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AZ

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Nov 20, 2008, 8:50:21 PM11/20/08
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How can I even think like this? All I want is a Scotch and a Cigarette.
Craving is very high and dangerous.
I painted all over my face with a green marker, just so I don't leave the
house and get something to drink and smoke.
Help! Somebody, YELL at me...PLEASE.

I have been quit for 1 Year, 5 Months, 2 Weeks, 3 Days, 19 hours and 46
minutes (536 days). But I don't know what happened to the $4,697.20 I saved
by not smoking 26,841 cigarettes. I have recovered 3 Months, 1 Day, 4 hours
and 45 minutes of my life.

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AZ
http://www.myspace.com/alazikra

Gordy

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Nov 20, 2008, 9:02:29 PM11/20/08
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DON'T YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!!
I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE AND I'LL SEND MARVIE AND THE TOWEL BOY ROUND TO SORT
YOU OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
You want a drink and a smoke BUT YOU DON'T NEED THEM.
Dont throw away all of your fantastic quits for one momentary lapse of
reason (floyd)
You know you can get through this.
Gordy
Two years, nine months, two weeks, two days, 1 hour, 11 minutes and 35
seconds. 25501 cigarettes not smoked, saving £2,550.12. Life saved: 12
weeks, 4 days, 13 hours, 5 minutes.

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writer272002

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Nov 20, 2008, 9:11:18 PM11/20/08
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DON'T DO IT! YOU KNOW BETTER!

(Plus, it's a waste of money.)

That's my yell.

Like the green marker idea., BTW.

Gordy

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Nov 20, 2008, 9:21:54 PM11/20/08
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.
> I painted all over my face with a green marker, just so I don't leave the
> house and get something to drink and smoke.
DO NOT SLEEP ON THE GRASS, THEY MAY BE CUTTING IT.
Gordy

Mark Earnest

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Nov 20, 2008, 9:31:07 PM11/20/08
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Go get the strongest tea you can find.
That's my suggestion.
I've broken some strong cravings that way.

Mark
oof


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Sue

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Nov 20, 2008, 9:32:03 PM11/20/08
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:50:21 -0600, "AZ" <zikra....@yahoo.com>
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I am sitting here staring at your meter. Let's see.... 1 year, 5
months, 2 weeks, 3 days, 19 hours and 46 minutes. $4697.20 saved.
26,841 cigarettes not smoked. Have you any idea how many people envy
all those numbers? I'm guessing that taterbug, Tiger Lily,
montana..., and many others would love to have your meter. They are
working very hard to get there. I'm not going to yell. I'm not going
to cajole. I'm not going to do anything but ask you to take a deep
breath, think how hard you have worked to get such a great meter,
think about how much money it will cost you to smoke and drink, thing
about how much crap you've already been through and managed not to
smoke, think about how icky you will smell and how icky your mouth
will taste, think about all the people here who care about you and
don't want you to smoke or drink, think about your sons and the
children they will have who you will want to see grow up, think about
the good things you do for people that you might not be able to do if
you went back to drinking and smoking, think about how smoking and
drinking will *not* improve your situation and will undoubtedly make
it lots worse. Now CUT THE CRAP AND DON"T SMOKE OR DRINK. Ok. I
yelled. I doubt you could hear me all the way in Georgia.
I like the green marker idea.
Take care, don't smoke, don't drink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sue
Two years, seven months, four weeks, two days, 21 hours, 31 minutes
and 53 seconds. 32204 cigarettes not smoked, saving $5,362.06. Life
saved: 15 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 40 minutes.

Gordy

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Nov 20, 2008, 9:35:51 PM11/20/08
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Well put Sue, I couldn't have done better

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Ian

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Nov 20, 2008, 3:19:49 PM11/20/08
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zikra....@yahoo.com wrote:

just hand on till morning comes - you can do it, mate, so come on , tell
that nicotine demon just to go get forked!
We're all in here with you - you think it's easy for any of us to give
up that delicious nicotine kick?
We all have to fight it as best we can, see. I've got the bastard beat
but he can come back any time ad get me,no problem if I don't watch it.
You've done so well , don't lose it all now!
--
Ian

kestrel

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Nov 20, 2008, 10:08:58 PM11/20/08
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Hey, AZ, no way I'm going to yell at you. You're doing it to
yourself. Now just take a few deep breaths. Doesn't that feel good?
Wouldn't you like to keep on taking deep, satisfying breaths for a
very long time? Painting your face green is a new ploy to keep you
out of trouble. If it works, if it keeps you from racing out of the
house and chasing down some booze and ciggies, well then just keep
right on. If you drink right now, you will give yourself permission
to smoke as well. So don't do it. Don't do either one. Don't
drink. Don't smoke. Trust me, the time will come when you will be
able to drink without wanting to smoke. Just focus on not smoking.
Go take a nice hot bath. Oh, sure, I used to smoke in the bathtub.
Nice bubble bath, get a good book to read, smoke a cigarette. No
kidding. But not anymore.

