Hot Flashes and Sugar
Kim
intake. I'm just turning 50 in the next 6 months and have not eaten sugar
(including honey or sugar substitutes) for about 3 years until recently I
went on a sugar binge for about about 3 days. During that week I
experienced about 20 hot flashes per day and night something I've never had
before. Infact these were my first hot flashes ever. I quit the sugar and
they went away. Coincidence? I'm thinking not. It really makes me want to
stay away from the stuff. Has anyone else here experienced this.
Frankenmel
>Date: 11/5/00 9:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
I am post-meno,and can't remember having this tie-in during meno. However,when
I was in junior high I used to (brace yourself) eat white sugar by the handful
and candy bars and sweated like a hog.
Sharon..*.eat your fruits and veggies and exercise daily*
Pat Kight
>
> I'm just curious if anyone else here has connected hot flashes with sugar
> intake. I'm just turning 50 in the next 6 months and have not eaten sugar
> (including honey or sugar substitutes) for about 3 years until recently I
> went on a sugar binge for about about 3 days. During that week I
> experienced about 20 hot flashes per day and night something I've never had
> before. Infact these were my first hot flashes ever. I quit the sugar and
> they went away. Coincidence? I'm thinking not. It really makes me want to
> stay away from the stuff. Has anyone else here experienced this.
It wouldn't surprise me if a sudden upsurge in intake of sugar (or
anything else) upset one's body chemistry to the point where it
responded with hot flashes. I don't think that's the same as saying
"Sugar causes hot flashes," though.
I've had ... interesting ... reactions to consuming too much red wine,
too much caffeine, and even too much turkey. That doesn't make me want
to stay away from those things, it just reminds me that moderation is a
Good Thing, probably even more so now that our bodies are getting older
and less able to readily process the stuff we put into them.
IMO, it was probably the binge, not the sugar, that caused your
problems.
--Pat Kight
nostalgic for the days when I could eat jalapenos by the handful ...
kig...@peak.org
FurPaw
Pat Kight wrote:
> I've had ... interesting ... reactions to consuming too much red wine,
> too much caffeine, and even too much turkey. That doesn't make me want
> to stay away from those things, it just reminds me that moderation is a
> Good Thing, probably even more so now that our bodies are getting older
> and less able to readily process the stuff we put into them.
So true! One of the reasons I cut down on alcohol consumption in
my 40s was that if I had 'more than enough' to drink, I'd wake up
in the middle of the night soaking wet and burning up. That and
the increasingly unpleasant 'morning after' was enough for me to
say that the buzz the night before just ain't worth it!
FurPaw
MrsMeister
"Moderation in all things".I cannot have any caffeine, even a diet coke will
make me edgy. Ive recently started drinking wine again and found no problems
with white, but one glass of red and I woke up with heart palpitations. Did a
second experiment with it to see if it was a coincidence and it happened again.
And sugar?? Hard to say, Ive tried to cut out completley. No side effects from
the chocolate pretzel binge ,,, I just know I feel better in general if Im not
eating sugar.
Martha
Frankenmel
>Date: 11/6/00 4:39 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Yup, I m not sure if my hot flashes increase, but to quote my mother
>"Moderation in all things".I cannot have any caffeine, even a diet coke will
>make me edgy
Whereas I can guzzle coffee all day (never do anymore though) and sleep through
the night (that is..if I don't have to get up to pee). I sleep incredibly well
in general.
Cathy Friedmann
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<snipped>
I sleep incredibly well
> in general.
>
> Sharon
Ggrrrrrrr.... ;-)
Cathy
--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")
Frankenmel
>Date: 11/6/00 6:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
>I sleep incredibly well
>> in general.
>>
>> Sharon
>
>Ggrrrrrrr.... ;-)
But then I am four years post meno. Also,I think good thoughts and do not allow
myself to worry when I go to bed.
