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Billy Boy

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Aug 15, 2007, 9:58:44 AM8/15/07
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Probiotics Protect Nasal Passages from Harmful Bacteria
Probiotics such as Lactobacillus GG, Bifidobacterium, and
Lactobacillus acidophilus significantly reduce the amount of
pathogenic bacteria that inhabit the nasal passages,
according to a recent study.
In an open, prospective trial, researchers randomly assigned
209 volunteers to two groups. One group of 108 subjects
consumed a fermented milk drink fortified with probiotics
such as Lactobacillus GG (found in VRP's Culturelle™),
Bifidobacterium (found in VRP's BioPro™), and Lactobacillus
acidophilus. Another group of 101 subjects consumed
standard yogurt daily for 3 weeks. The researchers then
analyzed nasal bacteria on days 1, 21, and 28 without
knowing which subjects the samples originated from. The
study authors discovered that there was a significant 19%
reduction in the occurrence of nasal pathogenic bacteria in
subjects who consumed the probiotic drink, but not in the
group who consumed yogurt. The reduction occurred
primarily in gram-positive bacteria, which decreased
significantly.
According to the researchers, 'The results indicate that
regular intake of probiotics can reduce potentially pathogenic
bacteria in the upper respiratory tract. The results also
indicate a linkage of the lymphoid tissue between the gut
and the upper respiratory tract.'
2
Reference:
Gluck U, Gebbers JO. Ingested probiotics reduce nasal
colonization with pathogenic bacteria (Staphylococcus
aureus, Streptococcus pneumoniae, and beta-hemolytic
streptococci). Am J Clin Nutr. 2003 Feb;77(2):517-20. .

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august

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Aug 15, 2007, 5:09:52 PM8/15/07
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"Neil Brooks" <neil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Interesting.
>
> Ya' know ... if they keep heading in this direction, then the "freaks
> and kooks" who yelled ... for a few decades ... about intestinal flora
> imbalances, "leaky gut syndrome," and systemic yeast infections are
> going to look /awfully/ good ;-)
>
> Neil
> Taking probiotics, "inulin" [1], kefir, AND yogurt....
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inulin


Hi Neil,

I find that taking Nutraflora in addition to my probiotic (PB-8) really
helps. Nutraflora is FOS, aka fructooligosaccharide, which is food for
probiotics. I take 2 caps daily, one AM and one PM, and this quickly
increases the numbers of good flora growing in your gut by maximizing the
benefits of whatever probiotic you are taking or eating. Taking Nutraflora
was what cured my wife's IBS symptoms when the Drs could not. AW

http://tinyurl.com/2les2j


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Murray Grossan

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Aug 16, 2007, 2:20:49 PM8/16/07
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On 8/15/07 6:58 AM, in article 0j16c310ajkknm1cs...@4ax.com,

There is another study that the antibiotics alter the GI flora in the
infants which may direct them to allergy reactivity.

judy.n

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Aug 16, 2007, 6:20:41 PM8/16/07
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August. I found probiotic-4 on the site, but not PB-8, do you have a
reference to it?
I work with a GI doctor who is pushing probiotics for everyone after
some really tough c. diff cases. I always try and figure out what
brand they use. The Medical Letter just reviewed them, and recommended
Activa, and wouldn't recommend a supplement as they said that one
study found quality issues.
I noticed the original article references two products: culturelle
and probio.
Any reliable probiotic references would be helpful.

Re: the leaky gut reference--I test for celiac disease all the time
now, and so many people don't have all the classic antibodies, but
have the anti-gliadin which is essentially an antibody to gluten.
Reportedly celiac is one in 100, and the classic presentation: weight
loss, all the antibodies, positive small bowel biopsy is the rare
case, an atypical presentation is considered the new norm.

Yeah, we thought all the candida people were wrong...

Judy


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august

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Aug 17, 2007, 5:22:32 PM8/17/07
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"judy.n" <judy.n...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hi Judy, I've been taking PB8 for about 15 years, usually only one cap
daily (along with the Nutraflora) about 6AM assuming I am having no
digestive problems. If I am having any type digestive issues I go up to 2 or
3 caps daily. Back in the day when we used to travel quite a bit we would go
to Jamaica or Mexico and always bring a couple bottles. We'd take 2 caps
several times daily and never get sick from eating the local food. We'd eat
stuff that even the locals said might make you sick and never have a peep of
traveler's revenge. This was the real life experience that showed me that
this stuff really works plus it is not heat sensitive so it does not have to
be refrigerated. They make a large size bottle that has 120 caps and lists
for 25 bucks or so. This goes on sale twice a year for 15-17. for the large
bottle and this is when I stock up. I believe the quotes given on this link
are for the small bottle that has 60 caps.

http://www.nextag.com/Lily-of-the-Desert-59490062/prices-html

best, AW - who has been on Nystatin for candida for about twenty years
now


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judy.n

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Aug 17, 2007, 5:48:20 PM8/17/07
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Thanks for the info: the Vitamin Shoppe sells the big bottle for about
$12. It's sort of sad, there are so many supplements on our kitchen
counter, my daughter is embarrassed to have friends over: I take
astralagus, beta glucan, ginger and the migraine supplements of CoQ10.
magnesium, riboflavin, and fish oil--what's a couple more?
The beta glucan came from a patient of my husband who had
intractable sinusitis and was leary about the macrolides (we share the
same ENT), and his daughter was an ENT at ?Stanford, and recommended
it. It's expensive, but I can buy it through Emerson Ecologics at a
reduced price: reportedly it stimulates immune function. It worked for
the man who recommended it, and it seems to help.
Judy


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august

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Aug 17, 2007, 8:06:11 PM8/17/07
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"Susan" <neve...@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes

>
> august wrote:
>
>> best, AW - who has been on Nystatin for candida for about twenty
>> years now
>>
>>
>
> August, I hope that's the pills and not the sugary swish and swallow?
>
> I used to be on it all the time. I never get yeast any more, eating uber
> low carb.
>
> Susan

Hi Susan, I have RXs for both the .5MU pills and the pure powder which you
mix with water. I am familiar with the swish and swallow packets but have
never taken them except when in the hospital and thankfully that has been a
while. Kinda defeats the purpose of mixing Nystatin in a sugary base doesn't
it? It's been so long since I did the swish and swallow premixes that I do
not remember if they were sweet or not.

