Bad news
DougInKY
started smoking again. Bummer. I am going to set a quit date and rejoin
the quit list as soon as I can get my head wrapped around what happened.
Please take it as gospel when someone tells you that you will be just
one puff away from smoking again. I thought I was strong enough to have
just one. It didn't work. I am soooo depressed about this I could almost
cry. Please please don't take that first puff. I now realize that I am
addicted to tobacco. Just like a drinker is addicted to alcohol.
I have to start my quit all over. I am not sure how I am going to do
this. To make things worse I have heart disease, diabetes, Rheumatoid
Arthritis and COPD.
Please pray for me. Please.
Doug in Kentucky
Wayne Baker
ObYG2bXnZ2d...@insightbb.com:
Oh Doug.....
Prayers and thoughts coming your way.
Now...for how to do this....don't touch a ciggy...don't pick it
up....don't put it to your lips...and don't inhale the poison. That's
how. You listed at least 4 reasons why you should be highly motivated to
quit again. Do it. Now. Please.
---
Wayne Baker (who has blown too many quits)
Smoke Free: 1m 2w 3d 13:07
Not Smoked: 1,388
$ Better Spent: $319.24
msmomo2u
You had been quit for 8 years?
And now you are asking for support?
After you took a puff and started again?
Um. I have a real hard time with your
story.
PolarBear
I am so sorry to hear about your smoking. Please quit soon again. As
sooner as you quit as easier it will be. Don't let your body get used
to the addiction and change your behaviour to accomondate smoking. You
have been quit for 8 years that is a long long time, you can do it
again.
maybe looking at what happened and how it happens can help to prevent
it from happening again.
HappyPolarBear
PolarBear
> After you took a puff and started again?
why should he not ask for support?????
to break a quit like this is terrible and it takes a lot of effort and
courage to get back on the wagon.
is this support group only for newbies, people who just recently quit?
> Um. I have a real hard time with your
> story.
something most have gone terrible wrong that a long year quitter
starts smoking again and it is just showing that we will never be save
no matter how long we are quit, the moment we decide to have one its
the moment were most of us would fall rigth back into the addiction.
I am glad Dough knew where to go for support and he is at the right
place.
HappyPolarBear
DougInKY
I don't understand why you have a hard time with my story. I have been a
proud member up here for years. Check the AS3 quit lists. I made a
terrible mistake. Why are you giving me a hard time for that?
Doug in Kentucky
msmomo2u
>
> - Show quoted text -
I support you Doug. And I'm glad you came back here. I am just
doubting my ownself right now.
Good luck to you.
I fuck up every day.
Peace Out.
Suzie.
DavidM
> You had been quit for 8 years?
> And now you are asking for support?
> After you took a puff and started again? Um. I have a real hard time
> with your story.
Sorry msmomo,
I find I'm not able right now to jump on the guy. Yes, he totally fucked
it up. But it just goes to show how subtle and sneaky the nicodemon can
be, how vulnerable and frail our quit can be, and how we relax at our
peril.
If there's any good in the story, it's the example Doug has set of
vulnerability, reminding us all how we need to remain ever vigilant.
Doug - go to your doctor and ask him/her to prescribe you everything
psychoactive you can get your hands on. Or don't. Whatever - get back to
NOPE (Not One Puff, Ever).
Then, do an audit of the moods and thoughts that led you up to the
breach, and figure out how you could prevent that in future.
Cheers
Dave
--
Non-smoker for 1 year, 1 month, 2 weeks, 4 days, 20 hours, 39 minutes and
8 seconds
Cigarettes avoided: 5794, Money saved: $2263.28
Life Saved: 2 weeks, 6 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes and 14 seconds
DougInKY
I am 58 years old and my health is failing me. I felt as if I had given
up everything I enjoyed in my life. Smoking, an occasional drink, and
due to me taking steroids for years, even my sex life. I gained 130
pounds in a year after I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis and
went on large doses of Steroids. I hurt (a lot) every day, pain is my
constant companion and according to my docs this will not change. It
just all got to me and I was pretty depressed about it all. I was almost
ready to just chuck it all in and kill myself. I decided that rather
than taking that final option that "what the hell" I would just try
smoking again. Even though in hindsight it was not a good choice
although it was a better choice than killing myself abd it gave me some
control about what was going on in my life. One good thing about all
this is that I have already lost 20 pounds since I started smoking
again. Not sure I know why but this is the only good thing that has come
out of me restarting. I do feel emotionally better, I guess because I
took some action, even it it was by smoking.
