Pagano diet success
Jen
I wrote a few messages over a year ago to report my experience with
the Pagano diet for guttate p. I just wanted to post an update for
anyone considering the diet or similar.
I have had p for 25 years, and it has been getting progressively worse
for the past 7 years. 1.5 years ago I was at my wits end and finally
got the Pagano diet book. I stuck with it and 3 months later p went
from 40% coverage to almost zero. I stuck with the diet for another 9
months and had great results. When i went to Hawaii i decided i would
treat myself to whatever i wanted, so i went back to my old ways,
hamburgers and french fries, and LOTS of pina coladas. When I returned
i had a hard time going back on the diet, and besides i was clear so
why should i ? :) HA. My p came back pretty bad about 3 months later.
I immediately went back on the diet. That was in January. Its now May
and my p is well on its way to inexistence.
Thus, i have three times now tested the pagano diet (actually its
about 80% pagano diet) and I am pretty sure there is a correlation.
For me the results either way take at least 3 months to show. The diet
is hard if you are used to eating crap :) But, there are ways to
compromise. About once every 1-2 months i let myself eat whatever i
want for one meal. I also never gave up blue cheese dressing :) Diets
are tough, you have to give yourself small rewards or you wont stick
with it.
Good luck to everyone!
-Jen
Khen
Good to hear of your success with the Pagano diet. I have actually ask
the question before in the forum as to what does your diet consist of.
What are the things that u avoided - most importantly.
I have Guttate P too.
JM Fraser
have not been subscribed to this group for longer than 3 months so we
would have missed out on your introduction.
JM
JRStern
wrote:
>Jen, pls advise us what this diet consists of as I, like many here
>have not been subscribed to this group for longer than 3 months so we
>would have missed out on your introduction.
I can't answer for Jen, but a quick Google turns this up first:
http://pinch.com/skin/docs/pagano.txt
J.
JM Fraser
wrote:
Thanks. I will read up on this with interest. In the mean time, I have
been using Dovonex both cream and ointment. Early indications are that
my P is regressing as it once did before. Certain places where the
plaque was aggressively regaining lost ground appear to be once again
retreating.
Cream in the morning and ointment at night.
Jen
Ok, here goes....I wrote this up for my doctor so here it is for you
all to see...
**My NEW diet (variation of Pagano):**
Breakfast
Large bowl of whole grain cereal topped with fiber one (neither has
added sugar), no-fat milk. Drink: herbal tea, water, organic fruit
juice.
Lunch
Salad (no tomatoes); fruit; grilled chicken sandwich (no tomato);
snacks such as low fat popcorn, low fat granola bars. Drink: water
Snacks
Fruit; low fat cottage cheese; pretzels; very low fat chips or
popcorn; fat-free chocolate pudding; low fat granola bars. Drink:
water or organic fruit juice.
Dinner
Veggie or chicken stir fry with white or saffron rice; rotisserie
skinless chicken and low-fat cottage cheese; grilled chicken and
salad, large salad (sometimes with grilled fish or chicken in it);
sushi; lamb, salad, and mashed potatoes; grilled fish sandwich and
side salad; grilled fish and salad; pasta with low fat alfredo (less
frequently), and salad; Thai chicken dishes and noodles; Boston Market
turkey, with stuffing and creamed spinach on the side; Pick Up Stix
House Chicken with white rice. Drink: water.
Alcoholic beverages:
Drink about 3 nights a week. I almost always drink red wine (1-2
glasses). However, twice a month or so I will have light beer (Corona
or Hefeweizen).
Other important information:
I have increased my water intake to about 8 glasses a day. I also try
to have either Slippery Elm Bark or Saffron tea about 3 times a week
each (every other day). I have increased my fruit and veggie intake by
about 4 times. I have cut down quantity of food a little bit, I am not
eating as many carbs as before. I don't usually feel as full as I used
to, but in general I feel quite satisfied.
**My OLD diet (for anyone interested, this is what i used to eat)**
Breakfast
Usually nothing. Sometimes a banana or apple or bagel with cream
cheese. Drink: Artificially flavored juice, sometimes water.
Lunch
Chicken fingers (deep-fried), deep-fried chicken sandwich, deep fried
fish sandwich, or burger and fries; Kraft Mac and cheese; Taco bell
ultimate nachos and regular beef tacos; submarine sandwich (turkey)
and Doritos; pizza; chicken salad sandwich and chips; Chinese
orange-peel chicken and white rice (lunch portion; deep-fried). Drink:
Coke or artificially flavored tea to drink.
Snacks
Doritos, Chips and salsa and bean dip; bananas; chocolate (small
portion); popcorn (with butter); Chex-mix. Drink: Coke or artificially
flavored tea to drink.
Dinner
Alfredo, chicken parmesan, or other cheesy pasta dish and
garlic/butter bread; pepperoni pizza; ribs and fries; deep-fried wings
and fries; deep-fried chicken sandwich and fries; deep-fried fish and
fries; stir-fry with either chicken, steak or veggies and white rice;
steak and baked potato with cheese or tater tots; taco bell nachos and
tacos; turkey sandwich and chips; chicken salad (less frequently);
Thai food (chicken and beef and noodle dishes); sushi. Drink: Coke or
artificially flavored tea to drink.
Alcoholic beverages:
Beer of all sorts, and wine and ever other night. On weekends I would
typically drink about 3-4 a night and during the week only 1-2.
