OT: Novel idea - eat your fruits and vegetables!
FurPaw
The top three veggies in terms of consumption were interesting
... iceberg lettuce, tomatoes, and french-fried potatoes.
FurPaw
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/4/01 5:25 PM Pacific Standard Time
>http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/02/science/02BROD.html
>
>The top three veggies in terms of consumption were interesting
>... iceberg lettuce, tomatoes, and french-fried potatoes.
>
Doesn't surprise me...shades of McDonald's. Personally,I try to eat the dark
green and deep yellow ones as much as possible.
Sharon..*.eat your fruits and veggies and exercise daily*
suzilem
"Frankenmel" <frank...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20010104215830...@ng-cg1.aol.com...
> >From: FurPaw furpa...@MILLENIUM2001.home.com
> >Date: 1/4/01 5:25 PM Pacific Standard Time
>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/02/science/02BROD.html
> >
> >The top three veggies in terms of consumption were interesting
> >... iceberg lettuce, tomatoes, and french-fried potatoes.
> >
>
> Doesn't surprise me...shades of McDonald's. Personally,I try to eat the
dark
> green and deep yellow ones as much as possible.
>
:-)
Pat Kight
Nah. French fries are part of what my friend Mark refers to as the
Crunchy Golden-Brown Food Group.
One of my personal favorites, I might add ...
--Pat Kight
kig...@peak.org
Pat Kight
Eeeew. I bet they're those nasty, pallid, supermarket tomatoes, too.
IMO, iceberg lettuce isn't a vegetable - it's packing material...
--Pat Kight
who had a lovely grilled eggplant last night.
kig...@peak.org
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/5/01 9:02 AM Pacific Standard Time
>RANT ALERT....RANT ALERT....RANT ALERT.....
>
>Look, it's all very well to turn up your nose, but there's a *reason* most
>Americans don't eat "lovely grilled eggplant." Most Americans *don't like
>the taste of vegetables.* It's not that we're *stupid* and don't know
>they're good for us, it's just that *they taste nasty*!!!!!! They taste
>*bitter* and *sour,* unless you totally drown them in butter and salt.
>(Except for squash, which tastes sickeningly sweet, unless you totally drown
>it in butter and salt.) When they're raw they're too hard to chew, and when
>they're cooked they're soggy and mushy unless you stand over them with a
>fucking stopwatch. I force myself to eat the goddamn things as often as I
>can stand it, but DON'T all stand around sneering at me because I don't
>*appreciate* them. Evidently I have plenty of company!
>
>Eva
Yeah,Eva...I hear ya. I am not at all fond of broccoli either,but when I read
how powerful a source of nutrients it is,I eat it and get on with things.
Carrots are okay,I don't adore them,but they are okay. Spinach to me is neutral
in flavor. I really like sweet potatoes and all sorts of squash.
Pat Kight
>
> Pat Kight <kig...@ucs.orst.edu> wrote in message
> news:3A55F96C...@ucs.orst.edu...
>
> RANT ALERT....RANT ALERT....RANT ALERT.....
Feel free!
>
> Look, it's all very well to turn up your nose, but there's a *reason* most
> Americans don't eat "lovely grilled eggplant." Most Americans *don't like
> the taste of vegetables.* It's not that we're *stupid* and don't know
> they're good for us, it's just that *they taste nasty*!!!!!! They taste
> *bitter* and *sour,* unless you totally drown them in butter and salt.
I honestly believe this is *partly* (not entirely) due to the fact that
most Americans are stuck with the produce they can buy at the
supermarket - and a lot of it has had all the damn flavor bred out of it
in exchange for nonperishability. I don't like 'em either (see my
comments about iceberg lettuce, above -- it *is* nasty, and wet, and
hasn't got a single thing to recommend it, IMO.)
> (Except for squash, which tastes sickeningly sweet, unless you totally drown
> it in butter and salt.) When they're raw they're too hard to chew, and when
> they're cooked they're soggy and mushy unless you stand over them with a
> fucking stopwatch. I force myself to eat the goddamn things as often as I
> can stand it, but DON'T all stand around sneering at me because I don't
> *appreciate* them.
Eva, I wouldn't dream of sneering at you - for anything. If I'm sneering
at all, it's at the food production and transportation system that's
left too many Americans thinking that iceberg lettuce and supermarket
tomatoes are representative of what a vegetable ought to be.
Now, some might take this a s a cue to try to convince you that
well-prepared, fresh-from-the-garden vegetables taste great, with a lot
of "oh, but you haven't tried X," or "make yourself a big pot of Y and
see if it changes your mind." ... but I'm not going to do that. You're a
grownup, and one of the few privileges that truly separate the grownups
from the kids is that we get to eat - or not eat - whatever we damned
well please.
--Pat Kight
kig...@peak.org
Pat Kight
>
> As far as supermarket eggplant is concerned, I don't buy it. I've even
> given up trying.
FWIW, the eggplant I had for dinner was a Japanese one, from the local
co-op. Expensive but to beautiful to resist. And not at all bitter.
--Pat Kight
kig...@peak.org
Gail Reed
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Eva D. Struction wrote:
>
> Pat Kight <kig...@ucs.orst.edu> wrote in message
> news:3A55F96C...@ucs.orst.edu...
> --------------
>
> RANT ALERT....RANT ALERT....RANT ALERT.....
>
> Look, it's all very well to turn up your nose, but there's a *reason* most
> Americans don't eat "lovely grilled eggplant." Most Americans *don't like
> the taste of vegetables.* It's not that we're *stupid* and don't know
> they're good for us, it's just that *they taste nasty*!!!!!! They taste
> *bitter* and *sour,* unless you totally drown them in butter and salt.
> (Except for squash, which tastes sickeningly sweet, unless you totally drown
> it in butter and salt.) When they're raw they're too hard to chew, and when
> they're cooked they're soggy and mushy unless you stand over them with a
> fucking stopwatch. I force myself to eat the goddamn things as often as I
> can stand it, but DON'T all stand around sneering at me because I don't
> *appreciate* them. Evidently I have plenty of company!
>
> Eva
>
>
>
This is great!!! I love your rants, Eva (and your screen name, too.) I
used to say that all green food was poisonous, except lime
sherbet. Chives lose their toxicity if sprinkled on a *lot* of sour
cream on top of a baked potato. Of course, deep-frying any vegetable
removes the toxins, as well as adding flavor. And as I'm sure most of us
have suspected, chocolate-covered anything is good for you.
Gail
Gail Reed
<snip>
> > >
> > > Doesn't surprise me...shades of McDonald's. Personally,I try to eat the
> > dark
> > > green and deep yellow ones as much as possible.
> > >
> > well, french fries "are" deep yellow......
>
>
> Nah. French fries are part of what my friend Mark refers to as the
> Crunchy Golden-Brown Food Group.
>
> One of my personal favorites, I might add ...
>
>
Meats&Dairy, Fruits&Veggies, and Chocolate. Could there be 5 basic
food groups? Good nutrition is so confusion-making...
