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susan

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Aug 17, 2000, 12:06:31 AM8/17/00
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Talisker, champagne, scotch, etc. are bubbling into glasses as I type. I will
not be able to join in until I finish and take my #$%$@ real estate final on
Monday night. So far I have actually looked at some notes, reviewed a few
things in the book, tried a couple of the dratted math problems, and ...
vacuumed the first floor, pulled together all the scraps on my desk and mailed
them with brief notes to friends and family, shopped for unneeded furniture,
watered the plants on the deck, pondered the wonders of life on the deck,
checked ASM continually and talked to Karen - she is alive and well - over
there, on the back of that pickup truck.

back to the math problems: if a house is currently selling for $850000 and the
origination fee is 1% of the loan amount, but the buyer doesn't want it until
November, how many bedrooms does it have?

Well, maybe I've got time for just one glass of wine while I ponder that one!
;)
susan, proprietress of the Whine 'n Woeses

c lindau

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Aug 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/17/00
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susan wrote:

Good luck on the test, Susan.Ps--the answer is: not enough.

Cindy

Cathy Friedmann

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Aug 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/17/00
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If it's selling for $850,000, it better have a LOT of bedrooms! <g> And
baths. And a library - leading out to a flagged patio w/ beautiful garden
beyond, & an office. ;-)

Now, I think I'll take one of your wonderful drinks, ignoring the fact that
it's not even noon yet - any one sounds good. Will toast to good result on
your final. :-)

Cathy

--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")

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Pat Kight

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Aug 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/17/00
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susan wrote:
>
> Talisker, champagne, scotch, etc. are bubbling into glasses as I type. I will
> not be able to join in until I finish and take my #$%$@ real estate final on
> Monday night.

A whole weekend to study -- you'll do just fine.

> back to the math problems: if a house is currently selling for $850000 and the
> origination fee is 1% of the loan amount, but the buyer doesn't want it until
> November, how many bedrooms does it have?

Not enough?

> Well, maybe I've got time for just one glass of wine while I ponder that one!

Atta girl!

--Pat Kight
kig...@peak.org

Frederica

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Aug 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/17/00
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In article <20000817000631...@ng-ci1.aol.com>,
whinen...@aol.complex (susan ) wrote:

>
> back to the math problems: if a house is currently selling for $850000 and the
> origination fee is 1% of the loan amount, but the buyer doesn't want it until
> November, how many bedrooms does it have?


I don't know, but the train left Cleveland at 3:45pm.

And as to the whole drinking before noon issue, it's always the cocktail
hour somewhere in the world. Double olives, please.

Oh, speaking of which, last weekend I purchased the MOST beautiful
French Art Deco bar! It's an elegant little thing with neat tchotchkes
for my cocktail shakers and glasses; I feel like I should glide up to it
wearing an expensive number I just picked up from Fortuny and offer
William Powell another martini.

Good luck on the exam, Susan.

Frederica


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Before you buy.

Jackiejj(nospam)@mindspring.com

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Aug 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/17/00
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>
> If it it takes one woman nine months to have a baby, how long will it
> take three women?
>
> --
> Chris Malcolm

Gee, Chris--what's the answer?

I never was good at "story problems."

: ) Jackie

Cathy Friedmann

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Aug 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/17/00
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Frederica <missme...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <20000817000631...@ng-ci1.aol.com>,
> whinen...@aol.complex (susan ) wrote:
>
> >
> > back to the math problems: if a house is currently selling for $850000
and the
> > origination fee is 1% of the loan amount, but the buyer doesn't want it
until
> > November, how many bedrooms does it have?
>
>
> I don't know, but the train left Cleveland at 3:45pm.

I was thinking of those old dreaded train problems, too!<g>

Cathy

--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")


>

Jackiejj(nospam)@mindspring.com

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"Karen Kay" <ka...@wordwrite.com> wrote in message
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> Frederica <missme...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Oh, speaking of which, last weekend I purchased the MOST beautiful
> > French Art Deco bar! It's an elegant little thing with neat tchotchkes
> > for my cocktail shakers and glasses; I feel like I should glide up to it
> > wearing an expensive number I just picked up from Fortuny and offer
> > William Powell another martini.
>
> We saw one like that a few weeks ago.
>
> I want an art deco house.
>
> Karen

Yes! I saw in The Museum Shop the neatest blue-mirrored radios, reproduced
from the art deco period. Very fun. A fine goal, Karen, for your future
house. Jackie ps: I suppose I missed your post: are you home now? I hope all
is well with you.