Other important information:
I often would go long periods of time forgetting to eat, and then go
out to eat and gorge myself with bar food or fast food. I didn't drink
much water, maybe 1-2 glasses per day.
-Jen
Randall
>
> **My NEW diet (variation of Pagano):**
>
>
> Breakfast
>
> Large bowl of whole grain cereal topped with fiber one (neither has
> added sugar), no-fat milk. Drink: herbal tea, water, organic fruit
> juice.
The least offensive grain for me is brown rice. Any flour/wheat
products are avoided. Also any veggie oils with them.
>
> Lunch
>
> Salad (no tomatoes); fruit; grilled chicken sandwich (no tomato);
> snacks such as low fat popcorn, low fat granola bars. Drink: water
Tomatoes don't flare me unless i've been cheating heavily.
>
> Snacks
>
> Fruit; low fat cottage cheese; pretzels; very low fat chips or
> popcorn; fat-free chocolate pudding; low fat granola bars. Drink:
> water or organic fruit juice.
Most granola bars have vegetable oils i've found and wheat grain.
So, unless i'm cheating, i avoid them.
>
> Dinner
>
> Veggie or chicken stir fry with white or saffron rice; rotisserie
> skinless chicken and low-fat cottage cheese; grilled chicken and
> salad, large salad (sometimes with grilled fish or chicken in it);
> sushi; lamb, salad, and mashed potatoes; grilled fish sandwich and
> side salad; grilled fish and salad; pasta with low fat alfredo (less
> frequently), and salad; Thai chicken dishes and noodles; Boston Market
> turkey, with stuffing and creamed spinach on the side; Pick Up Stix
> House Chicken with white rice. Drink: water.
I avoid potatoes as it is one *deadly niteshade* that affects me. Much
more then tomatoes. The pasta (wheat flour) is out for the glutten
effects. 16% of P's do have problems with it.
>
> Alcoholic beverages:
>
> Drink about 3 nights a week. I almost always drink red wine (1-2
> glasses). However, twice a month or so I will have light beer (Corona
> or Hefeweizen).
I can't drink anything of a alcoholic nature without consequences.
A major trade off best avoided for sure. After a while one doesn't
miss it as much as one thinks. So stop. The stress of p from
booze isn't worth the hang over or p over hang.
>
> Other important information:
>
> I have increased my water intake to about 8 glasses a day. I also try
> to have either Slippery Elm Bark or Saffron tea about 3 times a week
> each (every other day). I have increased my fruit and veggie intake by
> about 4 times. I have cut down quantity of food a little bit, I am not
> eating as many carbs as before. I don't usually feel as full as I used
> to, but in general I feel quite satisfied.
I try to drink three to four cups of green tea. And 30+ ozs of H2O.
And i notice its quite easy to be underhydrated during the winter.
I just forget to drink water for some unknown reason.
Or i drink to late and do the late nite routine.
>
>
>
>
> **My OLD diet (for anyone interested, this is what i used to eat)**
Yes, i see why your now doing so much better. You are, right?
The next level is taking out all veggie oils (soy, safflower, corn etc.)
And taking a tablespoon of flax, once a day.
And if your feeling real risque, taking some probiotic whey with
the morning routine.
BTW, what was your clearing % wise from the old diet to the new?
And toss in your total coverage before. Thanks Jen, your post
is very refreshing and needed. IMO, to many just don't think
that diet has any effects what so ever. But then again, i'm
a type one P (early onset) so i may be marginally different
from the norm.
randall... now i'm going to eat pizza, a major nono (but its a trade off)
and i will take some FSO
for AA blocking effects.
(AA= arachidonic acid)
Jen
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> > **My OLD diet (for anyone interested, this is what i used to eat)**
>
>
> Yes, i see why your now doing so much better. You are, right?
> The next level is taking out all veggie oils (soy, safflower, corn etc.)
> And taking a tablespoon of flax, once a day.
> And if your feeling real risque, taking some probiotic whey with
> the morning routine.
>
> BTW, what was your clearing % wise from the old diet to the new?
> And toss in your total coverage before. Thanks Jen, your post
> is very refreshing and needed. IMO, to many just don't think
> that diet has any effects what so ever. But then again, i'm
> a type one P (early onset) so i may be marginally different
> from the norm.
>
> randall... now i'm going to eat pizza, a major nono (but its a trade off)
> and i will take some FSO
> for AA blocking effects.
Hi Randall!
I was about 40% guttate covered, then after 3 months of the diet went
to about 1%. I was an early onset too, have had p most of my life. I
am interested in your background and history with the diet can you
give me a short synopsis? I just re-joined the group so must have
missed a few thousand posts :)
BTW, what is probiotic whey?
Thanks!
-Jen
Randall
> ranh...@aol.com (Randall) wrote in message news:<df7e2c67.02051...@posting.google.com>...
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> I was about 40% guttate covered, then after 3 months of the diet went
> to about 1%. I was an early onset too, have had p most of my life. I
> am interested in your background and history with the diet can you
> give me a short synopsis? I just re-joined the group so must have
> missed a few thousand posts :)
Nope only about 200 for this vein.
>
> BTW, what is probiotic whey?
Here i'll keyword it for you. Google search= randall whey (in the p ng
only)
Your welcome Jen.
>
> -Jen
randall...