Gail
suzilem
> Meats&Dairy, Fruits&Veggies, and Chocolate. Could there be 5 basic
> food groups? Good nutrition is so confusion-making...
> Gail
The traditional "Computer Geek" 4 basic food groups are salt, sugar, grease,
and caffeine.
so, a perfectly balanced meal is Classic Coke and french fries! :-)
Sue
Laura Blanchard
>ook, it's all very well to turn up your nose, but there's a *reason* most
>Americans don't eat "lovely grilled eggplant." Most Americans *don't like
>the taste of vegetables.* It's not that we're *stupid* and don't know
>they're good for us, it's just that *they taste nasty*!!!!!! They taste
>*bitter* and *sour,* unless you totally drown them in butter and salt.
>(Except for squash, which tastes sickeningly sweet, unless you totally drown
>it in butter and salt.) When they're raw they're too hard to chew, and when
>they're cooked they're soggy and mushy unless you stand over them with a
>fucking stopwatch. I force myself to eat the goddamn things as often as I
>can stand it, but DON'T all stand around sneering at me because I don't
>*appreciate* them. Evidently I have plenty of company!
>
Like me, for instance. In my family, we joke that we're having "Laura's
favorite vegetable" on nights that we skip them entirely.
[Full disclosure postscript -- I actually *do* like a couple of vegetables:
spinach and green beans and a couple of kinds of squash. But I'm also not
afraid of butter.]
Regards,
Laura Blanchard
lblan...@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/lblanch000/
http://menopause.tripod.com (Land o'Links --
click the cormorant for Menopause & Beyond)
Laura Blanchard
>
>Sharon..*.eat your fruits and veggies and exercise daily*
Could I send you mine? I don't mind the exercise, but I hate my lovely fruits
and vegetables.
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/5/01 11:16 AM Pacific Standard Time
>The traditional "Computer Geek" 4 basic food groups are salt, sugar, grease,
>and caffeine.
>so, a perfectly balanced meal is Classic Coke and french fries! :-)
Does chocolate come under sugar,grease or both? 8-)
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/5/01 1:40 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Sharon wrote:
>
>>
>>Sharon..*.eat your fruits and veggies and exercise daily*
>
>Could I send you mine? I don't mind the exercise, but I hate my lovely fruits
>and vegetables.
Sure...please send on any that aren't rotten 8-)
Oh,and what can I send you in return? Pounds of butter?
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/5/01 3:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
>I'm not always in a vegetable-eating mood myself; I think that some of
>it has to do with my unreliable digestion. But I am currently in the
>middle of a big veggie-eating phase. Cabbage and spinach.
With cabbage,I would have to make sure I was stocked up on simmering potpourri
8-)
Frankenmel
>Actually, the perfect candy would be mocha, made with real coffee and dark
>chocolate, a dash of salt for balance....and voila! One for four, and four
>for one. Does it exist? Or is it the Holy Grail ?
Add Harvey's bristol creme or drambuie or Irish creme or cointreau or Grant's
scotch and I will totally agree.
MrsMeister
>And as I'm sure most of us
>have suspected, chocolate-covered anything is good for you.
I knew I liked you! Amen!
Martha
MrsMeister
>But I'm also not
>afraid of butter
Good for you! Butter is not bad for you.. cream and salt and nothing else. Now
look at the ingredients in margarine.... I rest my case. Margarine was invented
to supplement the butter supply so that butter could be sent to the troops
overseas... it was never anything but a substitute.
Martha
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/5/01 7:08 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Frankenmel <frank...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
>>>From: Karen Kay ka...@wordwrite.com
>>>Date: 1/5/01 3:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
>
>>>I'm not always in a vegetable-eating mood myself; I think that some of
>>>it has to do with my unreliable digestion. But I am currently in the
>>>middle of a big veggie-eating phase. Cabbage and spinach.
>
>> With cabbage,I would have to make sure I was stocked up on simmering
>potpourri
>> 8-)
>
>Potpourri causes my lungs to close up. Cabbage doesn't adversely
>affect me. YMMV.
>
>Karen
Potpourri *can* affect me depending upon how sensitive my bronchi are. This
season lots of things bother me. My asthma was really under control,but now
once a day something bothers me,but I can usually breath-control it away.
MrsMeister
>Hmmm, I guess there's no caffeine in Kahlua?
Oh contraire, my friend, that is heart palpitations for sure !!!
Martha
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/5/01 8:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Can you breath-control the inflammation of your bronchi away?! That's
>impressive.
Yes,I really can. I did it last night. I started feeling the symptom,and I told
myself to relax,and I could feel the change. I was awestruck.
Sometimes when I'm out in public without my inhaler handy,I *imagine* using
it,and the constriction goes away.
It is amazing about the mind-body connection.
gs
"Karen Kay" <ka...@wordwrite.com> wrote in message
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> Eva D. Struction <EvaD...@att.net> wrote:
> > Look, it's all very well to turn up your nose, but there's a *reason*
most
> > Americans don't eat "lovely grilled eggplant." Most Americans *don't
like
> > the taste of vegetables.* It's not that we're *stupid* and don't know
> > they're good for us, it's just that *they taste nasty*!!!!!! They taste
> > *bitter* and *sour,* unless you totally drown them in butter and salt.
> > (Except for squash, which tastes sickeningly sweet, unless you totally
drown
> > it in butter and salt.) When they're raw they're too hard to chew, and
when
> > they're cooked they're soggy and mushy unless you stand over them with a
> > fucking stopwatch. I force myself to eat the goddamn things as often as
I
> > can stand it, but DON'T all stand around sneering at me because I don't
> > *appreciate* them. Evidently I have plenty of company!
>
> taste, but because you simply have bad-tasting vegetables where you
> live. (Though not everyone likes every vegetable.)
>
> The first time I had brussels sprouts was on a farm, and they were
> wonderful--I had something like 4 helpings. That was 30 years ago. In
> the intervening 30 years, I've tried to eat them again and loathed
> them. I lived for a while with someone who loved them, so this was a
> bone of contention. Until--we discovered that brussels sprouts on the
> stalk taste *good*. Especially the baby ones. I don't eat enough of
> them to buy a stalk for myself, but this is one of the things I would
> like to grow. Like broccoli, you can eat off of it while it continues
> to grow.
>
> As far as supermarket eggplant is concerned, I don't buy it. I've even
> matte purple instead of having a deep healthy purple glow. Under
> duress (like a potluck to go to) I may buy one for baba ganouj, but
> otherwise, they are composting material. In California, I bought
> farmer's market eggplant; haven't found a good substitute here, yet.
>
> Or, you may just really hate vegetables...
>
> Karen
>
There are lots of people that HATE vegetables. It doesn't matter where they
are from or how they are cooked.
Some don't like fish, seafood, fruit, butter, juices,salad dressings, ice
cream, milk, meat, chicken, pork,chocolate, etc...
Gwen
gs
"Eva D. Struction" <EvaD...@att.net> wrote in message
news:k6n56.16954$7f3.1...@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> RANT ALERT....RANT ALERT....RANT ALERT.....