gs

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Aug 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/17/00
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"Karen Kay" <ka...@wordwrite.com> wrote in message
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> Home? Nope, I'm in a hotel in Austin, till my stuff arrives on the 24th.
>
> Karen

Hopefully, this will give you a chance to relax and recuperate from packing,
tooth problems, lack of sleep and the heat.
Gwen

Pat Kight

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Aug 18, 2000, 1:43:23 AM8/18/00
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In article <8nhqkp$55d$1...@samba.rahul.net>,

Karen Kay <ka...@wordwrite.com> wrote:
>Frederica <missme...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Oh, speaking of which, last weekend I purchased the MOST beautiful
>> French Art Deco bar! It's an elegant little thing with neat tchotchkes
>> for my cocktail shakers and glasses; I feel like I should glide up to it
>> wearing an expensive number I just picked up from Fortuny and offer
>> William Powell another martini.
>
>We saw one like that a few weeks ago.
>
>I want an art deco house.

Oh, go for it!

Actually, any 1920s-30s era house could be art deco, with the right
accoutrements. For instance, I have a wonderful Deco-style Sears Roebuck
armoire, circa 1925, that I picked up for a song at a local antique shop.

I lust after Frederica's bar, though...
'
--Pat Kight
kig...@peak.org

Frederica

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Aug 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/18/00
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In article <8niidr$cab$1...@news.NERO.NET>,


I have an art deco apartment. It was built in 1924 and is in the section
of Los Angeles that was just the cat's meow during the 20s. I have high
ceilings and chicken-wire tile floors in the bathroom and this odd alcove
that they think may have originally housed a Murphy bed, but which
currently works beautifully to hold my bookshelves. We've even got
several Norma Desmond wannabes floating around in the lobby. I've been
slowly collecting art deco stuff--the good pieces are *wildly* expensive.
Fortunately for me, I prefer the American art deco to the French--it's
not quite as expensive, but it still ain't cheap. But my bar is wayyyy
pretty.

c lindau

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Aug 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/18/00
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Frederica wrote:

> In article <20000817000631...@ng-ci1.aol.com>,
> whinen...@aol.complex (susan ) wrote:
>
> >

> > back to the math problems: if a house is currently selling for $850000 and the
> > origination fee is 1% of the loan amount, but the buyer doesn't want it until
> > November, how many bedrooms does it have?
>

> I don't know, but the train left Cleveland at 3:45pm.
>

> And as to the whole drinking before noon issue, it's always the cocktail
> hour somewhere in the world. Double olives, please.
>

> Oh, speaking of which, last weekend I purchased the MOST beautiful
> French Art Deco bar! It's an elegant little thing with neat tchotchkes
> for my cocktail shakers and glasses; I feel like I should glide up to it
> wearing an expensive number I just picked up from Fortuny and offer
> William Powell another martini.

No time today to offer any words of substance or support, but: *William Powell!!!!*
<swoons>

Cindy

>
>
> Good luck on the exam, Susan.
>

Pat Kight

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Aug 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/18/00
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Frederica wrote:

> I have an art deco apartment. It was built in 1924 and is in the section
> of Los Angeles that was just the cat's meow during the 20s. I have high
> ceilings and chicken-wire tile floors in the bathroom and this odd alcove
> that they think may have originally housed a Murphy bed, but which
> currently works beautifully to hold my bookshelves. We've even got
> several Norma Desmond wannabes floating around in the lobby. I've been
> slowly collecting art deco stuff--the good pieces are *wildly* expensive.
> Fortunately for me, I prefer the American art deco to the French--it's
> not quite as expensive, but it still ain't cheap. But my bar is wayyyy
> pretty.

Wow, this sounds splendid. I've had deco tendencies myself (thus the
armoire), but my "decorating style" could best be classified as
eclectic. Or maybe "junkyard chic." (-;

Speaking of Norma Desmond, I have a late '20s dressing gown in hammered
turquouise satin with kimono sleeves and tuxedo lapels that sound like
it was made for your apartment ...

--Pat Kight
kig...@peak.org

Frederica

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Aug 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/18/00
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In article <399D5926...@ucs.orst.edu>,


(GASP!!) With a turban and a foot-long, Freudian cigarette holder I
could slink around doing an incredible Natacha Rambova impersonation!! I
could even put a jeweled collar on the Orange Wonder! (Yeah, he'd go for
that big time. Let's see how quickly he could turn me into a little pile
of California rolls.) Now if I could just find a good Prussian
chauffeur...so hard to get good help these days...

gs

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"Frederica" <missme...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Sounds so glamorous! I found myself daydreaming while reading these
delightful posts! I actually can *see* it all!

