Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

SD and my 6 month old dtr

0 views
Skip to first unread message

Chatte...@webtv.net

unread,
Dec 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/13/99
to
I have a ?, and some of you may find it petty, but it is a big issue
that worries me. My hubby and I have had custody of his dtr since April
1998 (who is now 8) and had a daughter of our own on 6-24-99, here is
the problem, I am so afraid that my own daughter is gonna call me by my
first name and not mom, since SD only calls me mom about 5% of the time.
Has anyone had experience with this? I am open to all advice I can get.

Thanks---Kelly


Anne Robotti

unread,
Dec 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/13/99
to
Hi Kelly,

I can relate to that completely. I had a lot of concerns just like
these when my daughter was born, and all through my pregnancy. I
don't think they're petty at all, if you want to hear petty email
me privately and I'll tell you some of the things *I* worried about! :)
And I don't think *they* were petty either, I think they were the
normal concerns of someone who wants everything with her baby to be
perfect and has a part of the situation that they can't really control.

What you might want to expect and be prepared to deal with is your SD
beginning to call you Mom when you refer to yourself that way to the
baby. You and DH can decide together how you want to handle that. But
my BD, now 3, has sometimes fooled around with calling me Anne because
my SD does, and I've always just pretended she was being silly and
gently corrected her. Very young children are very malleable about
things like this, put your mind at rest.

Also, some feelings toward SD may come up that you're not expecting,
some resentment and some anger. That's okay, and I hope you'll come
to the group with it. I had no one to talk to about it, and the few
people I did trust enough to approach with it couldn't really under-
stand.

Let me know if you want to talk offline, I've totally been where you
are. :)

Anne

jane lawrence

unread,
Dec 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/13/99
to
Chatte...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> I have a ?, and some of you may find it petty, but it is a big issue
> that worries me. My hubby and I have had custody of his dtr since April
> 1998 (who is now 8) and had a daughter of our own on 6-24-99, here is
> the problem, I am so afraid that my own daughter is gonna call me by my
> first name and not mom, since SD only calls me mom about 5% of the time.
> Has anyone had experience with this? I am open to all advice I can get.
>
I do, and I don't. I just mentioned in another post that BD
called me by my first name for years. After all, everyone else
called me "Jane," why wouldn't she? When she went to day care
around 2 1/2 or 3, the workers said things like "Give this to
Mommy," and she picked it up.

Of course the rest of my post dealt with her calling every other
adult female caregiver in her life "Mommy," too, but we don't
need to go there. Trust me. Your child will know that you are
her mother, no matter what she calls you.

jane

nicky

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
When we adopted, we converted what were essentially total strangers aged 3
and 6 to calling us Mum and Dad in around 6 months. It happens naturally
enough, as the child perceives you fulfilling that role. Also, I hear quite
a few young kids (from birth/bio-family-only scenarios) sometimes call their
parents by their first names - just because they want to try out what it
sounds like, or what reaction it'll get, I think. As other posters have
said, we usualy say casually 'that's Mum/Dad to you' and it passes without
becoming an issue.

Nicky

Chatte...@webtv.net wrote in message
<12751-38...@storefull-276.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...


I have a ?, and some of you may find it petty, but it is a big issue
that worries me. My hubby and I have had custody of his dtr since April
1998 (who is now 8) and had a daughter of our own on 6-24-99, here is
the problem, I am so afraid that my own daughter is gonna call me by my
first name and not mom, since SD only calls me mom about 5% of the time.
Has anyone had experience with this? I am open to all advice I can get.

Thanks---Kelly


Sian Lee Reid

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
> Chatte...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > I have a ?, and some of you may find it petty, but it is a big issue
> > that worries me. My hubby and I have had custody of his dtr since April
> > 1998 (who is now 8) and had a daughter of our own on 6-24-99, here is
> > the problem, I am so afraid that my own daughter is gonna call me by my
> > first name and not mom, since SD only calls me mom about 5% of the time.
> > Has anyone had experience with this? I am open to all advice I can get.
> >
I worried about that! Didn't happen. Not consistently at any rate. I
think that I reinforced my daughter's idea of me as 'Mommy' by not using a
lot of pronouns (now that she's four, I have to consciously stop myself
from using these rather strange constructions; they've become somewhat
ingrained!)

