Skin-Cap Safety
David Bentley
I have been following the discussions on Skin-Cap for several months and the
recent discussions re safety, the reluctance of the manufacturers to provide safety
data, the "witchcraft" of altering the molecular structure of its constituents with an
electrical current, the failure of Ziinc pyrithione in H&S to cure P, the finding of a
potent steroid, triamcinolone, in the German batches of Skin-Cap....all of these plus
my own experiences make me believe that Skin-Cap is not all that it purports to be.
I have suffered with moderate P for the last 10 years and have tried everything that
my dermatologist has thrown at me. None of the treatments ever caused complete
resolution of the lesions and any partial resolution has been short-lived.
Being a veterinarian with a knowledge of pharmacology and an understanding of
the eitiology of P, I was VERY sceptical about the claims made for Skin-Cap on this
newsgroup. However, I evetually said "what the hell" and ordered two cans 3
months ago.
To my utter amazement my lesions completely cleared within 3 weeks and have not
come back although I am still treating my skin about once every other day as I am
sure that (just like all other treaments, and because of the actual cause of P) the
lesions will eventually return without treatment.
I do, however, have two possible side-effects to report.
1. The skin in and around the areas treated is much drier than normal.
2. I have experienced delayed wound healing of a deep punctate wound 3mm in
diameter on my elbow. I don't even know how the wound was caused (it may even
be somethinfg to do with the skin-cap treatment) but it resolutely refuses to heal.
This wound is almost the full thickness of the skin.
I am deeply suspicious, in view of these side effects, that this product contains a
potent corticosteroid or some cytotoxic agent.
My father is a retired professor of organic chemistry anf through him I have
managed to persuade a University Chemistry department have Skin-Cap analysed.
This is being done as a favour so will take low priority, but I await with intersest the
findings of this analysis.
If Skin-Cap is found to contain more than its stated products and If these turn out to
be dangerous i.e. corticosteroids,cytotoxic drugs,carcinogens etc, where does the
company stand legally?
I will post my findings when I have them, but this could take weeks or months.
John R. Kender
In article <52599t$ele$1...@mhafn.production.compuserve.com>,
David Bentley <10025...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
>If Skin-Cap is found to contain more than its stated products and If
>these turn out to be dangerous i.e. corticosteroids,cytotoxic
>drugs,carcinogens etc, where does the company stand legally?
Here is the relevant FDA rules that apply. My suggestion is that you
forward the results of your analysis to both the National Psoriasis
Foundation (www.psoriasis.org has contact info) and to the Food and
Drug Administration (www.fda.gov for phone numbers, particularly
the OTC division).
John
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sherry
Bentley joins Kender. Will it be Dr. Watson and S. Holmes all over
again? Good luck, guys. I am eager for the outcome of this mystery
novel.
Sherry1
In <52599t$ele$1...@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> David Bentley
>If Skin-Cap is found to contain more than its stated products and If
these turn out to
>be dangerous i.e. corticosteroids,cytotoxic drugs,carcinogens etc,
where does the
>company stand legally?
>
Unknown
I have been using Skin Cap for 3.5 months now. Previously I used Diprosone (a cortisone creme) With regular application twice a day all flaky patches disappeared within 2 weeks. Within another 3 weeks the lesions (mostly elbows, knees, ears) were only barely noticeable by looking closely. I have nver had such success with anything else in my 22 years of having psoriasis. Some of the smaller, less long term patches have gone completely, but the larger, longer term lesions have are now only a very light pink colour, unoticeable to anyone else except myself. I now use skin cap only once every 2 days to keep the patches as clear as they are. I have been following all the news about safety and side effects of this product. My experience is as yet no side effects. Hopefully someone else will soon start manufacturing an equivalent product for about half the price! I would hope others are experiencing as good a result as I am.
Unknown
I have had psoriasis one my knees, elbows, scalp, chest for over 20 years.
Usually I use Diprosone cream to control it, but over the past 4 yrs this
cortisone cream has not worked very well. I started using Skin Cap 3 months
ago. Within the first 2 weeks all flakiness was gone. Within another 3 weeks
the lesions were no longer inflamed and were are barely noticeable light
pink rather than red. That was from application twice a day. I now use it
once every 2 days to control the psoriasis. Some short term
patches have almost disappeared. Skin Cap is certainly the best product for
me at the moment. I do not have any side effects that I know of.