Gwen
I feel so calm and relaxed now!

Pat Kight

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Aug 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/18/00
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Frederica wrote:
>
> In article <399D5926...@ucs.orst.edu>,
> kig...@peak.org wrote:
> > Frederica wrote:
> >
> > > I have an art deco apartment. It was built in 1924 and is in the section
> > > of Los Angeles that was just the cat's meow during the 20s. I have high
> > > ceilings and chicken-wire tile floors in the bathroom and this odd alcove
> > > that they think may have originally housed a Murphy bed, but which
> > > currently works beautifully to hold my bookshelves. We've even got
> > > several Norma Desmond wannabes floating around in the lobby. I've been
> > > slowly collecting art deco stuff--the good pieces are *wildly* expensive.
> > > Fortunately for me, I prefer the American art deco to the French--it's
> > > not quite as expensive, but it still ain't cheap. But my bar is wayyyy
> > > pretty.
> >
> > Wow, this sounds splendid. I've had deco tendencies myself (thus the
> > armoire), but my "decorating style" could best be classified as
> > eclectic. Or maybe "junkyard chic." (-;
> >
> > Speaking of Norma Desmond, I have a late '20s dressing gown in hammered
> > turquouise satin with kimono sleeves and tuxedo lapels that sound like
> > it was made for your apartment ...
> >
> > --Pat Kight
> > kig...@peak.org
>
> (GASP!!) With a turban and a foot-long, Freudian cigarette holder I
> could slink around doing an incredible Natacha Rambova impersonation!!

A towel makes a pretty fair turban, you know. And I've got one of those
cigarette holders somewhere, too (one of the many perks of being
involved in theater - sometimes you get to keep your props.)

I'll give a holler next time I'm in the LA area - maybe we can play
dressup. (-;

--Pat Kight
kig...@peak.org

Frederica

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Aug 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/18/00
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In article <399D85CC...@ucs.orst.edu>,


It's a date. I look forward to it.

Frederica

LABPEOPLE

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Aug 19, 2000, 10:52:50 PM8/19/00
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Ok, I had to look twice at the title of this topic....never did I expect to see
anything about Art Deco in a menopause newsgroup. I think I've found my place
at last. I LOVE deco styles (although I'm more in love with the "moderne"
style, which came after deco but still has some of the flavor of deco.) My
husband and I are currently shopping for one of those adorable PT Cruisers, the
ultimate retro car.

I've been lurking for the past several weeks, and decided to introduce myself:
I'm 48, married, no kids but have a lovable lab named Katie who is my "baby".
I am 16-yrs post-breast cancer, so I cannot take any HRT. I am a claims rep
for SSA. I live in Central California, where it's hot and miserable right now.
I quit smoking about 19 months ago, and would still kill for a smoke
sometimes. For the past 4 yrs, I've been getting chronic migraines.I have
bouts of depression that are really scary. I also have had periodic bouts of
flu-like symptoms and almost constant sweats.I have a period about once every
3-4 months. It probably goes without saying that I have been packing on
pounds like there's no tomorrow. I belong to an HMO where the doctors are
bailing out like crazy, so every time I get a doctor I like to discuss my
health problems, they quit and I have to find someone else. I know that these
symptoms, individually, are no big deal, but put them all together and it's
becoming difficult to keep up with work and the other responsibilities of life.

Does anyone have any suggestions for things I can do to improve my quality of
life? I figure there must be other women out there who can share what they've
learned. I'd love to hear from you, either individually or in the group.
Thanks for your patience with this long, rambling post.

Vicki

Cathy Friedmann

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Aug 20, 2000, 12:33:21 AM8/20/00
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LABPEOPLE <labp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hi - oh, *that* kind of lab - I was thinking along the lines of science. ;-)
Lots of pets people here, too. I'm single & have 3 cats - Debbie, Demelza,
& Herrie.

