"herpes treatment agent"
John
If I could show you a natural product that is a "herpes treatment
agent" with utility for "treating herpes lesions" and "treating
herpes viruses" "where the herpes virus is selected from a group
comprising;
=============================
Herpes simplex virus 1
Herpes simplex virus 2
Varicella-zoster virus (HHV-3)
Epstein-Barr Virus (HHV-4)
Cytomegalovirus (HHV-5)
roseolaviruses (HHV-6 & HHV-7)
HHV-8.
==============================
would you be interested in hearing more?
According to reports and feedback from physicians, healthcare
providers and customers, Shegoi products are successfully being
used for:
== Herpes conditions; including cold sores, genital herpes,
shingles, chronic fatigue syndrome, Kaposi's sarcoma,
cytomegalovirus
== Neuralgias; postherpetic neuralgia, trigeminal neuralgia,
Bell's Palsy
== Inflammatory conditions; including psoriasis, allergic rash &
hives, arthritis, sinusitis, gastrointestinal disorders
== Fungal disorders; nail fungus, skin fungus
== Microbial disorders; mycoplasma
== Yeast disorders; Candida
Shegoi has been issued four (4) United States Patents
(#6,039,955; #6,004,559; #5,945,106; #5,837,252) relating to the
processing and utility of Larrea for the treatment of viral
disorders and inflammatory conditions.
To find out more about the science consult:
http://www.larreamed.org
To find out about this outstanding opportunity visit:
http://www.discovershegoi.com
To hear a detailed explanation of the products and testimonials
by customers, physicians and health care professionals, listen to
one of the recorded conference calls below:
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I hope you find this information as compelling as I did.
Randall
> Hello,
Hi John,
Welcome!
>
>
> If I could show you a natural product that is a "herpes treatment
> agent" with utility for "treating herpes lesions" and "treating
> herpes viruses" "where the herpes virus is selected from a group
> comprising;
None of these are known psoriasis triggers. Are you saying that
clearing them in those psoriatics that harbor them will have an effect
on psoriasis?
>
> =============================
> Herpes simplex virus 1
> Herpes simplex virus 2
> Varicella-zoster virus (HHV-3)
> Epstein-Barr Virus (HHV-4)
> Cytomegalovirus (HHV-5)
> roseolaviruses (HHV-6 & HHV-7)
> HHV-8.
> ==============================
>
> would you be interested in hearing more?
Sure, if your willing to supply the abstracts from medline
to back up the contention that clearing any of these will
clear psoriasis to any degree.
That will save me a few minutes of my time. lol
>
> According to reports and feedback from physicians, healthcare
> providers and customers, Shegoi products are successfully being
> used for:
So, why didn't you put the psoriasis testimonials on first?
Thats the nature of the group!
I'm starting to get the feeling that either you have psoriasis
or someone you know does. Am i getting warm?
How many indians get it, btw?
>
> == Herpes conditions; including cold sores, genital herpes,
> shingles, chronic fatigue syndrome, Kaposi's sarcoma,
> cytomegalovirus
>
> == Neuralgias; postherpetic neuralgia, trigeminal neuralgia,
> Bell's Palsy
>
> == Inflammatory conditions; including psoriasis, allergic rash &
> hives, arthritis, sinusitis, gastrointestinal disorders
>
> == Fungal disorders; nail fungus, skin fungus
I hope cruiser see's this! I wonder if he tried it already, though.
>
> == Microbial disorders; mycoplasma
>
> == Yeast disorders; Candida
>
>
> Shegoi has been issued four (4) United States Patents
> (#6,039,955; #6,004,559; #5,945,106; #5,837,252) relating to the
> processing and utility of Larrea for the treatment of viral
> disorders and inflammatory conditions.
And do any of these patents mention psoriasis and the clear word?
That should really save me some time. Ed's pinch site does
have a search engine for patents that someone here may
use.... anyone?
I'll post a link that will link to this site down below.
>
> To find out more about the science consult:
> http://www.larreamed.org
>
> To find out about this outstanding opportunity visit:
> http://www.discovershegoi.com
Ok, we get the picture John,
Larrea tridentata been done before here.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Larrea+tridentata+group:alt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=alt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis&selm=df7e2c67.0310181504.60e2c7e2%40posting.google.com&rnum=1
We can get a better sampling doing the creosote search,
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=creosote&btnG=Google+Search&meta=group%3Dalt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis
(horse with NO mange is one of my favorites!)