Laura Blanchard
>
>I'm just curious if anyone else here has connected hot flashes with sugar
>intake. I'm just turning 50 in the next 6 months and have not eaten sugar
>(including honey or sugar substitutes) for about 3 years until recently I
>went on a sugar binge for about about 3 days. During that week I
>experienced about 20 hot flashes per day and night something I've never had
>before. Infact these were my first hot flashes ever. I quit the sugar and
>they went away. Coincidence? I'm thinking not. It really makes me want to
>stay away from the stuff. Has anyone else here experienced this.
Having had the occasional low blood sugar attack in my youth, I can attest that
there are some real similarities between them and hot flashes. I can also pass
along the factoid that in an issue of ?Archives of Internal Medicine? from the
1992-94 period, I think, researchers reported that folk who eat a high carb
lunch and then drink coffee in the afternoon may experience "low blood sugar"
symptoms more extreme than their actual blood sugar levels would suggest. So
that's another thing to consider.
Regards,
Laura Blanchard
lblan...@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/lblanch000/
http://menopause.tripod.com (Land o'Links --
click the cormorant for Menopause & Beyond)
barbara trumpinski-roberts
>
> >From: mrsme...@aol.com (MrsMeister)
>
> >Yup, I m not sure if my hot flashes increase, but to quote my mother
> >"Moderation in all things".I cannot have any caffeine, even a diet coke will
> >make me edgy
>
> Whereas I can guzzle coffee all day (never do anymore though) and sleep through
> the night (that is..if I don't have to get up to pee). I sleep incredibly well
> in general.
lucky woman...
i have trouble sleeping whether i do caffeine or not. it is really hard,
as i love my tea...iced or hot.
i dreamed i was in a theme park last night. my arms still hurt from
paddling the canoe on the water ride. (i didn't have any paddles)
hugs,
kitten
/\ /\ 'ah, but you don't have to know everything. you
{=.=} just have to know where to find it.' john brunner
~ kit...@uiuc.edu _shockwave rider_
http://members.tripod.com/~barbarakitten smotu
Frankenmel
>Date: 11/7/00 4:11 AM Pacific Standard Time
>That would be me. But what are "low blood sugar" symptoms? If they're
>sleepiness, and a desperate craving for more coffee and more sugar around
>4:00 p.m., then that would *definitely* be me.
Irritability,shakiness,dizziness,foggy thinking.
Pat Kight
> i have trouble sleeping whether i do caffeine or not. it is really hard,
> as i love my tea...iced or hot.
Hey, if you can't sleep with or without the tea, then I don't see any
reason to stop drinking it!
But that's just self-indulgent old me. And even I stayed up a little too
late last night after killing most of a pot of French Roast at
rehearsal.
> i dreamed i was in a theme park last night. my arms still hurt from
> paddling the canoe on the water ride. (i didn't have any paddles)
*grin* I'm not even going for the obvious metaphor here ...
--Pat Kight
kig...@peak.org
Frankenmel
>Date: 11/7/00 4:22 AM Pacific Standard Time
>i have trouble sleeping whether i do caffeine or not. it is really hard,
>as i love my tea...iced or hot.
Also,kitten,try not eating several hours before bed. I am becoming a total
fanatic on this little tip,as it's made big changes for me.I eat an orange
about an hour before bed so I'm not ravenous,and *that* has helped my
regularity like you wouldn't believe.
Wing Lee
Hot flashes,fatigue and palpitations etc...
The sugar/carb cravings are so hard to resist but the times I've been too
busy to cave into them were also the better months with decreased symptoms.
So much for the sugar manufacturers and their newspaper ads saying there is
no connection between sugar and hyperactivity in kids, and now sugar and hot
flashes in perimenopausal women.
Roseanne
Kim <dle...@uniserve.com> wrote in message
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barbara trumpinski-roberts
> barbara trumpinski-roberts wrote:
> > i have trouble sleeping whether i do caffeine or not. it is really hard,
> > as i love my tea...iced or hot.
>
> reason to stop drinking it!
>
> But that's just self-indulgent old me. And even I stayed up a little too
> late last night after killing most of a pot of French Roast at
> rehearsal.
hon, you know me...when was i ever less than self-indulgent?
