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jane lawrence

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Dec 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/18/99
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I saw this movie tonight. I almost loved it. It's about a
mother and her daughter. What I liked best was that I was
simultaneously horrified by and attracted to the mother. She
was a wonderful mother, but she did stuff that made me cringe.
I like that.

I'm posting because I thought her boyfriend, a step-parent
character, was a jerk. He was one of those guys that sulks. I
hate that.

Anyway, I came home and read this in a review:
Jack seems like your stereotypical good old boy, but he is in
fact far more sensitive than Mary Jo, and he is a caring and
responsible man who wants to be a good mate and father.
But Mary Jo is so oblivious and Ava so innocent and their
mother-and-daughter bond so strong that they tend thoughtlessly
to leave Jack out. Mary Jo, who is arguably less mature at the
core than her daughter, isn't smart or focused enough to make
any substantial effort to see the need to encourage Ava to
respect the overly conventional Jack or his earnest attempts to
do the right thing....
[The filmmakers] don't expect her to see that it is she--and not
Jack--who has messed up or that she's not always going to find
it possible to land a man or a job with ease.

I'm fascinated by this. It's as though we were watching two
different movies. That reminds me a lot of the discussions we
have here.

jane

Kevin

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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Well that's got me interested. I don't often catch movies, but I'm
curious enough after reading your post that I'm going to watch out for
this one. Any bets on what my perception/interpretation will be?

Kevin

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In article <385C8432...@excite.com>, jane lawrence says...

Someone

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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Is it in theatres or on video?

jane lawrence <jan...@excite.com> wrote in article
<385C8432...@excite.com>...
: I saw this movie tonight. I almost loved it. It's about a

:

jane lawrence

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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Kevin wrote:
>
> Well that's got me interested. I don't often catch movies, but I'm
> curious enough after reading your post that I'm going to watch out for
> this one. Any bets on what my perception/interpretation will be?
>

It's in theaters now, but I think it's a limited release. I
wish you could all go see it and talk to me about it.

I'd love to hear what you have to say, kevin. You've probably
seen Janet McTeer before, as she's a British actress. I wonder
how you will feel seeing her with a southern accent. I have no
doubt you'd be like me and admire her immensely and cringe at
things she does.

Incidentally, it made me LOL a lot.

jane

lilblakdog

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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jane lawrence wrote in message <385D1036...@excite.com>...

>It's in theaters now, but I think it's a limited release. I
>wish you could all go see it and talk to me about it.

I was hoping to see it, but I don't think I'd take DH to it.

My best friend's going to call in sick on day between Christmas and New
Years, so that we can have a nice lunch and catch a movie. Maybe I'll see
if she's interested in this one.

I love Susan Sarandon and I haven't seen Natalie Portman in anything since
Beautiful Girls...

lil
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Vicki Robinson

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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In a previous article, "lilblakdog" <lbdcre...@dog.com> said:

:jane lawrence wrote in message <385D1036...@excite.com>...


:
:>It's in theaters now, but I think it's a limited release. I
:>wish you could all go see it and talk to me about it.
:

:I love Susan Sarandon and I haven't seen Natalie Portman in anything since
:Beautiful Girls...
:

Hold on. Aren't these two different movies? The Sarandon-Portman one
is called "Anywhere But Here" and Jane's talking about a movie called
"Tumbleweed(s)" that I haven't even heard of.

Now I want to see both of them.

I want to take Stevie to see ABH; the trailer where someone is telling
them that they look like sisters is *just* like our life. Someone is
always telling us that we are dead ringers for each other, and I'm
flattered. Stevie is always faintly distressed. Heh heh heh!

Vicki
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lilblakdog

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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Vicki Robinson wrote in message <83j8ni$hf1$1...@allhats.xcski.com>...

>Hold on. Aren't these two different movies? The Sarandon-Portman one
>is called "Anywhere But Here" and Jane's talking about a movie called
>"Tumbleweed(s)" that I haven't even heard of.

