Sorry for cuttin' out like that
Ian Rastall
it. Cutting back is the answer, and though it's probably not the safest
thing, I'm going back and forth between smoking my pipe and chewing on
nicorettes.
If you could see the way I smoke (dragging on a pipe like it were a big,
filterless cigarette), you would see that I'm compelled to die. That is
some heavy shit. Trying to stop doing that altogether just brought up all
this conflict, and I turned into the world's biggest asshat for a very long
day.
So it's going to take time, and the main goal right now is to gradually
adjust my body chemistry in such a way that I can do it without counting
the hours.
Hope all are well, and savoring a gourmet Autumn breeze,
Ian
--
I would like to be the air
that inhabits you for a moment
only. I would like to be that unnoticed
and that necessary. (Margaret Atwood)
eightpans
You can do this thing as many after me will say Ian. Set your stall
out right. Do not rule out anything that will help your quit...FYI the
recommended time for use on a nasal spray ...my weapon of choice was 3
months.....I used it till 9 months and sometimes till my nose was sore
( I am in NO way recommending this it's just how I did it at the time)
but it got me thru..... FYI I ended up on anti depressants don't shy
from em if you need em...nicotine fucks with your head...a lot of folk
will break that down further for you. If you can do as I have and many
others before me ...well it's not easy and at some point you have to
confront yourself deep down and break the addiction in you...there
lies the rub.... finding how to do it for you.
STOPPING SMOKING IS THE BEST THING YOU WILL EVER DO FOR
YOURSELF .......END OF STORY.
Good Luck
Chris
PolarBear
All the best to you Ian. Once you set your mind to a quit you can do
it.
reducing smokes never workded for me, all I was doing was prolonging
my desire to smoke but I never changed the behaviour. I was more
counting the hours when I reduced the amount of smokes, than as I am
doing now. Craves come and go but they are managable.
HappyPolarBear
Bruce Watson
Ian Rastall <rasta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>So it's going to take time, and the main goal right now is to gradually
>adjust my body chemistry in such a way that I can do it without counting
>the hours.
Doesn't work.
Nicotine does not permit it.
You either quit or you don't.
Wayne Baker
news:raeca3vw5onh$.kckjzbcz...@40tude.net:
> That was a really difficult 22 1/2 hrs. I almost lost my best friend
> over it. Cutting back is the answer, and though it's probably not the
> safest thing, I'm going back and forth between smoking my pipe and
> chewing on nicorettes.
>
> If you could see the way I smoke (dragging on a pipe like it were a
> big, filterless cigarette), you would see that I'm compelled to die.
> That is some heavy shit. Trying to stop doing that altogether just
> brought up all this conflict, and I turned into the world's biggest
> asshat for a very long day.
>
> So it's going to take time, and the main goal right now is to
> gradually adjust my body chemistry in such a way that I can do it
> without counting the hours.
>
> Hope all are well, and savoring a gourmet Autumn breeze,
> Ian
If I really, really, really, REALLY hated someone and wanted them to
suffer to the maximum extent possible, I would recommend that they
gradually cut back smoking. Its a slow torture that would probably be
outlawed by the Geneva Convention. But then, I wouldn't wish that on my
worst of enemies...even my ex-wife.
---
Wayne Baker
Smoke Free: 1m 2w 3d 13:02
Not Smoked: 1,388
$ Better Spent: $319.24
BessieBee
>Cutting back is the answer,
No, it's not.
You need to accept the fact that quitting is not easy. You need to
accept the fact that you'll have to just get through the hard times.
Quitting nicotine is one of the most difficult things I've ever done,
but I can think of nothing else that I've done for myself that is so
rewarding.
After smoking for 35 years I was up to 3 packs per day. The only time
I didn't have a stink stick in my hand was when I was asleep or in the
shower. If I can quit so can you. You really can. You just have to
do it.
--
BessieBee
Leslie
OOF :-)
"My face, I don't mind it because I am behind it.
It's the folks out front that get the jolt."
~My Grandma, 1898-1981~
msmomo2u
Ya well Bessie. I have quit smoking but for the most part I still hate
my life right now. Blah.
PolarBear
>
> - Show quoted text -
((((msmomo))))
would your life feel better if you would be smoking?
hugs to you
HappyPolarBear
msmomo2u
>
> - Show quoted text -
Probably not.
But I still hate my life right now.
Thanks sweetie.
My best to you.
:)
Jef.
>... I'm compelled to die....
