this is too hard
BZ
relentless push to give in. It doesnt go away and it wont give me
peace. I thought my physical addiction was over at this point....i
went off my chantix at week #3. Its like someone is knocking loudly
on my door while I try to rest, but every time I go to answer, there
is nobody there. :-(
If I havenbt taken my chantix in 2.5 days, is it too late to get back
on it? And here I was a week ago complaining about not being able to
find a doctor for a 2 month prescription....and then I do get one and
i go off the stuff
im going absolutely insane
f-word!
BillMc
getting back on the Chantix, it is better than smoking again by about a
hundred million times.
You seem to be going through the process of weaning yourself off the
chantix and smokes. I used 4 kinds of NRT, even to include valium to be
calm. I stayed with the NRT, until I could forget whether I had taken it
or not.
Look if its too uncomfortable use the tools you are given, in this case
Chantix. Use all the tools in the tool box, if they help you not smoke.
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Cheri
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BZ, it is *not* too late, it's never too late. Get back on the
Chantix, and if you've smoked, get back on the wagon. I did stop the
Chantix after two weeks, and I haven't had a huge problem, at least
nothing that seems huge, a few urges, but nothing huge like your
cravings are sounding, so get back on it. Some people need it longer
than others, but there's no one right way IMO. Some people quit cold
turkey, some people use stop smoking aids etc., I needed Chantix to
get me started, and I think you need it to keep you going for a bit
longer. Best to you, and please don't stop posting or trying.
Cheri
FlatIronMike
script. Three weeks and then stopping is very abrubt in my 3-cent
opinion and it's better to take it until it's doing nothing for you
than to have the craziness you are experiencing now.
Hang Tuff
You CAN do this!
FlatironMike
One year, six months, three weeks, two days, 14 hours, 26 minutes and
51 seconds. 11412 cigarettes not smoked, saving $3,423.36. Life saved:
5 weeks, 4 days, 15 hours, 0 minutes.
Jef.
> what the hell is this?!? It just wont stop...this craving....it is a
> relentless push to give in. It doesnt go away and it wont give me
Correct. The function of a craving is to lure you back into chaos and ill
health.
It's not disposed to provide you with peace.
You give yourself peace by fighting it. Strange, no? Peace through
combat...?
Thing is, the craving will go away-- regardless of whether or not you feed
it.
Soooo... . just don't feed it. Decide that you'll be stronger than a
momentary, fidgety annoyance.
Yeah, it's hard-- but not too hard. Heart disease is harder. Emphysema is
pretty damn hard.
*Cancer* is much too hard. They all score much higher on the "hard to bear"
scale than a craving for a smoke.
What's a few minutes of discomfort and anxiety in the long run...?
Do the (emotional/physical) math.
I wish you strength.
Cheri
Jef. wrote in message ...
>Yeah, it's hard-- but not too hard. Heart disease is harder.
Emphysema is
>pretty damn hard.
>*Cancer* is much too hard. They all score much higher on the "hard to
bear"
>scale than a craving for a smoke.
>What's a few minutes of discomfort and anxiety in the long run...?
Some people spend a whole lifetime smoking and never get the above
mentioned, and some people who never smoke do, however...the cost of
cigarettes is utterly ridiculous, and that's really hard to justify
too. Cigarette tax...to pay or not to pay...cigarettes are not a
necessity of life, so it's one tax you can absolutely refuse to pay.
This group, and that thought keeps me going. :-)
Cheri
One month, four days, 23 hours, 32 minutes and 33 seconds. 1079
cigarettes not smoked, saving $242.87. Life saved: 3 days, 17 hours,
55 minutes.
BZ
>
> im going absolutely insane
>
> f-word!
>
I'm still on the wagon, but still feeling it ... just trying to get a
seat near the front right now. It's a bumpy ride indeed. Can't wait
till I get home and relax. Sorry, didn't mean to be discouraging to
anyone. Just needed to let loose. I think it helped.
Lynn
off? I would get my butt back on them if it was me.
I went off the patch when I was week 3 and it was hard like going through
hellweek all over again. the pain will go away just either hang onto the way
your doing it right now or go back on chantrix until you feel stronger.
I am a big believer in "your body your experiment"
--
:) Lynn VOF+ Leaper
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."
"BZ" <tkan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Marvin The Paranoid Android
Not discouraging at all!