Really? Okay...maybe I am screwed up.

jane lawrence

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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lilblakdog wrote:
>
> jane lawrence wrote in message <385D1036...@excite.com>...
>
> >It's in theaters now, but I think it's a limited release. I
> >wish you could all go see it and talk to me about it.
>
> I was hoping to see it, but I don't think I'd take DH to it.
>
> My best friend's going to call in sick on day between Christmas and New
> Years, so that we can have a nice lunch and catch a movie. Maybe I'll see
> if she's interested in this one.
>
> I love Susan Sarandon and I haven't seen Natalie Portman in anything since
> Beautiful Girls...

That's Anywhere But Here, which I haven't seen, but I think of
as somewhere between Mermaids and Thelma and Louise.
Tumbleweeds just opened. People I know who've seen both liked
Tumbleweeds better. I adore Susan Sarandon, but that Janet
McTeer is a tremendous actress.

The 12 year old daughter sort of reminds me of Lee. And yes,
the mother sort of reminds me of me. You'll see. She'll remind
you and Vicki of yourselves too, despite yourselves. It's
funny. She does stuff that makes your toes curl, then she does
other things that make you think, "I'd do that."

Totally beside the point, I mentioned to DH yesterday that his
sister would like a manger for her crčche. I guess they had one
growing up that their grandfather made. Mr. Hmmm That's An
Interesting Idea Let Me Think About It For a Couple of Decades
shot off like a rocket. Ten minutes later, he had to power
tools out and was humming away, sawing and hammering. Next, he
asked me about the nearest craft store!!!! I swear it's like
Martha Stewart meets This Old House around here. We've got
dowels, raffia, tiny hay bales, paints, and pieces of wood all
over the patio. This morning, he was out there debating faux
finishes for the ground around the manger.

I mention this for a reason. Next year, if I start griping
about DH not shopping, just remind me of this.

jane

Vicki Robinson

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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In a previous article, jane lawrence <jan...@excite.com> said:

:
:It's in theaters now, but I think it's a limited release. I


:wish you could all go see it and talk to me about it.

:

If you live in the US, www.imdb.com has links to showtimes based on
your zip code. (Go to the Tumbleweeds page and click on the link
underneath the poster.) I don't know how comprehensive their search
is, but hey, you could try it, huh?

Vicki Robinson

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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In a previous article, vjr...@xcski.com (Vicki Robinson) said:

:
:If you live in the US, www.imdb.com has links to showtimes based on


:your zip code. (Go to the Tumbleweeds page and click on the link
:underneath the poster.) I don't know how comprehensive their search
:is, but hey, you could try it, huh?

Never mind. I checked it out, and it apparently is listing very few
"cinemas" in the US. *VERY* few.

Feh.

Kevin

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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Well, I will keep an eye out for it. I'm lucky to have a cinema two
minutes walk away that shows a huge variety of movies all the time -
major releases, as well as the less well known ones, so it's sure to turn
up there soon. I must go get a brochure and see what's on.... and BTW I
too can put on a pretty good southern accent (if you give me time to work
into it):

"Hi Maw, 'n' Paw, Ah've stowlen the jayup and ah'm gayrn t' Nayshvaylle
t' rite countr'wayst'rn sawngs"

I hope y'all apprayshiate what I went through to tyupe that . . it took
ages.

Kevin

PS

> Incidentally, it made me LOL a lot.

That's another good reason to go.

In article <385D1036...@excite.com>, jane lawrence says...


> Kevin wrote:
> >
> > Well that's got me interested. I don't often catch movies, but I'm
> > curious enough after reading your post that I'm going to watch out for
> > this one. Any bets on what my perception/interpretation will be?
> >
>

> It's in theaters now, but I think it's a limited release. I
> wish you could all go see it and talk to me about it.
>

> I'd love to hear what you have to say, kevin. You've probably
> seen Janet McTeer before, as she's a British actress. I wonder
> how you will feel seeing her with a southern accent. I have no
> doubt you'd be like me and admire her immensely and cringe at
> things she does.
>
> Incidentally, it made me LOL a lot.
>
> jane
>

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Kim Scheinberg

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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jane lawrence <jan...@excite.com> writes