>
> Americans don't eat "lovely grilled eggplant." Most Americans *don't like
> the taste of vegetables.* It's not that we're *stupid* and don't know
> they're good for us, it's just that *they taste nasty*!!!!!! They taste
> *bitter* and *sour,* unless you totally drown them in butter and salt.
> (Except for squash, which tastes sickeningly sweet, unless you totally
drown
> it in butter and salt.) When they're raw they're too hard to chew, and
when
> they're cooked they're soggy and mushy unless you stand over them with a
> fucking stopwatch. I force myself to eat the goddamn things as often as I
> can stand it, but DON'T all stand around sneering at me because I don't
> *appreciate* them. Evidently I have plenty of company!
>
>
Nice rant! Enjoyed it tremendously!
Gwen
Marilee
>I don't think that most people
> are knowledgeable about the foot they attempt to eat.
>
ROFL
I'm still giggling. This was the perfect typo to give me a lift after the
week I've had. I think my foot's been in my mouth more often than not....
Marilee
Laura Blanchard
>Hmmm, I guess there's no caffeine in Kahlua?
Who cares? There's caffeine in chocolate.
MrsMeister
>are knowledgeable about the foot they attempt to eat.
LMAO!! thanks!Martha
gs
> gs <he...@rest.com> wrote:
> > There are lots of people that HATE vegetables. It doesn't matter where
they
> > are from or how they are cooked.
>
> poor quality ones.
>
> > Some don't like fish, seafood, fruit, butter, juices,salad dressings,
ice
> > cream, milk, meat, chicken, pork,chocolate, etc...
>
I was trying to point out that not everyone likes the same foods.
> Usually when people hate a whole class of food, there's a reason
> why. Some people don't like fish because of the smell--but fish
> shouldn't smell. If it does, it's old. I don't think that most people
> are knowledgeable about the foot they attempt to eat.
>
LOL!
> I don't really care if Eva hates vegetables or not. I'm just saying
> that an investigation into quality is always in order.
>
> Karen
>
I was just pointing out...it isn't always the quality of the food/vegetable.
Different people have different tastes. When someone really doesn't like a
food...the quality or preparation doesn't make a bit of difference.
Gwen
Frankenmel
> why. Some people don't like fish because of the smell--but fish
> shouldn't smell. If it does, it's old. I don't think that most people
> are knowledgeable about the foot they attempt to eat.
> Karen
*splork*.....yeah, most people aren't too well acquainted with that *foot* they
put in their mouth.
Lianne McNeil
not met a vegetable that I didn't like... except iceburg lettuce --
which doesn't qualify as "vegetable," anyway. ;-)
Eggplant is one of my favorites. Kale is my very favorite, especially
when picked in the cool time of year, after frost.
Lianne
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 08:42:20 -0800, Pat Kight <kig...@ucs.orst.edu>
wrote:
(This is a posting only email address.)
Lianne McNeil
wrote:
>>From: Karen Kay ka...@wordwrite.com
>>Date: 1/5/01 3:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
>
>>I'm not always in a vegetable-eating mood myself; I think that some of
>>it has to do with my unreliable digestion. But I am currently in the
>>middle of a big veggie-eating phase. Cabbage and spinach.
>
>With cabbage,I would have to make sure I was stocked up on simmering potpourri
>8-)
LOL! I can't think of any potpourri that would cover up THAT smell!
;-)
Hi Sharon, I don't think we've met before. I've read a few of the
messages here from the past month... and (if I'm correct) I've deduced
that you live, I mean, work, under the Burnside Bridge... ;-) (We went
shopping at Saturday Market on Christmas Eve day -- the only fun place
to shop on that day of the year.)
>Sharon..*.eat your fruits and veggies and exercise daily*
I think I like your philosophy. :-)
Lianne
(a fellow Portlandian, sort of.)
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/6/01 9:20 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Frankenmel <frank...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
>>> Usually when people hate a whole class of food, there's a reason
>>> why. Some people don't like fish because of the smell--but fish
>>> shouldn't smell. If it does, it's old. I don't think that most people
>>> are knowledgeable about the foot they attempt to eat.
>
>>> Karen
>
>> *splork*.....yeah, most people aren't too well acquainted with that *foot*
>they
>> put in their mouth.
>
>I know it's easy to point a finger and laugh, but there is an
>important point here.
>
>Karen
Awww...Karen...we were just having a little fun here.
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/6/01 9:17 AM Pacific Standard Time
>ROFL, Pat! I had forgotten how much alike we think sometimes. I have
>not met a vegetable that I didn't like... except iceburg lettuce --
>which doesn't qualify as "vegetable," anyway. ;-)
>
Good for you...liking all those veggies!
Lianne McNeil
I usually just steam it and eat it with a dab of butter on it. But one
time I had made fried mushrooms and used too much butter. (When I fry
mushrooms Ifry them until they are somewhat dry and crispy. I add a
tablespoon or two of butter whenever they get too dry. This time I'd
added a couple of tablespoons too much and it was leftover when I took
the mushrooms from the pan.) So I used that leftover mushroom seasoned
butter to steam/saute some kale and it was delicious.
Lianne
On 6 Jan 2001 17:46:33 GMT, Karen Kay <ka...@wordwrite.com> wrote:
>Lianne McNeil <glass...@delete.juno.com> wrote:
>> Eggplant is one of my favorites. Kale is my very favorite, especially
>> when picked in the cool time of year, after frost.
>
>I bought some kale w/ sesame at the Whole Foods deli the other day,
>but I haven't eaten it yet. This is a New Food Adventure for me. Do
>you have an recommendations for cooking/eating kale?
>
>Karen
barbara trumpinski-roberts
dogonnit, sue....now i want to go to mcdonald's.....eeeewwwwww, i can't
believe i said that.
hugs,
kitten
/\ /\ 'ah, but you don't have to know everything. you
{=.=} just have to know where to find it.' john brunner
~ kit...@uiuc.edu _shockwave rider_
http://members.tripod.com/~barbarakitten smotu
barbara trumpinski-roberts
>
> gs <he...@rest.com> wrote:
> > I was just pointing out...it isn't always the quality of the food/vegetable.
>
>
> > Different people have different tastes. When someone really doesn't like a
> > food...the quality or preparation doesn't make a bit of difference.
>
>
and i like caviar....
FurPaw
Yeah, those partially hydrogenated oils never found in nature
don't seem to promote healthy arteries... Butter is harmful only
if you eat too much of it. Like anything else. And 'too much'
may be fairly individual.
Have you ever tried olive oil as a substitute for butter? We've
been experimenting with extra-virgin varieties, and find that
they have interesting, subtly different flavors. We use it on
veggies and dip bread into a bowl of it, with freshly ground
pepper and a little salt.
FurPaw
FurPaw
"Eva D. Struction" wrote:
>
> Frankenmel <frank...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> news:20010105202803...@ng-fi1.aol.com...