For example: Instead of saying, 'Are you hungry? Should I get you a
cookie?' I'd say "Is Emily hungry? Should Mommy get Emily a cookie?" So
she has always called me Mommy, even though her brother and sister do not.

She only seems to revert to first names, for both DH and myself, when
asked to call for one of us. If DH says to her, 'Call Mommy and tell her
to get ready.' she'll holler up the stairs, "Siaaaaan!"

Sian

Tracey

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
>She only seems to revert to first names, for both DH and myself, when
>asked to call for one of us. If DH says to her, 'Call Mommy and tell her
>to get ready.' she'll holler up the stairs, "Siaaaaan!"

I told our daughter to tell her dad dinner was ready the other night and
she yelled down the stairs 'Mr. Sean's Daddy Sir! Dinner's ready!'

Tracey
--

In dog years.....I'd be dead.

jane lawrence

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
Tracey wrote:
>
> >She only seems to revert to first names, for both DH and myself, when
> >asked to call for one of us. If DH says to her, 'Call Mommy and tell her
> >to get ready.' she'll holler up the stairs, "Siaaaaan!"
>
> I told our daughter to tell her dad dinner was ready the other night and
> she yelled down the stairs 'Mr. Sean's Daddy Sir! Dinner's ready!'
>
Oh, Tracey, that's priceless!

jane

Didi Jakubowski

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
Kelly,

All 3 of my bio children called me "Didi" for a period of time when they were
young toddlers. I agree with Jane in that it was probably because they heard
everyone else around us do so.

Just refer to yourself as "Mommy" when you speak to your baby, and everything
will be fine.

Didi
Mother to Caitlin, 10, Patrick, 8, Meagan, 6, and Step-mother to Kayla, 7.
"A dead thing can go with a stream, only a living thing can go against it."
G.K. Chesterton

Tia Trantham

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
When my son, bio, calls me by my first name he smiles and then tries to run!
He knows that I'll tickle him to death for that.

Tia

jane lawrence <jan...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3855B8E9...@excite.com...


> Chatte...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > I have a ?, and some of you may find it petty, but it is a big issue
> > that worries me. My hubby and I have had custody of his dtr since April
> > 1998 (who is now 8) and had a daughter of our own on 6-24-99, here is
> > the problem, I am so afraid that my own daughter is gonna call me by my
> > first name and not mom, since SD only calls me mom about 5% of the time.
> > Has anyone had experience with this? I am open to all advice I can get.
> >

jane lawrence

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
Didi Jakubowski wrote:
>
>
> Just refer to yourself as "Mommy" when you speak to your baby, and everything
> will be fine.

Am I weird? I never cared AT ALL about being called "Mommy."
Not one tiny smidgen. I never referred to myself in the third
person as "Mommy." I never told me kid to call me "Mommy." I
think I never associated the relationship with the word at all.
Do you think it's because I breastfed? Or because I was a
single parent by the time she really started talking?

jane

Nikki Murphy

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
Maybe for some people it's got to do with being a stepmom first and bio mom second,
as opposed to yourself bio mom first stepmom second.

I know for me it's not to do with the name (and although my SS calls me Mum that's
irrelevant - but especially cos he forgets and calls me Nikki most of the time) but
I just can't wait for some little cute toddler to give me the 'you're my mum' look
or behave a little possessively around me or all those things that i've never
experienced

N

Vicki Robinson

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
In a previous article, jane lawrence <jan...@excite.com> said:

>Am I weird? I never cared AT ALL about being called "Mommy."
>Not one tiny smidgen. I never referred to myself in the third
>person as "Mommy." I never told me kid to call me "Mommy." I
>think I never associated the relationship with the word at all.
>Do you think it's because I breastfed? Or because I was a
>single parent by the time she really started talking?
>

You're weird. I *love* being called "Mom." When Stevie's hamster died last
year, as tall and mature as she is, she cried "MOMMY!" when she found
his little body. Laura wrote me a letter when she was four, big staggery
letters "Mommy I love you Laura". I remember lots of occasions that were
made all the sweeter by my kids' voices calling "Mom! Look at this/watch me/
guess what/..."