I am sorry if some members here find this hard to deal with but I need
you all. ASSS is how I quit the first time and I felt as if this is
where I needed to come to get this smoking thing out of my life again.
Thanks for listening,
Doug in Kentucky
PolarBear
>
> - Show quoted text -
Doug thanks for sharing.
I to well understand what you mean. I was/am sick and broke a three
year quit, smoked for a year, was quit for ten month and smoked again,
now I am quit for a week and still fighting the addiction. But I
learned tha its an illusion that smoking can make me feel better. It
did make me feel better but this was temporary. Than I got used to
smoking and thngs just went back and forth.
I can't promise to stay quit, I am just happy if I get through from
one day to the other. But I can promise you that you will have my
support in your quit. It can be done. :)
HappyPolarBear
Mark Earnest
"DougInKY" <m...@privacy.com> wrote in message
news:adadnd-544KPBWbX...@insightbb.com...
I know it seems like smoking and alcohol and wild random sex are
going to make it all work the way it's supposed to, but they are
illusion type fulfillments.
Only you can make life real, though, by a lot of soul searching
and figuring out what you really are all about. Improve what you
are, and maybe at least the sex will come back your way...
Maybe just go to the library and figure out what you really like.
Mark
tof
msmomo2u
>
> - Show quoted text -
That's where this internet sucks. Yet It's a good thing to 'connect'
with people without meeting face to face. I'm sorry for jumping on you
Doug. It's very difficult to have a human dialogue here one on one.
Pretty frustrating for me. And words and meaning get distorted. Alot.
Peace to you. I meant you no harm. I am very sorry. I'm just one of
those people who blurts things out as I see them and feel them.
Right or wrong. It's just me.
Maybe I should just be neutral, no opinions or feelings. No
reaction...
Placate. hm. maybe so. Play middle of the game.
My best.
Peace
Suzie
DougInKY
Mark, I understand what you are saying. My illness has changed my life.
I was medically retired in 2002. Prior to this I was always a active
person. I hiked, backpacked, played racketball, and was a runner (I
know, a oxymoron a runner who smoked). I served 8 and 1/2 years in the
Marines. I love motorcycles, both riding and working on them and have
since I was 15. I was a Emergency Nurse (R.N.) and loved my work. In
short I was an adrenaline junkie. Now, I read and use my computer. My
wife and I got a 250cc motor scooter as I had reached to point that I
couldn't mount and dismount my touring bike most days but this past
summer I didn't even ride it much as I didn't feel good enough to. It
has been hard for me to accept that most of the things I have always
loved doing were no longer and option for me. I am trying to find new
things I enjoy doing as I have never watched television much or done
things that did not require me being active. It is not easy for me to
read about people doing the things I want to do myself.
I have turned to meditation and "helping" a close friend to work on his
motorcycles. I sit and watch, hand him tools, and keep him company. I
feel that I will work though all of this, but it isn't easy.
Doug in Kentucky
DougInKY
>
> That's where this internet sucks. Yet It's a good thing to 'connect'
> with people without meeting face to face. I'm sorry for jumping on you
> Doug. It's very difficult to have a human dialogue here one on one.
> Pretty frustrating for me. And words and meaning get distorted. Alot.
> Peace to you. I meant you no harm. I am very sorry. I'm just one of
> those people who blurts things out as I see them and feel them.
> Right or wrong. It's just me.
> Maybe I should just be neutral, no opinions or feelings. No
> reaction...
> Placate. hm. maybe so. Play middle of the game.
> My best.
> Peace
>
> Suzie
Suzie, I understand. It is hard to tell when someone is being genuine
when you can't see them.
Opinions and feelings are a big part of what makes this group what it
is. I don't want or need bad karma for making you feel bad. Please keep
being the person you are. Occasionally something like this will happen,
but it is all set straight now.
Peace back at you,
Doug in Kentucky
Mark Earnest
That sounds like fun, to help work on a motorcycle.
When you help someone, I have found, you can see yourself
in them just a little bit better, and the benefits come right back.
But is seems you already knew that.
And good job in the Marines. We all owe you a debt it may take all time
to repay. You know all about serving. :)
Mark
tof
Sally
blowing our own quits. The last quit I blew was just two
years....this one right now is going on five years. My prayers and
thoughts are with you as you gain the strength to get a new quit going
again. You've come to the right place for support.
