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joshrobert

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May 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/22/00
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I was just flicking through a few of the postings in this newsgroup thinking
that it would be nice to get in contact with a few people in the same
situation as myself. Thing is - it seems to me that most people posting are
engaged in some sort of 'slanging match'. My question is a simple one
.......... WHY?

Karen Anderson O'Mara

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May 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/22/00
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joshrobert wrote:

Why ask why?

Karen


'Kate

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May 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/22/00
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"Karen Anderson O'Mara" <ka...@randomgraphics.com> wrote in message
news:3929B146...@randomgraphics.com...

Not to be argumentative but why not?

<g>
'Kate

jar

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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My point is that if people do not like other people in the
newgroup then surely they don't have to post messages to
them/read their postings. There are enough situations in life
where you are forced into ongoing arguments with people - why
join a newsgroup to do the same thing. I mean one girl was
saying that she had reported certain people in the newsgroup to
their employers! Doesn't that strike you as a trifle sad?

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deacon blues

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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jar wrote:
>
> join a newsgroup to do the same thing. I mean one girl was
> saying that she had reported certain people in the newsgroup to
> their employers! Doesn't that strike you as a trifle sad?
>

that's not just this newsgroup where that kind of thing goes on.
there are a lot of crazies out there...

--
__ ______ __ / __/ |
_/ (_(_) / (_(_/_/_(_/ .
be optimistic! you can win,
as long as you keep, your head to the sky
-the sounds of blackness

Karen Anderson O'Mara

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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jar wrote:

> My point is that if people do not like other people in the
> newgroup then surely they don't have to post messages to
> them/read their postings. There are enough situations in life
> where you are forced into ongoing arguments with people - why

> join a newsgroup to do the same thing. I mean one girl was
> saying that she had reported certain people in the newsgroup to
> their employers! Doesn't that strike you as a trifle sad?

Since you don't know the whole story (and neither do I), and I'd like to assume
there's always two sides to every story, why would you want to exacerbate the
issue here on the newsgroup, and give it more depth? I mean, practice what you
preach, doubleduh. It certainly doesn't need the bandwidth, imo.

Karen


os...@techie.com

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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susaneva wrote:

> jar wrote:
> >
> > My point is that if people do not like other people in the
> > newgroup then surely they don't have to post messages to
> > them/read their postings. There are enough situations in life
> > where you are forced into ongoing arguments with people - why
> > join a newsgroup to do the same thing. I mean one girl was
> > saying that she had reported certain people in the newsgroup to
> > their employers! Doesn't that strike you as a trifle sad?
>

> Sad? Sad? Is that the best word you can come up with? She's tried to
> have several people fired from their jobs. Sorry, but that comes up as
> a little more than "sad" to my way of thinking. She's downright
> dangerous.

Stop spreading the lies Susan. I'm not the one who is dangerous here.

susaneva

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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joshrobert wrote:
>
> I was just flicking through a few of the postings in this newsgroup thinking
> that it would be nice to get in contact with a few people in the same
> situation as myself. Thing is - it seems to me that most people posting are
> engaged in some sort of 'slanging match'. My question is a simple one
> .......... WHY?

why do you care, if you've decided not to be part of this group? And if
you want to be part of this group, why not post your
concern/dilemma/single parenting issue and we'll see what people come up
with. Don't decide you won't get any support here until that happens.
IF it happens.

susaneva

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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Karen Anderson O'Mara

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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susaneva wrote:

> Sad? Sad? Is that the best word you can come up with? She's tried to
> have several people fired from their jobs. Sorry, but that comes up as
> a little more than "sad" to my way of thinking. She's downright
> dangerous.

Nobody can get anybody else fired from their job if they did nothing to
get fired for....

Karen

deacon blues

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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susaneva wrote:
>
> joshrobert wrote:
> >
> > I was just flicking through a few of the postings in this newsgroup thinking
> > that it would be nice to get in contact with a few people in the same
> > situation as myself. Thing is - it seems to me that most people posting are
> > engaged in some sort of 'slanging match'. My question is a simple one
> > .......... WHY?
>
> why do you care, if you've decided not to be part of this group?
>

because it's not for you to say who does and does not belong here.
for that matter, it's not for any of the other people who seem to
think of this newsgroup as their own private domain. i don't know
how many times that has to be repeated. if you, or others want your
own personal sandbox, then set up a PRIVATE mailing list.

don't let the door hit you on the way out...

Pat Strong

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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jar wrote:

> My point is that if people do not like other people in the
> newgroup then surely they don't have to post messages to
> them/read their postings. There are enough situations in life
> where you are forced into ongoing arguments with people - why
> join a newsgroup to do the same thing. I mean one girl was
> saying that she had reported certain people in the newsgroup to
> their employers! Doesn't that strike you as a trifle sad?
>

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That is the point. Sorry Jar.. this hasn't been a problem for a while, but it
seems to have surfaced again... the trouble is the person who stirs the pot,
has just started up again....

Welcome and keep reading

Pat

deacon blues

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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Dennis Here wrote:
>
> Peter F. DeMos wrote in message <392B1C9E...@peterd.com>...