We all are. No getting around it.
You don't have to choose the long, hacking, gasping, wasting away kind of
death, though.
>...I turned into the world's biggest asshat for a very long
> day...
It happens. You're actually allowed a homicide or two, your first couple of
weeks. Did you know that?
I, myself, have killed three men. And several rather annoying children.
> So it's going to take time, and the main goal right now is to gradually
> adjust my body chemistry in such a way that I can do it without counting
> the hours.
Yep. There are no extra points awarded for prolonging your agony, Ian. No
higher score for making it harder on yourself. Cold turkey or biting the
bullet ain't for everyone. Use *all* the tools at your disposal. Gum,
patches, Zyban, hypnotism, nicotine suppositories (not sure they actually
make them, but sticking something up your ass is probably less harmful than
smoking...) nasal spray, a chicken stapled to your forehead-- or foreskin.
Anything it takes.
Yeah-- you'll hear: "A quit is only a quit when you quit. Cutting down isn't
a quit...." and so on. True enough, if you keep cutting the amount you smoke
in half-- no matter how far you carry that-- it's still smoking. Doing less
of it is good. It's better than nothing. The goal, of course, is to do
without it altogether. Dragging the process out is painful and often futile.
But start somewhere and keep on trying. EVERYONE here wants to see you
succeed. You know that, right? Believe in yourself and your ability to
defeat a few pinches of dried plant matter wrapped in paper. You're stronger
than any cigarette.
Welcome back. Hang around, eh?
eightpans
Snip
The only time
I didn't have a stink stick in my hand was when I was asleep or in the
shower.
Snip ends
Hey Leslie this reminded me of summat from when I smoked...big
communal shower at work used to take a lit cig in and smoke it while
in the shower obvisously not under the water... but the lads used to
shake their heads at me...what an addict didn't we do some daft shit
eh !
Chris
DutchVanAfoort
what it did is make me realize quitting is not a point in time but
a process. If you choose to cut down, make good use of your
time and find some ways that will make your quit easier when
you're ready for it.
Adjusting your body chemistry is probably done better with a
patch. So you might want to arrange having some for of NRT
ready when you're cut down enough, so you can continue the
process you've put in motion now.
Still suggest you work through: www.cognitivequitting.com
And you might want to check out the possibilities of drugs
like welbutrin or chantix to make your quit better. That and
perhaps a rubber chicken like Jef suggests. In any case, I'm
glad you walked back in Ian. All the best from Holland,
Robin.
"Ian Rastall" <> schreef in bericht ...
DutchVanAfoort
"eightpans" <> schreef in bericht ...
eightpans
Yes mate terrible, I was the sort of smoker that would have 2 one the
go cos I had forgotten about the first one too. The shower smoking
thing, well I would perch the lit cig on a window sill, in the shower
quick, quick dry and straight back to it....what a rotter.....
nicotine or the lack of it makes you do that shit ....not any more
though thank heavens.
Chris
kestrel
>
> - Show quoted text -
That really was kind of daft, Chris. But I remember way back when
used to enjoy a long relaxing bubble bath with a book in my hands and
an ashtray on the rim of the tub. I had pretty much forgotten about
that and I am amazed that I was so addicted that I viewed it as a nice
relaxing thing to do.
Joyce
11 years+
Eldon
Puffing or dragging on a pipe won't cut it. If you want to taper down,
the best method is probably patches.
Is mouth cancer preferable to lung cancer? I sorta doubt it.
DutchVanAfoort
smoking and like Joyce I'd smoke in the bath, but in the
shower??? LOLOL
"eightpans" <> schreef in bericht ...
>
eightpans
Odd I never did the bath/smoking thing. And I do like a red hot bath
spending a bit of time in there soaking but never got the two
associated. It just shows you though how nicotine worms it's way in to
parts of your life. For me it was stress any form and I would be
smoking I had to learn new ways to cope with stress in order to stay
quit. Don't get me started on the daft stuff I have done Joyce we will
be here all night.
Chris
Ian Rastall
> If I really, really, really, REALLY hated someone and wanted them to
> suffer to the maximum extent possible, I would recommend that they
> gradually cut back smoking.
Hey Wayne. I haven't actually been able to. LOL. I tried, but the self just
wants to sit and smoke. I think the answer is to not rely on my friend for
support, so that I don't inadvertantly (sp) drive her away when I'm
quitting.
Hope all are well.
Ian Rastall
> Welcome back. Hang around, eh?
