A Quick One
Ian Rastall
1. Positive thinking is important
2. Stress is a good wrestler
Will stay here, if that's all right.
Hope all are well.
Ian
--
I would like to be the air
that inhabits you for a moment
only. I would like to be that unnoticed
and that necessary. (Margaret Atwood)
DavidL
Yeah.... you stay here, think positively and practice your wrestling
moves.
Mark Earnest
"Ian Rastall" <rasta...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1hb5yafbd8lp2$.1qrsdah8qhkef.dlg@40tude.net...
> Okay, that quit didn't last long. Lessons learned:
>
> 1. Positive thinking is important
> 2. Stress is a good wrestler
>
> Will stay here, if that's all right.
>
> Hope all are well.
> Ian
Get your mind off of it, too. That is a good wrestler.
Rent a movie, play checkers, do a doodle art.
I'm sure you know what to do.
Mark
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PolarBear
> Okay, that quit didn't last long. Lessons learned:
>
> 1. Positive thinking is important
> 2. Stress is a good wrestler
>
> Will stay here, if that's all right.
>
yep stay here. This is a good place to be.
You are so right about the positive thinking, its hard to do but if
you can change negatie thought into positive thought it will help you
in general not only in your quit
HappyPolarBear
Ian Rastall
> yep stay here. This is a good place to be.
I hope so, Carmen. It's hard to tell what people mean when they speak, and
it's nice to know that you're there, because for some reason I trust that
you're sincere.
> You are so right about the positive thinking, its hard to do but if
> you can change negatie thought into positive thought it will help you
> in general not only in your quit
It reminds me of my friend Lisa, in two ways. She thinks positive harder
than anyone I know. (Her diagnosis is paranoid schizophrenia.) She has gone
back to college year after year. She always ends up freaking out, getting
put in the hospital, and into a group home ... then she re-emerges, jumps
right back in, and ... well, right now she's back in college, I believe
majoring in chemical engineering. Amazing, amazing person.
The other way it reminds me of her is that she told me once, in tears, that
my hope of "solving" mental illness was ill-founded, because once a
neuropathway (or whatever) (*she's* the scientist, not me) gets set, it's
set for good. This was her reason for thinking, at least at that moment of
despair, that she could never beat the disease. It's something that keeps
coming back, in the thoughts of beating the disasters at my feet.
In other words, how much of what we think and feel is hard-wired? Not to
say, in any way, that giving up addictions is ... something I must talk
about later, as my cousin is here. :-)
Sue
wrote:
>Okay, that quit didn't last long. Lessons learned:
>
>1. Positive thinking is important
>2. Stress is a good wrestler
>
>Will stay here, if that's all right.
>
>Hope all are well.
>Ian
I haven't been following your quit(s) so I may be speaking out of
turn. I wonder if you are truly committed to it. Do by all means
keep trying, but perhaps you need a little more dedication. Quitting,
as you know, is an easy thing to do, but staying quit is extremely
difficult for most people and is an ongoing process.
Keep trying and I hope someday to see you in a long term relationship
with being smoke free.
Sue
Three years, eight months, one day, 1 hour, 24 minutes and 31 seconds.
44287 cigarettes not smoked, saving $7,374.17. Life saved: 21 weeks, 6
days, 18 hours, 35 minutes.
FlatIronMike
NOT SMOKING. What we all have to learn is how to live a smober life.
Many, if not all of us, put a lot of our feelings into sickerettes and
avoided dealing with them until we lost that crutch. That can be
scary and wild at first as you have to learn new coping skills, but
you can do it. The good thing is that as you learn these skills you
gain more confidence in living smober so that each day when you wake
up you can just say that you will not smoke for 'just today' and go on
with your life. The more you do that the less you focus on smoking as
that is definitely a trigger for most of us, especially at the point
where you are newly smober.
It is not an easy process but one that can be done and YOU can do it!
FlatironMike
Two years, nine months, one week, four days, 5 hours, 17 minutes and
16 seconds. 20304 cigarettes not smoked, saving $6,091.32. Life saved:
10 weeks, 12 hours, 0 minutes.
PolarBear
nicely said Mike, and so true.
I know I did that, hiding behind feelings when I smoked, thats why I
am having such hard time to stay quit. For me its not and never was
the initial qut. The initail quit is excting, everything is new ...
but to maintain it is difficult for me.
I realized that SteveS was right (even so I didn't know at that time)
that my quit is going well until BP flares up. So my focus is not so
much on not smoking my focus but it is more on controlling the moods.
I know by now that if I keep that stupid mood disorder under control I
will also be able to maintian my quit. And someone pleasse remind me
and kick my ass if I ever try to turn and say other wise.
