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Char...@alt.support.non-smokers.moderated

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Jul 23, 2007, 6:39:39 PM7/23/07
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United States. The presence of British wiretappers at the
: * keyboards of American eavesdropping computers is a closely guarded
: * secret, one that very few people in the intelligence community have
: * been aware of, but it is true.
: *
: * An American historian, David Kahn, first stumbled onto a corner of
: * the British connection in 1966, while writing his book The Codebreakers.
: *
: * One indication of just how sensitive this information is considered on
: * both sides of the Atlantic is the fact that Kahn's publishers in New
: * York and London were put under enormous pressure to censor a great deal
: * of the book. In the main, Kahn simply revealed the existence of the
: * liaison relationship, but when he wrote that the NSA and its British
: * equivalent, the Government Communications Headquarters, "exchange
: * personnel on a temporary basis", he had come too close to revealing
: * the truth.
: *
: * The U.S. government told Kahn to hide the existence of British
: * electronic spies from the American public. Kahn eventually agreed
: * to delete a few of the most sensitive paragraphs describing the
: * exchange of codes, techniques, and personnel with the British
: * government
: *
: * His innocuous few sentences threatened to disclose a larger truth.
: *
: * By the 1960s the "temporary" British personnel at Fort Meade had
: * become a permanent fixture. The British enjoyed continued access
: * to the greatest listening post in the world.
:


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J...@alt.support.non-smokers.moderated

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Jul 23, 2007, 7:45:54 PM7/23/07
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and return address on the letter.

* "Teen Sues FBI, Wants FBI File Purged", NYT, 11/12/89
*
* Todd Patterson, 17, became the object of an FBI investigation when he
* wrote to foreign governments as part of a sixth-grade project. He says
* he is interested in a Foreign Service career and worries about the
* effect the FBI files might have on his chances of obtaining security
* clearances. [snip]
*
* The Pattersons said that they began hearing interference on their
* telephone, including voices, after the visit by the FBI agent and that
* about 50 pieces of mail Todd received from foreign governments from 1983
* to 1988 showed signs of tampering.
*
* But a Justice Department lawyer told the court, "Just because they heard
* funny noises on their telephone and some foreign mail was damaged doesn't
* mean we should start rummaging through agency files and asking if there
* was a wiretap.

The FBI insists on keeping a file ("but we 'closed' it") on him even
though they should have seen he was not a threat to national security.

Fear, loathing, hysteria, and spying on our reading habits:

The FBI also had their counter-intelligence unit start a "Library Aw


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Bla...@alt.support.non-smokers.moderated

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Jul 23, 2007, 9:07:26 PM7/23/07
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Cryptography Manifesto.


----
---- Here comes a large 'reasoned polemic':
----


This is a U.S.-centric message, but keep reading even if you are not in the
U.S.; British, Canadian, Australian and New Zealand citizens are also directly
affected.

This message is about ECHELON, which is an unbelievably huge world-wide
spying apparatus, including the domestic phone calls of many countries.

United States citizens' phone calls are being monitored in a dragnet
fashion not even George Orwell could have imagined.

This was all paid for by U.S. taxpayers.

Built in secret. Not debated.

The CALEA legislation is a shameful takes-us-into-the-abyss domestic spy bill.
It is for the FBI to simultaneously monitor HUGE amounts of our phone calls.

And when the judiciary found out about NSA monitoring U.S. citizens'
overseas telephone calls without a warrant: they approved the loss
of our Fourth Amendment rights.

Giving Presidential Directives the same force of law as the Constitution.

Congress has lost it too.

* The New York Times, undated
*
* The House is not expected to vote on the search-and-seizure bill until
* at least Wednesday. But tonight the Republicans defeated a Democratic
* amendment that SIMPLY REITERATED THE WORDS OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT OF
* THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
*
*


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Sha...@alt.support.non-smokers.moderated

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Jul 23, 2007, 10:10:40 PM7/23/07
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's a good ol' boy.

My apolitical reasons for saying Janet Reno's decision to move against
Waco the way they did was reckless endangerment of life, entirely from
C-SPAN testimony:

o pumped in CS tear gas, which the US has signed a chemical weapons
treaty not to use against countries we go to war against. They were
aware of the indoor lethal capabilities of C.S. gas, because these
were spelled out in the manual.

o pumped in an extra heavy amount of it due to OUTSIDE winds.

o Reno had NO reliable data from her FBI-referred military
expert on the affects of the gas on children or the elderly,
yet proceeded.

o turned off the electricity, and knew they were using candles
as a result. The F.B.I. and the A.T.F. were fully aware that
the Davidians were using kerosene lanterns inside the compound
both day and night. They knew this because they had infrared
surveillance equipment in the air and on the ground at the complex,
and because of microphones they embedded in the building.

o pumped the highly flammable CS gas for five freakin' hours.

o expert testimony said if the candles ignited the
CS gas: "The air would catch fire".

o Janet Reno testified they COULD NOT FIGURE OUT a way to pump in
fire-retardant gas, even though they work


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Fred...@alt.support.non-smokers.moderated

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Jul 23, 2007, 9:36:25 PM7/23/07
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years.
#
# What kind of society are we hoping to create by this policy of wholesale
# incarceration? What will these millions of branded people, most of them
# unskilled, uneducated, and brutalized by imprisonment, be prepared to do
# when they emerge after many years?


This section is also about abusing citizens to control targeted individuals.
Examples are scattered throughout. Here come some now...


* "1984", author George Orwell, 1949, ISBN 0-679-41739-7
*
* Something crashed onto the bed behind Winston's back. The head of a
* ladder had been thrust through the window and had burst the frame.
* Someone was climbing through the window. There was a stampede of
* boots up the stairs.
*
* The room was full of solid men in black uniforms, with iron-shod
* boots on their feet and truncheons in their hands.
*
* There was another crash. Someone had picked up the glass paperweight
* from the table and smashed it to pieces on the hearth-stone.

: On May 23, 1994, the BATF and the IRS "searched" the Lamplugh home.
: All firearms were drawn. An M-P5 machine gun was stuck in Harry's face.
: They did not announce who they were or why they were there, and no search
: warrants were displayed. "When I asked if they had a s


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Alb...@alt.support.non-smokers.moderated

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Jul 23, 2007, 9:07:24 PM7/23/07
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Microsystems:

"An essential element of freedom is the right to privacy, a right that
cannot be expected to stand against an unremitting technological attack."

One cannot come up with a more 'unremitting technological attack'
than what is happening now.

That's worth saying again:

A more 'unremitting technological attack' could not be described!


******************************************************************************


Cybernetic control of society
---------- ------- -- -------

You are about to encounter the true use of the 'cyber' prefix.

Cybernetics is a cross-disciplinary science. The name was coined by
Norbert Wiener [pron. whiner], who was a professor of mathematics at
MIT, and did radar and firing-feedback mechanisms for the U.S. in
World War II. Cybernetics describes the complex of sciences dealing
with communication and control in the living organism AND in the
machine. Its application is sometimes called operations research.

I personally rank Norbert Wiener above Albert Einstein.

Operations research is a difficult discipline --- I certainly don't understand
it --- but when it was desperately needed during World War II, the U.S. Dept.


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