I always wanted them to call me Mommy and I reveled in it. I still do. I
hope they never stop.

Vicki
--
Mediation and Alternative Dispute Resolution Resources:
http://www.rit.edu/~vjrnts/mediation/mediation.html
The alt.folklore.urban FAQ and archive can be found at
http://www.urbanlegends.com/

lilblakdog

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
Vicki Robinson <vic...@panix.com> wrote in message
news:8360r8$qhg$1...@panix7.panix.com...

> When Stevie's hamster died last
> year, as tall and mature as she is, she cried "MOMMY!" when she found
> his little body.

<smile>

This is one I'm not looking forward to. First of all, I love the little
buggers and *I'm* probably going to be screaming, "MOMMY!"

But also--even though he's not around them very much--I'm sure it's going to
upset my stepson. Sometimes I think it would be best to just go to the
petstore and replace her with one who looks exactly the same!

But she's such a sweet-tempered little thing that I doubt I could find one
good enough to fool him.

lil (who's just about to hit the one year mark for the babies and has *no*
idea how old their mother is)
--
Who is at fault when a monster is a monster? Is it the monster? Or the
person who created it to be a monster?

Tracey

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
In article <385661C6...@excite.com>, jane lawrence <jan...@excite.com>
writes:

>Oh, Tracey, that's priceless!

Yeah, she's a card, our daughter. DH told her one night that
the world did not revolve around her. She immediately shot
back 'The world *does* revolve around me, Daddy.' I guess
it's my fault. Of course, it's *always* my fault <grin>

Tracey

Sian Lee Reid

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
In article <385683DB...@excite.com>, jane lawrence
<jan...@excite.com> wrote:


> Am I weird? I never cared AT ALL about being called "Mommy."
> Not one tiny smidgen. I never referred to myself in the third
> person as "Mommy." I never told me kid to call me "Mommy." I
> think I never associated the relationship with the word at all.
> Do you think it's because I breastfed? Or because I was a
> single parent by the time she really started talking?
>

You may be weird. I don't think your indifference to 'Mommy' had anything
causal to do with breastfeeding. I nursed my daughter for four years. I
still wanted to be called Mommy. I nursed my god-daughter when I was
caring for her when she and my little one were both babies, and I had no
expectation that *she'd* call me Mom!

Sian

jane lawrence

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to

I was just thinking that maybe because I BF, there never seemed
to be any issue to me about who the mother was. Of course, I
never nursed any other babies.

You think it might be because I never called my mother "Mommy?"

jane

Vicki Robinson

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to

[hamsters singing in the choir eternal]

>
>But also--even though he's not around them very much--I'm sure it's going to
>upset my stepson. Sometimes I think it would be best to just go to the
>petstore and replace her with one who looks exactly the same!
>

When Stevie was about 5 or so, I had to take our old dog to be euthanized.
We were all basket-cases about it; my then-husband had to simply retreat from
the whole thing, he was so broken up.

Stevie, eyes streaming, patted Sachie good-bye. I put Sachie in the car,
and got behind the wheel. My little Stevie, howling in grief, leaned out of
the door and said, between sobs, "On the way home, could you stop and pick up
a kitty?"

They live through it.

When Laura's class' guinea pig died, she erected a monument in our front
yard. She took a board, and carefully lettered, in blue magic marker, that
this marker was in memory of Cupid, the world's best guinea pig. She then
painstakeingly drew a picture of Cupid on the board, in same blue magic
marker. She dug the board into the ground, so it stood up like a tomb
stone. I went to look at it, and noticed small lettering under the Cupid's
portrait. Looking closely, I saw that she had written in tiny letters

(not actual color)

I just love my kids.

Didi Jakubowski

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
Jane asked:

>Am I weird?

I wouldn't say that you are "weird". You may just have other things that are a
priority for you.

I breastfed all 3 of my children, and I am looking forward to breastfeeding
this baby coming. I don't think that that had anything to do with it for me.