You can do it, AZ.

Joyce

Mike M

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Nov 20, 2008, 10:45:31 PM11/20/08
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I always found at times like this it paid big time to go to Jef's site
and read the Junky thinking pages. Used to always work for me.

Mike M


On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:50:21 -0600, "AZ" <zikra....@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>How can I even think like this? All I want is a Scotch and a Cigarette.

Gracenote

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Nov 20, 2008, 10:57:20 PM11/20/08
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On Nov 20, 10:45�pm, Mike M <mikemcig-f...@mindless.com> wrote:
> I always found at times like this it paid big time to go to Jef's site
> and read the Junky thinking pages. �Used to always work for me.
>
> Mike M
>
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:50:21 -0600, "AZ" <zikra.nos...@yahoo.com>

> wrote:
>
>
>
> >How can I even think like this? �All I want is a Scotch and a Cigarette.
> >Craving is very high and dangerous.
> >I painted all over my face with a green marker, just so I don't leave the
> >house and get something to drink and smoke.
> >Help! �Somebody, YELL at me...PLEASE.
>
> >I have been quit for 1 Year, 5 Months, 2 Weeks, 3 Days, 19 hours and 46
> >minutes (536 days). But I don't know what happened to the $4,697.20 I saved
> >by not smoking 26,841 cigarettes. I have recovered 3 Months, 1 Day, 4 hours
> >and 45 minutes of my life.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I like to think I am all unique and special and all, however I am
noticing that several of us are in dark, crappy places lately and I
wonder what's in the water? I feel much better today, but it's been a
struggle.
Love the green marker! That may save me some day. AZ, you go out of
the house that way you will scare the hell out of some cashier.

Now, I am going to follow your link and go look at your myspace page.

Annette

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Kathleen

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Nov 21, 2008, 12:46:40 AM11/21/08
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I have thought about both quite a bit this last month. For me it is the
angst of my husband's quit, and it doesn't come out in rage or extremes,
just an apathy that had me convinced on more than one occasion that he just
doesn't love me anymore.

I've read your posts AZ, and I hope you keep choosing to believe in hope and
joy and peace and love - because they, somehow, overcome all the ick that
this world can dish out. I believe in you. You have a whole army here who
would come to your rescue if we could. Keep posting - and I know you are
going to get through this rough patch and come back swinging.

Hugs,
Kathleen


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DavidL

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Nov 21, 2008, 11:32:27 AM11/21/08
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Sometimes you gotta ignore your thoughts, ignore your feelings, stick
your hands in your pockets, shut your mouth, and breath in, breath
out, step with your left foot, step with your right foot, breath in,
breath out, step with your left foot, step with your right foot.

Sometimes the the road of happiness we trudge is just fucking muddy as
hell!

At least we've got a road to follow now.
It never stays muddy forever.
Just seems that way sometimes.

FlatIronMike

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Nov 21, 2008, 3:00:56 PM11/21/08
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AZ! You *DO* know better! This is your addict saying you were better
off drunk and smelly from smoking. You know that is *NOT* better off
but behaviour you no longer want. Smack the addict down and take a
walk! You CAN beat this!

FlatironMike
One year, nine months, one week, three days, 16 hours, 30 minutes and
44 seconds. 12993 cigarettes not smoked, saving $3,898.13. Life saved:
6 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 45 minutes.

AZ

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Nov 21, 2008, 11:25:15 AM11/21/08
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Good morning all,

Let me start by saying: Thank you all for saving me. I know that *I* saved
myself, but not without you and your help; I couldn't have.