I would like to. I don't think I have the strength to quit today, to be
honest. Just to be honest. But I will stick around if it's all right.
Hope all are well.
Sue
wrote:
>That was a really difficult 22 1/2 hrs. I almost lost my best friend over
>it. Cutting back is the answer, and though it's probably not the safest
>thing, I'm going back and forth between smoking my pipe and chewing on
>nicorettes.
>
>If you could see the way I smoke (dragging on a pipe like it were a big,
>filterless cigarette), you would see that I'm compelled to die. That is
>some heavy shit. Trying to stop doing that altogether just brought up all
>this conflict, and I turned into the world's biggest asshat for a very long
>day.
>
>So it's going to take time, and the main goal right now is to gradually
>adjust my body chemistry in such a way that I can do it without counting
>the hours.
>
>Hope all are well, and savoring a gourmet Autumn breeze,
>Ian
I haven't read the other responses but I'm sure that almost everyone
has told you that the 'cutting down' doesn't work. At any rate, I've
never heard of it doing so.
Sometimes you just need to be brave and tell everyone around you to
have patience or stay away. You can do it!!
Sue
Bruce Watson
Eldon <Eldo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Puffing or dragging on a pipe won't cut it. If you want to taper down,
>the best method is probably patches.
>
>Is mouth cancer preferable to lung cancer? I sorta doubt it.
Lung cancer is hard to detect until it's too late. Oral cancer
can be found by your dentist just by looking.
But they start cutting your face away.
And they don't stop.
But Ian is a cigarette smoker which means he inhales the smoke
from his pipe.
He's killfiled me so he's not reading this.
All of you, please keep reminding him he has to get rid of all
his tobacco, pipes and all paraphernalia to be successful.
Until he does that, he hasn't got a chance.
Eldon
> In article <2d229c7e-89af-45f7-8357-42b1b6093...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >Puffing or dragging on a pipe won't cut it. If you want to taper down,
> >the best method is probably patches.
>
> >Is mouth cancer preferable to lung cancer? I sorta doubt it.
>
> Lung cancer is hard to detect until it's too late. Oral cancer
> can be found by your dentist just by looking.
>
> But they start cutting your face away.
>
> And they don't stop
Are you going Freudian on us, Bruce? If so, I think you're accurate.
Bruce Watson
Wayne Baker <nospamloa...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>If I really, really, really, REALLY hated someone and wanted them to
>suffer to the maximum extent possible, I would recommend that they
>gradually cut back smoking. Its a slow torture that would probably be
>outlawed by the Geneva Convention. But then, I wouldn't wish that on my
>worst of enemies...even my ex-wife.
During one of the daily sessions during my quit, the speaker
told the story of the dog owner who was going to cut off the tail
of his dog (it was that kind of breed). He wanted to be kind
to the dog by sparing it some pain. So he decided to cut the
tail off a little at a time.
FlatIronMike
thread except that you are on a River in Africa: Denial. You either
smoke or you don't. It's that cut and dry and simple. We ALL had
craves and urges in the beginning of our quits but we did work through
them to be smober today. You *CAN* do it as well, but you really have
to get your mindset working on your behalf or you will remain where
you are today. Stuck and smoking. I strongly suggest you spend time
reading the FAQs that we keep at www.quitbuddies.org. You might say
that you have read them before, but this is something you can never
read enough and your life DOES depend on this. Until you can admit to
yourself that you are powerless over nicotine can you make the break
for smobriety.
FlatironMike
Two years, nine months, one day, 14 hours, 59 minutes and 34 seconds.
20112 cigarettes not smoked, saving $6,033.75. Life saved: 9 weeks, 6
days, 20 hours, 0 minutes.
Bruce Watson
Eldon <Eldo...@aol.com> wrote:
>> In article <2d229c7e-89af-45f7-8357-42b1b6093...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> >the best method is probably patches.
>>
>> >Is mouth cancer preferable to lung cancer? I sorta doubt it.
>>
>> Lung cancer is hard to detect until it's too late. Oral cancer
>> can be found by your dentist just by looking.
>>
>> But they start cutting your face away.
>>
>> And they don't stop
>
>Are you going Freudian on us, Bruce? If so, I think you're accurate.
Thirty operations before he committed suicide with morphine.
I can't blame him.
Smoking is the main cause. Combine alcohol with smoking and
you're really asking for it. It doesn't just add to the risk,
it's multiplicative.