I *do* love to hear the kids call me "Mommy"..... It just sounds so sweet.
Although, my SD has started calling me "Mama", and it kind of bothers me. I
don't know why it bothers me. My husband told her to call me "Miss Didi" which
seems a little formal, but she started calling me "Mama" after the wedding. I
know that she calls her mother "Mommy", so maybe this is her way of
differentiating between the two households.

Sarai

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
Im just curious, and you seem to be the best person to ask this Kevin, how
exactly did the US and UK come to be differentiated when it comes to the
spelling/pronounciation of mom/mum? I know that the US started spelling
certain words different after the revolution, like honor and realize and
color etc. Just wondering...

heather m

Kevin wrote in message ...
>After being on this group for a while and getting very used to seeing the
>spelling 'Mom', I inadvertantly used it in an email to my mother in
>Australia . . . instead of the usual 'Mum'.
>
>She got . . . quite upset about it, and thought it was like I was
>talking to some stranger. I just said "no, I know who I'm talking to.
>These days when I think 'Mum' my fingers go to the most recent and
>frequent spelling..."
>
>But I thought it was wierd. Like she 'possessed' something that i had
>threatened.
>
>?
>
>Kevin
>
>In article <19991214162423...@ng-fp1.aol.com>, Didi
>Jakubowski says...

>--
>Do not take life too seriously.
>You will never get out of it alive.

jane lawrence

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
Vicki Robinson wrote:
>

>
> I just love my kids.

You do tell the best stories about your kids.

jane

jane lawrence

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
Kevin wrote:
>
> In article <3856B0BA...@excite.com>, jane lawrence says...

> > You think it might be because I never called my mother "Mommy?"
> >
> Yes... but why did you never call your mother "Mommy"? Perhaps there lies
> an answer. Not that I think you need have an answer for it. Seems OK
> enough to me : )
>
I think this is totally off-topic now.

My mother, whom I addressed as "Mother" as a child, spoke to us
the same way she spoke to anyone else. The word "mommy" never
came out of her mouth, as far as I remember. In fact, I'm not
sure I've ever said it aloud. I do remember calling her "Ma"
once. She asked me if I were impersonating a Bowery Boy.

She never used any of those other "kiddie" words, either. We
never used words like: pee, poop, bum, jammies, or sketties.

Anyway, I've been thinking about this. What do adults call
their mothers? BD usually calls me "Mom" now. SD, OTOH, still
uses "Mummy." Do people switch at some point? What point is
it?

jane

jane lawrence

unread,
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
to
Sarai wrote:
>
> Im just curious, and you seem to be the best person to ask this Kevin, how
> exactly did the US and UK come to be differentiated when it comes to the
> spelling/pronounciation of mom/mum? I know that the US started spelling
> certain words different after the revolution, like honor and realize and
> color etc. Just wondering...

I thought it was Teddy Roosevelt's idea. Or was it Calvin
Coolidge?

jane

Kevin

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
In article <836d10$9ja$1...@news.panix.com>, Vicki Robinson says...

> When Laura's class' guinea pig died, she erected a monument in our front
> yard. She took a board, and carefully lettered, in blue magic marker, that
> this marker was in memory of Cupid, the world's best guinea pig. She then
> painstakeingly drew a picture of Cupid on the board, in same blue magic
> marker. She dug the board into the ground, so it stood up like a tomb
> stone. I went to look at it, and noticed small lettering under the Cupid's
> portrait. Looking closely, I saw that she had written in tiny letters
>
> (not actual color)
>
> I just love my kids.
>
That is just so adorable!

Kevin

Kevin

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
In article <3856B0BA...@excite.com>, jane lawrence says...
> You think it might be because I never called my mother "Mommy?"
>
Yes... but why did you never call your mother "Mommy"? Perhaps there lies
an answer. Not that I think you need have an answer for it. Seems OK
enough to me : )

Kevin

Kevin

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to

?

Kevin

--

Kevin

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
I gather....

.... some US words and pronunciations have _remained_ in use from the
time of the 17th or 18th centuries. Like 'gotten', the pronunciation of
the letter 'Z' (Zee instead of Zed), saying 'an herb' instead of 'a herb'
(with sounded 'h') as they do in the UK these days. All these things were
at one time or another a part of the UK usage, and just didn't change in
the US once there was a clear split in the countries. Not having
electronic communication whould have kept the separation with ease too.

use of '-ize' instead of '-ise' ditto. The UK used to spell those words
with a 'z' too.