> > i dreamed i was in a theme park last night. my arms still hurt from
> > paddling the canoe on the water ride. (i didn't have any paddles)
>
> *grin* I'm not even going for the obvious metaphor here ...
:p
barbara trumpinski-roberts
> >Date: 11/7/00 4:22 AM Pacific Standard Time
> >as i love my tea...iced or hot.
>
> fanatic on this little tip,as it's made big changes for me.I eat an orange
> about an hour before bed so I'm not ravenous,and *that* has helped my
> regularity like you wouldn't believe.
yeah....you are probably right. last night i was playing d&d and ate
exactly 3 mini hershey bars. bad idea....major heartburn.
i have often thought i should develop an interest in BDSM so i could be my
own dom and order myself to do whatever i should be doing...
(should is one of those words i really hate)
hugs,
kitten
Marilee
barbara trumpinski-roberts <kit...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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> >
> yeah....you are probably right. last night i was playing d&d and ate
> exactly 3 mini hershey bars. bad idea....major heartburn.
D&d = Dungeons and Dragons? Down & Dirty? Disgusting & Demented? Damsel &
Dilettante? Drunk & Disorderly?
Marilee
>
Frankenmel
>Date: 11/7/00 10:31 AM Pacific Standard Time
>i have often thought i should develop an interest in BDSM so i could be my
>own dom and order myself to do whatever i should be doing...
8-)
>(should is one of those words i really hate)
Moi aussi.
Frankenmel
>Date: 11/7/00 10:55 AM Pacific Standard Time
New slant...I always thought dungeons and dragons...but with her reference to
BDSM...who knows? 8-)
Pat Kight
> Sometimes it works to think of it in terms of loving yourself. How can
> you express your love for yourself better? By giving you chocolate or
> denying it?
As much as I like this concept, I fear that my own answer would almost
always be, "Give me the chocolate!"
--Pat Kight
kig...@peak.org
barbara trumpinski-roberts
> barbara trumpinski-roberts <kit...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> > i have often thought i should develop an interest in BDSM so i could be my
> > own dom and order myself to do whatever i should be doing...
>
>
> > (should is one of those words i really hate)
>
> you express your love for yourself better? By giving you chocolate or
> denying it?
damn....i hate it when you're sensible :)
barbara trumpinski-roberts
> barbara trumpinski-roberts <kit...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.GSO.4.10.100110...@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu...
> > >
> > yeah....you are probably right. last night i was playing d&d and ate
> > exactly 3 mini hershey bars. bad idea....major heartburn.
>
> D&d = Dungeons and Dragons? Down & Dirty? Disgusting & Demented? Damsel &
> Dilettante? Drunk & Disorderly?
dungeons and dragons....i'm not really a gamer...but on monday nights my
senior husband and my future spice have a date with each other and my
other husband games (with my son and son-in-law among others) so i have
started gaming with him every other week so i don't have to sit home
alone.
the week i don't game i REVEL in sitting home alone.
barbara trumpinski-roberts
> >news:Pine.GSO.4.10.100110...@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu...
> >> >
> >> yeah....you are probably right. last night i was playing d&d and ate
> >> exactly 3 mini hershey bars. bad idea....major heartburn.
> >
> >D&d = Dungeons and Dragons? Down & Dirty? Disgusting & Demented? Damsel &
> >Dilettante? Drunk & Disorderly?
> >
>
> New slant...I always thought dungeons and dragons...but with her reference to
> BDSM...who knows? 8-)
>
HUG!!!!!!!
kitten, giggling and scaring the grad student
Pat Kight
>
> I'm not at all big into denying myself. But if I give myself
> something, I want to do so freely, with full consciousness of the gift
> I am giving. Or is that too Californian?
Maybe - but it's also pretty wise, if you ask me.
--Pat Kight
kig...@peak.org
Cathy Friedmann
Cathy
--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")
Frankenmel <frank...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Kim
After I quit eating sugar 3 years ago, I lost 55 pounds, had tons more
energy, started thinking clearly again for the first time in years, no more
brain fog, anxiety, my joints quit aching, I felt like exercising again, and
haven't had a day of depression since. There was a wonderful calmness in my
life I had never experienced before and it is why it was so easyto say no.