I used the pure powder mixed with water for years. It works the best but
recently I have gotten a little lazy and just take the pills - especially
since my candida is now not real bad as long as I keep my diet on track.
AW


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judy.n

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Aug 17, 2007, 10:08:06 PM8/17/07
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Makes sense: I got lazy, and they took over the counter. It's kind of
like putting your medicine cabinet on display: actually that's exactly
what it is.
Judy


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>
> judy.n wrote:
> > Thanks for the info: the Vitamin Shoppe sells the big bottle for about
> > $12. It's sort of sad, there are so many supplements on our kitchen
> > counter, my daughter is embarrassed to have friends over: I take
> > astralagus, beta glucan, ginger and the migraine supplements of CoQ10.
> > magnesium, riboflavin, and fish oil--what's a couple more?
>

> I take a lot more stuff than that! But I have it inside a kitchen
> cabinet and in a dresser drawer. No pill or vitamins on display allowed.
>
> Personal rule.
>
> Susan


ellen

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Aug 25, 2007, 10:06:25 AM8/25/07
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On Aug 15, 9:58 am, Billy Boy <billyboy[at]comcast[dot]net> wrote:
> ProbioticsProtect Nasal Passages from Harmful BacteriaProbioticssuch as Lactobacillus GG, Bifidobacterium, and

> Lactobacillus acidophilus significantly reduce the amount of
> pathogenic bacteria that inhabit the nasal passages,
> according to a recent study.
> In an open, prospective trial, researchers randomly assigned
> 209 volunteers to two groups. One group of 108 subjects
> consumed a fermented milk drink fortified withprobiotics
> such as Lactobacillus GG (found in VRP's Culturelle™),
> Bifidobacterium (found in VRP's BioPro™), and Lactobacillus
> acidophilus. Another group of 101 subjects consumed
> standard yogurt daily for 3 weeks. The researchers then
> analyzed nasal bacteria on days 1, 21, and 28 without
> knowing which subjects the samples originated from. The
> study authors discovered that there was a significant 19%
> reduction in the occurrence of nasal pathogenic bacteria in
> subjects who consumed the probiotic drink, but not in the
> group who consumed yogurt. The reduction occurred
> primarily in gram-positive bacteria, which decreased
> significantly.
> According to the researchers, 'The results indicate that
> regular intake ofprobioticscan reduce potentially pathogenic

> bacteria in the upper respiratory tract. The results also
> indicate a linkage of the lymphoid tissue between the gut
> and the upper respiratory tract.'
> 2
> Reference:
> Gluck U, Gebbers JO. Ingestedprobioticsreduce nasal

> colonization with pathogenic bacteria (Staphylococcus
> aureus, Streptococcus pneumoniae, and beta-hemolytic
> streptococci). Am J Clin Nutr. 2003 Feb;77(2):517-20. .
>
> Billy Boy
>
> To reply correct [at] and [dot]


hi all,

i guess everyone but me is on vacation, so i hope all is well. i know
that this is an old thread (but a good one). i just have a general
question. i take my probiotic in the morning after i eat. any
commentary of before/with/after meals, etc? & is it ok to take other
supplements with it. most specifically, i've just added a calcium/
vitD supplement. for what it's worth, i've been taking a vitC/
bromelain/quercetin supplement throughout the day & i think it is
helping to mitigate my inflammatory response.

thanks,
ellen

MS

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Aug 25, 2007, 10:03:53 PM8/25/07
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"august" <august_...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> best, AW - who has been on Nystatin for candida for about twenty
> years now

What are the symptoms of candida? Is there a blood test for the condition?


Billy Boy

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Aug 26, 2007, 10:52:57 AM8/26/07
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Hi Ellen,

I take my probiotics first thing every morning on an empty stomach. I have read reports to
take probiotics on empty stomach and other say take with food.

Who knows what is right for each individual. Just experiment.


I continue to take all other supplements and meds and see no problem. I also drink Kefir,
a cultured milk drink that is a cousin to Yogurt, several times every day.

I find that since starting probiotics my overall health has improved remarkably. Just
about completely stopped sinus infections although, I am currently fighting a mild sinus
infection after being around a person infected with bronchitis. This time no need for the
antibiotics and symptoms very mild compared to before I started probiotics.

I firmly believe probiotics are a miracle to lots of modern mans health problems.

Take care.

Bill

ellen

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Aug 27, 2007, 7:38:41 PM8/27/07
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thanks for that info, bill. i'll try incoporating the kefir as well.
for awhile, i stayed away from dairy but it doesn't seem to make my
situation worse. hope the sinus infection is clearing up.

ellen

Billy Boy

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Aug 28, 2007, 10:53:23 AM8/28/07
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Ellen,

One last comment. The crux of the matter about probiotics is that if your gut is damaged
by lifestyle and what we consume, then no matter what you eat or take as meds or
supplements will not be effective. If you can't digest and absorb the nutrients and meds
then taking them is no help. You have to heal your gut and probiotics does that.

So some googling and you will see what I'm saying.

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