As for Mom and Mum . . . looks like tomorrow I will give a call to the
Oxford University Press where they pump out that huge dictionary, and
where they have a service called OWLS - Oxford English Dictionary Word
and Language Service. I can see the building from my window...

Kevin

In article <836osu$bdu$2...@news.ipa.net>, Sarai says...


> Im just curious, and you seem to be the best person to ask this Kevin, how
> exactly did the US and UK come to be differentiated when it comes to the
> spelling/pronounciation of mom/mum? I know that the US started spelling
> certain words different after the revolution, like honor and realize and
> color etc. Just wondering...
>

> heather m
>
> Kevin wrote in message ...

Kevin

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
In article <3856EC34...@excite.com>, jane lawrence says...

> Kevin wrote:
> >
> > In article <3856B0BA...@excite.com>, jane lawrence says...
> > > You think it might be because I never called my mother "Mommy?"
> > >
> > Yes... but why did you never call your mother "Mommy"? Perhaps there lies
> > an answer. Not that I think you need have an answer for it. Seems OK
> > enough to me : )
> >
> I think this is totally off-topic now.
>
> My mother, whom I addressed as "Mother" as a child, spoke to us
> the same way she spoke to anyone else. The word "mommy" never
> came out of her mouth, as far as I remember. In fact, I'm not
> sure I've ever said it aloud. I do remember calling her "Ma"
> once. She asked me if I were impersonating a Bowery Boy.

Ah right, I get the picture. Sure, that would make sense - your own
unfamiliarity with using 'mom' meant you never referred to yourself with
that name . . . yes? You followed suit, your kids follow suit. If it
didnt mean the same to you as it does culturally to loads of people . .
that's not weird.

What interests me is the way the sound 'mmmm' or muh muh muh, is such a
primal one, and I gather is assumed to stem from the sound a baby makes
when seeking a feed... It seems to be almost universal? . . . I don't
know, I have a friend who is a scholar of Sanskrit, maybe she'll know if
it was in that language.


>
> She never used any of those other "kiddie" words, either. We
> never used words like: pee, poop, bum, jammies, or sketties.

I don't even know what 'sketties' are...

Kevin


>
> Anyway, I've been thinking about this. What do adults call
> their mothers? BD usually calls me "Mom" now. SD, OTOH, still
> uses "Mummy." Do people switch at some point? What point is
> it?
>
> jane
>

--

Nikki Murphy

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
Yes but I'm in the UK and in my family it's Mom not Mum. My Mom was always Mom and
she calls her Mom the same. It's just she decided she liked that better than Mum.
She writes it Mom too. Stepson noticed I called her Mom and it was just the name
he picked.

Oh and Kevin, if I called my Mom Mum she would be upset the same way your mother
was the other way around. She'd be fine when I explained it was a mistake though -
just for your information!

My ss used to call his Mum Mum when he moved in with us aged 6.5. But she
persisted with the Mummy thing. He had only said Mummy as a baby and had called
her Mum at least since I met him aged 5 and a month. She liked Mummy so tried to
stick with it. She eventually got the message when he was about 9 and now signs
Mum. I think I'd like to be Mom like my Mom, but SS calls me Mum.

N

Kevin wrote:

nicky

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to

Sarai wrote in message <836osu$bdu$2...@news.ipa.net>...

>Im just curious, and you seem to be the best person to ask this Kevin, how
>exactly did the US and UK come to be differentiated when it comes to the
>spelling/pronounciation of mom/mum? I know that the US started spelling
>certain words different after the revolution, like honor and realize and
>color etc. Just wondering...


fwiw - it is also Mom in South Africa.

Which made it a *real* mental effort switching to Mum to make it simpler for
our kids here in the UK. The odd thing is, I'm from German stock so I call
*my* mother either Mama or Mutti. Which our boys seem to have picked up,
because I increasingly get called Mama - and that quite tickles me :)

Nicky

jane lawrence

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
Kevin wrote:
>
>
>
> I don't even know what 'sketties' are...

