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Dale Greer

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Aug 30, 2002, 8:29:56 PM8/30/02
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The apartments where I live have a fitness center where I sometimes go to
work out. There's this girl I've seen three or four times over the course of
a couple of months. Each time I think she's giving me the eye, but it's not
like a flirty thing, so I can't tell what's up with her. This time, I
decided that instead of my normal automatic shy aversion reaction, I would
pretend I was self-confident and flirted with women all the time.

I ended up not going up to her, but I did make progress. I got to where I
felt completely comfortable making eye contact with her. But the weird thing
is, when we did make eye contact, she just looked straight into my eyes,
with not much expression. Usually when someone is attracted to you, their
eyes kind of flash when they make contact with yours, and then their eyelids
might blink lightly. Also, a woman will break off contact by looking down
possibly with a slight smile. This girl just looks into my eyes, no
expression, I can't figure out what it means.

So anyway, next time I plan to communicate with using facial expressions, to
see how she reacts. Then if it's favorable, I'll go up and say hi.

Pretending to be self-confident is almost as good as having true
self-confidence. I got the idea after reading about how to write a query
letter to a publisher in this year's Writer's Market. I've never had
anything published for money, so my query letter was self-deprecating and
tentative, but the article said don't be that way. Act like you know what
you're doing, even if you don't. Act like you're a professional and you're
more likely to be treated as one. Stuff I already knew, of course, but
sometimes you have to be reminded of these things. So I decided to apply
this professional advice to my personal life, and so far I think it's
working.

Intruder

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Aug 30, 2002, 9:04:52 PM8/30/02
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> I ended up not going up to her, but I did make progress.

> This girl just looks into my eyes, no


> expression, I can't figure out what it means.

She's most likely wondering: "I wonder what happened to that poor mans
face?"

> So anyway, next time I plan to communicate with using facial expressions,
to
> see how she reacts. Then if it's favorable, I'll go up and say hi.

This is the second time you've reported letting this opportunity pass you by
because you're afraid to walk up to her and introduce yourself. Your
chances of finding true love are so remote that they are virtually
nonexistent.

--
Intruder


Voice of Unreason

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Aug 30, 2002, 8:10:03 PM8/30/02
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Intruder wrote:
you're afraid to walk up to her and introduce
> yourself.

Shit! that's where I've been going wrong!!


mathieu78

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Aug 31, 2002, 2:19:22 AM8/31/02
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Intruder <n...@home.com> wrote in message
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> > I ended up not going up to her, but I did make progress.
>
> > This girl just looks into my eyes, no
> > expression, I can't figure out what it means.
>
> She's most likely wondering: "I wonder what happened to that poor mans
> face?"

Trolling put aside(dale isn't facially ugly) I would tend to say that she
isn't physically attracted or anything.Otherwise she would have give you the
typical signals.From what you said, she didn't.
Though you never know.

>
> > So anyway, next time I plan to communicate with using facial
expressions,
> to
> > see how she reacts. Then if it's favorable, I'll go up and say hi.

Good plan.

Pauligap1

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Aug 31, 2002, 5:14:16 AM8/31/02
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Sounds like you're on the right track, bro. don't worry about what other
people think of you or your actions. When you treat others w/respect & ask
only for that in return, where's the beef? I wish you luck.

caulfield

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Aug 31, 2002, 5:31:29 AM8/31/02
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In article <FCD22DD8526B7B2D.3FB83247...@lp.airnews.net>,
dmg...@nspm.airmail.net, Dale Greer says...

>So anyway, next time I plan to communicate with using facial expressions, to
>see how she reacts. Then if it's favorable, I'll go up and say hi.

I hope by facial expressions you don't mean sticking your tongue out at her!
Though that might work actually, she might think you're funny.
About that "weird eyes" she's giving you: Not all women know how to flirt.
Maybe she's just overcoming her shyness too and can't do more that a blank
stare.

Hotep

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Aug 31, 2002, 6:44:56 AM8/31/02
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caulfield <caulf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: In article <FCD22DD8526B7B2D.3FB83247...@lp.airnews.net>,


or maybe she's a succubus who yearns to drain his blood and steal his soul
after copulating with him whilst he sleeps. Or is that, before?
at least there's some sex involved...
(yeah, I know I'm making up my own stories about what succubi do)

pumpkin_head

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:27:44 PM8/31/02
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>
> I ended up not going up to her, but I did make progress. I got to where I
> felt completely comfortable making eye contact with her. But the weird
thing
> is, when we did make eye contact, she just looked straight into my eyes,
> with not much expression. Usually when someone is attracted to you, their
> eyes kind of flash when they make contact with yours, and then their
eyelids
> might blink lightly. Also, a woman will break off contact by looking down
> possibly with a slight smile. This girl just looks into my eyes, no
> expression, I can't figure out what it means.

