Not everyone here likes to be in the spotlight and celebrate their
milestones, but I do. I love it. I've worked hard to defeat my nico-Demon
and I'll celebrate my arse off for years to come. The people that have been
here for a few years might remember me being so happy at 6 months in I did 3
HOF celebration posts. I've bettered my life since then and will not do that
again. This here rambling will be it. It's based on behind the scenes
ramblings and conversations about quitting and life in general that are
still in full progress.
I'll paste my meter here so anyone that doesn't want to read more of my new
age pop psych ramblings can skip them, grab a pair of clogs, undress and go
straight to partying:
Three years, 0 minutes and 0 seconds. 49320 cigarettes not smoked, saving ?
0,00.
- - -
Before we start I'd like to thank both me e-re-e and me mum for proof
reading
this puppy. If you think it's crap, take it up with them. ;)
- - -
A lot has happened in the time I've been here. I quit smoking! Even though
for years my brain said I couldn't. Even though my body tried to tell my
brain to tell over and over I *needed* to smoke, I still quit and proved
both my brain and body wrong. Even though my whole system was acting on a
deeply ingrained belief I wouldn't be able to quit.
That doesn't just tell me I'm strong though; strong enough to take control
over both my brain and part of my life. To me it also helped enter the
concept that beliefs are just what the word says, beliefs, viewpoints,
attitudes; things you believe to be true. Get a thesaurus and you'll see
beliefs are not gospel; they are a way of life. What we believe to be true
is shaped by what we have learned and gone through in our lives, and apart
from the obvious exceptions that you're not free from time and place - coz
you're stuck in your body -, pretty much every other truth is up for
interpretation.
Had you grown up differently, your so called 'truths' would be totally
different from what they are now. Ergo, what we hold as true is flexible,
often flexible enough to replace with a better and healthier truth if we
choose to do so. Isn't that a wonderful and scary concept? Imagine how much
of what we see as truth would hold up and still be the same had we grown up
in another part of this world or just with different parents and peers.
Before I digress, keep in mind in this post I opt to see a flexible truth as
*my* truth. Now, let's get back to quitting.
- - -
Remember how you thought it was impossible to quit smoking? I know I knew I
couldn't quit and I told myself so over and over. Problem is; false truths
like that oftentimes are self fulfilling prophecies. What's that saying
again? Whether you say you can or can't do something, you are right?
The way I see it is in quitting -just like fighting all other inner demons
you face in life- you, are both the puppet and the puppeteer. Meaning you
are fighting you. Well, a part of you anyway. A part that's used to getting
its way, and a part you didn't question very often coz you were rewarded for
not questioning your nicoDemon's false logic, right?
So you're fighting a power within that not only has had years to prepare its
defense, you've been accepting that defense as gospel for years and years
and even helped in its defense; a pretty grim scenario when you're going
into battle. You're facing two opposing forces with a conflict of interest,
one of which you've been rewarding for keeping you addicted 20, 30, 40 or
50 times a day.
Yeah, fighting yourself can be both a curse and a blessing at times and -not
being mutually exclusive- it often is both at the same time. Luckily, when
fighting yourself you are not just your own defense counsel, but both the
judge and jury as well; giving you the power to overrule your demon's entire
evidence.
How? First of all by understanding you're not the puppet; the puppet is a
part of you you can take control over. In quitting smoking, read up on
smoking and addiction and gather evidence. Read it learn it live it and
start building your own case and soon enough you'll find your addicted self
makes less and less sense, and after a while you'll see your demon is just a
rogue puppet pulling your strings. And it will continue to do so as long as
you let it, coz being a creature of habit your mind is perfectly ok with you
not being in control. So, stop listening to it. Take no prisoners, take
control by any means necessary and beat that puppet into submission and show
no mercy.
- - -
In this point of my life I am inclined to focus a lot on tension and
release, so my conclusions obviously are colored but I find a big part of
quitting has to do with stress and how we choose to unwind. Under stress we
often fall back on conditioned responses, whether they've proved to be
helpful in the past or not. Again, people are creatures of habit.
Good thing is, we get to choose our habits. It's not easy, but it's no
rocket science either; this is about finding alternative ways to deal with
stress, healthier ways. This is about refusing to listen to your addicted
self any longer. Adopt and adapt: use what you know. Use what works for
others and make it work for you and slowly replace your conditioned
responses for healthier responses until they become second nature and
completely replace the feeling you need to smoke. Not unlike you'd replace a
bad habit for a healthier one.
If you've been reading here you'll know how often we suggest deep breathing
and exercise. It's not just intuitively we feel what's good for us, both
people present today as well as in the past have found out the empirical way
relaxation techniques like deep breathing work wonders when you crave. Why?
Read this top 5 stress signals I found in the paper on Thursday:
1 reduction in productivity
2 being late frequently
3 Forgetting appointments and important meetings
4 Making more mistakes than usual
5 Easily distracted.
Can someone spell 'brain fog'? Recognise this is pretty much what people
complain about when they quit smoking. Do you realise how often we interpret
this as just an chemical imbalance? Wouldn't it make just as much sense to
blame stress for being foggy? Big bonus in pointing at stress is that you
can take matters in your own hands and do something about it were in just
looking at it as a chemical imbalance pretty much leaves you powerless.