Spaghetti. That's what we called pasta in the olden days.

jane

Kevin

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
according to.... OWLS

'Mom' and 'Mum' (and Mommy and Mummy) came into its current usage around
the same time in both countries - late 19th century. The spelling is
understood to have evolved independently. The person I spoke to said that
the trouble with finding accurate information on this kind of child
oriented word is that it starts long before people take notice enough to
record its usage.

There's no known usage of the spelling 'Mom' in the UK, except for a
certain family known as 'Murphy' located in deepest England....

Any other info anyone?

Kevin

In article <38575595...@impactwp.com>, Nikki Murphy says...

> > > Im just curious, and you seem to be the best person to ask this Kevin, how
> > > exactly did the US and UK come to be differentiated when it comes to the
> > > spelling/pronounciation of mom/mum? I know that the US started spelling
> > > certain words different after the revolution, like honor and realize and
> > > color etc. Just wondering...
> > >

lilblakdog

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
jane lawrence <jan...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3856EC34...@excite.com...

> My mother, whom I addressed as "Mother" as a child, spoke to us
> the same way she spoke to anyone else. The word "mommy" never
> came out of her mouth, as far as I remember. In fact, I'm not
> sure I've ever said it aloud. I do remember calling her "Ma"
> once. She asked me if I were impersonating a Bowery Boy.

My mom was always "mum". We spelled it with an "o", but said it with a "u".
She always signs birthday cards, "From Mummm". Her email address is
mu...@dog.com.

There was a period of time we called her "money". Another period of time we
called her "screech".

More often then not these days, though, I call her "ma". Like a couple of
nights ago she was getting on my little brother's case and wouldn't let up.
I said, "Ma! Please! Give it a rest already!" I don't know where it comes
from...maybe Jake. Jake was my favorite book when I was a kid and I
recently acquired a copy of it. He always called his mother "ma". I'm the
only one who does it...my brothers all call her mum.

> She never used any of those other "kiddie" words, either. We
> never used words like: pee, poop, bum, jammies, or sketties.

My mother always despised baby talk. I have to agree--when a baby says
"ba-ba", it thinks it's saying "bottle", like you are. If *you* start
calling it a ba-ba, you're never going to teach it *anything*!

The younger of the two boys I babysat called me "Wuzzie" because he couldn't
pronounce "L"s properly. We all knew it, but I was still referred to him as
Leslie. Eventually he was able to say it properly (and I still get a little
teary-eyed for those days when he couldn't!).

> Anyway, I've been thinking about this. What do adults call
> their mothers? BD usually calls me "Mom" now. SD, OTOH, still
> uses "Mummy." Do people switch at some point? What point is
> it?

As I said, we sort of went in stages. I honestly don't remember if she was
ever "mummy" unless we wanted something. And then we changed that to
"money". During our teen years, she became "screech"...even the neighbour
kids called her that. Nowadays, she's often "mum" but also "ma", to me.

I don't know when the switches took place, actually.

lil (who can't help but feel she just wrote a whole lot and didn't say much
of anything!)

John Hamlin

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
She has lost a pet but she was only three at the time, so she has no real memory of
it. I am just glad that I allowed her to stay home, we both needed the time. I can
tell you right now though, she is not happy with the cat.....I have been trying to
explain to her that the cat was not acting maliciously, only following instinct. I
think she is feeling a lot of guilt, she was the last one to open the cage and is
blaming herself for not closing it tightly. I am glad my SO was here to pick up the
body and place it in some wrapping, I couldn't have done that. It is funny, I never
liked my younger brothers gerbils, but this hamster was so mild mannered and sociable
that I am really going to miss him. Thanks for the hug

Anne Robotti wrote:

> Oh dear, that's so hard. :( Has she ever lost a pet before?
>
> Shannon was six when we gave her a guinea pig for Christmas and it
> died on New Year's Eve. It was so sad, and we had a little funeral
> in the backyard.
>
> Hugs.
>
> Anne
>
> John Hamlin wrote:
> >
> > My daughter's hamster died this morning.....actually the cage wasn't shut tight
> > and the little guy got out and the cat got him....... I found his body this AM
> > and my daughter and I cried together. I was as attatched to the little rodent as
> > she was. We made a little coffin and we will cremate him tommorrow (to cold bury
> > him). I let my daughter stay home from school because she was so heartbroken
> > (she is 11)