We've been there -- we're the guys singing thru the bus speakers at you
... http://www.johnphoto.com/retro/holdOnImComing.html
The ride gets easier -- the crave's a great reminder that you're alive
at this very moment -- the only time you really can be alive. They're a
gift!
Stay strong!!!! It's worth it!
Cheers & High-Fives!
-- Marvin
I have been quit for 4 Years, 1 Week, 4 Days, 9 hours, 9 minutes and 18
seconds (1,472 days).
I have saved $7,656.37 by not smoking 19,140 cigarettes.
I have saved 2 Months, 5 Days and 11 hours of my life.
My Quit Date: 8/23/2004 8:00 AM
--
I don't smoke. I smell like bread. Life is Good.
Stephanie
Jef that is a great post.
My heart goes out to you BZ. I remember feeling that exact same way.
But I didn't smoke to relieve it and now have 22 months (almost) smoke-
free.
Does it help to know that what a craving is is trying to relieve the
withdrawal from the previous cigarette? For some reason that really
helped me, to know that a craving would only be reignited, reinvented,
reborn anew upon my smoking to relieve the craving from the previous
cigarette. Also made me furious at the tobacco companies for this
ingenius feat of neuroscientific hijacking that more likely than not
would kill us if we continued it.
All best wishes.
Stephanie
One year, nine months, three weeks, three days, 3 hours, 38 minutes
and 44 seconds ago I made a Decision. That Decision means I have not
smoked 6631 cigarettes, saving $2,486.66, not to mention 3 weeks, 2
days, 35 minutes of my Life.
Lynn
beneficial for newbies to see that yes they aren't alone and although it
does get better there are still bad days. Imagine what you would think if
you thought you were the only one to have craves after hellweek. feel pretty
alone, I would.
there was a huge discussion here a couple of years ago that someone felt it
was not right an OF or more came here and bitched about having a crave.
someone thought we should protect the newbies from life's little shitty
days. try googling it sometime.
--
:) Lynn VOF+ Leaper
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."
"BZ" <tkan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8f034989-4014-4210-ad43-
Cheri
Lynn wrote in message
> there was a huge discussion here a couple of years ago that someone
felt it
>was not right an OF or more came here and bitched about having a
crave.
>someone thought we should protect the newbies from life's little
shitty
>days. try googling it sometime.
I think honesty is pretty essential. If you're having cravings, and I
can see that happening with long time smokers, then I think it's best
to say it, so others don't think they're the only ones. I think we all
have our ways of dealing with it. Some get mad at the tobacco
companies, some get mad at the cost, some just get mad, but we are all
in it to quit tobacco and I want to hear true experiences. Glossing
over it is a tobacco company tactic. :-)
Cheri
Pam
Don't go insane (you won't, you know), It's just an addiction - it can
be beat. Your mind set is your own worst enemy. Why would you let this
nicodemon rule your life? Pretty stupid, huh? Hang in there - do
whatever needs to be done to beat this SOB. Hugs, Pam
DavidL
After my last cig, I took 2 Chantix a day for 6 weeks and 1 a day for
another 3.5 weeks.
My doctor wanted me to keep taking it for 6 months.
I'd say get on it, and stay on it, till the doctor says to quit.
DutchVanOOF
try to keep either busy or sleeping. Reading and posting here works
but pampering ones self has never hurt anyone either. You'll know
what makes you feel best. The craves will go with time. Just take it
one day at a time.
"BZ" <> schreef in bericht ...
Henry
available at the next reality but you will still be addicted , that truely
would be hell.
just a thought.
Henry
DavidL
Maybe more than "just a thought".
Precious...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Amen to Stephanies post! I was trying to respond to this post...but,
it was worded much to clumsy to be of any use! But, then, when I ran
across Stephanie's post...it is EXACTLY what I wanted to say, only
worded much better! :)
Knowing that "a craving is is trying to relieve the withdrawal from
the previous cigarette" helped me IMMENSELY. Once you put it in those
terms, and look at it from that perspective, it was MUCH easier to
deal with.
I've been quit for over a year. My evening at work was HELL. HELL.
I didn't have anything to drink, I didn't get to pee, I worked
steadily. I didn't get to eat...9 hours of NOT ONE FLIPPIN' BREAK.
