Guys that look after themselves physically indicate to everyone that the
fellow
to a certain extent is goal oriented because everyone knows that
weightlifting
requires dedication. Making him a firefighter means he is used to
working with
others, is team oriented. Most firefighters by their nature are sports
oriented
because it is a team thing. So it is a little weird that the fireman is
not
sports minded. If you depicted yourself as a security guard who smoked
and loved
to watch tv, you responses would have been much more modest. When you
say some of
the girls were quie ugly, what do you mean, weight problems or what?
Ugly has
so many meanings.
Women are very visual, teeth and shoes are criticial beause they speak
about what
can't bee seen. Women are generally polite. They have known lots of
guys from the time
they were in first year school to their early twenties.
> gty wrote:
>>
>> I made up a fake ad using the pic of this goodlooking guy with a good
>> chest. I was really surprised that about 30 women immediately
responded
>> to me. I made him a firefighter but he was bad at sports and serious.
>> they want to meet him right away. Some of the girls are quite ugly. I
>> didn't think women were so visual. I need to start weight lifting.
>
> Guys that look after themselves physically indicate to everyone that
the
> fellow
> to a certain extent is goal oriented because everyone knows that
> weightlifting
> requires dedication. Making him a firefighter means he is used to
> working with
> others, is team oriented.
It's also seen as an exciting (x-treme), heroic profession, particularly
in the wake of 9/11. (Maybe this is just a US thing, though.)
> to watch tv, you responses would have been much more modest. When you
> say some of
> the girls were quie ugly, what do you mean, weight problems or what?
> Ugly has
> so many meanings.
Considering the source, he probably means they were out of diapers and
weighed more than 1 lb/inch of height.
> Women are very visual, teeth and shoes are criticial beause they speak
I've never heard the claim that women care about men's shoes. Certainly,
they care about their OWN shoes, but men's shoes? Nahh. Not unless he's
dressing formal.
>When you say some of the girls were quie ugly, what do you mean,
>weight problems or what? Ugly has so many meanings.
It's probably meaningless when gty uses the word "ugly", cuz if you read him
awhile, you'll see he's a little out of touch here.
For example, he descreibed Jennifer Lopez as a fat disgusting hag.
Baybee
do you have a link to the profile or pic?
i'll do it tomorrow. tired. i will show you the the emails and pic from
ugly girl who is corresponding with him.
Hi, let's see you don't get last borns. That's so funny. Where did you
come up with that. Actually now that you've mentioned it, I don't
understand first borns. They say first borns are mostly managers, I
don't know if that's true. Well, I work mostly, in my spare time I
spend it with family and friends. What about you? You have a nice way
of coming across, I hadn't laughed in awhile and your email was amusing
to me (in a good way). Well I'm just watching "Good Wil Hunting" and
getting ready for my day tomorrow. What do you do, can I ask?
http://img120.echo.cx/img120/2415/me4sx.png
http://img120.echo.cx/img120/446/givanna3he.png
gty,
you can get angry, but you'd prolly be better off if you get real. what i mean
is, you don't seem to have a grip on who's typically considered ugly and who
isn't. if you have oddball perception, you prolly can't change that, but you
can pay attention to others. i worked as a cocktail waitress and then a
bartender for years and years. i know who stares at who and who tends to get
hit on etc, etc. you wrote that you didn't think the male model guy was that
hot. hint: he's *very* hot. you wrote that ugly women (3's) think they got a
chance. The pics you posted weren't pics of ugly women (3's). they're prolly
more in the 6-7 range.
links to gty's pics:
http://img120.echo.cx/img120/2415/me4sx.png
http://img120.echo.cx/img120/446/givanna3he.png
http://img120.echo.cx/img120/5312/annacurrent2zn.png
Also, you wrote that these women responded to super hot guy *after* you had him
write to them first, and that you couldn't believe they thought they had a
chance.
Well whey wouldn't they think they had a chance? He wrote the them first.
Baybee
nope, he does not appear to be short and he certainly aint too skinny.
he's very hot.
http://img120.echo.cx/img120/2415/me4sx.png
>He's not smiling.
so?