I also got over my addiction to sugar after two weeks and no longer even
craved it. It was like a miracle. When I ate it again for 3 days two weeks
ago, almost all of the symptoms came back, along with the hot flashes. One
of the symptoms I noticed the most was the achiness in my joints similar to
arthritis. It went away a couple of days later after cutting out the sugar
again. Alot of women have the same success when not eating sugar check out
the forum at www.radiantrecovery.com
Kim
"Wing Lee" <win...@netcom.ca> wrote in message
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Kim
> The thing is,until the last 3-4 yrs or so I've never been one to eat
> desserts or enjoy anything sweet.I hated sugary stuff, salty chips and
> Doritoes were my downfall. Now I crave sweets on and off throughout the
> month,particularly before a period.This could easily be blamed on hormonal
> shifts but my husband and other men I know who never ate sweets are also
now
> diving into chocolates and candy.It must be an age thing.
I suspect it may have more to do with lower beta endorphin and seritonin
levels as we age. There have been a number of studies that show that
sucrose cuts physical and emotional pain by evoking the brains own
beta-endorphin. Bet-endorphin is the body's natural painkiller. Its called
an endogenous opioid or internal painkiller. Morphine and heroin are
opiate drugs, which mean they go and sit in the brains beta-endorphin
receptor sites and get the brain to block pain signals. Sucrose acts like
an opioid drug such as morphine or heroin. Not as intensely, but on the
same beta-endorphin system.
If you insert sugar in the place of morphine, we see why some body and brain
types seek it, love it and get addicted to it. Sugar is addicting. A
little bit of it in the morning will make you crave more sugar and processed
carbs the remainder of the day and several days after mostly due to blood
sugar flunctuations. If you try to take it out of your diet your body will
experience major physical withdrawal symptoms during the process, but once
you get over the first week or so, you will notice such a difference you
will never want to return to it. And the more I learn about it the more I
see why the health of North Americans is failing rapidly as we are eating
more and more of the stuff.
Kim
Frankenmel
>Date: 11/7/00 3:38 PM Pacific Standard Time
>I'm 3 years, 11 months post-meno. Ggrrrrrrrrr....
Is it stress of physical,do you think? The reason you can't sleep well,I mean.
Wing Lee
Kim <dle...@uniserve.com> wrote in message
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> Roseanne,
>
> After I quit eating sugar 3 years ago, I lost 55 pounds, had tons more
> energy, started thinking clearly again for the first time in years, no
more
> brain fog, anxiety, my joints quit aching, I felt like exercising again,
and
> haven't had a day of depression since. There was a wonderful calmness in
my
> life I had never experienced before and it is why it was so easyto say no.
> I also got over my addiction to sugar after two weeks and no longer even
> craved it. It was like a miracle. When I ate it again for 3 days two
weeks
> ago, almost all of the symptoms came back, along with the hot flashes.
One
> of the symptoms I noticed the most was the achiness in my joints similar
to
> arthritis. It went away a couple of days later after cutting out the
sugar
> again. Alot of women have the same success when not eating sugar check
out
> the forum at www.radiantrecovery.com
> Kim
>
The thing is,until the last 3-4 yrs or so I've never been one to eat
desserts or enjoy anything sweet.I hated sugary stuff, salty chips and
Doritoes were my downfall. Now I crave sweets on and off throughout the
month,particularly before a period.This could easily be blamed on hormonal
shifts but my husband and other men I know who never ate sweets are also now
diving into chocolates and candy.It must be an age thing.
Roseanne
Frankenmel
>Date: 11/7/00 5:09 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>I'm 3 years, 11 months post-meno. Ggrrrrrrrrr....
>
>Is it stress of physical,do you think?
OR not "of"
Cathy Friedmann
> >From: "Cathy Friedmann" c...@borg.com
> >Date: 11/7/00 3:38 PM Pacific Standard Time
>
> >I'm 3 years, 11 months post-meno. Ggrrrrrrrrr....
