Crazy cures for stuttering no 1
David Beards
Take elocution lessons! Apparantly put 2 marbles in your mouth, and practice
saying words, then complete sentences. Apparently he was a stutterer years
ago and this cured him! Unbelievable!!!!!
Don H.
from them would cure my stuttering. I guess such a cure would be considered
the ultimate complement to their dance ability.
Don
David Beards
that I become quite fluent talking to my lover in the 'afterglow' of
sex.......shame it doesn't last long!
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Peter Cremasco
Been there. Done that. Didn't get the t-shirt.
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Gall520
Ted Emery at the Emery Institute for Stammerers writes of Demothenes and
pebbles...He says it isn't the pebbles that cure you but the mental control it
brings you (combined with the practice in talking. I'm taking the Emery
Technique at www.stutter.com and am seeing amazing results. I get more and more
fluent as the weeks go on!!!
Alex Godden
>A resident at the aged nursing home where I work told me this one......
>Take elocution lessons! Apparantly put 2 marbles in your mouth, and practice
>saying words, then complete sentences. Apparently he was a stutterer years
>ago and this cured him! Unbelievable!!!!!
That story is a bit long in the tooth! Demosthenes, born 384 or 383 BC
became a great orator although he was a stutterer when he a child. He
made himself a 'tolerable' speaker by speaking with pebbles in his
mouth "he tried his lungs against the waves". He also declaimed (held
forth like an actor or orator) while running uphill.
Marbles can be too small and swallowable. But before we jeer and
deride the method, let us try it ourselves. Anyone willing to try it?
Wash a couple of stones about 15mm diameter, put them in your mouth
and read a page of a book. Better still try to make yourself
understood by a friend or your spouse. Do it! And then tell me the
result. Then try to explain it.
Robert Graves in his book "I Claudius" gives Claudius (born 41 AD) a
stutter. "As for my stammer . . . Athenodorus [Claudius's tutor] made
me declaim with my mouth full of pebbles; in trying to overcome the
obstruction of the pebbles I forgot about the stammer and then the
pebbles were removed one at a timeuntil noe remained, and I found to
my surprise that I could speak as well as anyone. But only in
declamations. In ordinary conversation I still stammered badly." But
Claudius was a fairly good and persuasive orator; there seem to be no
records of him fumbling, blocking or 'mm-ing' his way through
speeches.
I don't believe this can 'cure' the stutter on its own, but explain to
me the pebbles worked so. Is there nothing to learn from it?
Speak freely, with resonance and confidence,
Alex Godden,
of Oxford, UK.
Alex Godden
>Take elocution lessons! Apparantly put 2 marbles in your mouth, and practice
>saying words, then complete sentences.
Here's another. Take a pencil and put it across your mouth, gripping
it firmly with the teeth. Now hold a conversation with a friend or
your spouse. Make sure they can understand you - the reason why I said
"hold a conversation".
Tell me what happens to your stutter. Try to explain the result to me.
This was a method used by a famous Scots vaudeville comedian and
singer, Harry Lauder. He had a rich, somewhat racous voice on stage,
but no sign of a stutter.
I also think that this is how Churchill developed those growling
vowels, and avoided the hard consonants.
A variation of this used to be in Mrs Beeton's book of cookery and
household management. But, in that she recommended that stuttering
children should be encouraged to speak through clenched teeth.
Again don't jeer; no derision. Try it and see hear the effect. Then
explain it to me. You might find out that you correct some part of
your speech function and it reduces your stutter. If it does, then you
can work out why. You might learn something that no speech, language
pathologist or speech therapist has ever told you. And you won't have
to pay kilobucks for the information.
Peter Cremasco
wrote:
>Women who dance for a living (i.e. topless) have often said a "table dance"
>from them would cure my stuttering. I guess such a cure would be considered
>the ultimate complement to their dance ability.
That, I suspect, is an old myth perpetuated by movies such as "A Fish
Called Wanda". As if sex cures all ills.
Paul
<film...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Women who dance for a living (i.e. topless) have often said a "table dance"
> from them would cure my stuttering. I guess such a cure would be considered
> the ultimate complement to their dance ability.
>
Went to Show Girls on Saturday night, but not even a private dance did the
trick ;-)
cheers
paul
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Gen koala
>>ago and this cured him! Unbelievable!!!!!
no, i found the perfect cure
first take two tablespoons of pickle juice (the stuff from the pickle jar),
onerotten banana, oneteaspoon chocolate syrup and blend them together
drink while standing on your right foot
then cross dress for the opposite gender and chant "j'ai parlé et je parle" 5
times fast while sticking fingers in your mouth"
j/k......ever read freckle juice?
there is nothing wrong with stuttering....at all
W.G.F. Snijders
Look for Barbara Dahm on the Internet. You will find her on the "on-line
conference on stuttering." I just completed a first course by her in coping
with stuttering that really changed my point of view. You will like her
approach.
http://www.mankato.msus.edu/dept/comdis/isad/isadcon.html
Willem Snijders
Stuttering therapist/ speech therapist
The Netherlands
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>"David Beards" <dav...@bigpond.com> wrote:
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>>Take elocution lessons! Apparantly put 2 marbles in your mouth, and
practice
>>saying words, then complete sentences.