> >Karen Anderson O'Mara wrote:
> >
> >> Nobody can get anybody else fired from their job if they did nothing
> >> to get fired for....
> >
> >Spare me, Karen. You take this "I'm the middle roader" WAAAY too far...
>
> Look who's talking.
>
> >And it's nothing but cr*p. NO ONE wants, or should *have*, to explain
> >themselves to their boss, their spouse, ANYone, what one is doing on a
> >newsgroup.
>
> Peter, why not take your own advice and stop persistently explaining it to
> us.
>
> Where has it got you six months down the line?
> What do you hope to achieve?
>

from the various flames and off-topic postings that this peter guy
puts up, he comes across to me as being kind of disturbed. i mean,
anybody who says that he's gone out on dates with various women and
found them *all* to be selfish sounds to me like someone with a
problem.

in this fingerpointing exchange here, i don't know who to believe;
i suppose i don't really care enough to research the matter. however,
i've seen enough lies and misrepresentations of my postings on this
newsgroup to definitely be suspicious of anything that peterd posts.
at the very least postings such as these seem extremely petty. in
fact, the stuff about being interviewed by the fbi sounds pretty
far-fetched. i don't know what that was all about, but if he were
suspected of being some sort of pedophile (as, by the way, he has
accused *others* of being - see the thread "want a baby" to see what
i mean) i would have thought that they wouldn't have wanted to tip
their hand until they had a chance to collect some information (e.g.
from his isp or employer without his knowledge).

hey, i may not be a parent but from some of the people in this
newsgroup i'm learning a lot about child behavior. you know who
you are out there - now go get those census forms and increase
the number of children in the household by 1.

i can't say that i've had enough exchanges with lorian to have formed
an opinion about her.

Peter F. DeMos

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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Karen Anderson O'Mara wrote:

> Nobody can get anybody else fired from their job if they did nothing
> to get fired for....

Spare me, Karen. You take this "I'm the middle roader" WAAAY too far...

And it's nothing but cr*p. NO ONE wants, or should *have*, to explain
themselves to their boss, their spouse, ANYone, what one is doing on a
newsgroup.

I was doing nothing illegal, and yet I had to endure COUNTLESS emails to
my boss, my boss's isp, and ultimately calls to the FBI, where I had to
go be interviewed, and basically WARNED that this thing I'm playing with
is a snake, and very dangerous. Robbin had the same thing. And when Rob
stopped posting from her work account, and started posting privately?
That snake STILL contacted Rob's place of work, threatened them, and
said she felt threatened and it was Rob's fault, ergo IU was partly
responsible. D-E-S-P-I-C-A-B-L-E.

I have NEVER had the net taken into my living room in the manner that
this thing has. NO ONE should have to endure anything like that, just
because a person is so mentally disturbed that she'll try any way she
can to get someone fired, or arrested, just because she blames the
world, her "brief lay in the sack sperm donor", and her daddy for not
loving her enough.

The letters to my boss insisted on my being fired, or she'd bring "legal
action" against the isp and my company. When that fizzled, she brought
in the police and ultimately the FBI.

Now, she can DENY trying to get any of us fired, and you can SAY that
it's no.big.deal, but I think you're both....

Full.of.bull.

And obviously, 98% of the people around here agree. So go ahead and show
us how smart you are. Show us how "even" you are. I say: bull.

peterd
--The original peterd. Accept no Substitutes.--
http://www.peterd.com

Dennis Here

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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Peter F. DeMos wrote in message <392B1C9E...@peterd.com>...
>Karen Anderson O'Mara wrote:
>
>> Nobody can get anybody else fired from their job if they did nothing
>> to get fired for....
>
>Spare me, Karen. You take this "I'm the middle roader" WAAAY too far...

Look who's talking.

>And it's nothing but cr*p. NO ONE wants, or should *have*, to explain
>themselves to their boss, their spouse, ANYone, what one is doing on a
>newsgroup.

Peter, why not take your own advice and stop persistently explaining it to
us.

Where has it got you six months down the line?
What do you hope to achieve?

Any way I read it as Karen vindicating you by virtue of the fact that you
did NOT loose your job.

Get the blinkers off and lighten up a little.

Dennis

Julie

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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deacon blues wrote:

> susaneva wrote:
> >
> > joshrobert wrote:
> > >
> > > I was just flicking through a few of the postings in this newsgroup thinking
> > > that it would be nice to get in contact with a few people in the same
> > > situation as myself. Thing is - it seems to me that most people posting are
> > > engaged in some sort of 'slanging match'. My question is a simple one
> > > .......... WHY?
> >
> > why do you care, if you've decided not to be part of this group?
> >
>
> because it's not for you to say who does and does not belong here.
> for that matter, it's not for any of the other people who seem to
> think of this newsgroup as their own private domain. i don't know
> how many times that has to be repeated. if you, or others want your
> own personal sandbox, then set up a PRIVATE mailing list.
>
> don't let the door hit you on the way out...
>

> --
> __ ______ __ / __/ |
> _/ (_(_) / (_(_/_/_(_/ .
> be optimistic! you can win,
> as long as you keep, your head to the sky
> -the sounds of blackness

You close yet another reprimand about not being able to control who stays/goes with
instructions to set up a private mailing list and "don't let the door hit you on the
way out..."
Is it somehow for you to say who does or doesn't belong here?

susan didn't command anyone to leave, she simply asked, as others have before her,
why a person stays when they claim this group is not what they expected or wanted.
The difference is not so subtle it can't be seen.

Julie

Karen Anderson O'Mara

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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"Peter F. DeMos" wrote:

> And obviously, 98% of the people around here agree. So go ahead and show
> us how smart you are. Show us how "even" you are. I say: bull.