Work! Retrain the brain. Use the knowledge and techniques available to you
and get your hands dirty. Can't say it often enough. Shift focus and stop
looking at the obstacles once you've identified them and start looking for
appropriate solutions; solutions suitable for you personally. As with
everything else in life, things that work best are the things you use.
Developing an arsenal of skills you are not going to use is pointless. Find
techniques that fit *your* life and use them often enough to let them become
second nature.
If you google for relaxation techniques you'll find techniques you can use
at any time and any place during the day. If you combine that with a bit of
soul-searching know what works best for you. Skip the techniques you don't
feel like using. Remember, this isn't about acquiring the biggest arsenal of
relaxation techniques possible. It's about teaching the brain to interpret
craves as a need for stress relief. So one could argue that in this case
less could be better. I wouldn't know. For the better part this is all
intuitively so as always, if you think this might work for you, do what you
think would be best for you. Your demon tells ya you need to smoke?
Bullshit. If anything you need to learn to deal with stress and relax under
pressure. Check out techniques like:
Relaxation exercises.
Deep breathing.
Yoga.
Physical exercises.
Autogenic training or Autosuggestion
Positive affirmations.
- - -
This way of thinking might all be a bit much and maybe I am overdoing it a
bit, but I've got pretty good reasons for that. Within there's a destructive
power strong enough to convince you its ok to slowly kill yourself. What if
you take control over this power and learn to use it for good? (Two brownie
points for all of you that just were thinking: 'use the force Luke!')
Imagine what that power can do for you if you take control of it.
Combine that with the fact I'm not looking for a quick fix. I don't even
believe there is a quick fix, not for most of us anyway, so I'm looking for
solutions here. I want a system to totally eradicate every possible thought
about smoking for the rest of my life. And not just that, as I've mentioned
before here, I'm not just using this to quit smoking, I am using it to cope
with other inner demons -depression, frustration, anger to name a few- just
the same. People that know me will tell ya I haven't mastered it all yet,
but I am still gaining ground. Granted, it's often two steps forward and one
step back and at times even two steps back and one step forward but I am
pretty convinced I'm getting there eventually. Enough about me, back to
quitting.
- - -
By now I already wrote half a book. But please don't fear. We're almost
there so the end is near. What I'm saying is that to me -even though we do
this all to stop smoking- the main thing about quitting might not even be
about the smoking itself, but about how you react to stress. You need to
learn how to deal with stress without smoking, and if stress itself isn't
enough you'll have to deal with craves at the same time. Notice how many
people are getting cranky when they quit? Being cranky is your system trying
to get rid of stress, as is getting angry. (One of my personal favourites,
even if it often is directed inwards.)
See what I am getting at? Focus on handling the stress as opposed to
focussing on smoking or not smoking. If you didn't want to quit, you
wouldn't put yourself through so much trouble, right? So giving in to your
craves does not make sense, and after establishing the fact that only a
*part* of you wants to smoke, you can skip that station.
Mind you, semantics count. There's a huge difference between *you* wanting
to smoke and a *part* of you wanting to smoke. To me there's even a huge
difference between wanting to smoke and thinking you want to smoke. Either
way, take the fact you're not going to smoke as a given accept all thoughts
of smoking as untruths and use them as triggers to do some stress relieve
and make that your chosen conditioned response.
See, after you established the fact smoking is no solution and you're not
going to smoke, every second spent thinking about smoking is not just a
waste of time but even counter productive coz chances are great it will just
frustrate you and stress you out even more which easily can get you caught
in a vicious circle. And since going in against what feels natural,
naturally will feel unnatural and uncomfortable at first, - OK, I just put
that sentence in for me - you'll need all your energy and put it to better
use and stay away from frustration and stress as far as possible.
Yeah, I realise what I'm writing is not an earth shattering new concept or
the biggest paradigm shift ever. And no, it will come as no surprise taking
control over the subconscious mind by consciously taking control over your
actions is just paying dues with a proactive attitude. You know, making
things better as opposed to waiting for things to get better. Like I said,
I'm kicking in open doors here, just need a lot of words to do so.
And finally, I know it's a mind-set thing, but it is not *just* a mind-set.
It's a way to teach your brain to reinterpret triggers that used to make you
want to smoke and use them for good. I do believe in willpower, and for
some it might be enough to stay quit, but for me it's not enough. I have
this firm belief willpower isn't nearly as effective in moments of severe
stress as conditioned responses are. I'm not taking willpower out of the
equation, just using it differently. In my mind using willpower is a great
way to stay quit while you retrain your brain and after a while, willpower
is no longer the main ingredient of your quit. Discard thoughts that are
holding you back and embrace the thoughts and actions that help you
become a better and healthier person.
- - -
Eh, sorry it's a bit longwinded but what else is new. I just need a lot of
words to put my thoughts on paper. Thanks for reading it. Might not be your
thing, but you'll have to agree it fer sure beats stapling a fucking rubber
chicken to your damned forehead to beat craves or having yer ass duct taped
to a ceiling. Right?
--
"Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours."