> > >From: "Eva D. Struction" EvaD...@att.net
> > >Date: 1/5/01 3:46 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >
> > >Actually, the perfect candy would be mocha, made with real coffee and
> dark
> > >chocolate, a dash of salt for balance....and voila! One for four, and
> four
> > >for one. Does it exist? Or is it the Holy Grail ?
> >
> > Add Harvey's bristol creme or drambuie or Irish creme or cointreau or
> Grant's
> > scotch and I will totally agree.
> ---------
> Hmmm, I guess there's no caffeine in Kahlua?
Indeed there is. It's made with concentrated coffee. (Unless
they use decaf???)
FurPaw
FurPaw
Karen Kay wrote:
>
> Frankenmel <frank...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
> >> Usually when people hate a whole class of food, there's a reason
> >> why. Some people don't like fish because of the smell--but fish
> >> shouldn't smell. If it does, it's old. I don't think that most people
> >> are knowledgeable about the foot they attempt to eat.
>
> >> Karen
>
> > *splork*.....yeah, most people aren't too well acquainted with that *foot* they
> > put in their mouth.
>
> I know it's easy to point a finger and laugh, but there is an
> important point here.
Karen, it was damn close to a Kightism, and for that you should
feel proud!
On a serious note, I agree with your point. Most foods that I
have initially disliked made a bad first impression. They had
either poor quality or poor preparation. Spinach - well, should
canned green slime even be *considered* a food? Broccoli -
better when steamed for considerably less than half an hour.
Liver - nope, this one stays on my list (I did say *most*.) No
matter how expertly prepared or seasoned in a pate, it still
leaves a putrid aftertaste in my mouth.
FurPaw
barbara trumpinski-roberts
> Have you ever tried olive oil as a substitute for butter? We've
> been experimenting with extra-virgin varieties, and find that
> they have interesting, subtly different flavors. We use it on
> veggies and dip bread into a bowl of it, with freshly ground
> pepper and a little salt.
>
> FurPaw
there is a fairly expensive italian place we go to for special occasions
and, if you add a little finely grated parmesian cheese, you are having
what they call biaggi butter...
they serve it with their italian bread.
Marilee
> Lianne McNeil <glass...@delete.juno.com> wrote:
> > Eggplant is one of my favorites. Kale is my very favorite, especially
> > when picked in the cool time of year, after frost.
>
> but I haven't eaten it yet. This is a New Food Adventure for me. Do
> you have an recommendations for cooking/eating kale?
>
> Karen
>
chain of restaurants. Besides potatoes and Italian sausage, it calls for a
substantial amount of kale added at the last. (There are numerous sources
for this recipe on the web.)
Another thing I like to do if I have fresh kale and I want a light meal:
Cook plain noodle soup (like Lipton's Chicken Noodle, or a pack of Ramen)
and add a bunch of kale to the simmering broth--but just for a few minutes.
Nummer.
Marilee
Louise Bremner
> Butter is not bad for you..
Unless, of course, there's something in milk that triggers your
allergies. I second FurPaw's emotions about olive oil (popcorn!).
________________________________________________________________________
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Louise Bremner
> *splork*.....yeah, most people aren't too well acquainted with that *foot*
> they put in their mouth.
Oh.... I used to bite my toenails when I was younger and my teeth were
better aligned. That must've been good practice for later, I suppose.
Louise Bremner
> On a serious note, I agree with your point. Most foods that I
> have initially disliked made a bad first impression. They had
> either poor quality or poor preparation. Spinach - well, should
> canned green slime even be *considered* a food? Broccoli -
> better when steamed for considerably less than half an hour.
Apparently some vegetables (such as spinach, broccoli, and brussels
sprouts) have had bitter taste components bred out of them--they really
do taste different nowadays....
FurPaw
Louise Bremner wrote:
> Apparently some vegetables (such as spinach, broccoli, and brussels
> sprouts) have had bitter taste components bred out of them--they really
> do taste different nowadays....
Really! I hadn't heard that. Now considering that the bitter
taste components are often the compounds that contain the
antioxidants and other good nutrients, I wonder how much less
nutritions 'modern' vegetables are...
FurPaw
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/6/01 5:30 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Oh.... I used to bite my toenails when I was younger and my teeth were
>better aligned. That must've been good practice for later, I suppose.
No kidding! I have heard of this,but I was never that limber. Wow. I doubt I
could even reach my feet now 8-)
Marilee
Frankenmel <frank...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> >From: dame_...@yahoo.com (Louise Bremner)
> >Date: 1/6/01 5:30 PM Pacific Standard Time
>
> >Oh.... I used to bite my toenails when I was younger and my teeth were
> >better aligned. That must've been good practice for later, I suppose.
>
> No kidding! I have heard of this,but I was never that limber. Wow. I doubt
I
> could even reach my feet now 8-)
My best friend used to bite her toenails when we were kids. She couldn't do
it now....
I can still hook my foot around the back of my neck--although I pay for it
later.
Marilee
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/6/01 7:59 PM Pacific Standard Time
>I can still hook my foot around the back of my neck--although I pay for it
>later.
Oh lordy...I can't even think of doing that.
Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet
>As I said, it's not that I don't know they are a crucial part of human
>dietary needs. I know damn well how important they are, and I try to eat
>them every day, but it's very hard to force yourself to do this if you don't
>like them in the first place.
You knowwww -- there are a number of recipes designed to get rid of
excess home-grown vegetables, the most notable in that category being
zucchini and tomatoes, and you can in fact make zucchini or tomato
cake or zucchini bread (it's a sweet quickbread, like banana bread).
Some of them have a remarkable amount of the vegetable in question,
enough to provide its nutrients; but you can't taste it as a rule.
Chocolate zucchini cake, and zucchini doesn't really have much taste
anyway. Tomatoes are amenable to spices like cinnamon and nutmeg,
which changes their character; and almost all such recipes pulverize
the vegetables out of all recognition. Do you think this would help?
--
Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet (pd...@demesne.com)
"I will open my heart to a blank page
and interview the witnesses." John M. Ford, "Shared World"
Cathy Friedmann
I didn't even catch it, till I went back & re-read it; had automatically
read "food" for "foot". ;-)
I haven't been following this thread - but people not liking fish caught my
eye. In general, I do not like fish/seafood. Wish I did, because - besides
the nutritional aspect - at many restaurants one's choice is severely
limited, when all of the seafood entrees are out of the running. And it's
really frustrating, when the others at your table are oohing & ahhing,
saying this sounds yummy, that sounds delicious, etc., and you're stuck with
the usual boring same old, same old, 'cause all of the interesting items on
the menu are... seafood.
But... what I think is kind of odd, is that tuna, lox, & anchovies are among
the few fish items I can tolerate or actually like. IOW - the really
strong, "fishy" ones. Makes no sense to me. Well, I can also deal with a
fish fry - if the batter's good & the fish itself is *very* bland. ;-)
Cathy
P.S. My spell-checker wanted me to change "oohing & ahhing" to "oozing &
aching". ;-)
P.P.S. I just had déja vu - did we already have a discussion about fish
once, *long* ago??