I post from work account and use my real name. It's real easy to identify
me, my employer, work address, etc.

On another newsgroup, about a year ago, a fellow subscriber got irked at
me, and contacted my employer. She masqueraded as a potential client and
schmoozed with my boss on the phone several times and finally turned the
conversation to his employees and their work skills and ethics.

Then, whammo, she went off about me harrassing and stalking her on Usenet.
Immediately, the fax machine went berserk with tons of hard copied postings
from me, in followup to her that she was fax'ing. My boss got emails that
insinuated all sorts of things that I made his company look bad, and his
equipment and computers were being used for harassment and stalking, and so
on.

My postings are an open book. My employer could see everything I posted. I
did nothing wrong, slandered no one, stalked no one, never used vulgar
language, and nothing had to be battled out that I did or didn't because
it's all here for everyone to see.

Anyway, that's only my point. That employers are liable and if we do
nothing wrong while on their clock, then there's nothing to explain.

That's how I see it. It has nothing to do with taking sides or being even
or anything. Of course, I did learn that I spend too much time posting when
I should be working... please don't turn me in, though.

Karen


surfing home

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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deacon blues wrote in message <392B390B...@ripco.com>...

>Dennis Here wrote:
>>
>> Peter F. DeMos wrote in message <392B1C9E...@peterd.com>...
>> >Karen Anderson O'Mara wrote:
>> >
>> >> Nobody can get anybody else fired from their job if they did nothing
>> >> to get fired for....
>> >
>> >Spare me, Karen. You take this "I'm the middle roader" WAAAY too far...
>>
>> Look who's talking.
>>
>> >And it's nothing but cr*p. NO ONE wants, or should *have*, to explain
>> >themselves to their boss, their spouse, ANYone, what one is doing on a
>> >newsgroup.
>>
>> Peter, why not take your own advice and stop persistently explaining it
to
>> us.
>>
>> Where has it got you six months down the line?
>> What do you hope to achieve?
>>
>
>from the various flames and off-topic postings that this peter guy
>puts up, he comes across to me as being kind of disturbed. i mean,
>anybody who says that he's gone out on dates with various women and
>found them *all* to be selfish sounds to me like someone with a
>problem.

Well I can't blame peter for this (if he *did* say it)... 99.99% of people
ARE selfish...*me* included...


Dolores

Nick Curtis

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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"deacon blues" <ron...@ripco.com> wrote in message
news:392B390B...@ripco.com...

<SNIP>

| from the various flames and off-topic postings that this
peter guy
| puts up, he comes across to me as being kind of disturbed.
i mean,
| anybody who says that he's gone out on dates with various
women and
| found them *all* to be selfish sounds to me like someone
with a
| problem.
|

| in this fingerpointing exchange here, i don't know who to
believe;
| i suppose i don't really care enough to research the
matter. however,
| i've seen enough lies and misrepresentations of my
postings on this
| newsgroup to definitely be suspicious of anything that
peterd posts.
| at the very least postings such as these seem extremely
petty. in
| fact, the stuff about being interviewed by the fbi sounds
pretty
| far-fetched. i don't know what that was all about, but if
he were
| suspected of being some sort of pedophile (as, by the way,
he has
| accused *others* of being - see the thread "want a baby"
to see what
| i mean) i would have thought that they wouldn't have
wanted to tip
| their hand until they had a chance to collect some
information (e.g.
| from his isp or employer without his knowledge).
|

<Snip some more>


HeHeHeHeHeHe

Hey there DB........

Is that a 'Petrol Can' I see in your hand...? AND matches
too ?

Tsk Tsk Tsk provocative......................

(You know this stuff has gotta stop cos my ribs is really
startin to hurt now........'Laughter' may well be the 'Best
Medicine' but I never knew you could Overdose on it......not
till this week....!!!)


ahhhh what the hell........


*CLICK*


susaneva

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deacon blues wrote:
>
> susaneva wrote:
> >
> > joshrobert wrote:
> > >
> > > I was just flicking through a few of the postings in this newsgroup thinking
> > > that it would be nice to get in contact with a few people in the same
> > > situation as myself. Thing is - it seems to me that most people posting are
> > > engaged in some sort of 'slanging match'. My question is a simple one
> > > .......... WHY?
> >
> > why do you care, if you've decided not to be part of this group?
> >
>
> because it's not for you to say who does and does not belong here.

I didn't do any such thing. He complained about the "lack of support"
at the same time as admitting that he'd never posted here before. So I
simply asked why he cared if there's no support if he doesn't plan to be
part of the group.

Shannon_35

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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ronald aka deacon blues:

<snip>


hey, i may not be a parent but from some of the people in this newsgroup

-- <snip>


this IS a parenting group -- still haven't figured out how a person
who has no children can dole out advice to those of us WHO are parents.
can't seem to find the logic in that--- on top of this you are always
putting the people in this group down, so why you continue to post is
beyond me----- shannon

Kate Fairleigh

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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someone who shall remain nameless wrote:

>because it's not for you to say who does and does not belong here.