My co-worker, who was having an equally delightful evening said, "I
bet you wish this was one of those days that you drank" (I've never
been a drinker...just never cared for it...probably had 5 alcoholic
beverages in the past year)...I said, "no, not really". She then
said, "I bet you wished you could go smoke". Before I could answer
her comment, she said (she is a lifelong NON SMOKER)...in her NON
SMOKING WISDOM..."nahhh...I bet you don't...how would you have ever
got all this work done if you had to go smoke? you would have been
FREAKIN' OUT trying to get out for a smoke"! How true. I didn't have
to worry about relieving nicotine withdrawal symptoms. I had no
desire, urge, crave, or, even thought of that. I had lots of anxiety,
stress, irratability happening...BUT...at least, I wasn't consumed
with FURY because I couldn't go smoke!!!
So...I hope that your craves have simmered down for you. You will
have good days and bad...but, know that it gets better! Anxiety will
always be an ever present factor in everyone's lives...but, nicotine
withdrawal cravings do not have to be a part of it. I am relieved
that I no longer carry that monkey on my back!
Take good care of your quit. Post here, Read here...it helps so much
to get the support of everyone here! I don't post a lot, but, I do
read faithfully! :)
PreciousKittyKat =^..^=
One year, three weeks, three days, 22 hours, 48 minutes and 19
seconds. 7819 cigarettes not smoked, saving $2,345.70. Life saved: 3
weeks, 6 days, 3 hours, 35 minutes.
BZ
I'd like to respond to all of you individually but I think I can sum
it up...
I didn't give in. I fought it. I went back to my Chantx last night
too. Sorry if i scared pfizer shareholders on here ;-). Will
continue till done.
The resulting analogy from all of your support about taking pills &
withdrawal vs. lung cancer & eternal damnation was spot on. I never
liked taking pills, even aspirin....so why would I inhale toxic
chemicals?! Only the damned tobacco execs can answer that....I cant.
It is despicable how as much as they lie about how smoking "doesnt
cause this" and "doesnt cause that"....they never actually give 1 good
reason to smoke!!!! Is it ok to smoke because it doesnt cause lung
cancer? LOL How dumb! Well...i'm fooling them now. Its my turn.
They can look at their sales charts and see a big fat ZERO next to my
name. Your product is weak with a horrible business plan. If I can
reject your product now, then you are DOOMED. The more I quit, the
longer I live, the more deeply impoverished you will become you sorry
bastards!!!!!!!!!!! And I hope you quit smoking too and have to
experience HELLWEEK EVERY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you all again, for the 543rd time these past 3 Weeks, 5 Days, 12
Hours, 36 Minutes, and 7 Seconds
DavidL
Add this to your signature line
BZ
> Add this to your signature line
>
Excellent idea David! Hows this look?
- Bryan
*
3 Weeks, 5 Days, 15 Hours, 36 Minutes
*
They can look at their sales charts and see a big fat ZERO next to my
name.
*
Robbster
"Try killing dirt, weeds, that closet you wanted to clean out, walk the
dog (again), brush the cat, clean the birdcage, sew, paint, prune some
fruit trees or shrubs - there's a lot you haven't event started to get
done, ;-))
Work hard, tire yourself out, avoid people (or it will be their own
fault if they are killed), take a bath and then a nap. Repeat as required."
You will survive - hang in here and keep posting!
Hugs,
robbster
Kathleen
With hope and heart,
Kathleen
"BZ" <tkan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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BZ
> I love it. My husband quit about 3 weeks ago - I'm watching you!!!!!!!
> With hope and heart,
> Kathleen
>
Congratulations to your husband! I hope he is doing well. And what
about you? How are you doing? My wife is very very patient ;-)
I learned it is important to stick to one's plan. If you want any
more details, just ask anytime! I've nothing to hide about this.
- Bryan
3 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, 14 minutes and 21 seconds
I have saved $201.64 by choosing not to smoke 672 cigarettes.
Most importantly, I saved 0 weeks, 5 days 3 hours 13 minutes of my
life
Kathleen
quit - I raged, cussed, and cried. He has been more talkative and it is as
if there is not much of a filter between what he thinks and what he says.
So I have given him a 4 month grace period to get it all out! lol He quit
the chantix a few days ago then took one again last night. I am eagerly
awaiting the libido phase to kick in. <eg> I have everyone I know praying
for him, and I have had to referee between he and DD because "he is
annoying" and not funny enough to her (but hilarious to me, for the most
part).