--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")
Cathy Friedmann
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> FurPaw <furpa...@MILLENIUM2001.home.com> wrote:
>
> > On a serious note, I agree with your point. Most foods that I
> > have initially disliked made a bad first impression. They had
> > either poor quality or poor preparation. Spinach - well, should
> > canned green slime even be *considered* a food? Broccoli -
> > better when steamed for considerably less than half an hour.
>
> Apparently some vegetables (such as spinach, broccoli, and brussels
> sprouts) have had bitter taste components bred out of them--they really
> do taste different nowadays....
>
Also, adding a tiny bit of nutmeg to them is good. Found this hint in a
vegetable cookbook about 25 years ago, & it really does work. Takes away
whatever bitterness is still present. I like spinach with butter, salt, &
vinegar, too.
Cathy
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/6/01 8:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Also, adding a tiny bit of nutmeg to them is good. Found this hint in a
>vegetable cookbook about 25 years ago, & it really does work. Takes away
>whatever bitterness is still present. I like spinach with butter, salt, &
>vinegar, too.
fascinating about nutmeg. Hmm.
Michael Baugh
by Shakertown for the eggplant casserole. Almost my all-time favorite,
after Mary See's chocolate covered cherries. That is a food, isn't it?
In article <3a575203...@news.hevanet.com>,
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Frankenmel
>Date: 1/6/01 8:54 PM Pacific Standard Time
>If you ever happen to be in Kentucky, near Harrodsburg, be sure to go
>by Shakertown for the eggplant casserole. Almost my all-time favorite,
>after Mary See's chocolate covered cherries. That is a food, isn't it?
well,of course they are. You doubt? 8-)
Louise Bremner
> My best friend used to bite her toenails when we were kids. She couldn't do
> it now....
Well, nor can I, but I like to think it's because I can't get my teeth
lined up to bite my fingernails either....
>
> I can still hook my foot around the back of my neck--although I pay for it
> later.
The weird thing is, I keep getting this strong conviction I can touch
the back of my head with the soles of both feet, but I _know_ that's
completely impossible for me.
Laura Blanchard
>But... what I think is kind of odd, is that tuna, lox, & anchovies are among
>the few fish items I can tolerate or actually like. IOW - the really
>strong, "fishy" ones. Makes no sense to me. Well, I can also deal with a
>fish fry - if the batter's good & the fish itself is *very* bland. ;-)
>
Bland fish sucks. (In my humble opinion.) I'm not wild about anchovies, but I
really like tuna, salmon, and bluefish. Mackerel, too, except for the bones.
Regards,
Laura Blanchard
lblan...@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/lblanch000/
http://menopause.tripod.com (Land o'Links --
click the cormorant for Menopause & Beyond)
Marilee
Eva D. Struction <EvaD...@att.net> wrote in message
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> > FurPaw <furpa...@millenium2001.home.com> wrote:
> > > ....Most foods that I
> > > have initially disliked made a bad first impression. They had
> > > either poor quality or poor preparation. Spinach - well, should
> > > canned green slime even be *considered* a food?
> >
>
> ------------
> I've never eaten cooked fresh spinach in my life. I have no clue how to
> cook it, and isn't it very hard to clean? Do you need a Cuisinart to chop
> it up? What would you serve it with? I'm willing to try it, because I do
> eat frozen chopped spinach.
>
> Eva
>
Do a google search for "spinach recipe" and you'll come up with many ways to
use spinach. You can chop it with a knife. It's easy to cut up.
We grow spinach every year in our garden. I like it best in tossed salads,
but it's also wonderful in stir fries, egg rolls, etc., if you feel like
adding greenery. There are also numerous Italian main dishes that call for
spinach.
RE: washing it: I wash each leaf individually under a thin stream of
running water, just as I do garden leaf lettuce. It's the way I've always
done it, and although it's time consuming, it's not difficult. If you just
swish the leaves around in a container of water there's a strong possibility
you'll have sandy residue left in some of the nooks and crannies on the
leaves. (It's especially susceptible to this after a hard rain, when the
soil has splashed back up onto the plants.)
Marilee
Marilee
> > Marilee <mae...@polarcomm.com> wrote:
> >
> > > My best friend used to bite her toenails when we were kids. She
> couldn't do
> > > it now....
> >
> > Well, nor can I, but I like to think it's because I can't get my teeth
> > lined up to bite my fingernails either....
> > >
> > > I can still hook my foot around the back of my neck--although I pay
for
> it
> > > later.
> >
> > The weird thing is, I keep getting this strong conviction I can touch
> > the back of my head with the soles of both feet, but I _know_ that's
> > completely impossible for me.
> Suppose one placed a personal ad in which one claimed to be able to do
> this.....
> Eva
ROFL
Marilee
MrsMeister
having
>what they call biaggi butter...
>
>they serve it with their italian bread.
>
Stop, Im drooling on my keyboard, I gave up bread for New Years!
Martha
MrsMeister
I've never eaten cooked fresh spinach in my life. I have no clue how to
>cook it, and isn't it very hard to clean?
spinach.
Buy a bag of triple washed fresh spinach, then dump it into a sink of cold
water and run it through your salad spinner.. Then heat several tablespoons (
lie 3 or 4 ) of olive oil and saute a glove or two of garlic until it is
golden.. then dump the fresh spinach into the oil and stir it so it gets
covered , then put the lid on for no more than a minute , and voila, you have
still slightly crunchy, sauteed spinach..season with salt if you wish, it is
delicious!
Martha
MrsMeister
>the back of my head with the soles of both feet, but I _know_ that's
>completely impossible for me.
LOL! When I play golf there are two or three wide open fairways on the course
that every time I stroll down them I get this overwhelming urge to do a
cartwheel.. Im just so afraid I might kill myself in the process!
Martha
MrsMeister
>nutritions 'modern' vegetables are...
>
I believe quite a bit because the soil they are grown in is not as nutrient
rich as it used to be.. that is why we are many nutrionist say we should all be
taking sellenium.
Martha
Frankenmel
>I've never eaten cooked fresh spinach in my life. I have no clue how to
>cook it, and isn't it very hard to clean? Do you need a Cuisinart to chop
>it up? What would you serve it with? I'm willing to try it, because I do
>eat frozen chopped spinach.
>
>Eva
I put a bunch of spinach in my big salad spinner,fill it with water,check to
see how dirty the water is,pour out the water,if dirty,fill it till clean and
spin it out. You don't need anything fancy to cut it up. Spinach tends to still
have dirt cliinging to it,so it can be timeconsuming to clean.
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/7/01 8:11 AM Pacific Standard Time
>LOL! When I play golf there are two or three wide open fairways on the course
>that every time I stroll down them I get this overwhelming urge to do a
>cartwheel.. Im just so afraid I might kill myself in the process!
>Martha
I never could do a cartwheel. I could do backwards somersaults though 8-)
gs
"Frankenmel" <frank...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> >From: mrsme...@aol.com (MrsMeister)
> >Date: 1/7/01 8:11 AM Pacific Standard Time
>
> >LOL! When I play golf there are two or three wide open fairways on the
course
> >that every time I stroll down them I get this overwhelming urge to do a
> >cartwheel.. Im just so afraid I might kill myself in the process!