>for that matter, it's not for any of the other people who seem to
>think of this newsgroup as their own private domain. i don't know
>how many times that has to be repeated. if you, or others want your
>own personal sandbox, then set up a PRIVATE mailing list.
>

Gee, I thought we did that? Oh, but he wouldn't know, cuz he's not on it.
hehehehe


Kate (aka "Meaghan's Mom") KFairlei at AOL dot COM ICQ 6802119
Single mom, Registered Nurse, aspiring midwife
"Don't just live the length of your life, live the width of it as well."
--Diane Ackerman

jar

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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cuz he's not on it.
>hehehehe
>
>
This reply is not directed at all those who replyed to my
original posting but to those few who used as an excuse to slag
of someone they do not know.

In answer to the huge can of worms I seem to have opened I would
like to make a few things clear. Obviously I don't know the
full story and all I wanted was for someone to reply to let me
know whether this support group was used soley by the
psychotic! If it is (and from many of you replys that seems to
be the case) then I might just feel right at home.

Secondly 'he' (who is excluded from private mailing groups) is
actually a she! The name I am posting under is that of my son
who likes seeing his name on the net. Finally the huge debate
cuurently raging about whether or not I will be allowed to join
this little support group must be silenced. I am here to stay
and to utilse a phrase of my sons 'you can't stop me'

To all those who enjoyed disecting my last message I hope this
one gives you food for thought and I also hope that in tearing
me to shreds you alleviate you own sense of inferiority.

Didi

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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Someone wrote:

>Secondly 'he' (who is excluded from private mailing groups) is actually a she!


The comment made by Kate was directed at Ronald -- our resident never married,
childless l00n who likes to stir up trouble.

>The name I am posting under is that of my son who likes seeing his name on the
net.

That's very nice for your son, but you might want to fill everyone else in on
what your name is -- it lends you much more credibility.

>Finally the huge debate cuurently raging about whether or not I will be
allowed to join
this little support group must be silenced. I am here to stay and to utilse a
phrase of my sons 'you can't stop me'

Noone is trying to stop you from joining -- you came into the ng with a very
provacative statement/question, and you got exactly what those kind of
questions prompt. Why don't you relax, stop being defensive, and start over by
introducing yourself and letting people in on what your particular
circumstances, as a single mother, are. You will get a lot more positive
feedback in return.

Furthermore, look up the FAQ, and you will get the answer to your original
question about what the purpose of this group is.

Didi
"A dead thing can go with a stream, only a living thing can go against it."
G.K. Chesterton

Didi

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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Shannon so observantly questioned Ronald:

>this IS a parenting group -- still haven't figured out how a person who has
no children can dole out advice to those of us WHO are parents. can't seem to
find the logic in that--- on top of this you are always
putting the people in this group down, so why you continue to post is beyond
me----- shannon

He is a loser!! He actually considered having a child, purposefully, on his
own -- decided that it was better for him to NOT do it -- but now he wants to
criticize US because we have children. Sour grapes is all......

Peter F. DeMos

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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jar wrote, amongst other things:

> This reply is not directed at all those who replyed to my
> original posting but to those few who used as an excuse to slag
> of someone they do not know.

> In answer to the huge can of worms I seem to have opened I would
> like to make a few things clear. Obviously I don't know the
> full story and all I wanted was for someone to reply to let me
> know whether this support group was used soley by the
> psychotic!

I'll interject here. A friend of mine believes that some of the sickest
people on the net are attracted to the groups with "support" in their
title. Sadly, I have come to agree with her.

> If it is (and from many of you replys that seems to
> be the case) then I might just feel right at home.

You'll notice, I hope, that several were polite, and responded directly


to your question. For example, Pat wrote:

>> Sorry Jar.. this hasn't been a problem for a while, but it
>> seems to have surfaced again... the trouble is the person who stirs
>> the pot, has just started up again....
>> Welcome and keep reading

You continued:

> the huge debate
> cuurently raging about whether or not I will be allowed to join
> this little support group must be silenced.

I've seen no one debating your right to "join." I've seen some of the
resident morons that have taken up residence here lately use it as an
excuse to slap you and others including myselft, but no one has said you
can't join. It just gave the trolling few a chance to go off on another
ugly tangent. The kind this group has bean infected with for about....
six months. A couple of joined since the original sicko came here, (the
one you id'd immediately) but for the most part this is, and has
historically been, a good group. A group doesn't get a FAQ as well
developed and complete without having gone through a lot of growth, and
growing pains.

> There are enough situations in life
> where you are forced into ongoing arguments with people - why
> join a newsgroup to do the same thing.

That has bean the mystifying part. The person you noticed now is lucky
to get a "well, I don't hate her." I too find it bizarre that anyone
would day in, day out, put up with nothing but negativity, and the need
to destroy something they aren't even a part of.

> Finally I am here to stay


> and to utilse a phrase of my sons 'you can't stop me'

As much as you sound like a "level-headed" person, don't be so sure.
I've bean around newsgroups/BBSs for a long time, and I've seen *many* a
person excluded to the point they just leave because no one gives them
the time of day. Eventually the tree that isn't heard leaves, cuz it
gets bored with no response/reaction. Of course, today's new age poster
(Thanks Billy G!) doesn't seem to exhibit the control this venue used to
employ.

Anywho, welcome aboard. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. And what's
your name?

Karen Anderson O'Mara

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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Kate Fairleigh wrote:

> someone who shall remain nameless wrote:
>
> >because it's not for you to say who does and does not belong here.
> >for that matter, it's not for any of the other people who seem to
> >think of this newsgroup as their own private domain. i don't know
> >how many times that has to be repeated. if you, or others want your
> >own personal sandbox, then set up a PRIVATE mailing list.
> >
>

> Gee, I thought we did that? Oh, but he wouldn't know, cuz he's not on it.
> hehehehe

Hey, I'm not either!