Sally
eightpans
Sorry to hear about you plight Doug...jump aboard mate....you can do
it.... You can only do what you can do in life IMHO and use what you
have to the best.... come on mate...it will get better...baby steps..
Regards Chris
DutchVanAfoort
>I do feel emotionally better, I guess because I took some action, even it
>it was by smoking.
you wrote made so much sense Doug.
While trying to figure out why I've ever picked up smoking I've often
thought that as young people we like to think we're invincible. We act
like we are by putting ourselves at risk and put our bodies through the
worst abuse. Sometimes it's like the more we put ourselves through,
the stronger we appear to be. I know it's a bit of a brainfart, but being
an adrenaline junkie you might understand what I mean. So when you're in
a situation you just described, it's not that hard to come up with a
scenario
in which your brain makes you believe it might be a good idea to pick up
smoking again. Not even as a slow form of suicide, but as a way to try and
feel a bit more like your old invincible self again. - Damn, how about that
for some living room psychology psychobabble? <dumb grin> - I hope
it makes some sense. Guess what I'm trying to say is don't beat yourself up
about slipping too much.
Problem here, as you undoubtedly know very well yourself. Is that
you want to stay the hell away from pumping pollutants in your body
if you're diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, heart disease and COPD.
So please start your quit as soon as possible Doug and start reclaiming
your smoke free life. You've been there, so you know what's ahead.
You have proof you can do this. We'll be here when you need some
encouragement or a kick inna butt.
Glad you found your way back,
Robin.
"DougInKY" <> schreef in bericht ...
SteveS
done is done. You start a new quit by making a new commitment and then
doing whatever you need to do to see it through.
SteveS
OOF
Kathleen
really bad thoughts and smoked instead. For me it was one night 18mo into
my quit that I don't mention very often, and I never went back to smoking.
I have also seen my husband go through a good bit of self-pity now that his
health is paying him back for the way he has treated himself all these
years. He had to quit smoking or quit walking and the changes he has made
in his life were not without some (natural - normal) major emotional lows.
For a while I didn't think we would make it through it, together. He still
drinks and I worry about his liver but I can't imagine what would happen if
he had to give that up.
I read something in another group the other day that just resonated with me.
It was:
"Most people like to be recognized and sometimes when they feel or believe
they are not getting it, then they will shop, etc. to try to get that need
to be fulfilled. It isn't the shopping or other activities that do the
fulfilling as much as the interaction with other people and their actions in
meeting that need.
It all goes back to the Maslow Hierarchy of Needs, which basically states a
higher need cannot be adequately fulfilled until the lower needs are met.
Supposedly the Hierarch of Needs is the motivation behind most of what we
do. "
That's very profound to me. It was like that when I quit smoking. I had come
to associate smoking with relaxation, feeling good, calm, rational, and on
and on and on... unbelievably! When I quit smoking I had to evaluate why I
wanted to smoke and then face the lie that I was believing that made me
think I might want to smoke.
I don't know if that is helpful, but I just wanted to throw it in there.
We are behind you!!!
With hope and heart,
Kathleen
AZ
I hope you overcome your health problems. This is a great reason to
hop on the wagon again.
You know, there is no shame in falling down. The shame is in the
staying down. You already promised yourself that you are going to
quit again. So, don't wait any longer. Make it happen now. You know
how...you've been there.
Good luck to you. I will be rooting for you and looking forward to
seeing a new meter grow...
AZ
kestrel
Dear Doug, first of all don't beat yourself up over this. You've got
enough to worry about without allowing the Nicodemon to rule your
life. Yes, you need to start all over again, but you will be starting
with the certain knowledge that you have quit successfully before and
held onto your quit for 8 years. That, indeed, is something to be
proud of. Your physical condition pretty much demands that you
reinstall your quit. Realize that all of us here are addicted to
nicotine, no matter how long we have been quit. And we are here to
support you, to cheer you on your way, to help you up when you have
fallen, and maybe even to supply a few laughs from time to time.
I had a long and fruitless record of serial quitting and falling on my
face, time after time. I had begun to believe that I could never stop
smoking. I smoked from my teens, year after year. I was smoking at
least a pack and a half a day. I smoked at work; those were the days
before smoking was banned in most workplaces. At one point I worked
for an ad agency for a few major cigarette brands. Smoking seemed so
normal. From time to time, I would make an effort to quit, or at
least to cut back. But I could not seem to sustain living without a
cigarette dangling from my lips.