ODAT - works perfectly for me so far. I know everyone recommends it
and I always believed I was doing it but I wasn't I was reaching
further ahead. e.g. trying to get to OF, and than when I felt
depressed my mind would tell me that I am never going to make it and
so I didn't. Now, I just know its only for one day, and even when
feeling down it helps to know that I promised not to smoke today just
today, if I want to smoke I can do it the next day frist thing in the
morning.
I know my response to you is long Mike, but I am also hoping that Ian
reads it and it may help him too.
/me sends Mike a hug and says thank you for all his support. you are a
wonderful Gnom :)
HappyPolarBear
PolarBear
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:28:58 -0800 (PST), PolarBear wrote:
> > yep stay here. This is a good place to be.
>
> I hope so, Carmen. It's hard to tell what people mean when they speak, and
> it's nice to know that you're there, because for some reason I trust that
> you're sincere.
Ian, I believe is one of the symptomes of BP to have a trust issue,
but not everyone is bad, there are people you can trust and AS3 is
full of people to trust. We all have one common goal and this is help
each other to either stop smoking or if we already did to hellp and
support each other to maintain a quit. Unless you start insulting or
attacking anyone in the group no one will tell you to leave. Otherwise
I would have been gone long ago
>
>
> It reminds me of my friend Lisa, in two ways. She thinks positive harder
> than anyone I know. (Her diagnosis is paranoid schizophrenia.) She has gone
> back to college year after year. She always ends up freaking out, getting
> put in the hospital, and into a group home ... then she re-emerges, jumps
> right back in, and ... well, right now she's back in college, I believe
> majoring in chemical engineering. Amazing, amazing person.
Wow, that sounds so much like me, falling down ending up in the
hospital, getting up back on my feeds and fighting for a better life
again. I am at college too and hope I get through the semester without
ending up in the hospital. :)
>
> The other way it reminds me of her is that she told me once, in tears, that
> my hope of "solving" mental illness was ill-founded, \
yep it is right, BP is not curable, but it is treatable. It can be
controlled. Its not the illness that should control you, YOU must
control the illness. Sometimes it is very diffficult to do,
espeacially when manic and the mind acts up and forgets the danger of
the high. or when so depressed that all the mind is saying how
worthless life is, how lonely life is and that people like me should
not have friendsss. but I guess you know this train of thought as well
as I do. But over time I learned, and I am still learning that good
friends can help and support. Good friends will not allow you to push
them away when you need them the most. They will be there. I hope you
have a friend like that, someone you trust and someone who is helping
you no matter in which mood you are.
HappyPolarBear
AZ
Bruce Watson
Sue <seb...@thegrid.net> wrote:
>I wonder if you are truly committed to it.
He is if he has gotten rid of his pipes.
FlatIronMike
Ian. Learning how to let smobriety be a one day at a time event is
not as easy as we say although we say it all the time. The Perfect
Person in me is always saying I can NEVER get it right so why try but
I know to smack him down and go live my life, usually more
successfully that I would have imagined in the first place. You are
right, any disease is a PITA but you have to rise above it and be who
you are as YOU are not a disease. When that gets into one's noodle
the empowerment can begin.
/me waves to Carmen and looks for some honey...
FlatironMike
Two years, nine months, one week, four days, 14 hours, 7 minutes and
42 seconds. 20311 cigarettes not smoked, saving $6,093.53. Life saved:
10 weeks, 12 hours, 35 minutes.
Ian Rastall
> over time I learned, and I am still learning that good friends can help
> and support. Good friends will not allow you to push them away when you
> need them the most. They will be there. I hope you have a friend like
> that, someone you trust and someone who is helping you no matter in
> which mood you are.
Yes, I have someone like that. And I do appreciate the way this group has
put themselves out there to help others, and each other. I hope, in time,
that I can find the strength to commit to this fully.
DutchVanAfoort
www.cognitivequitting.com and think about the possibilities
of NRT and or zyban/welbutrin. But really Ian, read, read
and read some more. You're not alone in this and when you
read here long enough you'll see more people freak out a bit
when quitting. Read a bit longer and you'll see a lot of these
people manage to quit once they get used to the idea of
quitting. Try not to make the same mistakes twice and keep
tweaking till you found what works for you.
"Ian Rastall" <> schreef in bericht ...
Ian Rastall
> Try not to make the same mistakes twice and keep
> tweaking till you found what works for you.
Thanks, man. I'm workin' on it. Right now the tobak tastes pretty good, and
I'm liking not having to worry about the quit, but it's not a long-term
thing. My lungs *hurt*. The kind of hurt I'm not used to. Something serious
is afoot, unless I can kick. (That was almost a pun!)
Gotta run. Hope all are well.