> >
> > lilblakdog wrote:
> >
> > > Vicki Robinson <vic...@panix.com> wrote in message
> > > news:8360r8$qhg$1...@panix7.panix.com...
> > >
> > > > When Stevie's hamster died last
> > > > year, as tall and mature as she is, she cried "MOMMY!" when she found
> > > > his little body.
> > >
> > > <smile>
> > >
> > > This is one I'm not looking forward to. First of all, I love the little
> > > buggers and *I'm* probably going to be screaming, "MOMMY!"
> > >

> > > But also--even though he's not around them very much--I'm sure it's going to
> > > upset my stepson. Sometimes I think it would be best to just go to the
> > > petstore and replace her with one who looks exactly the same!
> > >

> > > But she's such a sweet-tempered little thing that I doubt I could find one
> > > good enough to fool him.
> > >
> > > lil (who's just about to hit the one year mark for the babies and has *no*
> > > idea how old their mother is)

John Hamlin

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to

Anne Robotti

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
Oh dear, that's so hard. :( Has she ever lost a pet before?

Shannon was six when we gave her a guinea pig for Christmas and it
died on New Year's Eve. It was so sad, and we had a little funeral
in the backyard.

Hugs.

Anne

jane lawrence

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
John Hamlin wrote:
>
> I can
> tell you right now though, she is not happy with the cat.....I have been trying to
> explain to her that the cat was not acting maliciously, only following instinct.

You want to post that explanation? I woke up at 4:30 this
morning (after going to bed at 2:00). BD was shouting, "Get
away! Run! Run!" The first thing my eyes saw was a small gray
body hurtling across my bedroom doorway. Then BD lurched by
wrestling with our cat. There was blood all over the wall.
Fortunately, the worker at the Wildlife Project said that the
rabbit looked good later this morning.

Our cat is a killing machine. Since I got it to keep pests away
from the house, I don't feel I can strongly object to it doing
its job. I really like it that the birds, squirrels, snakes, and
gophers stay away from the yard now. But BD gets really angry
with the cat when she finds evidence of its slaughter. And she
doesn't understand why she can't get hamsters for xmas. I'm
going to show her your post.

jane

lilblakdog

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
jane lawrence <jan...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:38582374...@excite.com...

> And she
> doesn't understand why she can't get hamsters for xmas.

<grin>

I work in a mall. And there's a pet store that I pass every morning on my
way to the office.

Before the store opens, they let their cats run loose for an hour or so.
There's *always* one on top of the hamster tank, trying to get in!

lil

Sharyn & Karl

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
Hmm. I was gonna stay out of this. But... When I was a child, until about
14, my Mom was Mom. Around 14 or so she became Kate. That was my pet name
for her. It was her middle name shortened. When I had my twins I named my
daughter Katherine Marie but put Katie in parentheses because I wanted that
to be part of her name. It was written like this on her birth/death
certificates. Katherine (Katie) Marie Detty. Karl and I both refer to her as
Katie. Confuses the hell out of Trav and Tosh because unknown to me, they
didn't know about them until this Christmas when my sister bought me a set
of praying twins and out them on my entertainment center. Talk about trying
to figure out how to explain that, she got asked first, then they came to
me. I explained it to them, then asked Karl if maybe I shouldn't of.
Sharyn

nicky <n.h....@open.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:835beh$6a8$1...@nclient11-gui.server.virgin.net...
> When we adopted, we converted what were essentially total strangers aged 3
> and 6 to calling us Mum and Dad in around 6 months. It happens naturally
> enough, as the child perceives you fulfilling that role. Also, I hear
quite
> a few young kids (from birth/bio-family-only scenarios) sometimes call
their
> parents by their first names - just because they want to try out what it
> sounds like, or what reaction it'll get, I think. As other posters have
> said, we usualy say casually 'that's Mum/Dad to you' and it passes without
> becoming an issue.
>
> Nicky
>
> Chatte...@webtv.net wrote in message
> <12751-38...@storefull-276.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
> I have a ?, and some of you may find it petty, but it is a big issue
> that worries me. My hubby and I have had custody of his dtr since April
> 1998 (who is now 8) and had a daughter of our own on 6-24-99, here is
> the problem, I am so afraid that my own daughter is gonna call me by my
> first name and not mom, since SD only calls me mom about 5% of the time.
> Has anyone had experience with this? I am open to all advice I can get.
>
> Thanks---Kelly
>
>
>

Anne Robotti

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
Sharyn, did your twins die? How horribly, awfully sad. I just wish I
could give you the biggest hug right now.