I am aware of all the postings concerning the nature of this product. Suffice
to say it works for me and that is all I care about. Now if someone will make
the stuff for half the price of the current extortionist prices I will even
be happier.
LolaCK
All of us in the group should be thrilled to have two such obviously
capable people batting on our behalf re: the mysteries of SkinCap. In the
throes of a major flare-up, despite using SkinCap religiously for several
month (or maybe BECAUSE of .. though because I know so little about it, I
can't swear that the SkinCap alone is responsible), I am interested to
hear the theory that some sort of cortosteroid may be part of its
chemistry. Certainly, in the past, I've experienced rebound effect from
such treatments and this particular flare has the same earmarks.
Unbelievably prolific guttate lesions with vicious itching and burning. I
stopped using the SkinCap in trying to deal with this particular outbreak
.. and have found that with a conscious effort to *calm down*, a steady
daily dose of UVs, cleaning my diet back up and baths in olive oil and
Dead Sea Salts, the flare has definitely abated in just about ten days. I
have no new red spots, which generally means I'm on the mend, though
historically it has taken months to clear my skin of the leftover white
patches. My derm has also prescribed Sporanox (as an experiment, just in
case I might have the kind of p that's sensitive to yeasts) .. and though
I've only been on it for four days, I'll keep you all posted re: my
progress. (NOTE: I did not start taking the Sporanox until after I had
experienced some relief from the actual flare) It's just that I have a
furiously busy couple of months ahead with much traveling by plane which
always aggravates my p and I figured now was as good a time as any to try
something new. Since I've also BEEN traveling hither and yon for the PAST
couple of months also .. if anyone has a consensus on the SkinCap longterm
users report I'd be glad if you could e-mail it to me.
Lola
ThomasL562
Can anybody tell me the active ingredients in Skin-cap.
My derm has never heard of it. (at least as skin-cap)
thanks.
Tom Long
Thoma...@aol.com
Andy Kanter
Tom,
The active ingredient in Skin-Cap Spray is Pyrithione Zinc 0.2%. You
can find more information about Skin-Cap products at our web site.
If you have any questions, please let me know.
Andy Kanter
Net Nova Pharmaceuticals, Corp.
Get clear skin fast! with Skin-Cap Spray and Shampoo.
For more information, or to place an order, please visit our web site.
http://www.clearskin.com. Thank you.
Andrew Gellert
Thanks for participating in the newsgroup. Like many others, I am
monitoring the discussion and anecdotal evidence. Many of us can't
understand how you can get the results you undoubtably do from the
equivalent of spraying on Head and Shoulders. More to the point, I feel
we are afraid of the extreme flairs some report during use or
afterward. If you have any info on that, especially how to avoid it,
and the incidence with which it occurs, you might sell a lot of us.
Regards,
Andrew Gellert
Ed Reiss
Andy Kanter wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> The active ingredient in Skin-Cap Spray is Pyrithione Zinc 0.2%. You
> can find more information about Skin-Cap products at our web site.
>
Andy,
I have a question.
Cheminova, itself (the manufacturer of Skin Cap) has indicated that there
is a "secret ingredient" in Skin Cap which supposedly makes it effective.
Assuming that they know what's in their own product, they are either lying,
or you are incorrect in your assertion. Could you help us determine the
truth of the matter? Also, do you know anything about the steroid that
was found in versions of Skin Cap (in Germany and Spain) without being
listed as an ingredient?
Any accurate information you could *post* to the newsgroup would be greatly
appreciated by all of us who read it.
Sincerely,
Ed Reiss
ere...@webwillow.com
webm...@psoriasis.org
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Andy Kanter
> Net Nova Pharmaceuticals, Corp.
>
> Get clear skin fast! with Skin-Cap Spray and Shampoo.
> For more information, or to place an order, please visit our web site.
> http://www.clearskin.com Thank you.
Ed Reiss
Andy Kanter wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> The active ingredient in Skin-Cap Spray is Pyrithione Zinc 0.2%. You
> can find more information about Skin-Cap products at our web site.
>
Andy,
I have a question.