>
> Is it stress of physical,do you think? The reason you can't sleep well,I
mean.
Definitely not stress. If it is stress - occasionally, that's due to
specific incidences & easily recognizable. This general insomnia is
definitely physical. It started within a couple of weeks of when my first
hot flashes showed up. Can't remember which showed up first, but they were
both first evident in Feb. '97. I had mild insomnia in peri, but nothing
compared to what later kicked in, post-meno.
Cathy
Frankenmel
>Date: 11/7/00 5:22 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Frankenmel <frank...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
>news:20001107200938...@ng-fi1.aol.com...
>> >From: "Cathy Friedmann" c...@borg.com
>> >Date: 11/7/00 3:38 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>
>> >I'm 3 years, 11 months post-meno. Ggrrrrrrrrr....
>>
>> Is it stress of physical,do you think? The reason you can't sleep well,I
>mean.
>
>Definitely not stress. If it is stress - occasionally, that's due to
>specific incidences & easily recognizable. This general insomnia is
>definitely physical. It started within a couple of weeks of when my first
>hot flashes showed up. Can't remember which showed up first, but they were
>both first evident in Feb. '97. I had mild insomnia in peri, but nothing
>compared to what later kicked in, post-meno.
>
>Cathy
Is your bedroom cool enough? Do you wait until you're tired before going to
bed? Have you thought of one of those white noise machines? meditation? How
about light coming in the window? Noises?
Cathy Friedmann
Frankenmel <frank...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Yep - all of the above, and more - w/ the exception of the "white noise"
machines, since it's quiet. And meditation - can't see myself doing it -
other than thinking of a nice, calm, soothing, restful scene - which I do
employ now & again. (not that it works!) My bedroom is now cooler than
it's ever been; I even keep its heating register/vent shut, even in winter.
Cathy
--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")
..*.eat your fruits and veggies and exercise daily*
Frankenmel
>Date: 11/7/00 8:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Yep - all of the above, and more - w/ the exception of the "white noise"
>machines, since it's quiet. And meditation - can't see myself doing it -
>other than thinking of a nice, calm, soothing, restful scene - which I do
>employ now & again. (not that it works!) My bedroom is now cooler than
>it's ever been; I even keep its heating register/vent shut, even in winter.
>
>Cathy
>
Do you find your mind running when you lie there not sleeping,or can you
imagine something lovely,quiet and peaceful?
Sharon..*.eat your fruits and veggies and exercise daily*
Cathy Friedmann
Frankenmel <frank...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Nope, it's not a problem of my mind running, at all. I just can't get to
sleep. Vastly annoying!
Laura Blanchard
>Alot of women have the same success when not eating sugar check out
>the forum at [url snipped]
Perhaps you can suggest another forum with the same results that isn't
connected with the sale of a book?
Regards,
Laura Blanchard
lblan...@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/lblanch000/
http://menopause.tripod.com (Land o'Links --
click the cormorant for Menopause & Beyond)
susan
>Pat Kight <kig...@ucs.orst.edu> wrote:
>> Karen Kay wrote:
>>> Sometimes it works to think of it in terms of loving yourself. How can
>>> you express your love for yourself better? By giving you chocolate or
>>> denying it?
>
>> always be, "Give me the chocolate!"
>
>it's not. I think it's an important question to consider, and not
>nearly as judgmental as thinking about the dreaded 'shoulds'.
>I'm not at all big into denying myself. But if I give myself
>something, I want to do so freely, with full consciousness of the gift
>I am giving. Or is that too Californian?
>
>
Whoa, Lil'l Lady! In Texas, the grand Lonestar State, the biggest state in the
(whoops, wrong convention)... Anyway, if ya'all want chocolate, ya'all jis go
git sum. No need to be conscious, gal. Sometimes ya jist has to be oblivious.
Ever tried those lit'le chocolate armadillos? I always have some chocolate in
the car just in case I run across one. ;)
suzie-q, the cowbabe <g>
susan, proprietress of the Whine 'n Woeses
susan
>Nope, it's not a problem of my mind running, at all. I just can't get to
>sleep. Vastly annoying!