Karen

Karen Anderson O'Mara

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May 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/25/00
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jar wrote:

> This reply is not directed at all those who replyed to my
> original posting but to those few who used as an excuse to slag
> of someone they do not know.
>
> In answer to the huge can of worms I seem to have opened I would
> like to make a few things clear. Obviously I don't know the
> full story and all I wanted was for someone to reply to let me
> know whether this support group was used soley by the

> psychotic! If it is (and from many of you replys that seems to


> be the case) then I might just feel right at home.
>

> Secondly 'he' (who is excluded from private mailing groups) is

> actually a she! The name I am posting under is that of my son
> who likes seeing his name on the net. Finally the huge debate


> cuurently raging about whether or not I will be allowed to join

> this little support group must be silenced. I am here to stay


> and to utilse a phrase of my sons 'you can't stop me'
>

> To all those who enjoyed disecting my last message I hope this
> one gives you food for thought and I also hope that in tearing
> me to shreds you alleviate you own sense of inferiority.

I didn't get an engraved invitation to post here, or any synopsis of what
happened before I came, so my advice is not make such a big deal about it and
post if you want, or don't if you don't want to, ok? If you're that curious
about the endless saga, then try DejaNews to read the archives, but it's not
that interesting and it still doesn't solve anything.

Karen


Nick Curtis

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"jar" <joshrober...@ukonline.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
message news:00307aeb...@usw-ex0106-046.remarq.com...

| In answer to the huge can of worms I seem to have opened I
would
| like to make a few things clear. Obviously I don't know
the
| full story and all I wanted was for someone to reply to
let me
| know whether this support group was used soley by the
| psychotic! If it is (and from many of you replys that
seems to
| be the case) then I might just feel right at home.

You certainly got the 'Sense o' Humour' For it

| To all those who enjoyed disecting my last message I hope
this
| one gives you food for thought and I also hope that in
tearing
| me to shreds you alleviate you own sense of inferiority.

Ahhhh take no notice....they is all 'Americans' tha'sall <G>
They dont know no better....

<Thinx - If'n it had'nt been for that 'Little Local
Difficulty' in Boston some time ago they'd all be calling us
'Sir' or in your case 'Ma'am'...>

I is just a little sloooooowwwwwww on the uptake this
week...took me a while to notice the UK Email Addy...So
whats yer name?...an dont take the 'Colonial Cousins' too
seriously...They is *all* Bark and *no* bite....Now
'dolores' on the other hand..........

Nick

Ms. B

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jar wrote:
>
> cuz he's not on it.
> >hehehehe
> >
> >
> This reply is not directed at all those who replyed to my
> original posting but to those few who used as an excuse to slag
> of someone they do not know.
>
> In answer to the huge can of worms I seem to have opened I would
> like to make a few things clear. Obviously I don't know the
> full story and all I wanted was for someone to reply to let me
> know whether this support group was used soley by the
> psychotic! If it is (and from many of you replys that seems to
> be the case) then I might just feel right at home.
>
> Secondly 'he' (who is excluded from private mailing groups) is
> actually a she! The name I am posting under is that of my son
> who likes seeing his name on the net. Finally the huge debate
> cuurently raging about whether or not I will be allowed to join
> this little support group must be silenced. I am here to stay
> and to utilse a phrase of my sons 'you can't stop me'
>
> To all those who enjoyed disecting my last message I hope this
> one gives you food for thought and I also hope that in tearing
> me to shreds you alleviate you own sense of inferiority.
> >
>
> * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network *
> The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

Good come back!!! :)

Have fun with us mixed up insane group!! Glad to have another abnormal
amongst us!!!

hugs from orlando
b

jar

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I guess I better tell you all a bit about myself now that we
have got over the polite introduction stage. My name is Shannon
and I live in Ireland. My son is five years old and a real pain
in the backside at times (just being honest) the rest of the
time he's the best child in the world.

My situation is a strange one but I'll tell you about it anyway
because it's kind of fairytaleish (don't think that's a real
word but what the hell.) I fell pregnant with my son at the
ripe old age of eighteen and although I had been with my partner
for quite a while he shot through and left me holding the baby -
well actually he was just a bump at that stage. We stayed in
contact but he never saw Josh, he never asked how he was doing
and he never spoke to him on the phone. Having said that he
always sent me money and he always checked on how I was doing.
Anyway to cut a long story short on Josh's fourth birthday he
asked to see him and I said he could. So for the past year and
a half he has been the best dad a child could ask for. He sees
him for two weekends a month (and he has to come from mainland
Britain to do so.) There is no romance between us and there
never will be but I can honestly say that he is the best friend
I have!


At the moment I am doing a degree in English (and before someone
posts a witty account of all my spelling mistake I'd like to
make it clear that I know I can't spell) and I can honestly say
that life is good. The only problem is that there don't seem to
be enough hours in the day and most of the time I fell like I've
just been run over by a train.

So thats my life story (I feel like I've just been to
confession) although I am aware that noone will be interested in
the slightest but I just thought I'd tell you anyway because
thats just what us Irish are like - bore you to death given half
a chance.

And finally (everyone sighs with relief) at the risk of being
laughed into oblivion I thought I would say that contrary to my
original impression most of you seem alright. Just one more
thing is it compulsory to type an inappropriate quote or mantra
at the end of your postings?