-
"DutchVanAfoort" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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Robin is
8b d8 ,ad8888ba, 88888888888
`8b d8' d8"' `"8b 88
`8b d8' d8' `8b 88
`8b d8' 88 88 88aaaaa
`8b d8' 88 88 88"""""
`8b d8' Y8, ,8P 88
`888' Y8a. .a8P 88
`8' `"Y8888Y"' 88
can you believe it I can't
8b d8 ,ad8888ba, 88888888888
`8b d8' d8"' `"8b 88
`8b d8' d8' `8b 88
`8b d8' 88 88 88aaaaa
`8b d8' 88 88 88"""""
`8b d8' Y8, ,8P 88
`888' Y8a. .a8P 88
`8' `"Y8888Y"' 88
in everyway but mind
8b d8 ,ad8888ba, 88888888888
`8b d8' d8"' `"8b 88
`8b d8' d8' `8b 88
`8b d8' 88 88 88aaaaa
`8b d8' 88 88 88"""""
`8b d8' Y8, ,8P 88
`888' Y8a. .a8P 88
`8' `"Y8888Y"' 88
in every station on guard
8b d8 ,ad8888ba, 88888888888
`8b d8' d8"' `"8b 88
`8b d8' d8' `8b 88
`8b d8' 88 88 88aaaaa
`8b d8' 88 88 88"""""
`8b d8' Y8, ,8P 88
`888' Y8a. .a8P 88
`8' `"Y8888Y"' 88
Our Dutch master fighter.
: -taking off all her clothes, putting on her pink clogs and doing the
: official 'welcome to the VOF tubs' dance.
Yeah, got mine off too, but my clogs are tenatitive, and not pink, but every 3 years,
why not.
"DutchVanAfoort" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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Congratulations to one of the nicest people here-- ever, ever, ever.
Never a doubt in my mind that you're in it for the long haul. What a gent;
what a guy; what a target...
Er... uh... that is...
I knew there was a reason I was working these last few days.
Here's a brand-new look at an old, familiar place for you.
www.quitbuddies.org
Wow,
Most awesome post.
I dont care that it has been proofread either. The "soul" of it still comes
shining thru.
Did I ever say thanks?
Thanks,
and Huge Congrats,
Andy
--
I havent smoked for 4 months, 4 weeks, 2 days, 16 hours, 44 minutes and 31 seconds.
4580 cigarettes were not smoked, saving me $1145.00
Added: 2 weeks, 1 day, 21 hours, 44 minutes and 38 seconds to my life.
I would try the nekkid clog dance, but as previously mentioned in
another thread, a slight bit of weight needs to be got rid of first;-)
Three BIG Cheers for Three Years Smober and Three Years supporting all
at AS3:-
HIP, HIP, HIP HOORAY!!!
Watch you don't wrinkle too much in the Hot Tubs Your VOFNESS!!!
Your Mum and e-re-e are excellent proof readers, give them a hug from
me :o)
Hugs & Cheers
Barbara
oxoxo
Rick
"DutchVanAfoort" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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Your whole post is great, Dutch, but these are the two passages that sum up
all the rest, for me. If you remember these simple concepts, quitters,
Dutch has given all the details for how to make them a routine and real part
of your life. These skills will enhance your entire lives, if you let them.
ep ooooooof
>It's that time of the year again were I get to climb the soapbox and put a
>spotlight on myself to celebrate the defeat and exorcism of my nicoDemon by
>doing a little preaching to the choir and kick in a few open doors, after
>which you cheer me on for making it another trip around the block. Sheesh,
>does life get much better than that?
Nope, it doesn't, Robin. Thanks for all you do here. Congratulations
of the VOF and the understanding of what it takes to quit.
Robin is VOF! How cool is that?
Maude
Thank you, too, for your support of everyone here!
Liz
OF+4M+4W
"DutchVanAfoort" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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>It's that time of the year again were I get to climb the soapbox and put a
>spotlight on myself to celebrate the defeat and exorcism of my nicoDemon by
>doing a little preaching to the choir and kick in a few open doors, after
>which you cheer me on for making it another trip around the block. Sheesh,
>does life get much better than that?
snip
>
>Three years, 0 minutes and 0 seconds. 49320 cigarettes not smoked, saving ?
>0,00.
>- - -
>. Discard thoughts that are
>holding you back and embrace the thoughts and actions that help you
>become a better and healthier person.
>
Snip some more
> - - -
>Eh, sorry it's a bit longwinded but what else is new. I just need a lot of
>words to put my thoughts on paper. Thanks for reading it. Might not be your
>thing, but you'll have to agree it fer sure beats stapling a fucking rubber
>chicken to your damned forehead to beat craves or having yer ass duct taped
>to a ceiling. Right?
Wow, robin, it was difficult to snip any of that.
I am so glad you understand this and that you are willing to post it.
I fell into AS3, caught some coat tails and hung on. That's how I
quit. Could you feel me hanging on?
Loved your post. It said a lot of things that really resonate with
me.
Thank you.
Congratulations on your biggie milestone.
Very well done.
Fred
Many Dutchman Hugs from Rosie
--
"If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself." -- Meat Loaf, Bat
Outta Hell II
"DutchVanAfoort" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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Have yourself a clog dance, bro... you deserve it.
--
Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay committed!
Lane - Starting Over
Quit Stuff - www.diaryofaquitter.com
Bass stuff - www.laneonbass.com
Writing stuff - www.alifewithspirit.com
"DutchVanAfoort" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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Lee
VOF
--
Hawaiian trapped in a Minnesotan's body
"DutchVanAfoort" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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have fun be brave
Paul
"DutchVanAfoort" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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Love this post, totally understand and am a firm believer in
'rebraining' :-)
Congratulations! Hope you had a great day!
Cheers!