Have you tried this? - Prepare for bed in the usual way. Lie down in bed on
your back. Get comfortable. Starting with your toes consciously think about and
relax each part of your body. Toes, arches, ankles, calves, knees, thighs, etc.
all the way to your brain if need be.
If your mind starts to wander, pull it back. Picture yourself putting the
distracting thoughts into a file cabinet, closing the drawer and walking out of
the file room. Then back to the toes and relaxing the body.
If nothing else, it gives you something to do while laying there. Might also
picture yourself floating on a rubber raft surrounded by water as far as you
can see. Or envision yourself in the Sleep Tight Chamber at the W&W. ;)
Good night, Cathy. Dreams ...
Cathy Friedmann
warm, but not hot day w/ a very faint breeze. Lots of deciduous shade trees
around, a few squirrels scampering, maybe a boat (sail, canoe, or row) out
on the lake... but although a lovely, peaceful scene, it's never actually
worked, re: falling asleep. Nearly all of the time it's not a case of
needing to clear my brain of thoughts; & I can go to bed plenty tired, but
then simply don't fall asleep for a couple of hours - when I'm lucky. May
try the relaxing the body bit.
Cathy
--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")
susan <whinen...@aol.complex> wrote in message
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Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet
>Thanks, Susan. :-) I do sometimes envision myself next to a lake; it's a
>warm, but not hot day w/ a very faint breeze. Lots of deciduous shade trees
>around, a few squirrels scampering, maybe a boat (sail, canoe, or row) out
>on the lake... but although a lovely, peaceful scene, it's never actually
>worked, re: falling asleep. Nearly all of the time it's not a case of
>needing to clear my brain of thoughts; & I can go to bed plenty tired, but
>then simply don't fall asleep for a couple of hours - when I'm lucky. May
>try the relaxing the body bit.
I hope it works for you, Cathy, but if it doesn't, don't beat yourself
up. I had exactly the kind of insomnia you describe, and I tried all
sorts of standard helpful stuff, and none of it was any use at all.
My body seemed to be on a timer. I'd be wakeful until between four
and six in the morning, period; it didn't matter how tired I was or
how much sleep I'd had the night before. I could have been dropping
with sleepiness at nine in the evening, but *boing*, I'd wake up at
midnight and that was it until four a.m. or so.
The only thing that ever worked for me was two or three sessions a
week of mild weight-bearing exercise; I started, as I trumpeted in the
newsgroup, with two-pound weights, and now am up to a staggering five
(contemplating the move to eight, but this is not necessary to fight
insomnia).
I also think the really serious timer problem went away on its own,
because while I don't sleep nearly so well during a week when we skip
our exercises, I don't have that *boing* stuff and I can still fall
asleep initially, I'm just more restless.
I hope your insomnia gets tired of you soon. I know it's disruptive,
perplexing, and, well, awfully tiring.
--
Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet (pd...@demesne.com)
"I will open my heart to a blank page
and interview the witnesses." John M. Ford, "Shared World"
Cathy Friedmann
problems solved - and this insomnia does appear to be a physical thing -
tied in w/ hormone levels, but it *does* make one realize there are plenty
of people out there in the same boat. Or who have been in the same boat (or
are going to be!<g>). And so one at least feels instantly mentally better.
;-) I did finally quit beating myself up about it a while ago. The only
times I still get *really* irritated over it is when I have to go in to work
on only 2 - 3 hours sleep. Not fun. But it hasn't been happening to that
degree as frequently as it once did. Several months ago, in fact, I
*thought* this insomnia baloney was actually, finally, disappearing - only
to have it return shortly thereafter.
Cathy
--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")
Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet <pd...@gw.dd-b.net> wrote in message
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Frankenmel
>Date: 11/10/00 12:25 PM Pacific Standard Time
re insomnia and Pamela's kind response:>Thanks to you, too, Pamela. :-) This
ng may not get actual physical
>problems solved - and this insomnia does appear to be a physical thing -
>tied in w/ hormone levels, but it *does* make one realize there are plenty
>of people out there in the same boat.