Cheminova itself, (the manufacturer of Skin Cap), has indicated that there
is a "secret ingredient" in Skin Cap which supposedly makes it effective
for some people. Assuming that they know what's in their own product, they
Graham Seale
In message <325DA0...@webwillow.com> Ed Reiss wrote:
> Cheminova itself, (the manufacturer of Skin Cap), has indicated that there
> is a "secret ingredient" in Skin Cap which supposedly makes it effective
> for some people. Assuming that they know what's in their own product, they
> are either lying, or you are incorrect in your assertion. Could you help us
> determine the truth of the matter? Also, do you know anything about the steroid
> that was found in versions of Skin Cap (in Germany and Spain) without being
> listed as an ingredient?
Hmm.. "secret ingrdients?". I thought "secret ingredients" belongs in the world
of industrial chemistry, not medicine. I would expect a credible approach is
to take out the patents and then publish up front everything about it including
how it was discovered and what tests were done to verify the human usage.
Cheminova may well be trying to best manage the situation that the active
ingredient is an easily sourced generic compound that cannot be patented.
Even though I am desperate to treat my psoriasis, I could not risk putting
anybody's "secret ingredients" on, particularly if they be aggressive steroids.
My regards to all
--
Graham
Bob Mackie
gra...@southlin.demon.co.uk (Graham Seale) wrote:
Graham and others who wonder about how effective SkinCap really is:
I have been using it for about four months. Firs, I used the spray
about four time a day. It cut the scale down to nil, and stopped the
spread. I now use it once a day (just a squirt) and it seems to keep
the flare-ups from occurring.
The key to success of any product is I think, dependent on a lot of
subjective criteria. I have minor P. on both elbows. No big deal
compared to lots of you out there, obviously. I took the stuff to my
GP and he said something to the effect "...if it works, then that's
fine" I get the impression that from his experience, P is still quite
a quiz. I guess that immunilogical disorders are generally that way.
And they are subjective, no doubt about that.
I had flamed Andy for this that and the other thing when I didn't get
instant delivery. The wait was worth it, and for the sake of making a
public apology to Andy, this message constitutes that effort.
Bob in the Kootenays
>In message <325DA0...@webwillow.com> Ed Reiss wrote:
>> Cheminova itself, (the manufacturer of Skin Cap), has indicated that there
>> is a "secret ingredient" in Skin Cap which supposedly makes it effective
>> for some people.
>Graham
Lisa Hixson
The key to success of any product is I think, dependent on a lot of
>subjective criteria. I have minor P. on both elbows. No big deal
>compared to lots of you out there, obviously. I took the stuff to my
>GP and he said something to the effect "...if it works, then that's
>fine" I get the impression that from his experience, P is still quite
>a quiz
All SkinCap ponderings aside, I'd say get a new doctor. "If it works,
then it's fine"!!!!????!!!!!????!!!!!???? Alarms should be going off in
your head. Do I really need to go into the countless products (including
meds) that work great, but they just happen to have these annoying little
side effects? I guess then taking prednisone willy nilly for my PA is
fine because it works great. It can't be having any nasty side effects.
You are the one that will have to live with the possible side effects of
SkinCap (or any other drug), not your doctor. And what the heck does a
GP know about P anyway?
Sorry for the vent.
Lisa
"Sun is bad for you. Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun,
milk, red meat,...college." (Annie Hall)
John R. Kender
In article <540sr3$2c...@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>,
Lisa Hixson <QVS...@prodigy.com> wrote:
>All SkinCap ponderings aside, I'd say get a new doctor. "If it works,
>then it's fine"!!!!????!!!!!????!!!!!???? Alarms should be going off in
>your head.
>
>SkinCap (or any other drug), not your doctor. And what the heck does a
>GP know about P anyway?
This summer I heard that a Very Famous Derm in a Very Big City had told a
patient to try the stuff. Good, I though, he probably knows what's in it and
can tell me how safe it is. I called him up, and got his secretary. Is it
true that he told a patient to use it, I asked. Yes, she said. Does he know
what's in it? No, she said. Then why is he recommending it? Because another
patient said it was giving results, she said. Is he aware of any long term
dangers or side effects? You'll have to ask him, she said, but he's busy now
so if you leave your number he'll call you back. He never did.
In the meantime, the Official Silence of the company and its distributors is
deafening.
John
Graham Seale
In message <542n1l$2...@shadow.cs.columbia.edu> John R. Kender wrote:
> In the meantime, the Official Silence of the company and its distributors is
> deafening.
I have read all the recent postings about SkinCap, particularly
the excellent research by John and others. My (little) comment was
perhaps too measured. The credibility of the manufacturing company
is *vital*. Without bones or horns I have to say that there cannot
be any credible case for the current behaviour of that Spanish company.