> >Martha
>
> I never could do a cartwheel. I could do backwards somersaults though 8-)
>
I could never do somersaults either!
I do, at times, get the urge to try one! Especially in the springtime, when
it is so nice to be outdoors.
Gwen
barbara trumpinski-roberts
> Louise Bremner <dame_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > The weird thing is, I keep getting this strong conviction I can touch
> > the back of my head with the soles of both feet, but I _know_ that's
> > completely impossible for me.
> -------------
> Suppose one placed a personal ad in which one claimed to be able to do
> this.....
PPPTTTTHHHHH!!!!!!!!
just kittened my tea....
one of my other newsgroups has a "no personals" rule....do we need one
here??????
hugs,
kitten
/\ /\ 'ah, but you don't have to know everything. you
{=.=} just have to know where to find it.' john brunner
~ kit...@uiuc.edu _shockwave rider_
http://members.tripod.com/~barbarakitten smotu
barbara trumpinski-roberts
i'm sorry....
i don't think i could give up bread totally...but i had to give up my
latest loaf of apple walnut because it got eaten by the stupid cody dog.
Laura Blanchard
>Buy a bag of triple washed fresh spinach, then dump it into a sink of cold
>water and run it through your salad spinner.. Then heat several tablespoons (
>lie 3 or 4 ) of olive oil and saute a glove or two of garlic until it is
>golden.. then dump the fresh spinach into the oil and stir it so it gets
>covered , then put the lid on for no more than a minute , and voila, you have
>still slightly crunchy, sauteed spinach..season with salt if you wish, it is
>delicious!
I do something similar, but I saute onions and mushrooms in the olive oil
before adding the spinach.
Lazy-person hint: the baby spinach that's sold in some supermarkets such as
Whole Foods is also grit-free and is extra nice cooked like this -- no chunky
stems. When I buy whole spinach, I often pinch off the stems.
Louise Bremner
> > The weird thing is, I keep getting this strong conviction I can touch
> > the back of my head with the soles of both feet, but I _know_ that's
> > completely impossible for me.
> -------------
> Suppose one placed a personal ad in which one claimed to be able to do
> this.....
Uh.... Pass....
I don't think I'd want to meet guys who claim they can swing from the
chandeliers with ... um... Gosh! Do you know it's snowing outside? It
rarely does in Tokyo--gets cold enough, but it's usually too dry for
snow.
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/7/01 1:05 PM Pacific Standard Time
[snip]
>Lazy-person hint: the baby spinach that's sold in some supermarkets such as
>Whole Foods is also grit-free and is extra nice cooked like this -- no chunky
>stems. When I buy whole spinach, I often pinch off the stems.
If I weren't such a miser I would buy this kind too. I really don't mind the
washing ritual. I,too,pinch off the stems.
Lianne McNeil
wrote:
>If you ever happen to be in Kentucky, near Harrodsburg, be sure to go
>by Shakertown for the eggplant casserole. Almost my all-time favorite,
>after Mary See's chocolate covered cherries. That is a food, isn't it?
Thanks for the suggestion!
The chocolate covered cherries sound good, too (but my favorite
chocolate is chocolate raspberry... as in See's raspberry truffles,
etc.
Lianne
Lianne McNeil
<furpa...@MILLENIUM2001.home.com> wrote:
>MrsMeister wrote:
>> >Laura Blanchard writes:
>>
>> >But I'm also not
>> >afraid of butter
>>
>> Good for you! Butter is not bad for you.. cream and salt and nothing else. Now
>> look at the ingredients in margarine.... I rest my case. Margarine was invented
>> to supplement the butter supply so that butter could be sent to the troops
>> overseas... it was never anything but a substitute.
>
>Yeah, those partially hydrogenated oils never found in nature
>don't seem to promote healthy arteries... Butter is harmful only
>if you eat too much of it. Like anything else. And 'too much'
>may be fairly individual.
I find that when I use real butter I use a lot less than when it's
margarine. It only takes (me) 1/4 tsp. to butter a slice of bread, for
instance (vs. about 3/4 tsp of margarine to do the same.)
>Have you ever tried olive oil as a substitute for butter? We've
>been experimenting with extra-virgin varieties, and find that
>they have interesting, subtly different flavors. We use it on
>veggies and dip bread into a bowl of it, with freshly ground
>pepper and a little salt.
>
>FurPaw
Mmm -- that sounds good! Also, roasted garlic in olive oil is a
heavenly spread (to me)!
Frankenmel
>Uh oh, here's that "salad spinner" thing again. Is this another one of
>those things everybody but me knows about? I think I'll do what Marilee
>suggested and rinse the leaves under the faucet.
A salad spinner is a big plastic bowl with an insert that has holes for
drainage. The lid has a knob that you hold onto and rotate to spin the excess
water out of veggies.
Sometimes the curly-leafed spinach has so much soil on it that I end up
hand-washing the leaves later on anyway.
I think in your case,you'd be better off buying the prewashed kind because it
might help motivate you to eat it. Good luck,Eva.
Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet
>I've never eaten cooked fresh spinach in my life. I have no clue how to
>cook it, and isn't it very hard to clean? Do you need a Cuisinart to chop
>it up? What would you serve it with? I'm willing to try it, because I do
>eat frozen chopped spinach.
Just tell me to shut up if you get sick of me, but you don't have to
buy huge wrinkly sandy spinach if you don't want to. Look in the
supermarket where they have the bags of prepared salads, and there
should be some that are just baby spinach. It's nice and tender,
doesn't even need to be destemmed or chopped because the leaves are
small, and rinsing it under cold water for a few moments is all that's
necessary. It even comes in organic.
Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet
>MrsMeister <mrsme...@aol.com> wrote:
>> LOL! When I play golf there are two or three wide open fairways on the course
>> that every time I stroll down them I get this overwhelming urge to do a
>> cartwheel.. Im just so afraid I might kill myself in the process!
>Part of what I'm doing in Pilates is working toward doing a
>somersault without breaking anything.
Wouldn't it be easier just to move the fragile furniture out of the
way?
All right, sorry, now that I've got *that* out of the way, I think
this is very cool. And I wish to boast that -- um, oh, great, how
many years, two, I guess -- two years' worth of moderate weight
training have really paid off in strength and stamina. We're having
our first real winter for some time and I can shovel all the snow
without collapsing for days afterwards.
FurPaw
Frankenmel wrote:
> I think in your case,you'd be better off buying the prewashed kind because it
> might help motivate you to eat it. Good luck,Eva.
Good advice - I usually do this, unless I buy the spinach at a garden
market in the summer.
One word of caution - look at the spinach in the bag carefully and make
sure it looks fresh (no slimy-looking leaves, no limp or yellowing leaves,
feels "crisp" when you squeeze the bag gently). If you get a bag of old
spinach, you'll *never* try it again!
I love baby spinach! And it's flavor is milder than mature spinach.