>
Mb1102
success?
Mark
David Beards
Mb1102 wrote in message <19981017100512...@ng141.aol.com>...
Elocution is basically learning to talk 'posh'.
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Gen koala <genk...@aol.com> wrote in article
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> >rantly put 2 marbles in your mouth, and practice
i've stuttered all my live, and i must disagree
stuttering makes me shy, so shy that if somebody makes fun of me at school,
then i just don't reply
because i don't reply, i don't tell them to shut up, so they keep making
fun of me more and more and they can say anything that they want to because
they know i won't do anything about it. I'd like to tell them to shut the
f--- up, and then whack them on the knee with a lead pipe, but they're way
too big and they could kick my @$$.
Amanda J. Carrington
Peter Cremasco <wild...@fan.net.au> wrote:
>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:48:33 GMT, "Don H." <film...@bellsouth.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Women who dance for a living (i.e. topless) have often said a "table dance"
>>from them would cure my stuttering. I guess such a cure would be considered
>>the ultimate complement to their dance ability.
>
>Called Wanda". As if sex cures all ills.
The myth perpetuated in "A Fish Called Wanda" is that a shock can cure
stuttering. Michael Palin's character is fluent after running somebody over
with a steamroller - if I remember correctly.
Amanda
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Gen koala
>then i just don't reply
>because i don't reply, i don't tell them to shut up, so they keep making
>fun of me more and more and they can say anything that they want to because
>they know i won't do anything about it. I'd like to tell them to shut the
>f--- up, and then whack them on the knee with a lead pipe, but they're way
>too big and they could kick my @$$.
deal with it, if you werent a stutter the kids would make fun of you for some
other reason. god, people are dying or cancer and starvation and you are mad
because you are stuttering. look at the big picture. kids are mean..it's not
the end of the world.
Marty Leisner
I think Jack Paar also did that...
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The Feynman problem solving Algorithm
1) Write down the problem
2) Think real hard
3) Write down the answer
Murray Gell-mann in the NY Times
Vannas
I'm not so sure this is good advice for people who stutter. Stuttering is far
more complex than putting a pencil in your mouth. This is propbably why
doctors, researchers, neuroscientists and speech pathologists laboring for
years and years have yet to come up with a definitive treatment.
But hey, if it works for you, go for it. But beware.
Peter Nicks
Alex Godden
I did not say that you should go around speaking with a pencil in your
mouth for everyday conversational speech. It would create its own
relational problems. But this can be used to demonstrate to yourself
that you need NOT Stutter. Most PWS don't under the conditions I
described. It can be used to strengthen one's vocalisation (phonation)
which is one of the chief problems of a stutter. And as I relate,
Harry Lauder used it to strengthen his vocalisation, and became
admired for his rich, resonant Scots voice on vaudeville. He practiced
in private and didn't stutter on stage, ever. Also, most stage actors
use oral bones or jaw props to achieve the same result.
So try it and hold a conversation with someone you can trust who knows
it is a trial and won't laugh at you. If you don't stutter, as most
won't, then explain to yourself why; if you can't explain it then ask
me again. What are you frightened of? It can't hurt you; you will be
using your usual voice without any extra fluency enhancing tricks.
>doctors, researchers, neuroscientists and speech pathologists
>laboring for years and years have yet to come up with a definitive
>treatment.
Those highly paid professionals and expensive therapists have gotten
fewer than one percent of their clients to drop their stutters,
sometimes after 30 years of therapy and many thousands of bucks.
When will they come up with a efficacious treatment. Two of the men
whose therapies are most used and almost guarantee that you will
retain your stutters died with their stutter on their lips,
unrecovered.
Why do you have such faith in their abilities to find a solution to
your stutter?
There is nothing to be 'ware of. Don't be frightened to try. Set out
now to find ways of improving your speaking voice.
Speak freely, with resonance and confidence,
Alex Godden,
of Oxford, UK.
Tom Comiskey
I've done a bunch of speech therapy, and only in recent years have I truly
"come to grips" with my stuttering.
My favorite aunt, God rest her soul, tried to get me to put a penny under my
tongue.
I have no idea what the hell her rationale was, but Aunt Marge thought it
would have helped my speech.
Vannas wrote in message <19981112143749...@ng153.aol.com>...
Ishna
philosopher who also had a stutter/stammer and went to the beach, filled his
mouth with rocks and would shout and sing to the ocean and as a result
overcame his communications deficiency!!
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