would
pass the womans' height requirements.
Marsha
MarshaJ
Robert Krawitz
In article <steiner-ya0240800...@nntp.best.com> ste...@antispam.best.com (Michelle Steiner) writes:
In article <19970311030...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, mar...@aol.com
(Marsha J) wrote:
Hi Marsha,
Even as a woman, I don't meet the qualifications--too bad they won't let me
be measured in heels; then I'd (barely) qualify.
Manny's 5'8"; that hasn't stopped her from being accepted (granted, as
an associate member) by the Beanstalks (and every other club she's
come in contact with).
I think a few more Michelles and a few less Tonys would do this
newsgroup a lot of good.
--
Robert Krawitz <r...@tiac.net> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail l...@uunet.uu.net
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-800-521-2512
Hilary Marie Smith (LadyRed)
Newtochat (newt...@aol.com) wrote:
: Hi, I've been lurking.
*wave*
: I'm curious. Are there any gay and lesbian tall people lurking out there?
does "bi" count? *grin* if so yes.
: I wonder if the issues tall gay men and lesbians face are different from
: the heterosexual norm.
hmmmm... i work at a two theatres, being one of the few women that work
there i fall into a couple of steriotypical traps.
1. being tall and working in a "traditionally" mail job place it is
assumed by many that i am gay. (i dont think it is offensive, just kina
funny)
2. being female period, in a male oriented place it is assumed that i am
"helpless" (then i do something cool, like reach something no one else
can or lift something "too heavy")
i kinda think the issues are "universal".
: I was also just wondering if this is an all-straight newsgroup. Every
: tall club I've ever heard of is straight as well. Are gay people welcome
: at tall clubs?
ya know, lately i have found that theoretically "straight" groups arent
all that straight. i have a lot of "bent" (self-term, coined by my
friends =P )friends so i dont tend to focus on others being different in
that way. to me it is "normal" =)
*shrug*
-hil, 6'2"
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Noctyrne
Welcome!
>: I'm curious. Are there any gay and lesbian tall people lurking out there?
>: I wonder if the issues tall gay men and lesbians face are different from
>: the heterosexual norm.
>: I was also just wondering if this is an all-straight newsgroup. Every
>: tall club I've ever heard of is straight as well. Are gay people welcome
>: at tall clubs?
I can't speak for the clubs, but I have noticed that the tall chat
rooms on AOL tend to be homophobic. Not always, but occasionally I
have observed downright hostility when someone comes in looking for
members of the same sex. It would be nice if we could just say "no
thanks" and be flattered at the attention. One would think tall
people would be more accepting of differences.
Don't know if it's related but I have also noticed a
lower-than-average mental capacity there... ;-)
Paul
<*~le petit prince~*>
On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <5gc74p$4...@isnews.csc.calpoly.edu>,
> hsm...@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu (Hilary Marie Smith (LadyRed)) wrote:
>
> >: I'm curious. Are there any gay and lesbian tall people lurking out there?
> >
> >does "bi" count? *grin* if so yes.
>
> That's two of us. <smile>
>
> --Michelle
>
and i suppose i make three.
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Robert Krawitz
ste...@antispam.best.com (Michelle Steiner) writes:
> In article <5g6dc4$s...@news-central.tiac.net>, r...@sunspot.tiac.net (Robert
> Krawitz) wrote:
>
> >Manny's 5'8"; that hasn't stopped her from being accepted (granted, as
> >an associate member) by the Beanstalks (and every other club she's
> >come in contact with).
>
> Can a person be an associate member without being "attached" to a member?
> Does the San Jose, CA, club have associate members, for that matter?
Associate members are defined as spouses (of members -- and sorry, it
must be spouses according to TCI bylaws) who do not meet the height
requirements. However, clubs are permitted to designate honorary
members. Honorary members may not vote or hold club office. Honorary
members may number up to 5% of a club's regular membership. A club is
not required to offer either honorary or associate membership; I don't
know what the Silicon Valley (the San Jose club renamed itself) club
policies are.
Generally, clubs elect honorary members who have distinguished
themselves in service to the club, but that's not mandatory, either.
Compaq
Hilary Marie Smith (LadyRed) <hsm...@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu> wrote in
article <5gc74p$4...@isnews.csc.calpoly.edu>...
> Newtochat (newt...@aol.com) wrote:
> : I was also just wondering if this is an all-straight newsgroup. Every
> : tall club I've ever heard of is straight as well. Are gay people
welcome
> : at tall clubs?
>
> ya know, lately i have found that theoretically "straight" groups arent
> all that straight. i have a lot of "bent" (self-term, coined by my
> friends =P )friends so i dont tend to focus on others being different in
> that way. to me it is "normal" =)
> *shrug*
>
> -hil, 6'2"
I think there *should* be a gay club. I myself am not, but my best friend
is and I know there is a very strong community of non-tall gays out there.
Why not start a club yourself? That way you can dictate the scope, the
membership, etc. Sometimes it might even be good to consider a separate gay
and lesbian club, that way you can even more tailor it to your customers.
By the way, I had a roommate that was a lesbian, and she is 6'1". I lost
touch with her, but I know there are many people out there that are gay and
tall....you can't tell me that all gay people are short!
Regards,
Kamay
Jimt69
in referenc to the last post i have to say that it has been my experience
that gay men are taller than average and very tall men seem to be gay more
often as well
Daniel Terp
This is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. As a design professional
and resident of New York's Greenwich Village (like the Castro district in San
Francisco) I've seen and known more gay people in a month than most people do
in a lifetime. (I'm straight, but they don't seem to mind)
I can say with all certainty that gay people come in all shapes and sizes and
colors, in about the same proportions as the rest of the population.
Pretty ones and ugly ones and smart ones and stupid ones and handicapped ones
and crazy twisted ones, just like the rest of us in about the same numbers.
794m...@gmail.com
> Hi, I've been lurking.
>
>
> the heterosexual norm.
>
> tall club I've ever heard of is straight as well. Are gay people welcome
> at tall clubs?
>