Lorien - Prozac generic
Laurel Swartz
believe it's a Prozac generic.
Laurel
MAS
a Prozac generic is released and even then, the price in the beginning
will not be much less than Prozac itself. He said it take a few more
years before the price goes down. Maybe it's just another SSRI, but I
will ask him about it. Thanks.
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"Laurel Swartz" <lau...@iafrica.com> wrote:
> Has anyone had any experience of Lorien? I've just started taking it and
> believe it's a Prozac generic.
>
> Laurel
>
Lilly holds the "hard" patent for Prozac for about another 10 years. They
haven't released a gereric equivalent.
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MAS <masn...@home.com> wrote:
> Really? My pharmacist told me it will be another couple of years before
> a Prozac generic is released and even then, the price in the beginning
> will not be much less than Prozac itself. He said it take a few more
> years before the price goes down. Maybe it's just another SSRI, but I
> will ask him about it. Thanks.
>
The price has been coming down for some time. This has more to do with an
incredible amount of competition since prozac was first released.
The big drop in price will occur when the brand new class of drugs
(unrelated to SSRI's)is released.
MAS
was prescribed 30 Prozac (20mg) once a day. Unfortunately, I no longer
have a prescription plan and have to pay cash, so I asked my doctor if
he would write for 15, refillable once. At the local CVS here in the
Philadelphia area, 15 pills costs $44.65! Because I didn't have enough
on me, I asked the pharmacist that since I wanted to get started, could
she just sell me 5 and then after payday I'll return for the balance.
She said fine, and 5 20mg Prozac cost $17.45! If the price has been
coming down for some time, I can't imagine what it was a few years ago!
Whew, over $3/pill, sounds like the price you'd pay on the streets of
North Philadelphia! Take care,
Marc - Jenkintown, PA (searching for a good Rx plan or free samples!)
andreski
the manufacturers of prozac,and virtualy of all the new wave psych
drugs, have "access programs" which will provide meds. free or at reduced
cost to people who are of low income, butnot low enough to qualify for
medicaid. ask your doc to apply for you if your wallet is thin.
lily, who makes prozac are also very gemerous providing samples for free
to any doc who asks. i've supplied many folks at no cost for years!
meanwhile, regarding the original question: prozac is still on atent so
i don't think there's a generic available, unles in some other country?
thechemical name is fluoxetine and if the orignl poster supplies swith
the chemical name if the drug "lorien" we can figure outwhat it is.
take care,
steve andreski MD
MAS wrote in message <35C4AAD4...@home.com>...
Tia McMillen
67.00/month, or about 2.25 each. Still not cheap, but worth every cent!
On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, MAS wrote:
> Maybe so, I don't know what the price was years back, but last month I
> was prescribed 30 Prozac (20mg) once a day. Unfortunately, I no longer
> have a prescription plan and have to pay cash, so I asked my doctor if
> he would write for 15, refillable once. At the local CVS here in the
> Philadelphia area, 15 pills costs $44.65! Because I didn't have enough
MAS
qualify for any of the "access programs" but I'll certainly ask my
doctor about it. I did ask if he had any samples but he said he was out
of them right now and waiting for more. Perhaps my next appt. in about 3
weeks he'll provide me with some samples of Prozac.
Thanks again for the info.
winter...@yahoo.com
usually recieve a large amount of samples that they can pass out for people
unable to afford a normal prescription.
winter...@yahoo.com
joanne...@sympatico.ca wrote:
> winter...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Lilly holds the "hard" patent for Prozac for about another 10 years. They
> > haven't released a gereric equivalent.
>
> month's supply of 30 pills.
>
Nope. Canada's national healthcare program negotiated a discount by
choosing to place prozac on its "preferred" formulary. What that
means is that the doctor's first choice (for maximum coverage to the
patient) is prozac.
A lot of countries with socialized medicine do this. As a matter of
fact, a lot of HMO' and PPO's do the same thing. This is why, in my
HMO, I only pay about 10 bucks a month for a prescription. The HMO
gets a deep discount, the Manufacturer is guaranteed a long-term
predictable income, everbody else.....full price.
It sort of reduces the patients choice since the doctor becomes hard
pressed to recommend an alternate if the drug isn't working.
zai...@my-dejanews.com
generic prozac called, APO-Fluoxetine which is manufactured by a company here
in Canada called Apotex. They make alot of generic pharmaceuticals. Just like
someone from Canada listed earlier. Visit their website
http://www.apoferm.mb.ca/ to learn more about them. You will see a generic
prozac pill in their "collage" of pills.
Love and Happiness to all,
ZAINTO.
Visit my depression faq at http://www.mnsi.net/~showell/depression.htm
MAS
that the patent expires December, 2001.
> >
>
> Lilly holds the "hard" patent for Prozac for about another 10 years. They
> haven't released a gereric equivalent.
>
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additional 5 years of partial protection. This industry owns holds patents
lock, stock, and barrel.
MAS wrote:
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ordering a 40mg pill, the generic manufacturer can pass it with only 30mg of the
actual drug in it.
check out http://www.fda.gov/
In the end, you get what you pay for.
zai...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> I live in Canada as well and for about four years I have been taking the
> generic prozac called, APO-Fluoxetine which is manufactured by a company here
> in Canada called Apotex. They make alot of generic pharmaceuticals. Just like
> someone from Canada listed earlier. Visit their website
> http://www.apoferm.mb.ca/ to learn more about them. You will see a generic
> prozac pill in their "collage" of pills.
>
> Love and Happiness to all,
> ZAINTO.