If their product is safe (and prior art), then they are operating a
short term scam.
If their product is safe, and a unique innovation, then they can seek
letters patent, both in the EEC (Spain is a member!) and in other
countries, and reap the rewards.
As it is I suspect they monitor the postings to reap free information
on the side effects (rebound et al) and other reported woes, perhaps to
modify the product.
Lastly, I deprecate the attitude "If it works for me - thats OK".
It is only OK if done as an informed choice in the face of full
information. The trouble is.. *we are not informed!* We have to
get up to all sorts of detective work to become "informed".
The past is littered with examples of substances that were ingested/used
at the time, seemingly OK, and proved tragic. Start with DDT, and
2-4D herbicide, and make your way via thalidomide and LSD to
heroin. For me, the attitude of Cheminova speaks volumes. The sign
of good faith I need is to become aware of a Cheminova patent application.
Short of that, I have in mind to send copies of some of the postings
I have seen to consumer organisations with some clout. Within the EEC
(after the adulterated olive oil scandal!) the motivation to go after
health & safety miscreants is high. SkinCap had *better* be a bona fide
product.
There now - having to live with bits of me falling off all the time,
I feel better for having sounded off. If it was intemperate, I am sorry.
Bob Mackie
QVS...@prodigy.com (Lisa Hixson) wrote:
>The key to success of any product is I think, dependent on a lot of
>>subjective criteria. I have minor P. on both elbows. No big deal
>>compared to lots of you out there, obviously. I took the stuff to my
>>GP and he said something to the effect "...if it works, then that's
>>fine" I get the impression that from his experience, P is still quite
>>a quiz
>All SkinCap ponderings aside, I'd say get a new doctor. "If it works,
>then it's fine"!!!!????!!!!!????!!!!!???? Alarms should be going off in
>your head.
He did read the pamphlet and the other info I had downloaded from the
Web about SkinCap. He said he recognized the ingredients, as listed.
>You are the one that will have to live with the possible side effects of
>SkinCap (or any other drug), not your doctor. And what the heck does a
>GP know about P anyway?
I have had no side effects that I know of. I don't literally bathe in
the stuff, though. The two cans of spray that I bought in June will
probably last for another couple of months. The point is, I have read
about other cases on this ng, and many of their dermatologists seem to
be pushing almost quack remedies. Who is the final authority? What
works for you may not work for others. Use coal tar if you want, go
to the dead sea, if it works.
>Sorry for the vent.
>Lisa
No problem. My nephew has fairly large patches of P on him. He has
tried everything (thru his dermatologist) and it seems that only
Methyltrextrate works. But boby, does it make him sick!
Voodoo
Bob
Lisa Hixson
This summer I heard that a Very Famous Derm in a Very Big City had told
a
>patient to try the stuff. Good, I though, he probably knows what's in
it and
>can tell me how safe it is. I called him up, and got his secretary. Is
it
>true that he told a patient to use it, I asked. Yes, she said. Does he
know
>what's in it? No, she said. Then why is he recommending it? Because
another
>patient said it was giving results, she said. Is he aware of any long
term
>dangers or side effects? You'll have to ask him, she said, but he's
busy now
>so if you leave your number he'll call you back. He never did.
I've been thinking about the original post in this thread for a couple of
days now, and the more I think about it, the scarier it is to realize
that doctors
will do this sort of thing. Apparently they feel we as patients are so
expendable, they do not need to do their job. Or perhaps it's that
antiquated notion that P is just a comestic problem. This problem is
nothing new of course, but I usually try not to constantly dwell on the
thought that there are apparently so many incompetent doctors. I guess
somebody is graduating at the bottom of those medical school classes.
I used to go to a GP that I could sort of bully around. By that I mean I
could get him to prescribe just about anything. Until about a year ago, I
had only seen one derm 1 time ever (even though I've had P for 12 years).
I woud get my GP to prescribe Lidex for me whenever I needed it, no
questions asked. I wasn't at all informed back then on the dangers of
steroid use (and I have to wonder if he was!). And, to top it all off, I
only went to see him once or twice a year (for stuff like sinus
infections) and he'd always ask me what my P was!!!
I would never go to a GP for anything more complicated than a cold these
days.