Cathy,just so you don't think I've always been a sound sleeper....I would wake
up at 4 in the morning and not be able to get to sleep until I changed my
habits. We started to go to bed at midnight rather than 10 or so,and now I
sleep very soundly. Part of it seems to be that I don't need as much sleep
anymore. Perhaps it is the blessing of age. I hope you can sleep well soon.
Cathy Friedmann
Cathy
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Frankenmel <frank...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet
>Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet <pd...@gw.dd-b.net> wrote:
>> I hope your insomnia gets tired of you soon.
>I like your phrasing.
*beam*
I did in some odd way feel that mine got fed up with the exercising
and slunk off into the night.
Well, the early dawn, anyway.
Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet
>Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet <pd...@gw.dd-b.net> wrote:
>> Karen Kay <ka...@wordwrite.com> writes:
>>>Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet <pd...@gw.dd-b.net> wrote:
>>>> I hope your insomnia gets tired of you soon.
>>>I like your phrasing.
>> *beam*
>> I did in some odd way feel that mine got fed up with the exercising
>> and slunk off into the night.
>> Well, the early dawn, anyway.
>Yeah, I'm generally not in favor of anthropomorphism. In a kind of
>strange way, I feel it promotes victimization.
Interesting. That's generally how I feel when writers talk about
their Muses. (Well, anybody after Milton, anyhow.)
>But I agree that this
>one fits. This is the difference, for me, between 'increased
>wakefulness', where one is actually able to function on less sleep,
>and being possessed by This Thing that won't let you sleep, and you
>can't function well and you just feel like crap.
Yes, that is *exactly* what it feels like. I mean, I'm not a sleep
Nazi, I don't have Ideas about how long I should sleep and when I
should go to bed. Increased wakefulness is Entirely Welcome ANY
GODDAMNED TIME. I've never seen it yet. But after all, one must
leave a *few* treats for one's later years.
Dalepa
with sugar. My palms and the bottom of my feet feel several times
hotter than the rest of my body. The hot flashes occur less than 5
minutes after I eat products with sugar.
I don't think this has anything do with menopause. I'm 35 and Male.
I found this thread becaue I just drank a coke, and once again I'm
experiencing hot flashes and decided to try and find out if anyone else
has reported the same problem.... Bingo, I'm not alone.
Now, does anyone know of a why this occurs, or how to solve the
problem? This must be a know problem with somebody function...
The following products always cause my hot flashes:
Cokes, Candy, Beer, Wine.
Baked goods pies, cakes, cookies...
Red Wine causes the hotest of the hot flashes.
I went on the Sugar Buster diet for about a month. Loved it, and I
never felt better and even lost 10 pounds. However after a month the
craving for sugar won out.
I also read the Sugar Buster book, and it explains why sugar is so bad.
I just want my cake and eat it to...
Dan
In article <9734878...@neptune.uniserve.ca>,
"Kim" <dle...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> I'm just curious if anyone else here has connected hot flashes with
sugar
> intake. I'm just turning 50 in the next 6 months and have not eaten
sugar
> (including honey or sugar substitutes) for about 3 years until
recently I
> went on a sugar binge for about about 3 days. During that week I
> experienced about 20 hot flashes per day and night something I've
never had
> before. Infact these were my first hot flashes ever. I quit the
sugar and
> they went away. Coincidence? I'm thinking not. It really makes me
want to
> stay away from the stuff. Has anyone else here experienced this.
>
>
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> I'm just curious if anyone else here has connected hot flashes with sugar
> intake. I'm just turning 50 in the next 6 months and have not eaten sugar
> (including honey or sugar substitutes) for about 3 years until recently I
> went on a sugar binge for about about 3 days. During that week I
> experienced about 20 hot flashes per day and night something I've never had
> before. Infact these were my first hot flashes ever. I quit the sugar and
> they went away. Coincidence? I'm thinking not. It really makes me want to
> stay away from the stuff. Has anyone else here experienced this.