You may pick up a few more stragglers with a chaparral search.
Looking at your links, i don't see the psoriasis connection,
http://www.larreamed.org/diseases.html
And while you've been an eager beaver on the web,
http://www.google.com/search?q=John+Caviani+shegoi&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=gw
Not one of those 1300 plus hits refers to psoriasis.
(BTW, where did you find all of those? Quite impressive, what
did you pay for that?)
I fear there won't be enough creosote bushes to supply all
those distributors you've canvassed on the web. <G>
Doing the same thing here is against the rules of this group.
see:
Click here: A Guide to the Psoriasis Support Group
http://www.pinch.com/skin/guide.html
(Read the no promotion section, please)
We would love to hear about ancedotes and testamonials from
those psoriatics that have had some experience with
your product.
Before i listen to your phone call, can you pony uP some
science on the above.
Thanks
randall
John Caviani
I am adding to my previous post to apologize for posting in the manner
in which I did. I was unaware of the rules of the forum and was over
zealous with my methods. I have been battling with Seborrheic Dermatitis
for years and I found a product that actually works. I simply want
to share the news. One again, please accept my apology.
John Caviani
Randall,
Thank for your insightful comments. Once again, I apologize for
barging into the group the way I did.
I am not an expert, so I really don't feel comfortable speaking in the
aggregate. I do know, however, know that this product does work for me
on my Seborrheic Dermatitis. As a matter of fact, it works so well
that the offending areas are almost totally clear. I have gone from
having open painful sores around my ears and navel and an itch that is
enough to drive you over the edge, to almost no sign of the condition
in less than 3 weeks.
Now, if you check the links I made available, you will see that the
potentially toxic compounds that have been a serious problem with this
plant in the past have now been removed with a patented process.
All I can say is I had nothing to lose by giving it a try and now I
don't feel like I have to walk around with a bag over my head due to
unsightly sores and swollen skin around my ears. I feel great!
Oh, and as far as the bush goes - don't worry, it is plentiful and
virtually indestructible. That is the quality that attracted
scientists in the first place. Here is an 11,000 year old plant living
in the desert and thriving. What's up with that?
I am always excited when a simple plant can outflank the medical
profession and their expensive poisons. This one, nicknamed the Mother
of All Plants by the Native American Indians, has the chance to do
just that.
John
Randall
> John<jo...@discovershegoi.com> wrote in message news:<bql984$896$5...@news.state.mn.us>...
> > Hello,
> I am adding to my previous post to apologize for posting in the manner
> in which I did. I was unaware of the rules of the forum and was over
> zealous with my methods. I have been battling with Seborrheic Dermatitis
> for years and I found a product that actually works. I simply want
> to share the news. One again, please accept my apology.
Hi John,
Thanks for taking the time to read over the group rules.
We do have someone in this group that may be very interested
in this as to the SD potentials. For p i'll have to see!
I'll grab up the patent for those wanting more,
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=6,039,955&OS=6,039,955&RS=6,039,955
[snip]
NDGA is known to be a potent inhibitor of the enzyme 5-lipoxygenase.
One of the enzymatic products of 5-lipoxygenase is
5-hydroperoxyeicosatetraenoic acid (HPETE) which is the precursor
compound for the biosynthesis of very potent chemical mediators of
inflammation, known as leukotrienes. As detailed in William R.
Henderson, The Role of Leukotrienes in Inflammation, ANN. INTER. MED.,
vol. 121, pp. 684-697 (1994), the disclosure of which is incorporated
herein by reference, 5-lipoxygenase is limited to a specific number of
myeloid cells including: neutrophils, eosinophils, monocytes,
macrophages, mast cells, basophils and B-lymphocytes. Leukotrienes are
chemicals which induce prolonged muscle contraction, especially in the
bronchioles of the lungs, and also increase vascular permeability and
attract neutrophils and eosinophils to the site of inflammation. The
leukotrienes play a major role in the inflammatory response to injury.
Leukotrienes have also been implicated in the pathogenesis of several
inflammatory diseases including: asthma, psoriasis, rheumatoid
arthritis and inflammatory bowel disease. The role of leukotrienes as
mediators of inflammatory diseases makes them attractive targets for
therapeutic drugs to treat these diseases. [snip]
I suppose we can look at the 5-lipoxygenase (5-LO) pathway for P one
more time,
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+5-lipoxygenase&btnG=Google+Search&meta=group%3Dalt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis
This pathway does have the major P players in it. Like AA (arachidonic
acid)
Seems like the cancer aspects are there. Making promises along this
line
isn't childs play. Offering false hope may be a contentious arena.