I did everything you said. I had some hot tea, I took very deep breaths. I
emailed my boys. I watched Jimmy V.'s video...again and again. I sat out
on my porch, and took in a lot of fresh air. I wanted the evening to end.
I took two sleeping pills instead of one (Ambien) grabbed my book and went
to bed. My mind could not comprehend what I was reading, so I stopped. I
reflected back on what I have done. I lost my work, but I am still alive
and living in my house. My kids are great, and make me proud every day. I
looked at my meter again, and asked God to "Grant me the Serenity to accept
the things I cannot change, the Courage to change the things I can; and the
Wisdom to know the difference."
I prayed. I cried. I kept doing that till I fell asleep.

I just woke up, still alcohol and nicotine free. I feel like I was hit by a
bus, but I will take that any day over a Scotch or a ciggie.

AS3; thank you. This place is full of people who really care. Also, thanks
to all of those who emailed me. I am in your debt.

--
AZ
http://www.myspace.com/alazikra


AZ

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Nov 21, 2008, 5:00:02 PM11/21/08
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FlatIronMike

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{{{{{{{{{{{{{AZ}}}}}}}}}}}}

I *KNEW* you could do it! We all do have times of self-doubt and
wonder if life is worth living. I was there when I was homeless and
my medical care was up in the air. I ran across a book that had a
slogan I read and digested: "Life is an adventure to enjoy and
share." It gave me shivers as I knew my part of the adventure right
then was scary, but I did keep on keeping on as I knew it could change
for the better. It did and I celebrate my life all the more because I
was true to myself.

You can do this, AZ. I find you a very warm and caring man, and I do
think that you may want to rethink what you want to do jobwise and
instead ask yourself 'what do you LIKE to do. Then find work that is
as close to that as possible and I know you will bloom.

FlatironMike
One year, nine months, one week, three days, 20 hours, 0 minutes and
12 seconds. 12996 cigarettes not smoked, saving $3,899.00. Life saved:
6 weeks, 3 days, 3 hours, 0 minutes.

Ian

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Nov 21, 2008, 12:59:43 PM11/21/08
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zikra....@yahoo.com wrote:

> Good morning all,
>
> Let me start by saying: Thank you all for saving me. I know that *I* saved
> myself, but not without you and your help; I couldn't have.
>

Oh well done, old son! You really ad me worried for a bit there.
You resisted the temptation, the seductive fiend who desperately wants
to see you dragging foul smoke into your lungs, that's his job see.
I wonder if, given your circumstances, I could hold out against the
need to smoke.
And yes, you are in some ways better off than some.
To coin a cliche, there is always someone worse off than you.
I came out of a Manchester eye hospital in the early Seventies, and was
sent to a convalescent home on the coast for three weeks to regain leg
muscles atrophied by some seven weeks in bed.
I was feeling a bit sorry for myself, sort of, why has this happened to
me? Why have I lost the sight in the left eye?
I'd had no real serious injury or illness before.
So, I gets in the convalescent home and begin to look around, and saw
people with terrible things who were very cheerful and cracking jokes
and getting on with it, and I thought, Hell, man , you got no problems
compared to these people, so just stop your bloody whining, OK.
--
Ian
1800 hours - opening time! I'm orf ....

Sue

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Nov 21, 2008, 8:28:12 PM11/21/08
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:59:43 +0000 (GMT), su...@flashy.nut (Ian) wrote:

>zikra....@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Good morning all,
>>
>> Let me start by saying: Thank you all for saving me. I know that *I* saved
>> myself, but not without you and your help; I couldn't have.
>>
>Oh well done, old son! You really ad me worried for a bit there.
>You resisted the temptation, the seductive fiend who desperately wants
>to see you dragging foul smoke into your lungs, that's his job see.
>I wonder if, given your circumstances, I could hold out against the
>need to smoke.
>And yes, you are in some ways better off than some.
>To coin a cliche, there is always someone worse off than you.

From the day you're born
Til you ride in a hearse
Things are bad
But they could be worse.

Rather grim.
Sue

Sparky

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Nov 22, 2008, 12:52:26 AM11/22/08
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Maximus, I don't think I have ever used this phrase before so here it
goes:
Attaboy Maximus, Well done.
Fred

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Nov 22, 2008, 9:32:21 AM11/22/08
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Yes, sir! Thank you, sir. You know I appreciate everything you said.

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AZ
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<snip>

AZ

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Nov 22, 2008, 9:33:24 AM11/22/08
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Grim, but true. Thanks, Sue

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AZ
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AZ

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Nov 22, 2008, 9:35:46 AM11/22/08
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True ringing words. Thank you Mike. This is why I come here. I know a lot
of people here "been there, done that" and I want them to talk to me.