I am lucky, I guess, not to have developed serious smoking-related
illnesses. I do have a touch of emphysema but not as badly as one of
my old smoking buddies. She needs to use an inhaler and can hardly
walk anywhere.
To cut a long story short, when I got computer-connected some years
back, I went to my local book store and looked for some kind of book
that would clue me in on what was available on the Internet. I found
something called The Internet Yellow Pages and in it I found AS3
alt.support-stopsmoking. I raced home and hooked onto this wonderful
site. And never looked back.
I am awed by your story. You need to be here every day. You will
find us the most encouraging and helpful place for anyone who is
fighting to stay alive and without a cigarette. I too have arthritis
but not Rheumatoid Arthritis which I understand is very painful I
wish I had some of my old posts from when I was ranting and raving
here in the early stages of my quit. It sure helped me keep to my
resolve to get free of the addiction. As you so correctly stated,
smoking is an addiction and one of the most difficult to beat. But we
are here to help you beat it out of your system and into the ground.
Guess I have rambled on for long enough, but your story really touched
my heart. Pick yourself up, Doug, and get back where you belong --
one of the army of quitters who have fought the good fight and keep
on fighting it. It's never finished. You will always need to be wary
and never take your quit for granted.
I was talking on the phone to my older son this morning; he calls me
several times a week when he is driving to work. We were talking
about having my apartment repainted. And I tried to remember the last
time I had it done. My dear cat, Mimi, was just a kitten and I had
just recently stopped smoking. But the walls of my home were toasty
brown from years of my smoking. So getting the paint job done was
another incentive to staying quit. I like to boast that Mimi has
always lived in a smoke-free home and I just looked up her birthday
yesterday. She was born on June 6, 1998. And I quit smoking on
November 20, 1997. I never thought I would make it this far. I still
marvel at how normal not smoking has become. But I will never, ever
take it for granted. I know how bad I would feel if I ever picked up
and smoked another cigarette. I don't even know where to buy them
anymore. I guess drugstores still sell them, and those little
newspaper/magazine shops that dot the landscape here in New York
City.
Be brave, Doug. Jump back on the NO SMOKE express. We will haul you
aboard and help you conquer.
Joyce
11 years+
Sue
Doug, it's a hard lesson to learn. It took me blowing an 8 year quit
and several 2 year quits to finally get the message.
Due to your health issues you know that it's imperative that you jump
back on the wagon. ASAP. We'll be here for you.
Sue
DavidL
Best way for you to quit would probably be IMMEDIATELY.
The silver lining,,,,,, your story will probably keep many from taking
that first puff.
I look forward to seeing you name pop up here often.
Eldon
Doug, I hope you are off the steroids by now. They do mess people up
somewhat, though of course, the alternative is worse. Stay strong, and
check out the latest research on your condition to see if there's
anything you think might be worth trying.
FlatIronMike
longer] quit but I am glad that you are back here to get back on the
track to smobriety. I am as much a cereal quitter as anyone here and
I do agree that there is NEVER just one out there that is magic and
won't fuck up your quit. I think what happens is that while the first
one never tastes good at all, the addiction by then is in smoke heaven
and tells you well, 'the next one will be THE ONE' so light up. By
then your mind is falling apart as you lose your sense of being a
smober person and for many of us, the towel is then thrown in.
Hang tuff and get your mind wrapped around the joys of smobriety
again. As I always tell folk, take a good long look at the FAQs we
keep at www.quitbuddies.org as there may well be something there that
just sticks in your head this time that makes your new quit work. I
especially find reading the Junkie Thinking section powerful. If your
head is not bobbing up and down in agreement by the time you have read
through that list, do it again as I really feel that it nails our
addiction in so few words.
So, welcome and get your date set and read and post with us as you
know we are all here to help each other!
FlatironMike
Two years, nine months, one day, 15 hours, 17 minutes and 8 seconds.
20112 cigarettes not smoked, saving $6,033.82. Life saved: 9 weeks, 6
days, 20 hours, 0 minutes.
DDJacque
> After being on the quit list for 8 years I have fallen off the wagon and
> started smoking again. Bummer. I am going to set a quit date and rejoin
> the quit list as soon as I can get my head wrapped around what happened.