While P is a Th1 situation, cancer is more of a Th2 deal.
Is your non toxic creosote gonna block enough 5-LO to
make a big difference for psoriasis? Or cancer? As well as effectively
blocking
or clearing viri? Bacteria? And most certainly LPS?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14572603&dopt=Abstract
And if this 5-LO pathway was better understood we may be
cured already. No more stereo backwards fats in our plaques
i'm guessing, once the upstream causal factors are understood
and cured.
One of those in my P book is LPS. How does non toxic
creosote work on LPS? Back to 5-LO,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14561204&dopt=Abstract
[snip]
The expression of 5-LO in mammals is tightly regulated. Enzymatic
activity in vitro can be modulated by calcium, ATP,
phosphatidylcholine and lipid hydroperoxides; nevertheless activation
of cellular 5-LO in response to external stimuli is rather
incompletely understood. Intensive research revealed that on cell
stimulation, 5-LO redistributes to the nuclear membrane where it
colocalizes with 5-lipoxygenase-activating protein and cytosolic
phospholipase A(2). In addition, various cellular proteins interacting
with 5-LO have been identified. It was suggested that enzyme
phosphorylation could influence redistribution and cellular activity
of 5-LO and that the cellular redox tone regulates 5-LO product
formation. This review highlights the determinants of cellular 5-LO
activity and summarizes the molecular pharmacology of 5-LO.
So, while 5-LO is important for psoriasis,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12647809&dopt=Abstract
Leukotrienes (LTs) are intercellular signaling molecules that evoke a
variety of responses. They are best known as potent promoters of
inflammation. Normally, LTs are produced primarily by leukocytes. As a
result, current models regarding the production of LTs in the context
of disease focus on the leukocytes as the site of production.
Structural cells, including epithelial cells, are typically relegated
to supportive roles. It is recognized that epithelial cells normally
contain all the components necessary for LT synthesis except the
enzyme 5-lipoxygenase (5-LO). There is accumulating evidence that some
populations of epithelial cells normally express low levels of 5-LO
and can synthesize LTs autonomously. Moreover, certain factors,
including bacterial and viral infection, can promote the expression of
5-LO in airway, gastrointestinal and skin epithelial cells. The
appearance of active 5-LO enzyme in epithelial cells at these sites
may contribute to diseases like cancer, colitis and psoriasis. This
paper reviews the state of our knowledge regarding the expression of
5-LO in epithelial cells, the factors that modify that expression, and
the implications regarding pathogenesis
And this goes back to the AA situation for P,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11895157&dopt=Abstract
Increased concentrations of free arachidonic acid (AA) and its
proinflammatory metabolites have been observed in psoriatic lesions.
[snip]
(whats to stop the 5-LO? as this is what happens)
A more than 10-fold increase in neutrophil EPA-derived 5-LO product
formation was noted in the n-3 group[snip] (not to mention the n-6
dilemma flaring
like crazy)
Many, many herbs come thru this group all with the potential of
working in this pathway. (Well, at least a few!)
How well this compound, should it be consumed as opposed to topically
applied, work
in these pathways is still very much an unknown factor. Unless your
investigators did any trials other then speculate as
to effects and hope that those so afflicted would
self test and spread the hoped for good news, word of mouth.
Or in this case by electronic postings.
I do know that wheatgrass does something, but not what, other then
topical clearing during
a prolonged period of continual usage. While i don't worry about grass
toxins over a long period of usage,
i may be hard pressed as to using any other herbs/herbal oils
for extended periods of time without some trepidations.
Not that i don't already plan to take some Kalawalla and possibly non
toxic
creosote. :)
First i need more input as to this pathways players,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9413890&dopt=Abstract
The 5-lipoxygenase (5-LO) product of arachidonic acid, leukotriene
(LT-)B4, is considered to play a significant role in the pathogenesis
of psoriasis. In vitro LTB4 is a potent chemoattractant for
leukocytes, and it increases DNA synthesis in human cultured
keratinocytes.[snip] it is concluded that LTB4 is of significance in
the pathogenesis of psoriasis, and it is suggested that future work
should focus on developing potent LTA4 hydrolase inhibitors for
treatment of psoriasis.
Unfortunately, running outa time now for this inquiry.
Till later and thanks for respecting the rules of the group.
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