I've heard a theory that someone's pupils will dilate when they see someone
they are attracted to. I don't know if it really happens though. See if
you can get close enough and look long enough, not too long though, to see
if it happens.

grasshopper

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:33:56 PM8/31/02
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Dale Greer <dmg...@nspm.airmail.net> wrote in message
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> The apartments where I live have a fitness center where I sometimes go to
> work out. There's this girl I've seen three or four times over the course
of
> a couple of months. Each time I think she's giving me the eye, but it's
not
> like a flirty thing, so I can't tell what's up with her. This time, I
> decided that instead of my normal automatic shy aversion reaction, I would
> pretend I was self-confident and flirted with women all the time.
>
> I ended up not going up to her, but I did make progress. I got to where I
> felt completely comfortable making eye contact with her. But the weird
thing
> is, when we did make eye contact, she just looked straight into my eyes,
> with not much expression. Usually when someone is attracted to you, their
> eyes kind of flash when they make contact with yours, and then their
eyelids
> might blink lightly. Also, a woman will break off contact by looking down
> possibly with a slight smile.

Sounds to me like you know what to expect pretty well :)

>This girl just looks into my eyes, no
> expression, I can't figure out what it means.

Sounds to me as though she might be afraid of men in general, and she sees
you as a predator rather than a potential friend. I don't know what she's
thinking, but that's what it sounds like to me. Maybe you look like
somebody to her. She might actually just be interested though, and be a
rather reactionless person. Who can really say?

> So anyway, next time I plan to communicate with using facial expressions,
to
> see how she reacts. Then if it's favorable, I'll go up and say hi.

Try it out and see what happens.

> Pretending to be self-confident is almost as good as having true
> self-confidence.

I read somewhere that courage is the art of being the only one who knows
you're scared to death. Earl Wilson said that.

I got the idea after reading about how to write a query
> letter to a publisher in this year's Writer's Market. I've never had
> anything published for money, so my query letter was self-deprecating and
> tentative, but the article said don't be that way. Act like you know what
> you're doing, even if you don't. Act like you're a professional and you're
> more likely to be treated as one. Stuff I already knew, of course, but
> sometimes you have to be reminded of these things. So I decided to apply
> this professional advice to my personal life, and so far I think it's
> working.

My tkd instructor told me this story about this interview that he went
for... when they asked him where he saw himself in a year, he said he saw
himself in the interviewer's chair... and that's why they hired him :)

--
- k i t z -
"Get up and fight you lopsided bag of hay!" -Lion
"Don't leave me alone! Don't go where I can't follow!" -Sam
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com

Wolfin

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Aug 31, 2002, 1:11:42 PM8/31/02
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"pumpkin_head" <pumpkin_h...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Unfortunatly, you also have to take into consideration the lighting where
you are at....

Dale Greer

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Aug 31, 2002, 2:54:16 PM8/31/02
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"Hotep" <spamno...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Both of these scenarios had occurred to me. I'm mean, caulfield might be
right, that she could be a bit inept socially, or a little too nervous to do
the typical flirtation stuff. Or, as a variation on Hotep's idea, she could
be some kind of serial killer who preys on older men as a way of getting
back at her evil father. Or should could really be a succubus?

Dale Greer

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Aug 31, 2002, 3:13:46 PM8/31/02
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"grasshopper" <grass...@grassyspot.com> wrote in message
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>
> Dale Greer <dmg...@nspm.airmail.net> wrote in message
> news:FCD22DD8526B7B2D.3FB83247...@lp.airnews.net...
[...]

> > Usually when someone is attracted to you, their
> > eyes kind of flash when they make contact with yours, and then their
> eyelids
> > might blink lightly. Also, a woman will break off contact by looking
down
> > possibly with a slight smile.
>
> Sounds to me like you know what to expect pretty well :)

All I know is what I learned in kindergarten.

> >This girl just looks into my eyes, no
> > expression, I can't figure out what it means.
>
> Sounds to me as though she might be afraid of men in general, and she sees
> you as a predator rather than a potential friend. I don't know what she's
> thinking, but that's what it sounds like to me.

This is what I'm accustomed to thinking, as are many shy men, I think. But
this girl doesn't appear to be nervous at all. In fact, I was the one who
broke off contact. Someone once said that if two people look each other in
the eyes for more than 6 seconds, they're either going to kill each other or
make love. I got up to 3 or 4 seconds before breaking off, and still she
maintained her expressionless gaze. Maybe I don't want to meet her!

> Maybe you look like
> somebody to her. She might actually just be interested though, and be a
> rather reactionless person. Who can really say?

Can't say until I find out. Now that I'm determined to do so, I'll probably
never see her again.

> > Pretending to be self-confident is almost as good as having true
> > self-confidence.
>
> I read somewhere that courage is the art of being the only one who knows
> you're scared to death. Earl Wilson said that.

I'll remember that quote.