-- Marvie
Nice going Robin. You are on *my* list of Amazing People; I'm glad I've
been around here at the same time as you.
Cheers
Chris
--
Succorso
vof
"DutchVanAfoort" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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> It's that time of the year again were I get to climb the soapbox and put a
> spotlight on myself to celebrate the defeat and exorcism of my nicoDemon
> by
> doing a little preaching to the choir and kick in a few open doors, after
> which you cheer me on for making it another trip around the block. Sheesh,
> does life get much better than that?
>
'nuff respect dutch one
i only pop in here once in a while but i'm glad i caught this....
there are a few sound genuine guys i remember in here and you are one of
them
you should be fookin proud mate what an achievement!
nice one, dave, phat boy,
4y, 1m, 5d, 23h, 20m , 37s. 22469 cigarettes not smoked, saving £5,055.66
j
"DutchVanAfoort" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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> It's that time of the year again were I get to climb the soapbox and put a
> spotlight on myself to celebrate the defeat and exorcism of my nicoDemon
> by
> doing a little preaching to the choir and kick in a few open doors, after
> which you cheer me on for making it another trip around the block. Sheesh,
> does life get much better than that?
>
> Not everyone here likes to be in the spotlight and celebrate their
> milestones, but I do. I love it. I've worked hard to defeat my nico-Demon
> and I'll celebrate my arse off for years to come. The people that have
> been
> here for a few years might remember me being so happy at 6 months in I did
> 3
> HOF celebration posts. I've bettered my life since then and will not do
> that
> again. This here rambling will be it. It's based on behind the scenes
> ramblings and conversations about quitting and life in general that are
> still in full progress.
>
> I'll paste my meter here so anyone that doesn't want to read more of my
> new
> age pop psych ramblings can skip them, grab a pair of clogs, undress and
> go
> straight to partying:
>
> Three years, 0 minutes and 0 seconds. 49320 cigarettes not smoked, saving
> ? 0,00.
You; you know I love ya, and love having you as a friend. And if I helped
you show a way out of this shite addiction it prolly is one of the better
things I ever did. You know I feel kinda funny when you thank me for showing
*you* the way, right? You do so much for me, to me it feels like *you* are
showing *me* the way.
Apart from keeping me sane at days I'm losing it, and reminding me some
things are not worth getting worked up over, and that sometimes it's better
to shrug shoulders at days I forget to do so; you are one of those people
that have a way of making me want to fight and grow into a 'me' I like
better.
And if that doesn't already make life better, you making me laugh so often
does. Not just when you're being stupid with me or when we do silly shit
like having fake fights or troll other news groups, but you make me laugh
about small things, about life, about myself.
And the fact you're killing me in literati pretty much every time we play
and show me my English is crap, just when I am all smug and convinced it is
getting better doesn't make me less glad you're both my friend and me
e-re-e.
Thanks again for proofreading my drivel sweetie. But most of all, thanks for
being you and for coming into my life
Yer e-re-e.
XxX
Now, let's dance!
--
Three That's the Magic Number
Yes it is It's the magic number
-
"Cuckoo" <> schreef in bericht ...
> WooooHooooooooSweetie!
> I cannot snip one word of this fabulous post.
> I'm proud of you.
> Congrats on VOF and thank you sooo much for showing me the way.
> the e-re-e
> -taking off all her clothes, putting on her pink clogs and doing the
> official 'welcome to the VOF tubs' dance.
> xoxoxoxoxoxoxo
>
Robin.
--
Three That's the Magic Number
Yes it is It's the magic number
-
"Jsteam" <> schreef in bericht ...
> OUTSTANDING post, Robin, read it word for word, and saved it too, what a
> beautiful
> message to veveryone. I'll throw out fomse VOF confetti to get the
> parade started:
>
> Robin is
>
> 8b d8 ,ad8888ba, 88888888888
> `8b d8' d8"' `"8b 88
> `8b d8' d8' `8b 88
> `8b d8' 88 88 88aaaaa
> `8b d8' 88 88 88"""""
> `8b d8' Y8, ,8P 88
> `888' Y8a. .a8P 88
> `8' `"Y8888Y"' 88
>
> can you believe it I can't
> 8b d8 ,ad8888ba, 88888888888
> `8b d8' d8"' `"8b 88
> `8b d8' d8' `8b 88
> `8b d8' 88 88 88aaaaa
> `8b d8' 88 88 88"""""
> `8b d8' Y8, ,8P 88
> `888' Y8a. .a8P 88
> `8' `"Y8888Y"' 88
>
> in everyway but mind
>
> 8b d8 ,ad8888ba, 88888888888
> `8b d8' d8"' `"8b 88
> `8b d8' d8' `8b 88
> `8b d8' 88 88 88aaaaa
> `8b d8' 88 88 88"""""
> `8b d8' Y8, ,8P 88
> `888' Y8a. .a8P 88
> `8' `"Y8888Y"' 88
>
> in every station on guard
>
> 8b d8 ,ad8888ba, 88888888888
> `8b d8' d8"' `"8b 88
> `8b d8' d8' `8b 88
> `8b d8' 88 88 88aaaaa
> `8b d8' 88 88 88"""""
> `8b d8' Y8, ,8P 88
> `888' Y8a. .a8P 88
> `8' `"Y8888Y"' 88
>
> Our Dutch master fighter.