>
> Visit my depression faq at http://www.mnsi.net/~showell/depression.htm
>
robert john goodwin
Diane
Laurel Swartz wrote:
Has anyone had any experience of Lorien? I've just started taking it and
believe it's a Prozac generic.Laurel
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MZ
andreski
manufacturer must show that a certain percentage of the drug is
"bio-available", that is that it shows up in the blood of those who take it.
this generally has to do with use of different fillers, how the pill is
formed and pressed, but the actual amount of active ingredient is still the
same. in my practice i've become aware of some generics that were only
about 3/4 the effect of the original...some generic valium was classic for
this. a related problem is there can be many different generics and you
may end up with different ones when you fill each prescription. it can e as
if you keep changing the dose of the drug. try to make sure the drug store
you se will keep giving you the same generic to minimize this.
meanwhile. it appears there is NO generic for prozac...just cheaper
price negotiated in some countries or with some HMOs as per previous post.
finally, has anyone discovered what the chemical name of "lorien" is?
steve andreski MD
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DEPRESSIVES hooked on "happy" drug Prozac have something new to be down
about: the drug for which they have been paying more than R300 a box is
actually available at less than half the price, provided they ask for it by
the right name.
United States company Eli Lilly, inventor of the wonder drug, is now selling
three versions of it in South Africa. A South African company is
manufacturing and marketing its own generic version of the drug,
undercutting Eli Lilly's prices.
Pharmacists said this week that the only differences between the drugs lay
in their marketing - and the colour of the capsules.
But the original Prozac, the one most users demand and their doctors
prescribe, sells for R305 a box. Eli Lilly's generic, Lilly Fluoxetine,
introduced in January, is available at R181. And South African company
Lennon is marketing Lorien, which costs just R124,37.
All you have to do to get the cheaper drugs is to ask for them.
"There is a segment of the market where lower-cost, high-quality medication
is required and we have thus made lower-priced Fluoxetine available to this
sector," Eli Lilly said in a statement this week.
The products, the company said, are "totally different" though they are
"chemically similar".
"While Lilly Fluoxetine is simply made available, Prozac is heavily
supported through ongoing research and development of new indications and
continuing dissemination of updated information to health care professionals
by medical specialists and a highly qualified team of representatives," the
company added.
Others disagree with Eli Lilly's diagnosis. Dr Anthony Teggin, a Cape Town
psychiatrist, said Lilly Fluoxetine was "packed in different coloured
capsules to fool the public as well as the prescribing doctors".
He said many patients were so keen on Prozac that they actually refused to
take generic substitutes.
Teggin said that under current pharmaceutical legislation a pharmacist
cannot sell the cheaper generic if a doctor's prescription says Prozac - a
situation which the Minister of Health, Nkosazana Zuma, is seeking to change
with her legislative drive in favour of generic medicines.
"Dr Zuma wishes to change this, but her detractors continue to lie, misquote
and undermine her and her motives. Why, you may ask. Well, I guess a lot of
money is at stake." Teggin, a Jungian analyst, said that five million US
citizens take Prozac annually - including Madonna and Bill Clinton.
Eli Lilly started preparing Lilly Fluoxetine in the run-up to the expiry of
its patent in January. The company also released another identical drug,
Prozyn, which it markets jointly with another South African drug company.
Prozyn sells for the same as Prozac, though Teggin said he could obtain it
for as little as R178,53 in Cape Town.
Eli Lilly said it could not comment on the retail prices of its drugs but
said Prozac's factory price was R147,29 and Lilly Fluoxetine R87,42.
"The revenues from Prozac help fund continuing medical education programmes,
patient support programmes as well as other much needed activities in the
mental health arena, where there is a particular shortage of funding in
South Africa," Eli Lilly added.
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"dwin...@iexpress.net.au"@ozsupermalls.com.au wrote:
>
> In Australia, the patent has run out, we have lovan and zactin as other brand
> names for fluoxetine. These are available for half the price of prozac.
> Diane
>
Sorry to say this is not correct. Zactin; Lovan; and (you forgot) Erocap are
all brand names that Eli Lilly uses to market fluoxetine in australia. In
America, its called prozac...in other countries its called all sorts of
things.
They still hold the patent. Australia has a goverment controlled Theraputic
Group Premium Arrangements (or Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme). The
government has negotiated a very large pre-purchase (or guarantee) to use
this drug in their formulary for a deep discount.
Although, oddly enough, Fluoxetine is excluded from the arrangement....but
paroxetine and sertraline are not......hmmmmmm
winter...@yahoo.com
e HMOs as per previous post.
> finally, has anyone discovered what the chemical name of "lorien" is?
> steve andreski MD
Its the australian brand name for prozac
winter...@yahoo.com
"Derek" <djb...@icon.co.za> wrote:
That company Lennon (or S A Druggists) is in a joint venture with Lilly for
distribution rights to the african sub-continent...along with International
Healthcare (a distribution company set up by Roche, Boehringer, Ciba Geigy and
Sandoz).
Big phamaceutical companies do this in countries where the people (or the
governments) can't afford strong healthcare program. Hand off the operation
to a local company to make a bare bone's cheaper version.
Derek
http://iafrica.com/doconline/qa/fluoxetine.htm
andreski wrote in message ...
> if i understand the FDA requirement correctly, it's that the generic
>manufacturer must show that a certain percentage of the drug is
>"bio-available", that is that it shows up in the blood of those who take
it.
>this generally has to do with use of different fillers, how the pill is
>formed and pressed,....
>...... finally, has anyone discovered what the chemical name of "lorien"
is?
> steve andreski MD
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