My house was built in 1920, is virtually all original, & has a few hints of
Art Deco - the bathroom light fixtures, for instance. But there are also
traces of Gothic - in the corner detailing of the baseboards, & Edwardian.
When I had to replace the old, original, pedestal sink in the bathroom, I
had a really difficult time finding a new sink (fwithout spending $1,000!)
that was either Edwardian or Deco, instead of Victorian. Finally, after
much searching, did, though. :-)

I wonder if your flu-like symptoms are what I have experienced as intense
meno symptoms. Hot & cold flashes, ache all over, & feel generally
miserable, but am not technically sick; I can tell it's meno, & even though
I know that's what it is, I still feel rotten when it strikes. I am 3+
years post-meno (since I was 46), but my body seems to be at loose ends, on
2 time lines simultaneously, & doesn't quite recognize that I am post.
During peri, on the first day of my period, I sometimes would also feel
rather flu-like; I would have very little energy & be all-over *very* achy -
but again, was not actually ill. Just *felt* it! There's another thread
about Black Cohosh at the moment; I started taking it the last time I had
super-meno symptoms - back in March, & found that it did actually help; I
was surprised - I didn't really expect it to, but was willing to at least
try, since I felt so crummy. However, since you are a former BC patient, my
guess would be that you wouldn't be advised to take it. I hope someone else
can come up w/ some concrete ideas for you. Your various symptoms sound
familiar, even if they aren't ones I have experienced myself.

Your post just reinforces my thoughts that I'm glad I don't have an HMO! I
teach, & for a while there our BOE was insisting - or trying to - that we
switch over to an HMO, but the teachers' union was adamant about it.

Congrats on quitting smoking, BTW. :-)

Pat Kight

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LABPEOPLE <labp...@aol.com> wrote:
>Ok, I had to look twice at the title of this topic....never did I expect to see
>anything about Art Deco in a menopause newsgroup.

*smile* Think of us as a bunch of menopausal (and perimenopausal) women
sitting around talking about whatever comes to mind, and it will make more
sense. We *try* to tag off-topic posts as OT, but sometimes they mutate
from a perfectly on-topic topic (Dept. of Redundancy Dept.) before anyone
thinks to change the subject line.

It's fun to see what prompts people to delurk here. Welcome to a.s.m.

>I've been lurking for the past several weeks, and decided to introduce myself:
>I'm 48, married, no kids but have a lovable lab named Katie who is my "baby".
>I am 16-yrs post-breast cancer, so I cannot take any HRT.

Congratulations on your recovery! Yes, cancer can complicate one's
decisions about menopause, but be of good cheer: There are many women here
who are not taking HRT, and who have found ways to cope with the more
uncomfortable signs of menopause. And we're pretty good about sharing what
we've learned.

> I am a claims rep
>for SSA. I live in Central California, where it's hot and miserable right now.
> I quit smoking about 19 months ago, and would still kill for a smoke
>sometimes. For the past 4 yrs, I've been getting chronic migraines.I have
>bouts of depression that are really scary. I also have had periodic bouts of
>flu-like symptoms and almost constant sweats.I have a period about once every
>3-4 months. It probably goes without saying that I have been packing on
>pounds like there's no tomorrow. I belong to an HMO where the doctors are
>bailing out like crazy, so every time I get a doctor I like to discuss my
>health problems, they quit and I have to find someone else. I know that these
>symptoms, individually, are no big deal, but put them all together and it's
>becoming difficult to keep up with work and the other responsibilities of life.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions for things I can do to improve my quality of
>life? I figure there must be other women out there who can share what they've
>learned. I'd love to hear from you, either individually or in the group.
>Thanks for your patience with this long, rambling post.

For myself, I find that when the symptoms pile up to the point where I
just feel generically lousy, the most useful thing I can do is tackle one
of them and see what I can do to make myself more comfortable. Otherwise
the effort to "fix" everything at once just seems to overwhelming to
bother with. But I can manage doing one small thing at a time to improve
my quality of life, and often that has spill-over effects that leave me
generally more comfortable and better able to cope.

So far, my own perimenopausal signs -- a long bout of extremely heavy
bleeding, a stint of insomnia, general weight gain, increasingly frequent
hot flashes - have been the sort that respond to modest "treatment"
without resorting to drugs - things like taking naps after work to make up
for the lost sleep, or carrying a folding fan to whip out at the first
sign of a hot flash. We've got a million suggestions of that sort; you can
find lots of them on one of the Web sites maintained by a couple of our
regulars:

http://www.oxford.net/~tishy/beyond.html

Another, at

http://members.tripod.com/menopause/

is a long collection of links to good, non-commercial Web sites with solid
information about the changes you may be going through.

Migraines are a biggie, and I can't offer much help there, because I don't
suffer from them. Others here do, however.

Best wishes,

--Pat Kight
kig...@peak.org

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