>
>
>
Thanks for everything Jef. Have said it before, that www.quitbuddies.org is
not just a quit saver; both you with your warped sense of humor and the
quitbuddies site are also one of the reasons I stuck around this long. I
love the new look by the way, even though not all the pics work on my end. L
Love the new look of the gallery!
Would like to big you up some more, but I have about 20 or so more thank you
notes to write. So thanks again for everything and a big hug from Holland,
Robin.
--
Three That's the Magic Number
Yes it is It's the magic number
-
"Jef." <> schreef in bericht ...
>
> "DutchVanAfoort" wrote
>> Three years, 0 minutes and 0 seconds...
> <SNIP> a lot of nice stuff; old people do go on, don't they....?
>
> Congratulations to one of the nicest people here-- ever, ever, ever.
> Never a doubt in my mind that you're in it for the long haul. What a gent;
> what a guy; what a target...
> Er... uh... that is...
>
> I knew there was a reason I was working these last few days.
> Here's a brand-new look at an old, familiar place for you.
> www.quitbuddies.org
>
>
Robin.
(I'm glad you liked my post, even though it had some swearing in it. Tried
to keep it to a minimum though. )
--
Three That's the Magic Number
Yes it is It's the magic number
-
"ChrisB" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Dear Robin,
> Still my inspiration.What an fighter you are for the anti-smoking brigade.
> Brilliant post!
> ChrisB
> X
>
Do like the idea of the soul of it shining through by the way.
Did I ever say thanks to you Andy? See, I still believe it's not possible to
put more into this place than you get from it. So if you're going to thank
me I'll return the favour and thank you for sharing your quit. It's good
seeing people fight and regain freedom and from the looks of it you're well
on the way. All the best,
Robin.
--
Three That's the Magic Number
Yes it is It's the magic number
-
"Andy" <> schreef in bericht ...
>
> Wow,
> Most awesome post.
> I dont care that it has been proofread either. The "soul" of it still
> comes
> shining thru.
> Did I ever say thanks?
>
> Thanks,
>
> and Huge Congrats,
>
> Andy
>
> --
> I havent smoked for 4 months, 4 weeks, 2 days, 16 hours, 44 minutes and 31
> seconds.
> 4580 cigarettes were not smoked, saving me $1145.00
> Added: 2 weeks, 1 day, 21 hours, 44 minutes and 38 seconds to my life.
>
Gave both my mum and e-re-e that hug. Well, gave me e-re-e an e-hug
obviously.
Well, I'm off to enjoy the tubs to party for at least a month. Eh, what can
I say? A good idea izza good idea, lol. Not that scared of getting wrinkled.
I was born wrinkled, lol. Thanks for your kind words Barbara. All the best
and a big hug from Holland,
Robin.
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"Barbara-eve done it @ last!!!" <> schreef in bericht ...
> (((ROBIN)))
> Well worth the wait {I've been extremely patient ALL day}.
> But what a Fantastic Post, read it twice AND saved it with other
> classics e.g. The Cage.
> Think we should party for at least a month on this brilliant post,
> again I say ;
> "You have a great way with words, when is your book due out?"
>
> I would try the nekkid clog dance, but as previously mentioned in
> another thread, a slight bit of weight needs to be got rid of first;-)
>
> Three BIG Cheers for Three Years Smober and Three Years supporting all
> at AS3:-
>
> HIP, HIP, HIP HOORAY!!!
>
> Watch you don't wrinkle too much in the Hot Tubs Your VOFNESS!!!
>
> Your Mum and e-re-e are excellent proof readers, give them a hug from
> me :o)
>
> Hugs & Cheers
> Barbara
> oxoxo
>
the next two years. All the best,
Robin.
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"eightpans" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Hi
> Nice one Robin, great post, Well done on 3 years smoke free and VOFism.
> Regards Chris
>
Robin.
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"Sue" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Wow!! I'd not realized I've been posting to such a celebrity today.
> Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> It looks as though you are to be commended for making many positive
> changes in the last three years - not just being smober.
> I've not been here for too long, but I believe you are one of the most
> supportive people here. Thanks!!
> Sue
>
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"RL" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Great post, great milestone, read every word. Some of it even made
> sense.... Soon as I get over my own FWD party I'm going to yours.
>
> Rick
>
>
Thanks for being here and cheering us on Les. I think it is great successful
quitters stick around and up the average quit length. Have always looked up
to you guys in awe. All the best from Holland,
Robin.
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"Les Stewart" <> schreef in bericht ...
> GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!
> GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!
> GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!
> GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!
> GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!
> GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!
> GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!
> GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!GoRobin!!
> --
> Les Stewart 6y+
> Beaumont, TX 30' 94'
>
I have already printed out your celebratory letter, so the comments on
that won't come through for about a week. I know how to nurse these
things!
Let me congratulate you now on your 3 year anniversary off smokes. And
thank you for being a Steady Eddie of the newsgroup.
Molly
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"Edna Pearl" <> schreef in bericht ...
>
> Your whole post is great, Dutch, but these are the two passages that sum
> up all the rest, for me. If you remember these simple concepts, quitters,
> Dutch has given all the details for how to make them a routine and real
> part of your life. These skills will enhance your entire lives, if you
> let them.
>
> ep ooooooof
>
>
Robin. <-- feels very cool as a VOF!
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"Maude" <> schreef in bericht ...