>as far as the women, they are
>definitely 3 or 4's. definitely no higher.
no, here's a 3.5
http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=BMGMBSG&key=TYQ
gty, you are out of touch with mainstream opinion.
If you do not believe me, post their pics on hot or not.
I'm sure they'd get 6-7 or higher.
http://img120.echo.cx/img120/446/givanna3he.png
http://img120.echo.cx/img120/5312/annacurrent2zn.png
those women would have plenty of guys trying to chat em up at any normal party
or bar. the brunette would have guys staring at her chest and the blond has a
cute face and she looks pleasant.
gty, I think your problem is you mis-classify cute women as ugly, and are then
surprised when they aint overly flattered when you lower your standards enough
to hit on them. Probably, the opposite happens. I'm sure you get blown off
quite frequently. One reason for this should be obvious. These women get hit
on by plenty of guys who honestly find 'em cute, so they probably are rather
insulted and are not inclined to bother with a guy who thinks he is slumming.
Baybee
Goddess Baybee,
I'm sure you realize that unless you consider women to be prospective sexual
partners, your personal ratings of their attractiveness carry no weight
whatsoever in this discussion. Are you in fact bisexual? I'm honestly
curious.
As a matter of fact, even if you are bisexual, your standards for a
prospective female partner will likely differ markedly from those of
heterosexual men, and are still therefore utterly irrelevant.
By making these pathetic and laughable attempts to influence the legitimate
opinions of heterosexual men, you reveal yourself to be none other than a
megalomaniacal control freak.
Sorry, but you're going to have to take gty's ratings at face value.
> gty, you are out of touch with mainstream opinion.
> If you do not believe me, post their pics on hot or not.
> I'm sure they'd get 6-7 or higher.
>
gty probably could not care less about "mainstream opinion." He has a right
to his own opinion, and I happen to agree with it.
> http://img120.echo.cx/img120/446/givanna3he.png
> http://img120.echo.cx/img120/5312/annacurrent2zn.png
>
> those women would have plenty of guys trying to chat em up at any normal
> party
> or bar. the brunette would have guys staring at her chest and the blond
> has a
> cute face and she looks pleasant.
>
> gty, I think your problem is you mis-classify cute women as ugly, and are
> then
> surprised when they aint overly flattered when you lower your standards
> enough
> to hit on them. Probably, the opposite happens. I'm sure you get blown
> off
> quite frequently. One reason for this should be obvious. These women get
> hit
> on by plenty of guys who honestly find 'em cute, so they probably are
> rather
> insulted and are not inclined to bother with a guy who thinks he is
> slumming.
>
>
> Baybee
>
It's a seller's market, Baybee. The guys who hit on these women don't
necessarily find them "cute" at all. "Targets of opportunity," more likely.
In other words, such men *are* slumming. And unless they do or say
something really stupid, their partners tend to remain none the wiser.
In case you haven't noticed, neither sex is particularly immune to flattery.
It's not difficult to fool most women, especially those of the narcissistic
Western variety, into believing they're more attractive than they really
are.
I would suggest you not permit your judgment to be skewed by the behavior of
men who are slaves to their sexual appetite. Such men will tolerate not
only a woman's mediocre appearance, but her vapid sluttish personality as
well.
Rick
>I'm sure you realize that unless you consider women to be prospective sexual
>partners, your personal ratings of their attractiveness carry no weight
>whatsoever in this discussion. Are you in fact bisexual? I'm honestly
>curious.
No, I'm not bisexual.
I use to work as a bartender and cocktail waitress for years and years.
I've paid attention to who stares at who and who gets hit on.
I mentioned this earlier in the thread.
>As a matter of fact, even if you are bisexual, your standards for a
>prospective female partner will likely differ markedly from those of
>heterosexual men, and are still therefore utterly irrelevant.
observations of who gets stared at, asked about, bought drinks, hit on, etc etc
aint irrelevant in a discussion about sexual attractiveness.