Ms. B

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Nick Curtis wrote:
>
> "jar" <joshrober...@ukonline.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
> message news:00307aeb...@usw-ex0106-046.remarq.com...
>
> | In answer to the huge can of worms I seem to have opened I
> would
> | like to make a few things clear. Obviously I don't know
> the
> | full story and all I wanted was for someone to reply to
> let me
> | know whether this support group was used soley by the
> | psychotic! If it is (and from many of you replys that
> seems to
> | be the case) then I might just feel right at home.
>
> You certainly got the 'Sense o' Humour' For it
>
> | To all those who enjoyed disecting my last message I hope
> this
> | one gives you food for thought and I also hope that in
> tearing
> | me to shreds you alleviate you own sense of inferiority.
>
> Ahhhh take no notice....they is all 'Americans' tha'sall <G>
> They dont know no better....
>
> <Thinx - If'n it had'nt been for that 'Little Local
> Difficulty' in Boston some time ago they'd all be calling us
> 'Sir' or in your case 'Ma'am'...>
>
> I is just a little sloooooowwwwwww on the uptake this
> week...took me a while to notice the UK Email Addy...So
> whats yer name?...an dont take the 'Colonial Cousins' too
> seriously...They is *all* Bark and *no* bite....Now
> 'dolores' on the other hand..........
>
> Nick

Bark bark bark......I'll bite ya if you want!!!!

Karen Anderson O'Mara

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jar wrote:

> I guess I better tell you all a bit about myself now that we
> have got over the polite introduction stage. My name is Shannon
> and I live in Ireland.

I *thought* I detected an accent!

:-D

Karen


surfing home

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jar wrote in message <0bc765d6...@usw-ex0101-007.remarq.com>...

>I guess I better tell you all a bit about myself now that we
>have got over the polite introduction stage. My name is Shannon
>and I live in Ireland.

LOL.... NOW DONT YE BELIEVE ME ...about the fridge having a nervous
breakdown..Monica in the Loo and the loo brush that spits!!.... here's the
River Shannon .... and she's a s/p...nananannana!!.. so the lot of ye can go
and eat yer hats... LOL :o)))

Hiya Shannon!!.. how's it going?.. Dont take a blind bit 'o heed of this lot
round here..stark staring mad..the whole lot 'o them!!... :o))) <psst>.. I
reckon *I* am the only sane one round here..weell maybe with the exception
of Kate and Karen!!.. but Karen is usually legless (manic for the
booze!!!)... and Kate is on the run from MONICA...LOL ...the last we heard
she was chewing her way through the holiday camp security...ya know!!...
looooong sleeved jackets and basket weaving..... wink wink nod nod.

My son is five years old and a real pain
>in the backside at times (just being honest) the rest of the
>time he's the best child in the world.

Well if anyone ever says different they're born liars... Mine though, on the
other hands are little paragons of virtue!!.. heavenly little bodies they
are!


>
>My situation is a strange one but I'll tell you about it anyway
>because it's kind of fairytaleish (don't think that's a real
>word but what the hell.) I fell pregnant with my son at the
>ripe old age of eighteen and although I had been with my partner
>for quite a while he shot through and left me holding the baby -
>well actually he was just a bump at that stage. We stayed in
>contact but he never saw Josh, he never asked how he was doing
>and he never spoke to him on the phone. Having said that he
>always sent me money and he always checked on how I was doing.
>Anyway to cut a long story short on Josh's fourth birthday he
>asked to see him and I said he could. So for the past year and
>a half he has been the best dad a child could ask for. He sees
>him for two weekends a month (and he has to come from mainland
>Britain to do so.) There is no romance between us and there
>never will be but I can honestly say that he is the best friend
>I have!

I'm glad to hear he is now a part of your sons life... your son can only
benefit from it..and it will give you better peace of mind too (I hope)..

AND make damn sure ya get the child support too....THAT is vital, crucial,
essential.... just ask everyone else here... they'll back me up 100% on this
one!! <wink wink> (wait for the rush!).


>
>
>At the moment I am doing a degree in English

Fair play to ya!!... how is it going for you? How long have you left to do?

(and before someone
>posts a witty account of all my spelling mistake I'd like to
>make it clear that I know I can't spell) and I can honestly say
>that life is good. The only problem is that there don't seem to
>be enough hours in the day and most of the time I fell like I've
>just been run over by a train.

I can understand that... studying and kids are one hell of a combination...
but it's worth it in the end....


>
>So thats my life story (I feel like I've just been to

>confession)although I am aware that noone will be interested in
>the slightest

Dont be silly!!.. I'm delighted there's another Irish gal here!!.. which far
flung part of Ireland are you from.... I come from Mayo.... I'm presently
living in berkshire Uk (yuukk).. weell until the council tow me caravan
anyway!!... (Trailer!)..

but I just thought I'd tell you anyway because
>thats just what us Irish are like - bore you to death given half
>a chance.


Oh..they know already!!....

I'm hanging on be the skin of me teeth....LOL... they just *cant* get rid of
me!!..and I aint planning on putting air between my tush and the seat *just*
yet...LOL


>
>And finally (everyone sighs with relief) at the risk of being
>laughed into oblivion

Believe you me....just wait till ya see some of the posts... you'll be
eating the carpet :o)) you just gotta meet....aaah well...you'll see!!...
LOL


I thought I would say that contrary to my
>original impression most of you seem alright.