>
> Nope, it doesn't, Robin. Thanks for all you do here. Congratulations
> of the VOF and the understanding of what it takes to quit
(by the way, did ya manage to track down Henry to show ya how to make the
sea salt?)
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"Sparky" <> schreef in bericht ...
> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 22:32:37 +0200, "DutchVanAfoort"
> <> wrote:
>
>>It's that time of the year again were I get to climb the soapbox and put a
>>spotlight on myself to celebrate the defeat and exorcism of my nicoDemon
>>by
>>doing a little preaching to the choir and kick in a few open doors, after
>>which you cheer me on for making it another trip around the block. Sheesh,
>>does life get much better than that?
>
> snip
>>
>>Three years, 0 minutes and 0 seconds. 49320 cigarettes not smoked, saving
>>?
>>0,00.
>>- - -
>>. Discard thoughts that are
>>holding you back and embrace the thoughts and actions that help you
>>become a better and healthier person.
>>
> Snip some more
>> - - -
>>Eh, sorry it's a bit longwinded but what else is new. I just need a lot of
>>words to put my thoughts on paper. Thanks for reading it. Might not be
>>your
>>thing, but you'll have to agree it fer sure beats stapling a fucking
>>rubber
>>chicken to your damned forehead to beat craves or having yer ass duct
>>taped
>>to a ceiling. Right?
>
> Wow, robin, it was difficult to snip any of that.
> I am so glad you understand this and that you are willing to post it.
> I fell into AS3, caught some coat tails and hung on. That's how I
> quit. Could you feel me hanging on?
> Loved your post. It said a lot of things that really resonate with
> me.
> Thank you.
> Congratulations on your biggie milestone.
> Very well done.
> Fred
>
Conga, conga, conga! Conga, conga, conga!
Conga, conga, conga! Conga, conga, conga!
Conga, conga, conga! Conga, conga, conga!
Conga, conga, conga! Conga, conga, conga!
Give the old Copper Wolf a big manhug for me and know I am still sending you
good vibes. A very special hug for you and thanks for all you do. Eh, that
rhymes! I want brownie points for that. ;) Feel like a silly dance Rosie?
Coz I'm not done partying yet,
Conga, conga, conga! Conga, conga, conga!
Conga, conga, conga! Conga, conga, conga!
Conga, conga, conga! Conga, conga, conga!
Conga, conga, conga! Conga, conga, conga!
Robin.
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"Rosemarie Shiver" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Yee Haw! Humina Humina and huzzah and Hoo RAY!! Dutchman makes 3 Y!
> Party
> hearty my dear, you've earned it!
>
> Many Dutchman Hugs from Rosie
> --
> "If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself." -- Meat Loaf,
> Bat
> Outta Hell II
>
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"Lane Baldwin" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Great post, Robin... and HUGE congrats to you on VOF!!!
>
> Have yourself a clog dance, bro... you deserve it.
> --
> Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay committed!
>
> Lane - Starting Over
>
> Quit Stuff - www.diaryofaquitter.com
> Bass stuff - www.laneonbass.com
> Writing stuff - www.alifewithspirit.com
>
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"Mike M" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Pretty impressive Robin. Lots of good info. I don't have any clogs
> but I'll go mark some territory for you while I'm out enjoying the tub
> in the yard tonight.
>
> Mike M
>
VOF tubs. Did I say old? I meant Very Old! ;) It means a lot to me you
think
my post could be helpful. You've been here long enough to know what quitting
is
all about so for me it's a huge compliment. Thanks again and thanks for
being here
and paving the way for us all that are following,
Robin. <-- Dutch boy trapped inna VOF pool!
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"Lee in Duluth MN" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Congrats on reaching VOF status, Robin! You deserve this and more.
> Thanks for being here and giving of yourself to so many others. Your post
> provides a very good blueprint for newcomers to digest and follow. Thanks
> again.
>
> Lee
> VOF
>
> --
> Hawaiian trapped in a Minnesotan's body
>
>
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"Jimbob" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Simply awesome man. Congratulations!
>
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"readandpostrosie" <> schreef in bericht ...
>a HUGE congrats to you and THANKS for all you do around here!
> i LOVE your posts!
>
Ten or so more posts to go and here is yours. Let me start with saying I am
glad you loved my post. You know I am a firm believer of shifting focus and
I don't know if it's in your personality or if it's the books you read but
you have this amazing ability to focus on the things in life that really
matter. For real, you're about the most positive guy I know; e-know, but you
know what I mean. And I don't mean just in good times. It's easy to make
time and find the good things in life when life is good. -Even though there
are people that can't even do that.- But you Marv, you manage to still focus
on the good things at times adversity takes over and there are not a lot of
people that can pull that off. I admire that. So you saying you loved my
post makes me proud as fuck. Thank you for sharing both your quit and so
much of your life with us and know it's great to have e-friends like you
mate. *big man_hug from Holland,
Robin.
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <> schreef in bericht ...
> My Friend!
> <man_hug>
>
> Love this post, totally understand and am a firm believer in
> 'rebraining' :-)
>
> Congratulations! Hope you had a great day!
>
> Cheers!
>
> -- Marvie
>
>
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"Chris Smith" <> schreef in bericht ...
> DutchVanAfoort wrote:
>> It's that time of the year again were I get to climb the soapbox and put
>> a
>> spotlight on myself to celebrate the defeat and exorcism of my nicoDemon
>> by
>> doing a little preaching to the choir and kick in a few open doors, after
>> which you cheer me on for making it another trip around the block.
