GABA
Quiet Neighbor
I'm taking so many pills per day it is hard to know which pill is doing
what.
However, things feel smooth.
If I had become a normalo, sedated by unneeded neuroleptics, would I
recognize it?
I can have moments of abnormality, but only after some coffee, it seems.
So far.
I'll be out-of-town starting Saturday for several days.
I was just watching "Wired Science." A scientist just said that after
straining their seawater samples they found 10,000,000 viruses per
milliliter.
corys...@gmail.com
Let us know how the GABA goes. I'm interested to see how more people
respond to it.
~Cory
Miki Kocic
<corys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I investigated GABA at a health food store today but the smallest bottle was
$20, so I decided not to buy it for the time being.
Miki
Miguel Lahunkun
brain from outside the brain. If you felt better with a GABA pill it was
your faith that made you feel better, not the pill. That is called the
"placebo" effect in medicine.
Campral (acamprosate) is a glutamate blocker like our natural GABA,
but, also Neurontin (gabapentin) helps our natural GABA block glutamate
for us. It feels real good.
Those who sell GABA are crooks. They are ripping the people off.
Gero Vita was selling it. Geo Vita descended from Dr. Anna Aslan's
"Aslan Vital" which she concocted in the laboratories of her Geriatric
Cure Centers in Romania. It contained procaine, which is a MAO inhibitor
like cocaine. It made some old folks feel real young.
When I saw her in Tushnad, (Transylvania) Romania she was using
some real honest and effectual "geriatric cure" remedies, what Dr.
Wilhelm Reich called "orgone". It was simply globally bent timespace
rather than a substance, and you can bend timespace globally by
increasing polarity cancellation rate. See the posts of "lahunken" in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alchemy61/ starting with post # 1, for
more information.
rainbowguardian
"Miguel Lahunkun" <gell...@webtv.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> GABA can't pass the blood brain barrier. It can't get into the
> brain from outside the brain. If you felt better with a GABA pill it was
> your faith that made you feel better, not the pill. That is called the
> "placebo" effect in medicine.
Here you are definetly wrong, i felt a heavy tranquilizing effect like on
Benzos!!!!
rainbowguardian
"rainbowguardian" <robert_...@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>
> "Miguel Lahunkun" <gell...@webtv.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:1142-476...@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
>> GABA can't pass the blood brain barrier. It can't get into the
>> brain from outside the brain. If you felt better with a GABA pill it was
>> your faith that made you feel better, not the pill. That is called the
>> "placebo" effect in medicine.
>
> Here you are definetly wrong, i felt a heavy tranquilizing effect like on
> Benzos!!!!
>
I don愒 think it愀 a placebo 惡ause my pdoc acknowledged that it has a
effect on me.
rainbowguardian
>
> "rainbowguardian" <robert_...@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:5t1u41F...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Miguel Lahunkun" <gell...@webtv.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:1142-476...@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
>>> GABA can't pass the blood brain barrier. It can't get into the
>>> brain from outside the brain. If you felt better with a GABA pill it was
>>> your faith that made you feel better, not the pill. That is called the
>>> "placebo" effect in medicine.
>>
>> Here you are definetly wrong, i felt a heavy tranquilizing effect like on
>> Benzos!!!!
>>
>
> I don愒 think it愀 a placebo 惡ause my pdoc acknowledged that it has a
> effect on me.
She literally said that it would interfere with my current medication!
rainbowguardian
rainbowguardian
"Miguel Lahunkun" <gell...@webtv.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> brain from outside the brain. If you felt better with a GABA pill it was
> your faith that made you feel better, not the pill. That is called the
> "placebo" effect in medicine.
> Campral (acamprosate) is a glutamate blocker like our natural GABA,
> but, also Neurontin (gabapentin) helps our natural GABA block glutamate
> for us. It feels real good.
My pdoc won´t prescribe me these meds, but she allowed the GABA.
Deep Thoughts
of inositol added are distinctly better.
I wasn't taking it for some days because I was having various relational
problems and this effected my concern over myself.
Thankfully this "disturbance" has become more easy to manage.
I don't like being upset.
Anyway last couple days I'v been eating onely one 200 mg cap with the
high dose of inositol and it certainly seems to promote clear thinking
for me and lowering of anxiety.
I had been taking maybe 1250 mgs a day.
That might be overkill.
I saw GABA with no inositol at GNC.
Puritans pride sells the GABA Complex of Inositol and GABA and niacin.
I'm eating the poritan's pride version.
TwinLab also has a GABA Plus which brings the inositol high dose along
as well.
The TwinLab is my back-up bottle.
If its a placebo effect its a very good effect.