>Totally beside the point, I mentioned to DH yesterday that his
>sister would like a manger for her crčche. I guess they had one
>growing up that their grandfather made. Mr. Hmmm That's An
>Interesting Idea Let Me Think About It For a Couple of Decades
>shot off like a rocket. Ten minutes later, he had to power
>tools out and was humming away, sawing and hammering. Next, he
>asked me about the nearest craft store!!!! I swear it's like
>Martha Stewart meets This Old House around here. We've got

jane, I hate to disappoint you, but this doesn't count as initiative.
Men require only the teensiest bit of provokation when it comes to
doing things that involve power tools, especially if they can use this
as their justification for buying the radial saw they've been eyeing

-k. i'm describing my father, actually
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Kevin

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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In article <83jm58$ahu$1...@panix2.panix.com>, Kim Scheinberg says...

> jane lawrence <jan...@excite.com> writes
>
> >Totally beside the point, I mentioned to DH yesterday that his
> >sister would like a manger for her crčche. I guess they had one
> >growing up that their grandfather made. Mr. Hmmm That's An
> >Interesting Idea Let Me Think About It For a Couple of Decades
> >shot off like a rocket. Ten minutes later, he had to power
> >tools out and was humming away, sawing and hammering. Next, he
> >asked me about the nearest craft store!!!! I swear it's like
> >Martha Stewart meets This Old House around here. We've got
>
> jane, I hate to disappoint you, but this doesn't count as initiative.
> Men require only the teensiest bit of provokation when it comes to
> doing things that involve power tools, especially if they can use this
> as their justification for buying the radial saw they've been eyeing
>
> -k. i'm describing my father, actually
>
Oh OK. Well you weren't describing me, but I can imagine getting into it
inspite of myself for the joy of making something for my kid(s). But I
wouldn't use power tools. They FREAK me out. (I feel protective of my
fingers you see), so it looked like initiative to me.

Kevin

merrie

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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Do you have any idea of just how wide open to a practical joke you have
left yourself?

All we need now is a phone call and a good suggestion for the very best
white elephant item. 2 dozen shoe trees? A doghouse? Tippy coat rack?


Kim Scheinberg wrote in message <83jm58$ahu$1...@panix2.panix.com>...


>jane lawrence <jan...@excite.com> writes
>
>>Totally beside the point, I mentioned to DH yesterday that his
>>sister would like a manger for her crčche. I guess they had one
>>growing up that their grandfather made. Mr. Hmmm That's An
>>Interesting Idea Let Me Think About It For a Couple of Decades
>>shot off like a rocket. Ten minutes later, he had to power
>>tools out and was humming away, sawing and hammering. Next, he
>>asked me about the nearest craft store!!!! I swear it's like
>>Martha Stewart meets This Old House around here. We've got
>
>jane, I hate to disappoint you, but this doesn't count as initiative.
>Men require only the teensiest bit of provokation when it comes to
>doing things that involve power tools, especially if they can use this
>as their justification for buying the radial saw they've been eyeing
>
>-k. i'm describing my father, actually

jane lawrence

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Dec 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/20/99
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Kevin wrote:
>
>
> "Hi Maw, 'n' Paw, Ah've stowlen the jayup and ah'm gayrn t' Nayshvaylle
> t' rite countr'wayst'rn sawngs"
>
Ah, yes, just like Texas, kevin.

jane

jane lawrence

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Dec 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/20/99
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Someone wrote:
>
> Is it in theatres or on video?

Theaters, but not too many. If I'm not mistaken, McTeer was
just nominated for a Golden Globe for it, though. I think that
usually increases distribution.

jane

jane lawrence

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Dec 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/20/99
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Kim Scheinberg wrote:
>
> jane lawrence <jan...@excite.com> writes

>
>
> jane, I hate to disappoint you, but this doesn't count as initiative.
> Men require only the teensiest bit of provokation when it comes to
> doing things that involve power tools, especially if they can use this
> as their justification for buying the radial saw they've been eyeing

Well, yes. But I can work with that. Next year if I want the
lights up, for example, I can just ask him to make a wooden star
to cover with lights.

jane

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