>By making these pathetic and laughable attempts to influence the legitimate
>opinions of heterosexual men, you reveal yourself to be none other than a
>megalomaniacal control freak.
nope, cuz I'm not trying to tell any guy that *he* should find any woman in
particular attractive. if he finds some chick ugly, then he finds her ugly.
I'm simply pointing out that this may not mean she is considered ugly by
mainstream standards. for example, Jennifer Lopez make millions off her looks
(it can't be her singing), and that gty guy described her as a fat ugly hag.
>Sorry, but you're going to have to take gty's ratings at face value.
For gty, yep, I'd certainly take 'em at face value.
But he describes women as ugly who I've noticed most men would consider above
average.
Poor gty has posted that he doesn't understand why he gets rejected by "ugly"
women. An obvious possible explanation for this is these "ugly" women aint
really ugly.
Baybee
>> no, here's a 3.5
>> http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=BMGMBSG&key=TYQ
>
>That's a total zero. Nil. Nada.
>3.5?
It aint my opinion.
She's been rated by over 6000 people and apparently she got a 3.5
>Get real silly bitch.
If you don't believe me,
just click on the hot or not link,
rate her, then her overall rating will pop up.
http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eidÂ=BMGMBSG&key=TYQ
Baybee
where do you get that?
you can't even see her butt in the pic
http://img120.echo.cx/img120/446/givanna3he.png
>she may have an amazing
>personality that takes her up to an 8 but i'm only considering physical
>appearance. she's italian which is half black
huh?
since when is Italian "half black".
>so she will have a
>problem with black pubic hair and hair in places it should not be. the
>hot or not girl you posted is about a 2.
The 3.5 wasn't my opinion.
She got over 6000 votes on hot or not, and that was her rating.
Baybee
Opps,
disregard the last link.
If a pic of a woman in a black jacket and white shirt doesn't pop up,
it was copied and pasted wrong. I'll try it again.
http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=BMGMBSG&key=TYQ
Baybee
> Opps,
> disregard the last link.
> If a pic of a woman in a black jacket and white shirt
> doesn't pop up, it was copied and pasted wrong.
> I'll try it again.
>
> http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=BMGMBSG&key=TYQ
Wow, your earlier comment about her having a '3.5' from
over 6000 votes is correct. I gave her a '2' and learned
that she's averaging '3.5' from 6720 votes.
Virgo Cluster
. "Stupid Government and Bureaucracy in the U.S.A.
..
.. The U.S. government -- and all other official and
.. quasi-official bureaucracies -- is the source of much
.. material on the stupid side of things. Perhaps this
.. surprises you. Perhaps you think, as a red-blooded
.. patriot, that it is impossible for the government
.. (whether federal, state, or municipal) to do anything
.. stupid ... and for our elected or appointed officials
.. to do anything stupid. (Perhaps you also haven't been
.. reading the papers, watching television news, or keeping
.. up with current events. But that is none of our business.)
..
.. JUST PLAIN FOLKS: WHEN POLITICIANS TRY TO ACT LIKE YOU AND ME
..
.. Often, in efforts to garner votes or support, politicians
.. pretend that they're not millionaires or Washington insiders
.. but regular Joes. The kind of person who shops at Wal-Mart,
.. needs his tax refund to buy a new couch, and so on. clearly,
.. politicians feel that John or Jane Q. Voter will think,
.. "Gee. He or she is not a wealthy Washington insider who
.. could buy and sell my entire neighborhood. He's just plain
.. folks." However, all too often, this thought never occurs
.. to said John or Jane as this time-honored campaign trick
.. has a fascinating tendency to backfire . . . .
..
.. WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE U.S. SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT
..
.. Perhaps we get what we deserve....According to two
.. different surveys, one conducted by the National
.. Constitutional Center in September 1997 and another
.. commissioned by Columbia Law School in May 2002:
..
.. One of the rights guaranteed by the First Amendment
.. is "freedom from fear" "
..
<< Kathryn Petras and Ross Petras, "Unusually Stupid
.. Americans: A Compendium of All-American Stupidity",
.. Villard Books, 2003, pp. 33 & 41-42 >>