He also can't walk very far without his leg hurting - so he has a powerful
reminder of what smoking has done to him so far. He goes in for some more
tests tomorrow and then a week from Monday we will find out if he needs
surgery or not.
With hope and heart,
Kathleen
"BZ" <tkan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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PolarBear
want fall down. We are a big family and don't let any one fall of the wagon
unless it's their own doing.
stay strong and you can do it as many of off.
PolarBear
--
"There is a light at the end of every
tunnel ..just pray it's not a train!"
/me walking in a tunnel until she finds the light.
"BZ" <tkan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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PolarBear
get easier and easier and you will think less and less about smoking.
believe me I quiet so many times and each time I learned something new.
you can do it
PolarBear
--
"There is a light at the end of every
tunnel ..just pray it's not a train!"
/me walking in a tunnel until she finds the light.
"BZ" <tkan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> what the hell is this?!? It just wont stop...this craving....it is a
> relentless push to give in. It doesnt go away and it wont give me
> peace. I thought my physical addiction was over at this point....i
> went off my chantix at week #3. Its like someone is knocking loudly
> on my door while I try to rest, but every time I go to answer, there
> is nobody there. :-(
>
> If I havenbt taken my chantix in 2.5 days, is it too late to get back
> on it? And here I was a week ago complaining about not being able to
> find a doctor for a 2 month prescription....and then I do get one and
> i go off the stuff
>
DutchVanOOF
tests.
"Kathleen" <> schreef in bericht ...
Kathleen
And Mike, and Keven, and everyone else who has inquired.
With hope and heart,
Kathleen
"DutchVanOOF" <Zni...@fakeAddy.con> wrote in message
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Lynn
Jef used to do.
--
:) Lynn VOF+ Leaper
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."
"Kathleen" <lovebi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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DavidL
> Thank you Robin!
> And Mike, and Keven, and everyone else who has inquired.
> With hope and heart,
> Kathleen
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Dunno how I missed this...
(Yes I do. I was wrapped up in self).
Congratulations!!!!!!!
Tell DD she'll go thru the same thing should she decide to start
smoking and have to quit.
PolarBear
> I love it. My husband quit about 3 weeks ago - I'm watching you!!!!!!!
> With hope and heart,
> Kathleen
>
>
> news:d86eaec3-1695-4dd0...@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 4, 12:34 pm, DavidL wrote:
>
> > Add this to your signature line
>
> Excellent idea David! Hows this look?
>
> - Bryan
> *
> 3 Weeks, 5 Days, 15 Hours, 36 Minutes
> *
> They can look at their sales charts and see a big fat ZERO next to my
> name.
> *
This is great news Kathleen. You must be so happy and he has so much
support and someone on his site who understands how difficult quitting
can be. I am so happy for you.
PolarBear
BZ
and a smoke-free life. If he made it this far smober, he will do
fine....and he has some great support right there with him :-)
Today at midnight marks completion of the 4th week (not a full 31-day
month though). No, my libido phase hasn't gone into overdrive yet
either. lol!! I think its a myth or a joke? I have had some "average
days" and some "horribly rotten days". This nicodemon inside likes to
surprise, it doesn't announce itself.
-Bryan
3 Weeks, 6 Days, 11 Hours, 17 Minutes
Kathleen
God, how I do NOT miss that morning routine.
COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH
COUGH COUGH COUGH
COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH
COUGH COUGH
COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH
COUGH COUGH COUGH
"DavidL" <Dvd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Kathleen
"BZ" <tkan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Lynn
not a joke. lets just hope your up for the challenge... so to speak
--
:) Lynn VOF+ Leaper
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."
"BZ" <tkan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:a473529f-c2dd-412c-a8d7
-No, my libido phase hasn't gone into overdrive yet
either. lol!! I think its a myth or a joke?
BZ
then ..... need to get that out of the way before libido kicks
in.....because my wife wont come near me ;-)
LOL
On Sep 6, 9:33 am, "Lynn" <lynn.sc...@ns.spammenotsympatico.ca> wrote:
> was the farting stage a joke? didn't you smell those? The libido stage is
> not a joke. lets just hope your up for the challenge... so to speak
> --
> :) Lynn VOF+ Leaper
> "Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."
>
> "BZ" <tkano...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:a473529f-c2dd-412c-a8d7