FurPaw
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/7/01 2:53 PM Pacific Standard Time
>One word of caution - look at the spinach in the bag carefully and make
>sure it looks fresh (no slimy-looking leaves, no limp or yellowing leaves,
>feels "crisp" when you squeeze the bag gently). If you get a bag of old
>spinach, you'll *never* try it again!
OH!!! Thanks...I forgot to mention that after I wash all the spinach,I put it
in a clean plastic bread bag with a paper towel. The paper towel absorbs any
excess moisture. A produce manager advised me against storing spinach dry,as it
dehydrates and degrades. You don't want that to happen.
April Goodwin-Smith
> Uh oh, here's that "salad spinner" thing again. Is this
> another one of those things everybody but me knows about?
> I think I'll do what Marilee suggested and rinse the leaves
> under the faucet.
Nonononono. This is one of those fun kitchen gadgets. They range
in price, but my cheapie from WalMart ($4.95 Canadian + GST)
works great and stands up to my *robust* usage. It's a pair
of nested cylinders with a lid. The inner cylinder is holey
like a colander and the outer cylinder has drainage in the
bottom. The lid has a hand crank that turns the inner cylander.
Here's the fun part: the faster you crank, the harder the wet
salad mixings are pressed against the wall of the inner cylinder,
and the more water that runs out. It's a good destresser because
you can add water and crank for as long as you like.
....er....remember to do the cranking in the sink. Every now and
then I get right into it and forget and clutch the cylinder to my
belly and crank like a fiend....
April.
--
afpmatron of honour to Thom, afpdallying with Eric,
afpetit pois d'usenet to Goblin *** "Things that try to
look like things often do look more like things than things.
Well known fact." Esmerelda Weatherwax (Pratchett 1988)
Marilee
April Goodwin-Smith <aprilgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
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> "Eva D. Struction" wrote:
> > Uh oh, here's that "salad spinner" thing again. Is this
> > another one of those things everybody but me knows about?
> > I think I'll do what Marilee suggested and rinse the leaves
> > under the faucet.
>
> Nonononono. This is one of those fun kitchen gadgets. They range
> in price, but my cheapie from WalMart ($4.95 Canadian + GST)
> works great and stands up to my *robust* usage. It's a pair
> of nested cylinders with a lid. The inner cylinder is holey
> like a colander and the outer cylinder has drainage in the
> bottom. The lid has a hand crank that turns the inner cylander.
> Here's the fun part: the faster you crank, the harder the wet
> salad mixings are pressed against the wall of the inner cylinder,
> and the more water that runs out. It's a good destresser because
> you can add water and crank for as long as you like.
>
> ....er....remember to do the cranking in the sink. Every now and
> then I get right into it and forget and clutch the cylinder to my
> belly and crank like a fiend....
>
> April.
My salad spinner's outer container is not full of holes. There's a raised
knob in the bottom so that the excess water collects in the gap [between
inner cylinder and outer cylinder] there, and I pour it out after each
really vigorous whirl.
Marilee
Marilee
Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet <pd...@gw.dd-b.net> wrote in message
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> Karen Kay <ka...@wordwrite.com> writes:
>
> >MrsMeister <mrsme...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> LOL! When I play golf there are two or three wide open fairways on the
course
> >> that every time I stroll down them I get this overwhelming urge to do a
> >> cartwheel.. Im just so afraid I might kill myself in the process!
>
> >Part of what I'm doing in Pilates is working toward doing a
> >somersault without breaking anything.
>
> Wouldn't it be easier just to move the fragile furniture out of the
> way?
>
> All right, sorry, now that I've got *that* out of the way, I think
> this is very cool. And I wish to boast that -- um, oh, great, how
> many years, two, I guess -- two years' worth of moderate weight
> training have really paid off in strength and stamina. We're having
> our first real winter for some time and I can shovel all the snow
> without collapsing for days afterwards.
>
for a couple of days last week, and it really took the snow down. (I
especially like to watch the water dripping from the tips of the huge
icicles hanging around on buildings.)
Marilee
Marilee
barbara trumpinski-roberts <kit...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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> On 7 Jan 2001, MrsMeister wrote:
> >
> > Kitten writes:> if you add a little finely grated parmesian cheese, you
are
> > having
> > >what they call biaggi butter...
> > >
> > >they serve it with their italian bread.
> > >
> >
> > Stop, Im drooling on my keyboard, I gave up bread for New Years!
> > Martha
>
> i'm sorry....
>
> i don't think i could give up bread totally...but i had to give up my
> latest loaf of apple walnut because it got eaten by the stupid cody dog.
>
> hugs,
>
> kitten
Wolves like apples and walnuts? Who'd a thunk it?
Is apple walnut bread a yeast bread or a quick bread? It sounds really
nummy.
Marilee
c lindau
Marilee wrote:
> Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet <pd...@gw.dd-b.net> wrote in message
> news:pddb.97...@gw.dd-b.net...
> > And I wish to boast that -- um, oh, great, how
> > many years, two, I guess -- two years' worth of moderate weight
> > training have really paid off in strength and stamina. We're having
> > our first real winter for some time and I can shovel all the snow
> > without collapsing for days afterwards.
> >
> Didn't that January thaw make it to the Cities? We had 40+ degree weather
> for a couple of days last week, and it really took the snow down. (I
> especially like to watch the water dripping from the tips of the huge
> icicles hanging around on buildings.)
Yes, it did--it's been nice for a few days now; not quite 40 degrees, I think,
but close. My sweetie has gotten his first seed catalogs and is starting to
think about what to start from seed this year. We only have a front and back
porch, so we only plant some windowboxes and containers. It'll be especially fun
this year, because last summer our porch was rebuilt (*&%*%&%!) and we couldn't
use it at all.Of course, it's much nicer now.
Cindy
Marilee
c lindau <cli...@uswest.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Marilee wrote:
>
> > Pamela Dean Dyer-Bennet <pd...@gw.dd-b.net> wrote in message
> > news:pddb.97...@gw.dd-b.net...
> > > And I wish to boast that -- um, oh, great, how
> > > many years, two, I guess -- two years' worth of moderate weight
> > > training have really paid off in strength and stamina. We're having
> > > our first real winter for some time and I can shovel all the snow
> > > without collapsing for days afterwards.
> > >
> > Didn't that January thaw make it to the Cities? We had 40+ degree
weather
> > for a couple of days last week, and it really took the snow down. (I
> > especially like to watch the water dripping from the tips of the huge
> > icicles hanging around on buildings.)
>
> Yes, it did--it's been nice for a few days now; not quite 40 degrees, I
think,
> but close. My sweetie has gotten his first seed catalogs and is starting
to
> think about what to start from seed this year.
We also consider seed catalogs as the first sure sign of spring.....
They've been coming thick and fast, lately.
Marilee
>
> Cindy
>
MrsMeister
>Uh oh, here's that "salad spinner" thing again.
Hey honey, join the 21st century.. this is the best thing since sliced bread
and will set you back about $9.95 at Linens and Things... I just bought my
second one replacing the one I got as a shower present in 1978!