Dennis English
I don't know anything about secret ingredients but have seen the results
and it works! Not cheap but well worth the price Great Lakes Pham
(800)655-6682 Dennis English WGX...@prodigy.com
Lisa Hixson
Three posts from you extolling the wonders of SkinCap. You sound like one
of those plants I've heard the others talk about.
Phyllis Haynen
Hi Lisa,
Are you having a bad skin day? I haven't posted for a few days about
my great relief with Skin-Cap....so I'll post again. Skin-Cap has worked
really well for me. I spot tested it when I received my first can. It
worked well on those spots and I went on to other spots. Maybe once a
week I squirt a spot here and there. Other than that, I am cleared up.
First time in ten years. I know we all have the same skin disease and
what works for one person, doesn't necessarily work for another person.
As I've mentioned in this newsgroup before, I am allergic to cortizone.
I get the battery-acid look on my skin. My brother, on the other hand,
can smear cortizone ointment (Diprolene is his favorite) all over his
face like a well moisturized lotion and go around with a shiny face and
so far no side effects. I'm probably going to get attacked again for
saying my positive results from Skin-Cap. I thought we were all here to
exchange information on what works for us and might help some one else.
I remember Skin-Cap didn't work for you, but I feel confident that
eventually through this newsgroup, we will find the right treatment and
relief for you.
Phyllis
Lisa Hixson
>All SkinCap ponderings aside, I'd say get a new doctor. "If it works,
>>then it's fine"!!!!????!!!!!????!!!!!???? Alarms should be going off in
>>your head.
>
>He did read the pamphlet and the other info I had downloaded from the
>Web about SkinCap. He said he recognized the ingredients, as listed.
>
Of course, whether that list is correct has the subject of much debate on
this ng.
>The point is, I have read
>about other cases on this ng, and many of their dermatologists seem to
>be pushing almost quack remedies. Who is the final authority? What
>works for you may not work for others. Use coal tar if you want, go
>to the dead sea, if it works.
I must have missed the stories of the derms that push quack remedies. :)
I have heard of a few that sound incompetent (recommending UV treatment
to someone with a history of skin cancer, and the like).
Personally, I don't think SkinCap would be under such intense criticism
(from some) if the manufacterers were upfront about things. If they were
more forthcoming with information, SC would just be considered another in
a series of drugs that patients and derms can choose from (of course, if
the side effects that I and others have experienced is widespread, then
hopefully it would cease to be a choice at all).
Dennis English
Lisa,
I am neither affiliated with any chemical company or will in anyway
profit from Skin Cap or any other product. My girlfriend tried it and
got relief for the first time in years. Browsing the web I came across
this discussion and thought I would offer my thoughts and the phone
number. If you can buy the stuff cheaper somewhere else please do so.
The only message I am sending is the positive experience of a close
friend and another person with whom we recently shared the spray. He is
almost completely cleared with one week. Buy it or don't, buy it from
whoever you wish but I suggest you do not bad mouth people who are only
trying to help others.
Selwyn Davidowitz
Lisa Hixson wrote:
> It seems strange to me that someone posts the miracles of SC *3* times in
> one day (all being almost exactly the same post). Other people in this ng
> have privately told me that they thought some of the original success
> stories were planted. I had never thought so, but seeing your posts
> certainly brought that into mind.
>
> Believe me, your posts will have no effect on my opinions of SC.
>
> Lisa
Why cant some people in this group simply understand that SC DOES work
for some of us. I think that there is something "ugly" in this mail that
I am responding to.
Skincap WORKS for me and I have not got leaves because I aint a plant
and funnily enough I have on one occasion posted this info on 3
occasions in one day. However I must add that they were all different
responses to different sceptics about the product.
From Selwyn Davidowitz.
ALL THE WAY FROM THE TABLE MOUNTAIN CITY
IN THE BEAUTIFUL NEW RSA.
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sherry
I am back after a brief trip to HI to help celebrate my mother's
birthday. We were gone just a week, but that period produced 172
messages on this newsgroup (inflated by the fellow who used the ng as a
redialing telephone, trying to get an answer about flax seed oil -- did
it ever appear?).