Thank you so much, my friend.

--
AZ
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AZ

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Nov 22, 2008, 9:37:06 AM11/22/08
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Thanks Fred. Just having you say something to me is a great motivator :)

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AZ
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Ian

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Nov 22, 2008, 6:17:14 AM11/22/08
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> Yes, sir! Thank you, sir. You know I appreciate everything you said.
>

Unfair! Unfair! You snipped so as to make my 'Stop whining' words
out of context; of course I was quoting what I'd told myself once, back
in the early Seventies, not chiding you, as you know I hope!.
--
Ian

AZ

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Nov 22, 2008, 1:28:55 PM11/22/08
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Ian,

No, no no. I really meant what I said. I was not being funny about it. I
am very sorry if it came across that way. And I do listen to what you say,
appreciate it and thank you for all the support you always gave me.

I apologize for the misunderstanding or how it appeared to be.

--
AZ
http://www.myspace.com/alazikra


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Ian

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Nov 22, 2008, 8:51:46 AM11/22/08
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zikra....@yahoo.com wrote:

> Ian,
>
> No, no no. I really meant what I said. I was not being funny about it. I
> am very sorry if it came across that way. And I do listen to what you say,
> appreciate it and thank you for all the support you always gave me.
>
> I apologize for the misunderstanding or how it appeared to be.

Panic not! I was only pulling your leg, no ruffled feathers over
here; but I also wanted those who
might have missed a previous post from me not to get the idea I'd been
somewhat brutal to you - Stop that whining, etc, d'you see.
I think we can close this one at this point!
--
Ian

AZ

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Nov 22, 2008, 4:08:01 PM11/22/08
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Waaaaaaa Waaaaaaaa Waaaaaa :)

Go J E T S

--
AZ
http://www.myspace.com/alazikra


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Ian

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Nov 22, 2008, 11:35:25 AM11/22/08
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> Waaaaaaa Waaaaaaaa Waaaaaa :)
>
> Go J E T S
>

Oh shoosh! Stop that row - almost every one in here is fast asleep,
haven't you noticed?
--
Ian
Everyone's gone to the moon....

AZ

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Nov 21, 2008, 1:43:19 PM11/21/08
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Good morning all,

Let me start by saying: Thank you all for saving me. I know that *I* saved
myself, but not without you and your help; I couldn't have.

I did everything you said. I had some hot tea, I took very deep breaths. I
emailed my boys. I watched Jimmy V.'s video...again and again. I sat out
on my porch, and took in a lot of fresh air. I wanted the evening to end.
I took two sleeping pills instead of one (Ambien) grabbed my book and went
to bed. My mind could not comprehend what I was reading, so I stopped. I
reflected back on what I have done. I lost my work, but I am still alive
and living in my house. My kids are great, and make me proud every day. I
looked at my meter again, and asked God to "Grant me the Serenity to accept
the things I cannot change, the Courage to change the things I can; and the
Wisdom to know the difference."
I prayed. I cried. I kept doing that till I fell asleep.

I just woke up, still alcohol and nicotine free. I feel like I was hit by a
bus, but I will take that any day over a Scotch or a ciggie.

AS3; thank you. This place is full of people who really care. Also, thanks
to all of those who emailed me. I am in your debt.

--

AZ
http://www.myspace.com/alazikra

Jsteam

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Nov 24, 2008, 6:59:56 PM11/24/08
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No yellin, Az, just commiseration. the green pen was a good idea. You myspace is
looking good, thatnk God you don't smoke.!

AZ <zikra....@yahoo.com> penned.wrote.stated:
: How can I even think like this? All I want is a Scotch and a Cigarette.

: Craving is very high and dangerous.
: I painted all over my face with a green marker, just so I don't leave the
: house and get something to drink and smoke.
: Help! Somebody, YELL at me...PLEASE.

: I have been quit for 1 Year, 5 Months, 2 Weeks, 3 Days, 19 hours and 46
: minutes (536 days). But I don't know what happened to the $4,697.20 I saved

: by not smoking 26,841 cigarettes. I have recovered 3 Months, 1 Day, 4 hours
: and 45 minutes of my life.

: --
: AZ
: http://www.myspace.com/alazikra

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