Interesting Quote - TS vs. TG Madness
Willow
"So, to summarize, the unhappy behavior of that class of transsexuals
who are unsympathetic and even mean spirited to all other gender
deviant peoples is derived from two very basic, very simple animal
behaviors. One is the grasping need to find some sort of niche in
societies pecking order, preferably not entirely on the bottom, and
the other is to avoid a feeling of ultimate loss though the wholesale
voiding of the suffering that the transsexual endures.
Both are issues of self worth and emotional survival, neurotic
behaviors resulting from monumental levels of both social oppression
and internal misery caused by the condition itself. Not all
transsexuals act badly, or fall into such behaviors, but far too many
do. Not all transsexuals even feel so low that they would be brought
to such a level. I would have to say, though, that most transsexuals
are brought desperately low. It is a terrifying condition to have.
The behaviors you describe are the actions of a cornered animal, a
wounded beast. It is a mindless and desperate thing, and sad all
around for everyone."
Remind you of anyone???? Internal misery? Cornered animal? Mindless
beast? And simply sad...
Willow
Jennifer Usher
"Willow" <pang...@telus.net> wrote in message
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> http://www.transsexual.org/letters23.html
>
> "So, to summarize, the unhappy behavior of that class of transsexuals
> who are unsympathetic and even mean spirited to all other gender
> deviant peoples is derived from two very basic, very simple animal
> behaviors. One is the grasping need to find some sort of niche in
> societies pecking order, preferably not entirely on the bottom, and
> the other is to avoid a feeling of ultimate loss though the wholesale
> voiding of the suffering that the transsexual endures.
>
> Both are issues of self worth and emotional survival, neurotic
> behaviors resulting from monumental levels of both social oppression
> and internal misery caused by the condition itself. Not all
> transsexuals act badly, or fall into such behaviors, but far too many
> do. Not all transsexuals even feel so low that they would be brought
> to such a level. I would have to say, though, that most transsexuals
> are brought desperately low. It is a terrifying condition to have.
Same song, next verse. This bit of drivel has been around for years, and
shows that the TG crowd is in denial and ignores what is said. No one has
said that transsexuals are better, or higher up the pecking order, or at a
superior level in the hierarchy. What has been said, and ignored
repeatedly, is that transsexuals are not transgender and that we have
nothing in common with transgender. If that were simply accepted, publicly
acknowledged, and not continuously denied, this whole matter would end. It
is not about better, or not. It is about not sharing in the political and
social goals of the transgender political/social movement. And no, it is
not about feeling so "low." It is about us not being allowed to identify as
we wish, and not being allowed to simply get on with our lives without being
labeled and associated with that which we have nothing in common with.
Social oppresion? Internal misery? Nope, neither are an issue for the vast
majority of those with HBS, or who are otherwise known as true or classic
transsexuals. We transition and get on with our lives. The only oppression
we receive are from those who wish to deny us our success because their
transitions are such a disaster. That is, from the sort of person who is
known to have attacked Lynn Conway for highlighting those who have led
successful lives after transition. The sort of person who is known to be so
desperate for affirmation that he would would align himself with some who
utterly despise transsexuals, and who have sought to discredit them.
Someone who can become so obsessive about someone that they will continue to
harass them for years.
> The behaviors you describe are the actions of a cornered animal, a
> wounded beast. It is a mindless and desperate thing, and sad all
> around for everyone."
>
> Remind you of anyone???? Internal misery? Cornered animal? Mindless
> beast? And simply sad...
Yes, it is a perfect description of Willy Boy. But, he should also
add....absolute denial. Of course, it could also be applied to Diane Lask,
and Goat Boy. It is what drives them.
--
Jennifer Usher
Willow
We can each draw our own conclusions as to who that quote applies to
amongst those here.
W.
Willow
We can each draw our own conclusions as to who that quote applies to
amongst those here. How strange that a person with such bias against
TG types is supposedly hired to assist those very people. Rather like
a KKK member being hired by the NAACP...
As to "getting on with our lives", there is only one here stuck in a
TG/TS life, who's very job and circumstances show clearly that no
moving has occurred. The rest have all moved on .
W.
Ruby
It is an interesting article but only because the person who wrote it hasn't
a clue. Apparently neither do you.