The bottle says take two with each meal thats 200 mgs.
I usually only ate one a day because the mental stillness it gives me is
PLENTY comfortable. At first.
I was running around getting things done, which is exceptional for me,
yet I could sit down and relax my mind easily.
Doing things, like dishes, often increases my anxity until I have to sto
and go do somethin else.
GABA Complex works for that.
Being as I have just started taking a tiny dose after a lay off I'm not
getting things done so well....not yet...but already I feel and see
improvement.
Personally, I found the effect to be so apparent that I wouldn't even
consider Cory's suggestion to take 500mg.
So go slow, thats my advice.
Learn the effects first.
I was taking it at the recommended dose before I had my relational
difficulties which altered my world vision, my "issues", a little bit.
I believe I read somewhere that the inositol or the niacin helps the
GABA cross the blood brain barrier.
For me, the 750 mg of GNC pure GABA has less effect.
Its lkely not as soothing as the Complex.
I'm glad I explored GABA.
I expect it to help my emotional recovery from my recent relational
difficulties.
ooopszzzz....made a too long post.
Try it why not.
Dan
Deep Thoughts
Serving size: 2 caps provides 200 mgs with the inositol at 6000 mgs.
NEVER have I seen that large a dose of inositol.
It was purchased from an established vendor who had a booth at an indoor
flea market. Everything she sold was new and it looked reputable enough.
Its ten o'clock a.m. and I have my shoes on, cooking some breakfast and
planning to do the neighborhood laundromat for a load before Christmas.
The above was impossible before GABA complex.
Nor was it possible during my time of recent "stress".
Also....it stipped my taking my suppliments. I couldn't figure out why
to take them.
I was in a bad "place".
Hopefully, my bad times are past (passed?).
SBK
Quiet Neighbor
"Miguel Lahunkun" <gell...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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You could be right about the placebo effect. I'll have to Google on whether
GABA passes the blood brain barrier.
Some things take 6 weeks to slowly cross the blood brain barrier.
What do you think about the N-Acetyl-Cyscteine? That has two studies
backing it.
corys...@gmail.com
but for some reason it still has the effect on our bodies and our
minds. Maybe our blood brain barrier doesn't do it's job properly?
Maybe GABA can actually cross in small doses? Maybe GABA gets
metabolized into something else that is capable of crossing? Maybe it
binds with niacin and is able to cross that way? Who knows? But it
definitely works! It works for me and my friends and my girlfriend and
it has worked for others on this board. So the general conclusion is
that yes, GABA supplements DO work even though scientists say that
technically they shouldn't work for some reason.
There is something called Picamilon which is GABA bound to Niacin and
it helps relax me a little. I suggest trying Picamilon as well. It
would be different than taking GABA and Niacin in the same pill
because with Picamilon they are chemically and molecularly bonded
together and are definitely able to cross the blood brain barrier.
I have N-Acetyl-Cyscteine (NAC) too! I got it after reading that it
helps stabilize glutamate and dopamine in patients who are given
cocaine.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2549169.stm
It is mainly taken as a strong anti-oxidant. It helps me relax as
well. I take it in the evening when I want to fall asleep and it helps
relieve stress. It could be worth trying.
Overall my experience has been that GABA helps stabilize my brain and
helps me relax and sleep better at night. I'm very glad I found GABA.
For me it works almost as well as the benzos (valium, xanax). I've
also been taking Soma in 175mg doses. It's a muscle relaxer and works
great for relieving stress. Seriously, if you want to relieve stress,
Soma is the best thing in the world. But you can't take too much of it
and it's not good to take it every day. Maybe only once or twice a
week.
~Cory
Miguel Lahunkun
barrier, it did NOTHING for me.
In contrast, Neurontin WORKED, and Campral WORKED,
Health stores also rip you off with various kinds of, for example,
fish complexes, etc., that are specific protein complexes, BUT, your
digestive juices break them down into amino acids so that you just as
well have had a Big Mack than one of those tastless, expensive pills,
which do nothing for you.
Rather, there are ways to weaken the blood/brain barrier and
conditions that do weaken the blood brain barrer so that an oral dose of
GABA might work. But, then again, the digestive juices might tear it
down into simpler molecules, which isn't GABA anymore, and is therefore
useless.
Digestive juices don't destroy Neurontin or Campral, they might
destroy GABA, but I know for sure that they do destroy those fish
comlexes, and other such expensive "organic" conglomerates.
All the major businesses, who used to be morally inspired by
Judeo-Christianity to be righteous, upstanding, and moral, with the
public death of faith in God, have all become dishonest liers and
crooks. You can't trust anybody!