> I got the idea after reading about how to write a query
> > letter to a publisher in this year's Writer's Market. I've never had
> > anything published for money, so my query letter was self-deprecating
and
> > tentative, but the article said don't be that way. Act like you know
what
> > you're doing, even if you don't. Act like you're a professional and
you're
> > more likely to be treated as one. Stuff I already knew, of course, but
> > sometimes you have to be reminded of these things. So I decided to apply
> > this professional advice to my personal life, and so far I think it's
> > working.
>
> My tkd instructor told me this story about this interview that he went
> for... when they asked him where he saw himself in a year, he said he saw
> himself in the interviewer's chair... and that's why they hired him :)

Cool!

pumpkin_head

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Aug 31, 2002, 9:23:39 PM8/31/02
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> > > Usually when someone is attracted to you, their
> > > eyes kind of flash when they make contact with yours, and then their
> > eyelids
> > > might blink lightly. Also, a woman will break off contact by looking
> down
> > > possibly with a slight smile.
> >
> > Sounds to me like you know what to expect pretty well :)
>
> All I know is what I learned in kindergarten.
>

What?! How come I was never taught this?

But seriously I think this is bullshit.

There's a girl I work with. She will sometimes make eye contact with me
then she will look down. It's as if she looks down in an attempt to hide a
smile or maybe that's just what I like to think. We hardly ever talk to
eachother. This girl has also said, in the staff room at least 2 times in
the past whilst talking to other employees, "oh, there is no one who works
here who I would shag. They're all mingers!" or something like that. This
is when I was in the room at the same time. The cheek of it. So I think
it's quite clear that she thinks I'm a minger.


grasshopper

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:15:36 PM8/31/02
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pumpkin_head <pumpkin_h...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> There's a girl I work with. She will sometimes make eye contact with me
> then she will look down. It's as if she looks down in an attempt to hide
a
> smile or maybe that's just what I like to think. We hardly ever talk to
> eachother. This girl has also said, in the staff room at least 2 times in
> the past whilst talking to other employees, "oh, there is no one who works
> here who I would shag. They're all mingers!" or something like that.
This
> is when I was in the room at the same time. The cheek of it. So I think
> it's quite clear that she thinks I'm a minger.

I once said "every guy I know that's cute is of an inappropriate age to
date" to the person I had a huge crush on just to get his reaction.

She might be sounding you out.

Women rarely say point-blank what they mean and remember that there are LOTS
of shittests.

Wolfin

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:33:19 PM8/31/02
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"grasshopper" <grass...@grassyspot.com> wrote in message
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|
| pumpkin_head <pumpkin_h...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:DVdc9.3141$CF4.126898@newsfep2-gui...
| > There's a girl I work with. She will sometimes make eye contact with me
| > then she will look down. It's as if she looks down in an attempt to
hide
| a
| > smile or maybe that's just what I like to think. We hardly ever talk to
| > eachother. This girl has also said, in the staff room at least 2 times
in
| > the past whilst talking to other employees, "oh, there is no one who
works
| > here who I would shag. They're all mingers!" or something like that.
| This
| > is when I was in the room at the same time. The cheek of it. So I
think
| > it's quite clear that she thinks I'm a minger.
|
| I once said "every guy I know that's cute is of an inappropriate age to
| date" to the person I had a huge crush on just to get his reaction.
|
| She might be sounding you out.
|
| Women rarely say point-blank what they mean and remember that there are
LOTS
| of shittests.
|
| --
| - k i t z -

Enlighten us, oh wise one :)

grasshopper

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:43:25 PM8/31/02
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Wolfin <wol...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Enlighten us, oh wise one :)

Hehehe... if I remember anything specific that will not get me stoned to
death by the whole of womankind, I'll let you know ;)

--
- k i t z -

"Resolve to keep happy, and your joy and you shall
form an invincible host against difficulties." -Helen Keller
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com


EM

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:48:20 PM8/31/02
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"Dale Greer" <dmg...@nspm.airmail.net> wrote in message news:<0358FE2034DE2060.1C69BED0...@lp.airnews.net>...

>
> This is what I'm accustomed to thinking, as are many shy men, I think. But
> this girl doesn't appear to be nervous at all. In fact, I was the one who
> broke off contact. Someone once said that if two people look each other in
> the eyes for more than 6 seconds, they're either going to kill each other or
> make love. I got up to 3 or 4 seconds before breaking off, and still she
> maintained her expressionless gaze.

Maybe it's her blood sugar dropping & she just needs to eat. ;)
[that's what I'm like when that happens] Give her some protein. But
don't ask her if she'd like some 'liquid protein.' That's being a
little too forward!

EM

Wolfin

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:54:31 PM8/31/02
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"grasshopper" <grass...@grassyspot.com> wrote in message
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/me bows and thanks, oh wise one :)

Wolfin

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:55:23 PM8/31/02
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"EM" <express_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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but how about a protein shake maybe?

William Parker

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:51:33 PM8/31/02
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express_...@yahoo.com (EM) wrote in
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Unless you happen to be on public transportation at the time?:)

William Parker

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"Wolfin" <wol...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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The "protein shake" is something you see done in a men's restroom.

EM

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wlparker-...@sympatico.ca (William Parker) wrote in message news:<Xns927BE8F454901w...@207.35.177.135>...

LOLOL!! you've been reading my other posts. :) Well, on public
transportation, there is a small amount of conversation first, before
liquid protein is mentioned. ;)

EM

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