A few days before leaving I began a substitution program of fruit for
sweets. I'm an admitted chocoholic and I also adore hard coffee
candies. Also Ben & Jerry's frozen yogurts, especially Nonfat Coffee
Fudge and Low Fat Cherry Garcia. The pint size, often eaten at one
sitting. These are not paid commercials, and I hope no one is offended
by them. I report the exact temptations and indulgences, since the
generic "sweets" means many things to many people. Anyway, my sister
immediately exclaimed that my skin (face) looked so much better than it
had several months ago during her visit here in CA. All I can
attribute this improvement to is the substitution of pears, peaches,
grapes and apples for chocolate, hard candy and frozen yogurts.
Lest anyone think the Hawaiian sun had something to do with this
improvement, I did not sun in HI, since as I've posted before, I
overdid the sun for years, and due to my genetic makeup (my father had
skin cancer) I have had to shun the sun ever since my first basal cell
appeared many years ago. When out, I always wear a hat.
Diet as an aid to psoriasis has been scoffed at by most dermatologists
I've checked with. However.... during the week away I read Manifesto
for a New Medicine by James Gordon, M.D., who covers all bases in his
practice and advocates the same for other docs. An interesting read if
anyone is looking for a "western" look at some eastern and other
alternative therapies.
Last, huge thanks to Messrs. Kender, Reiss, Allen et al for their
continued detective work re SkinCap. I had hoped the mystery would
have been solved, but I guess the story still has a way to go.
Nice to be back,
Sherry1
Lady Andy2
In article <54sj42$3...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>,
she...@ix.netcom.com(sherry) writes:
>Lest anyone think the Hawaiian sun had something to do with this
>improvement, I did not sun in HI, since as I've posted before, I
>overdid the sun for years, and due to my genetic makeup (my father had
>skin cancer) I have had to shun the sun ever since my first basal cell
>appeared many years ago. When out, I always wear a hat.
>
>
Welcome back, Sherrie. Just thought I would point out that, although
staying in the shade and wearing a hat will lower sun exposure, being
closer to the equator in sunny Hawaii will still get to your skin, even if
you don't notice it as much.
Best regards,
Lady...@aol.com
Lisa Hixson
>trying to help others.
>
It seems strange to me that someone posts the miracles of SC *3* times in
one day (all being almost exactly the same post). Other people in this ng
have privately told me that they thought some of the original success
stories were planted. I had never thought so, but seeing your posts
certainly brought that into mind.
Believe me, your posts will have no effect on my opinions of SC.
Lisa
sherry
In <54tm7g$h...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> lady...@aol.com (Lady Andy2)
writes:
Right you are about the lower latitudes providing more sun, but not to
make too much of my hat-wearing and SPF lathering, which I do at home
as well, we just were not available to the rays except through tinted
glass. I was exposed to much less sun, I think, than I get during my
"normal" life in CA at a higher latitude, where we ride with the
windows usually rolled down and where we're out a lot more. It was my
mother's birthday we went over for, and she lives in a highrise and
parks underground, and besides, we didn't go out much. You can see by
all this explanation that I really want the fruit to get credit (add
papayas and kiwis to yesterday's list).
However... perhaps we ought to get into a moisture discussion. The
humidity there keeps a body "glowing," whereas here today, with ripping
dry wind, I'm crackling, especially as I pull static pieces of laundry
apart.
I was born and grew up in HI, and I've had my worst P there, so I'm
gonna insist at least for now on the fruits-instead-of-sweets theory.
Oh...and bananananas, Sherry1
Graham Seale
In message <327276...@aztec.co.za> Selwyn Davidowitz wrote:
> Skincap WORKS for me and I have not got leaves because I aint a plant
> and funnily enough I have on one occasion posted this info on 3
> occasions in one day. However I must add that they were all different
> responses to different sceptics about the product.
Don't be too hard on the sceptics Selwyn. I am such, and there is
nothing "ugly" about my motives. The technique of supplying "planted"
encouragement has been around since day #1 of human trading. It happens
every day in markets in every little place the world over. It is _not_
just a relic of the snake-oil remedy salesmen of the 1890's.
I find the notion that we are somhow exempt from this aspect of product
promotion strains credulity. I would be astonised if it was absent!
BTW - The view from Melkbostrand (your sig!) is enviable.
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> / \ / CAPE TOWN \ [ \___
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nice!
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Graham
anon-...@anon.twwells.com
In alt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis,on Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:01:41 +0100,
gra...@southlin.demon.co.uk (Graham Seale) wrote:
Also the technique of shills as doubters to stir up heated discussions. After
all any publicity positive or negative keeps the product name before the
potential customer.
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