>
> Please take it as gospel when someone tells you that you will be just
> one puff away from smoking again. I thought I was strong enough to have
> just one. It didn't work. I am soooo depressed about this I could almost
> cry. Please please don't take that first puff. I now realize that I am
> addicted to tobacco. Just like a drinker is addicted to alcohol.
>
> I have to start my quit all over. I am not sure how I am going to do
> this. To make things worse I have heart disease, diabetes, Rheumatoid
> Arthritis and COPD.
>
> Please pray for me. Please.
>
> Doug in Kentucky
Wow. I'm sorry to hear of your slip, Doug. Thanks for sharing with
the group, however. This is a lesson I certainly can never ever take
for granted. I try always to remember that I'm only one puff away
from a pack a day. We're here when you're ready. Good luck!
DDJacque
OOF
Tihomir
>After being on the quit list for 8 years I have fallen off the wagon and
>started smoking again. Bummer. I am going to set a quit date and rejoin
>the quit list as soon as I can get my head wrapped around what happened.
>
>Please take it as gospel when someone tells you that you will be just
>one puff away from smoking again. I thought I was strong enough to have
>just one. It didn't work. I am soooo depressed about this I could almost
>cry. Please please don't take that first puff. I now realize that I am
>addicted to tobacco. Just like a drinker is addicted to alcohol.
>
>I have to start my quit all over. I am not sure how I am going to do
>this. To make things worse I have heart disease, diabetes, Rheumatoid
>Arthritis and COPD.
>
>Please pray for me. Please.
Greetings Doug and welcome! You probably know all about the available
techniques alredy, so I wish you endless willpower and determination
to defeat the nicodemon once again.
You've done it once, so he has no chance!
Stay with us and we'll stay with you buddy!
Never ever give up! It's just a roll of dry leaves!
--
Tihomir 2Y5M, Knin, HR 44�N 16�E
http://www.quitbuddies.org
Quote 4849 of 9162:
... An ounce of image is worth a pound of performance.
FlatIronMike
you both have given so much to the group for soooo many years! Keep
on kicking butt and being an inspiration to us all!
FlatironMike
Two years, nine months, one day, 17 hours, 32 minutes and 28 seconds.
20114 cigarettes not smoked, saving $6,034.38. Life saved: 9 weeks, 6
days, 20 hours, 10 minutes.
ChrisB
I had your problems I am sure I would do the same.
I greatly admire the way you are handling this by taking up new diversions.
You are obviously a strong man who has had a wobble and I will pray that
your boat will come into a calm sea and you will find peace.
Please keep us updated.
ChrisB
"DougInKY" <m...@privacy.com> wrote in message
news:headnevj-ObYG2bX...@insightbb.com...
> After being on the quit list for 8 years I have fallen off the wagon and
> started smoking again. Bummer. I am going to set a quit date and rejoin
> the quit list as soon as I can get my head wrapped around what happened.
>
> Please take it as gospel when someone tells you that you will be just one
> puff away from smoking again. I thought I was strong enough to have just
> one. It didn't work. I am soooo depressed about this I could almost cry.
> Please please don't take that first puff. I now realize that I am addicted
> to tobacco. Just like a drinker is addicted to alcohol.
>
> I have to start my quit all over. I am not sure how I am going to do this.
> To make things worse I have heart disease, diabetes, Rheumatoid Arthritis
> and COPD.
>
> Please pray for me. Please.
>
> Doug in Kentucky
Mike M
little over two years. If you did a just one, did me in roll call I
think it would scare the hell out of you. Until you learn that its
the last quit and never have the temptation to smoke another your guit
is in danger.
Mike M
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:27:24 -0800 (PST), msmomo2u
<suzmth...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Nov 11, 7:51�pm, DougInKY <m...@privacy.com> wrote:
>> After being on the quit list for 8 years I have fallen off the wagon and
>> started smoking again. Bummer. I am going to set a quit date and rejoin
>> the quit list as soon as I can get my head wrapped around what happened.
>>
>> Please take it as gospel when someone tells you that you will be just
>> one puff away from smoking again. I thought I was strong enough to have
>> just one. It didn't work. I am soooo depressed about this I could almost
>> cry. Please please don't take that first puff. I now realize that I am
>> addicted to tobacco. Just like a drinker is addicted to alcohol.
>>
>> I have to start my quit all over. I am not sure how I am going to do
>> this. To make things worse I have heart disease, diabetes, Rheumatoid
>> Arthritis and COPD.
>>
>> Please pray for me. Please.
>>
>> Doug in Kentucky
>