*AND* ...they dont fart!!...

Just one more
>thing is it compulsory to type an inappropriate quote or mantra
>at the end of your postings?

I daren't!!

Dolores


surfing home

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Nick Curtis wrote in message <8gjmkl$1fo4h$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

>
>"jar" <joshrober...@ukonline.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
>message news:00307aeb...@usw-ex0106-046.remarq.com...
>

Snipped

>
>| To all those who enjoyed disecting my last message I hope
>this
>| one gives you food for thought and I also hope that in
>tearing
>| me to shreds you alleviate you own sense of inferiority.
>
>Ahhhh take no notice....they is all 'Americans' tha'sall <G>
>They dont know no better....
>
><Thinx - If'n it had'nt been for that 'Little Local
>Difficulty' in Boston some time ago they'd all be calling us
>'Sir' or in your case 'Ma'am'...>
>
>I is just a little sloooooowwwwwww on the uptake this
>week...took me a while to notice the UK Email Addy...So
>whats yer name?...an dont take the 'Colonial Cousins' too
>seriously...They is *all* Bark and *no* bite....Now
>'dolores' on the other hand..........

Yes Nick?.... grrrrr.... :o)))

Dolores
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

os...@techie.com

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jar wrote:

> Finally the huge debate
> cuurently raging about whether or not I will be allowed to join
> this little support group must be silenced. I am here to stay
> and to utilse a phrase of my sons 'you can't stop me'
>

Ha! LOL. Oh, good, another determined woman. Welcome!

>
> To all those who enjoyed disecting my last message I hope this
> one gives you food for thought and I also hope that in tearing
> me to shreds you alleviate you own sense of inferiority.

Yes, I notice a whole lot of shredding going on here too but there are some
great folks here and some witty ones too. I'm Lorian, single mother of one
13-year-old boy. How many children do you have?


Maureen

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Nick Curtis wrote:

> I is just a little sloooooowwwwwww on the uptake this
> week...took me a while to notice the UK Email Addy...So
> whats yer name?...an dont take the 'Colonial Cousins' too
> seriously...They is *all* Bark and *no* bite....Now
> 'dolores' on the other hand..........
>

> Nick

Hey! I bite!!!

Maureen

Annie Mouse

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Shannon_35 wrote:

> this IS a parenting group -- still haven't figured out how a person
> who has no children can dole out advice to those of us WHO are parents.
> can't seem to find the logic in that---

Maybe he thinks that since he has a cat, he qualifies. :)

'Kate

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> P.S. The quotes are optional but they're supposed to be designed to say a
> little something about yourself or your beliefs.
> Being an English major, I am sure that you could come up with some real
> doozies.

>
> Didi
> "A dead thing can go with a stream, only a living thing can go against
it."
> G.K. Chesterton

oh heck... and all this time I've been quoteless?

I'll think of something. Honest. Give me a minute... or three.

'Kate
<quoteless for now but just you wait!>

'Kate

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"jar" <joshrober...@ukonline.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:0bc765d6...@usw-ex0101-007.remarq.com...

> I guess I better tell you all a bit about myself now that we
> have got over the polite introduction stage.

Hiya Shannon. There are a lot of other single parent students here. We're
all rather... frayed at times. I think Maureen wins the "overachiever
award" though. Five children, single parent, full time student. If you
need tips, she'd be the one to go to. I'm a 3/4 time student and mother of
3.

'Kate

Kathryn Litherland

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Welcome to the weird and wonderful world of ASS-P, Shannon. I'll snip to
the chase...

On Thu, 25 May 2000, jar wrote:
<snip>


> And finally (everyone sighs with relief) at the risk of being

> laughed into oblivion I thought I would say that contrary to my
> original impression most of you seem alright. Just one more


> thing is it compulsory to type an inappropriate quote or mantra
> at the end of your postings?

Why, yes, it is compulsory. That's very astute of you to notice it. In
the event that you are unable to provide an inappropriate quote or mantra,
one will randomly be assigned to you.

|Kathy Litherland | People make their own history, but
No hacemos el amor;|Dept. of Anthro | they do not make it under
El nos hace |U. of Illinois | circumstances of their own choosing


Kathryn Litherland

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Hey, waaaaaiiiit. I gotta ideeeea! He's single! He's got parents! He
must thing this is a NG for single folk who have parents!

Pat Strong

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vick...@my-deja.com wrote:

> In article <3026-392...@storefull-154.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,


> shann...@webtv.net (Shannon_35) wrote:
> >
> > ronald aka deacon blues:
> >
> > <snip>
> > hey, i may not be a parent but from some of the people in this
> newsgroup
> > -- <snip>
> >

> > this IS a parenting group -- still haven't figured out how a person
> > who has no children can dole out advice to those of us WHO are
> parents.

> > can't seem to find the logic in that--- on top of this you are always


> > putting the people in this group down, so why you continue to post is
> > beyond me----- shannon
> >
> >
>

> Just for thoughts sake, my sis sits in on groups, etc. She counsels and
> wants a good idea on how single moms and dads "do it"

Uh... don't people all over the world "do it" just about the same way?????
(LOL)

> compared to two
> parent households. I admire people who want to learn about kids before
> they have them. I do not know Deacon Blues from Adam, but hey, why can
> someone not posts a different view? Perhaps that way, we do not get
> Blind sided on "single parenting".
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Vicky, I believe he is the one who wanted to find a woman to bear a child
FOR him and maybe, if she was lucky, he'd consider a relationship with
her....... ug

Pat

correct me someone if I am amiss

Dennis Here

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jar wrote in message <0bc765d6...@usw-ex0101-007.remarq.com>...
>I guess I better tell you all a bit about myself now that we
>have got over the polite introduction stage. My name is Shannon
>and I live in Ireland.