>> Sheesh,
>> does life get much better than that?
>> ...
>
> Nice going Robin. You are on *my* list of Amazing People; I'm glad I've
> been around here at the same time as you.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> --
> Succorso
> vof
>
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"Never Stop Giving Up Giving Up" <> schreef in bericht ...
Many Congratulations on THREE Years as a non smoker
Well Done ROBIN!!!
Regards
George
One year, four months, two weeks, six days, 22 hours, 7 minutes and 18
seconds. 15237 cigarettes not smoked, saving £3,413.23. Life saved: 7
weeks, 3 days, 21 hours, 45 minutes.
Thanks for being here Lynn, you're a special lady. Will never forget how we
used to scout for new quitters all day every day. To me you're really one of
AS3's angels. *big hug and a kiss from Holland,
Robin.
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"Lynn" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Congrats Robin on your VOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> I do remember your three HOF posts, :) and I am grateful that you came
> before me and helped show me the way. I also am very grateful to you (and
> steveb) for keeping me sane ( or close to it) in chat in those early days
> of my quit. Knowing you guys were there really helped me get my mornings
> on track smokefree
> *kisses*
> --
> :) Lynn <---DOF Leaper
> Smokers are a dying breed
>
>
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"fatbwoy" <> schreef in bericht ...
>
>> Three years, 0 minutes and 0 seconds. 49320 cigarettes not smoked, saving
>> ?
>> 0,00.
>
>
> 'nuff respect dutch one
> i only pop in here once in a while but i'm glad i caught this....
> there are a few sound genuine guys i remember in here and you are one of
> them
> you should be fookin proud mate what an achievement!
> nice one, dave, phat boy,
> 4y, 1m, 5d, 23h, 20m , 37s. 22469 cigarettes not smoked, saving £5,055.66
>
>
>
>
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"ok2bwild" <> schreef in bericht ...
> good on ya dutch! congrats and tanks for sticking around. love your
> rambles:)
>
> j
>
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"Kathleen" <> schreef in bericht ...
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"Jsteam" <> schreef in bericht ...
> P.S.
>
> Yeah, got mine off too, but my clogs are tenatitive, and not pink, but
> every 3 years,
> why not.
>
>
Being Dutch I had to google steady Eddie and found steadyeddie.org
which opened with a movie of a guy smoking and giving advice, lol. I
take it you mean a different one? ROFLMAO
I'm curious about your comments by the way. Thanks in advance for
reading my ramble and for the congrats. All the best in your quit,
Robin.
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"Jersey Girl" <> schreef in bericht ...
> WHA HOOOOOOO!! THREE YEARS OMG!! But of course we knew you would
> make it. I just hope you don't stop coming here and encouraging us.
> You are my mentor, without you no amount of clog dancing would cheer me
> and help me go on. Congrats to you and I'm so proud of you.
> xoxo
> Jersey
>
>
Lee
VOF sticking his tongue out at Joy since 1941
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"DutchVanVOF" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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"Lee in Duluth MN" <> schreef in bericht ...
Reminds me of a "joke":
Q: Why do husbands usually die before their wives?
A: Because they CAN
Lee
VOF
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"DutchVanVOF" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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Reminds me of a "joke":
Q: Why is divorce so expensive?
A: Because it's worth it.
By the way, it's not true that married men live longer than single men....
It only seems longer.
Robin.
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"Lee in Duluth MN" <> schreef in bericht ...
>I knew it, I just knew it. You guys saved the best fun for the VOF
>and OOF tubs. OK, have to admit I only knew this coz Raoul told
>me when I complained about the OF tubs not being 'all that'. Still,
>I'm not going to mess with a redhead.
Wise move. Very wise move.
Sue
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"Lynn" <> schreef in bericht ...
Becky
"DutchVanVOF" <zni...@fakeaddy.con> wrote in message
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> Thanks Becky. I'm glad you're back with us. Do miss you when you're not
> here. You know that, don't ya? Not just that. When we're in chat, your
> name
> often drops as someone we'd like to see quit the most. Don't ask me why,
> it
> just does. Please stick around till you make your quit stick. You know the
> one, the last one. *Your* quit. Again, ask for help if you could do with
> some. I know for sure plenty of people will love to try and help you make
> this quit work for you. All the best and a big hug from Holland,
> Robin.
> --
> Three That's the Magic Number
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> "Becky" <> schreef in bericht ...
>> Congratulations,Robin!!! Three years!!!! Im so inpressed!!!
>> Becky
>>
>
>
>
>
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> Yes! Nekkidness! Just what a guy needs! And pink clogs as well? I'm not
> worthy, lol.
>
> You; you know I love ya, and love having you as a friend. And if I helped
> you show a way out of this shite addiction it prolly is one of the better
> things I ever did. You know I feel kinda funny when you thank me for
> showing
> *you* the way, right? You do so much for me, to me it feels like *you* are
> showing *me* the way.
>
> Apart from keeping me sane at days I'm losing it, and reminding me some
> things are not worth getting worked up over, and that sometimes it's
> better
> to shrug shoulders at days I forget to do so; you are one of those people
> that have a way of making me want to fight and grow into a 'me' I like
> better.
>
> And if that doesn't already make life better, you making me laugh so often
> does. Not just when you're being stupid with me or when we do silly shit
> like having fake fights or troll other news groups, but you make me laugh
> about small things, about life, about myself.