Martha
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/7/01 7:38 PM Pacific Standard Time
saying to Eva:>Hey honey, join the 21st century.. this is the best thing since
sliced bread
>and will set you back about $9.95 at Linens and Things... I just bought my
>second one replacing the one I got as a shower present in 1978!
>Martha
Now Marrrrtha...Eva can do just fine without a salad spinner. I don't have a
cell phone either,and I consider myself in the 21st century 8-)
MrsMeister
don't have a
>cell phone either,and I consider myself in the 21st century 8-)
Sharon.. big differencee between a cell phone and a salad spinner....I shun
cell phones myself but a salad spinner ( now actually somewhat of an antique
with the popularity of bagged salads) are trully a convenience. JMO, Martha
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/7/01 8:05 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Now my cell phone, that I can't live without!
See,I don't get that. But as joymolloy says,that's what makes us special and
unique 8-)
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/7/01 8:08 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Sharon.. big differencee between a cell phone and a salad spinner....I shun
>cell phones myself but a salad spinner ( now actually somewhat of an antique
>with the popularity of bagged salads) are trully a convenience. JMO, Martha
But if it is easier for Eva to get spinach in her diet to go without one,then I
say it isn't necessary. *I* find the salad spinner convenient,but her mileage
may vary.
suzilem
"Karen Kay" <ka...@wordwrite.com> wrote in message
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> MrsMeister <mrsme...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Hey honey, join the 21st century.. this is the best thing since sliced
bread
> > and will set you back about $9.95 at Linens and Things... I just bought
my
> > second one replacing the one I got as a shower present in 1978!
>
> space, and wouldn't own one.
>
Another alternative is to after washing your greens to take an oversized
dishtowel, put the leaves in a pile in the middle, grab the corners and
swing
it around your head in a circle like a slingshot. Works quite well at
quickly
draining excess water. And you can really annoy your cat. :-)
Once (many years ago) I had a huge pile of nicely washed lettuce that I put
into a wire mesh strainer and whooshed around in the air. Centrifugal
force does work. The water DID leave the lettuce leaves -- all OVER my
kitchen.....
Sue
Frankenmel
>Date: 1/7/01 8:55 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Another alternative is to after washing your greens to take an oversized
>dishtowel, put the leaves in a pile in the middle, grab the corners and
>swing
>it around your head in a circle like a slingshot. Works quite well at
>quickly
>draining excess water. And you can really annoy your cat. :-)
>
>Once (many years ago) I had a huge pile of nicely washed lettuce that I put
>into a wire mesh strainer and whooshed around in the air. Centrifugal
>force does work. The water DID leave the lettuce leaves -- all OVER my
>kitchen.....
>
>Sue
Sue,I would pay good money to see you do this!
gs
"MrsMeister" <mrsme...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I've never had a salad spinner.
Broke down a few months ago (6 months already!?!) and got a cell phone.
Actually, got two...one for us and one for 16 year old. We were wanting to
get out more, but worried about daughter. Solution! Cell phones. We don't
routinely use ours.
Now my daughter...she USES hers! How could these kids have survived in the
*olden days*? No call waiting, no caller ID, no answering machine, and...No
cell phone!
Modern conveniences sure put a new spin on teenage lives!
Found out something interesting...with ice storms. Cell phone didn't work!
This happened on more than one occasion.
Gwen
although she (daughter) has forgotten to call a few times
Louise Bremner
> Once (many years ago) I had a huge pile of nicely washed lettuce that I put
> into a wire mesh strainer and whooshed around in the air. Centrifugal
> force does work. The water DID leave the lettuce leaves -- all OVER my
> kitchen.....
That's what my mother used to say was my job. Outside.
Sandra Whiting
"Marilee" <mae...@polarcomm.com> wrote in message
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I shall never be able to use my salad spinner again without thoughts of
April clutching and cranking like a fiend. Like Marilee I also have a raised
knob...*splork*
Sandra
Laura Blanchard
>I think this is one of those YMMV things. I consider them a waste of
>space, and wouldn't own one.
You couldn't live with my kid, then. He got me one for Christmas the last time
he was east. I'd always thought they were a waste of space, too, but now I'm a
convert. Besides, you can always store stuff inside it, like pounds of beans or
something.
Regards,
Laura Blanchard
lblan...@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/lblanch000/
http://menopause.tripod.com (Land o'Links --
click the cormorant for Menopause & Beyond)
Laura Blanchard
>Now my daughter...she USES hers! How could these kids have survived in the
>*olden days*?
I had a young woman tell me, in all seriousness, that she *had* to have a cell
phone so that she could be an adequate parent of her one-year-old daughter.
Give me a break.
gs
"Laura Blanchard" <lblan...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Gwen asks:
>
> >Now my daughter...she USES hers! How could these kids have survived in
the
> >*olden days*?
>
> I had a young woman tell me, in all seriousness, that she *had* to have a
cell
> phone so that she could be an adequate parent of her one-year-old
daughter.
> Give me a break.
>
Why? Does the child have serious health problems, where a phone is needed at
all times?
More than likely, the mom is spending her time yakking on the phone rather
than spending time or giving attention to the child.
Modern Parenthood...grrr
Gwen
Laura Blanchard
>> I had a young woman tell me, in all seriousness, that she *had* to have a
>cell
>> phone so that she could be an adequate parent of her one-year-old daughter.
>> Give me a break.
>
>In what way would this make her an adequate parent?
>
In her case, it was so that she could gab on the phone to her friends while
taking her daughter to the park. *Snarl.*
MrsMeister
>In her case, it was so that she could gab on the phone to her friends while
>taking her daughter to the park. *Snarl.*
Ah yes, she must be friends with the women I see at the mall talking to their
friends while shopping... give me a gun!
Martha
MrsMeister
>What's wrong with this? (I only did this once--my brother happened to
>phone me when I buying his Christmas present, which was VERY
>embarrassing.)
>
You know I have tried to figure out why cell phone calls bother me so much and
I think its because I consider it an invasion of my space. When Im in the
grocery store , I dont want to overhear someone's private conversation. And
most of the time you cannot avoid it because people are speaking louder than
they normally would. I recently had lunch out with a friend and she took three
calls while we were supposedly visiting .. none were of earth shattering
importance. It pissed me off. Im just behind the times and not used to it yet.
I have a cell phone but use it only for logistics regarding car pooling, etc..
Martha <-- most of all likes being inaccessible
Pat Kight
> Hi Sharon, I don't think we've met before. I've read a few of the
> messages here from the past month... and (if I'm correct) I've deduced
> that you live, I mean, work, under the Burnside Bridge... ;-) (We went
> shopping at Saturday Market on Christmas Eve day -- the only fun place
> to shop on that day of the year.)
>
> >Sharon..*.eat your fruits and veggies and exercise daily*
>
> I think I like your philosophy. :-)
>
> Lianne
> (a fellow Portlandian, sort of.)
Hey, Liane (she says, belatedly) - welcome back! Been to any good
concerts lately?
--Pat Kight
kig...@peak.org