Greetings from Dennis, also in Ireland but a good bit further south than
you.

> My son is five years old and a real pain
>in the backside at times (just being honest) the rest of the
>time he's the best child in the world.


No he's not, my four year old is :-)

snipped lots

>And finally (everyone sighs with relief) at the risk of being
>laughed into oblivion I thought I would say that contrary to my
>original impression most of you seem alright.

You old flatterer you.

> Just one more
>thing is it compulsory to type an inappropriate quote or mantra
>at the end of your postings?


Try one and I'll tell you what I think of it!

Dennis


Didi

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Welcome, Shannon....

I was trying to read your post imagining a thick Irish brogue.....

Where abouts are you in Ireland?
How old is your son -- I think, if I read correctly, he would be about 5 1/2?

Again, welcome.

vick...@my-deja.com

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In article <3929B146...@randomgraphics.com>,
ka...@randomgraphics.com wrote:
> joshrobert wrote:
>
> > I was just flicking through a few of the postings in this newsgroup
thinking
> > that it would be nice to get in contact with a few people in the
same
> > situation as myself. Thing is - it seems to me that most people
posting are
> > engaged in some sort of 'slanging match'. My question is a simple
one
> > .......... WHY?
>
> Why ask why?
>
> Karen
>
Try Bud Dry. I am sorry. I could not resist. Hi. Who's fighting?
MMM..I thought I was *trouble*. Drats. Lost my reputation.
How is it going Karen??? Catching up and wondering how my favorite ng
participants are.

vick...@my-deja.com

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In article <392AD2C9...@ulth.ca>,
susaneva <su...@ulth.ca> wrote:
>
>
> jar wrote:
> >
> > My point is that if people do not like other people in the
> > newgroup then surely they don't have to post messages to
> > them/read their postings. There are enough situations in life

> > where you are forced into ongoing arguments with people - why
> > join a newsgroup to do the same thing. I mean one girl was
> > saying that she had reported certain people in the newsgroup to
> > their employers! Doesn't that strike you as a trifle sad?
>
> Sad? Sad? Is that the best word you can come up with? She's tried
to
> have several people fired from their jobs. Sorry, but that comes up
as
> a little more than "sad" to my way of thinking. She's downright
> dangerous.

She is about as dangerous as my left toe. You guys just don't know
Lorian. Peter asked for a lot of it. Robbin got lippy. I would have
turned her in too if somene posted my name for sex.
She deserved a little spanking at work. Peter deserved a little
spanking from Cox Cable. You all forget they were posting nasty stuff
about her.
That is the perfect example of knowing about the whole story. Gosh.
When does a dead dog die?

vick...@my-deja.com

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Playing her "violin".......la la la la laaaaahhhhhh...

Hello. Well if it isn't your favorite Hillbilly. Looks like that Cyber
stalking law is kinda coming in handy. If I recall correctly...and
perhaps old posted messages can verify...You were the one posting her
info and threatening her.

Now, now...stop being a victim.


In article <392B1C9E...@peterd.com>,
"Peter F. DeMos" <pet...@peterd.com> wrote:
> Karen Anderson O'Mara wrote:
>
> > Nobody can get anybody else fired from their job if they did nothing
> > to get fired for....
>
> Spare me, Karen. You take this "I'm the middle roader" WAAAY too
far...
> And it's nothing but cr*p. NO ONE wants, or should *have*, to explain
> themselves to their boss, their spouse, ANYone, what one is doing on a
> newsgroup.
>
> I was doing nothing illegal, and yet I had to endure COUNTLESS emails
to
> my boss, my boss's isp, and ultimately calls to the FBI, where I had
to
> go be interviewed, and basically WARNED that this thing I'm playing
with
> is a snake, and very dangerous. Robbin had the same thing. And when
Rob
> stopped posting from her work account, and started posting privately?
> That snake STILL contacted Rob's place of work, threatened them, and
> said she felt threatened and it was Rob's fault, ergo IU was partly
> responsible. D-E-S-P-I-C-A-B-L-E.
>
> I have NEVER had the net taken into my living room in the manner that
> this thing has. NO ONE should have to endure anything like that, just
> because a person is so mentally disturbed that she'll try any way she
> can to get someone fired, or arrested, just because she blames the
> world, her "brief lay in the sack sperm donor", and her daddy for not
> loving her enough.
>
> The letters to my boss insisted on my being fired, or she'd
bring "legal
> action" against the isp and my company. When that fizzled, she brought
> in the police and ultimately the FBI.
>
> Now, she can DENY trying to get any of us fired, and you can SAY that
> it's no.big.deal, but I think you're both....
>
> Full.of.bull.
>
> And obviously, 98% of the people around here agree. So go ahead and
show
> us how smart you are. Show us how "even" you are. I say: bull.


>
> peterd
> --The original peterd. Accept no Substitutes.--
> http://www.peterd.com
>

vick...@my-deja.com

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