Anne

Sharyn & Karl

unread,
Dec 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/16/99
to
Yes, Anne they were born premature. Katie lived an hour and 5 minutes and
Karl lived 2 hours and 15 minutes. I lost them a month apart. We thought for
a while that he would survive, but then when he was born premature also, we
knew that he wouldn't. I lost them in 1996. Those were my miracle babies,
even though I didn't get to carry them full term.
And thanks for the hug. I used to not be able to handle it, now as I told
Shay, I can talk about them without the hurt. And I think that is why my
sister bought the praying twins for me. The only time it really bothers me
is when Karl & I go to see his neice. She had twins in July. And I think
about them alot when we go to see hers.
Sharyn

Anne Robotti <rob...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3858526F...@worldnet.att.net...

jane lawrence

unread,
Dec 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/16/99
to
Sharyn & Karl wrote:
>
> Yes, Anne they were born premature. Katie lived an hour and 5 minutes and
> Karl lived 2 hours and 15 minutes. I lost them a month apart. We thought for
> a while that he would survive, but then when he was born premature also, we
> knew that he wouldn't. I lost them in 1996. Those were my miracle babies,
> even though I didn't get to carry them full term.
> And thanks for the hug. I used to not be able to handle it, now as I told
> Shay, I can talk about them without the hurt. And I think that is why my
> sister bought the praying twins for me. The only time it really bothers me
> is when Karl & I go to see his neice. She had twins in July. And I think
> about them alot when we go to see hers.

I'm awfully sorry, Sharyn.

jane

Tracey

unread,
Dec 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/16/99
to
In article <MPG.12c0f0f4f...@news.cwcom.net>, see...@cwcom.net
(Kevin) writes:

>> portrait. Looking closely, I saw that she had written in tiny letters
>>
>> (not actual color)

<grin> The things that kids feel need explained.

Tracey

Sharyn & Karl

unread,
Dec 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/16/99
to
Ladies and Gents too:
I never meant to get an "I'm sorry fest" going here. Please don't feel
obligated to do that. I was trying to explain something I posted. Maybe I
got to personal. I don't know. But please don't feel sorry for me. I worked
to hard to get to where I am, in terms of losing them, to handle all that
again. Don't get me wrong, my twins are still a big part of who I am, and
maybe my determination on making things better for Trav and Tosh. Please
don't feel sorry for me.
And btw, thank you Jane.
Sharyn


jane lawrence <jan...@excite.com> wrote in message

news:3859010B...@excite.com...

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}

unread,
Dec 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/16/99
to
On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:22:37 -0500, "Sharyn & Karl"
<Kittens...@email.msn.com> wrote:

>Yes, Anne they were born premature. Katie lived an hour and 5 minutes and
>Karl lived 2 hours and 15 minutes. I lost them a month apart. We thought for
>a while that he would survive, but then when he was born premature also, we
>knew that he wouldn't. I lost them in 1996. Those were my miracle babies,
>even though I didn't get to carry them full term.
>And thanks for the hug. I used to not be able to handle it, now as I told
>Shay, I can talk about them without the hurt. And I think that is why my
>sister bought the praying twins for me. The only time it really bothers me
>is when Karl & I go to see his neice. She had twins in July. And I think
>about them alot when we go to see hers.

Sharyn,

Consider yourself hugged twice. What a horrible experience. I am so
sorry!

Hugs from Wisconsin,
Nicole


I have gone looking for myself. If I return before I come back, please let me know I'm looking for myself.

My homepage: http://www.fastbytes.com/users/cinirb/

0 new messages