>
> And the fact you're killing me in literati pretty much every time we play
> and show me my English is crap, just when I am all smug and convinced it
> is
> getting better doesn't make me less glad you're both my friend and me
> e-re-e.
>
> Thanks again for proofreading my drivel sweetie. But most of all, thanks
> for
> being you and for coming into my life
> Yer e-re-e.
> XxX
>
> Now, let's dance!
>
>
> --
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> "Cuckoo" <> schreef in bericht ...
>> WooooHooooooooSweetie!
>> I cannot snip one word of this fabulous post.
>> I'm proud of you.
>> Congrats on VOF and thank you sooo much for showing me the way.
>> the e-re-e
>> -taking off all her clothes, putting on her pink clogs and doing the
>> official 'welcome to the VOF tubs' dance.
>> xoxoxoxoxoxoxo
>>
>
>
>
>
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With hope and heart,
Kathleen
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He Himself is the fuel our spirits were designed to burn,
or the food our spirits were designed to feed on. There is no other.
~ C.S.Lewis
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/me sticks tongue out inna general direction of Kathleen and Cat.
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http://you-are-the-target.com/tarjar.html
DOF HOOF Ver 2.6 www.ciggyfree.com
WTG, Robin! It's been a pleasure following you up this path. You do a
great job, and show a huge amount of patience, in your work with the
newbies.
Just keep rollin' along and your legion of followers will keep pushin'
you along. ;)
Mike W. DOF1/2+
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But, yeah, am doing well. Just checked my meter and I'm past 5M, headed for
HOF. Again. LOL...better be the *last* time, too...
Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay committed!
Lane - Starting Over
Quit Stuff - www.diaryofaquitter.com
Bass stuff - www.laneonbass.com
Writing stuff - www.alifewithspirit.com
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> Hey Lane, you better believe I am having myself a silly clog dance. In
> them
> special MrLane way clogs. ;) Will never forget how often you made me
> laugh out loud Lane. And AFAIC we don't see enough of you here these days.
> Hope you're doing good there; both of you. Take care Lane and thanks again
> for all the support and laughter I found when I first walked in this
> place,
> Robin.
>
> --
> Three That's the Magic Number
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> "Lane Baldwin" <> schreef in bericht ...
>> Great post, Robin... and HUGE congrats to you on VOF!!!
>>
>> Have yourself a clog dance, bro... you deserve it.
>> --
>> Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay committed!
>>
>> Lane - Starting Over
>>
>> Quit Stuff - www.diaryofaquitter.com
>> Bass stuff - www.laneonbass.com
>> Writing stuff - www.alifewithspirit.com
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Congratulations Robin!!!!
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"Lane Baldwin" <la...@laneonbass.comSPAM.com> wrote in message
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Old timer?
OLD TIMER!?
Why, you little punk!
As soon as I find my glasses, my cane and my inhaler, I'm gonna get up--
with a little help from my attendant-- and kick you right in...
Hey; what happened to my sandwich?
Ann..OF plus 5 months etc
Great job as always on delivering another inspiring post.
Keep it up ;-)
Zack
DutchVanAfoort wrote:
> It's that time of the year again were I get to climb the soapbox and put a
> spotlight on myself to celebrate the defeat and exorcism of my nicoDemon by
> doing a little preaching to the choir and kick in a few open doors, after
And, for me, playing with my band is a celebration every moment. I'm so
excited to be working with two excellent musicians after an almost total
lack of playing since I moved here from Colorado. Before meeting them, I was
already pushing ahead on the CD... was going to hire in other musicians just
for that project. But these two appeared just as I was getting things going.
Next thing you know, we have a weekly gig on the patio of a local
cafe...Saturday from 5-8... home well before 9! And a totally laid back
atmosphere with an audience that is into what we're doing... focusing mostly
on originals, and filling the rest of our time with some traditional blues
and early blues/rock that we've reworked in our own way. It's been very good
for me musically, and especially vocally... has helped immensely in knocking
the rust off. Anyhoo.... I hope to release the CD in the spring next year.
(keeping fingers crossed)
Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay committed!
Lane - Starting Over
Quit Stuff - www.diaryofaquitter.com
Bass stuff - www.laneonbass.com
Writing stuff - www.alifewithspirit.com
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Thanks, Cat. Will pass along the x's and o's....
>Lane - Starting Over
Good for you! You have done so much for so many of us - let us know
what we can do to support you.
Thanks for being here!
Maude
OK...it's all right. Calm down... your heart monitor is going to go off
again and you know how you hate that sound. No, no... don't get up. You know
you hate to tire yourself so early in the day. Here's your sandwich...on the
floor under your bed where it fell when you knocked over your bed-tray...
again. We'll get you another one right away. Here... take these pills....
You'll be fine.
Really.
>Thanks Maude, not just for your kind words but also for enriching our lives
>with classic posts like the grocery store rants and the squirrel posts. Or
>in short, thanks for sharing your quit with us. It's really good having you
>here. All the very best,
Thank you, Robin. I'm pretty boring these days, but also pretty
happy. I can run, and laugh, and breathe - it doesn't get any better
than this. There are still days when I just lack the patience to buy
the groceries, though, and you can imagine what I said today when I
found the summer school staff had trashed my work computer . . .
Squirrels in their shorts would just be a beginning!
Maude