Ruby
fluffybunnie
>
> Same song, next verse.
>
Well, at least you had the sense to preface your post with a
summary/warning this time. Congratulations on your moment of
self awareness!
> This bit of drivel has been around for years
Yes, you certainly have.
:)
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fluffybunnie
Lonely much?
fluffybunnie
Indeed. Lardo is stuckhereplayinghis wannabee games, falsely claiming
to be a post-op while living off the taxpayers' money via social
services targeting the honeless and the transgendered. He's a
professional tranny impersonator. An extremely bad one, but in SF it's
enough to qualify for quite a few freebies.
fluffybunnie
>
> stuckhereplayinghis
>
Oops, proof-reding fail.
Damned space bar...
Jennifer Usher
>I guess Usher gets up at 7:00AM.
Well, first off, it is a bit creepy that Willy Boy is that obsessed with my
sleeping habits. It is not, however, at all surprising that he is stupid
enough to seem a bit surprised. I work full time. This might be a shock to
a lazy welfare bum like him, but I have to be up quite early. I don't
always bother responding when he posts first thing, but I do usually check
my mail before leaving for work.
> We can each draw our own conclusions as to who that quote applies to
> amongst those here.
Actually, given the context of the original letter, I would say it actually
probably refers to Diane Lask. It appears to be from a few years back when
she was running the purity squad.
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Jennifer Usher
Jennifer Usher
>I guess Usher gets up at 7:00AM.
>
> We can each draw our own conclusions as to who that quote applies to
> amongst those here. How strange that a person with such bias against
> TG types is supposedly hired to assist those very people. Rather like
> a KKK member being hired by the NAACP...
I guess Willy Boy decided to expand on his earlier thoughts. He keeps
repeating this same tired lie. No, no bias. I just don't identify as TG.
That did not stop me from helping those who do.
> As to "getting on with our lives", there is only one here stuck in a
> TG/TS life, who's very job and circumstances show clearly that no
> moving has occurred. The rest have all moved on .
ROTFL! Willy Boy knows almost nothing about my life, or my job. I have no
connection with my previous position, other than the fact that it is part of
the same larger division of a major university. The previous project I
worked on is no longer even a part of the university. It left when the
principal investigator left. My job has nothing to do with transgender
other than the fact that one researcher is conducting one project that
targets them. I have no direct involvement with that project.
No, the simple truth is, I have moved on. Willy Boy, on the other hand, is
well known as the village transsexual where he lives. He has cowed people
into treating him as a woman with threats of legal action but no one
remotely sees him as anything other than a curiosity at best. Apparently
even Blanchard and Bailey have abandoned him.
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Jennifer Usher
Jennifer Usher
"Ruby" <ru...@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> It is an interesting article but only because the person who wrote it
> hasn't a clue. Apparently neither do you.
I quite agree.
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Jennifer Usher
JenniferFlusher
> Uh-oh, Lardo's breaking out the ol' sockpuppet again!
> Lonely much?
Poor Poor Fat Tommy LOL
He talks to his own sock puppetts because no one else will talk to him
He's restricted from posting at work (because even they know he's a
nut) yet he STILL risks his job by posting the occasional sockpuppet.
And after a hard day's trolling all he gets is to go home to the
Mission Hotel in San Francisco's druggie district and try to eun to his
room before one of the other State supported creepos tries to slap his
bitch ass down.
In his room all he does is wait for Willow to post something so he has
somone to talk to.
What a pitiful life - but he deserves it
Jennifer Usher
<FutureG...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Strangely enough, most people who exhibit this type of behavior online
> are actually charming enough in 3D. I am sure that many "elite TS" that
> have trashed me online would be happy to help me with my hair or nails
> or makeup in real life, and chatter away like a sister over a couple of
> cosmos in a bar or restaurant. And this meanspirited behavior online is
> common to practically all types of people, not just TS. The actual
> problem is that too often online one feels on the one hand safe and
> invulnerable and unaccountable for one's actions, and on the other hand
> the person they are flaming is an abstraction... an avatar, without a
> soul or feelings to be considered. Lack of consideration and respect are
> sad to say, universal. TS have no monopoly on that any more than a
> monopoly on immaturity.
There has been a lot of flaming from both sides here.
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Jennifer Usher