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Larry D. Walker

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Aug 29, 2001, 4:10:20 PM8/29/01
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This may sound like a funny question but a friend of ours, age 25, was
told she has Lupus. I have had Lupus for the past three years and doing good
working with my doctor. I had one bad flare about three months ago and not
knowing what it
was a little bit scared but now doing fine.
What I had in question was this friends daughter is going to a
Chiropractor who said he could put it in remission and they believe this.
Has anyone heard of this?
Personally I have a hard time believing this but I could be wrong as I'm
not a big believer in bone crushers.

Larry Walker


BJ

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Aug 29, 2001, 4:42:01 PM8/29/01
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Hi Larry,
It sounds like a crock to me. It is also a bit worrisome. I have been to a
chiropractor for a back problem and have not had much luck. He knows I have
lupus and has never made claims about curing or even helping with that. In
fact he treats me with more caution. There have been a couple of cases in
Canada where very young patients died of a stroke after neck adjustments.
They died right there in the office. It should be approached with caution.
BJ
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ruth tay

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Aug 29, 2001, 8:12:01 PM8/29/01
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In article <M_bj7.2981$KV3.2...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

Hi Larry, Don't you just get tired getting this advice from well-meaning
people who wan't to wish your lupus away. i go to a chiroprator who also
does acupuncture and re aligns my hip now and then. He is knowledgeable
and studies all the time and says no way can he do anything for lupus. Just
getting over a flare but it looks like smooth sailing soon
Best of luck Ruth

SCroyle909

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Aug 29, 2001, 10:29:10 PM8/29/01
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<< What I had in question was this friends daughter is going to a
Chiropractor who said he could put it in remission and they believe this.
Has anyone heard of this?>>

I think you're very right to be concerned. A chiropractor isn't qualified to
treat lupus, nor is there any grounds to believe that chiropractic treatments
could put lupus in remission. He's playing games with her life. I hope she
goes to see a real doctor and stops listening to this guy.

Sandra

Kelly Ostlund

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Aug 30, 2001, 12:34:23 AM8/30/01
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Maybe she should try yoga, it is so great and raises your energy levels.

Kelly

Andy

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Aug 30, 2001, 10:43:23 AM8/30/01
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In article <M_bj7.2981$KV3.2...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

Larry D. Walker <larry...@worldnet.att.net> wrote
I'd say that the best they could expect would be that he doesn't make it
worse. However, it could work like faith healing: it might relieve
stress and hence reduce the flare level.
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KCat

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Aug 30, 2001, 2:19:42 PM8/30/01
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 20:10:20 GMT, "Larry D. Walker"
<larry...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> What I had in question was this friends daughter is going to a
>Chiropractor who said he could put it in remission and they believe this.
>Has anyone heard of this?
> Personally I have a hard time believing this but I could be wrong as I'm
>not a big believer in bone crushers.
>
>Larry Walker

Echoing what others have said. Chiropractic medicine has is values.
But putting someone in remission is highly unlikely IMO. Still, if
she feels *better* doing this then you can't knock that aspect of it.
But it shouldn't be her only treatment plan. There is a popular
"Chiropractic Internist" in this area that many people swear by - he
"prescribes" dozens of very expensive OTC supplements for his
patients. I've heard his method of diagnosis and it doesn't ring true
for me. *but* the people that do see him regularly believe he is
helping them and therefore I wouldn't say don't see him. I would say,
don't rely totally on this guy for complete treatment though. Maybe
I'm wrong - maybe there's a lot we just don't know about how the mind
works and how the body works in controlling immune system function.

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SCroyle909

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Aug 31, 2001, 12:03:44 AM8/31/01
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I have to say I'm not completely against chiropractors. In fact, it was a
chiropractor who fixed a neck problem I suffered intensely with for many years.
Therefore, I can honestly say that I do think they have their place.

However, I personally wouldn't advocate going to one who makes such wild claims
about what chiropractic can accomplish. There are others who are more
realistic about what it can and can't do.

Before I ever saw one myself, we researched them to fine one who didn't believe
chiropractic could cure everything, and who also did gentle manipulations.
Violent jerking and twisting can actually cause dissection of an artery. My
husband, a physician, says he's seen it happen before. In any case, I think
it's important to be seeing someone you can trust.

Sandra


Nicole H.

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Aug 31, 2001, 5:33:49 AM8/31/01
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Remission? Wow! LOL! I do use a chiropractor & massage therapist (along
w/my regular dr) When I'm faithful to my chiropractor appts, I do have more
energy and hurt less. The massages hurt like heck then feel better.
I've had good experience with my chiropractor but he doesn't claim to cure
me. He does say he can help and he does that!

Take care
Nicole
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Nicole H.

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Aug 31, 2001, 5:37:00 AM8/31/01
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This is true but people die because of medical drs too. I'm not defending
chiros but it's not fair to label them as dangerous. About the neck
adjustments, there is some "test" the dr should perform before a neck is
adjusted. I absolutely love when my neck is adjusted. Feels so good!!!!
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Marvin Nelson

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Sep 1, 2001, 8:58:25 AM9/1/01
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Larry,

I became familiar with this type of claims while in college. One of my
professors was on a national chiropracty accredidation board. Most of the
main stream chiropractic schools limit their claims of relief, but "true
believers" believe that all illnesses are caused by spinal misalignment
(subluxation I believe is the word) hence they believe that proper alignment
can cure cancers, heart disease, a cold or flu, or whatever. By the way,
my professor's board did not accredidate such schools but they still exist.
You will find individual chiropractors vary just where they are on the scale
of what chiropracty can do for you. Find one with which you are
comfortable.

Best Wishes,
Marv


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Silentmovielover

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Sep 10, 2001, 10:08:35 PM9/10/01
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Actually I am so glad someone else has brought this up. I have been seeing a
chiropractor now for a month or so and she swears she can cure FM and lupus
through adjustments and vitamin supplements (something about malic acid and
magnesium--has anyone else heard this?) but after paying through the nose and
seeing very little relief I am giving it up for more traditional treatments.
When I was suffering from migraines in college chiropractic did do wonders,
though. But I am suspicious of anyone who claims they can cure me--reminds me
of the snake oil treatments my mother used to receive for her multiple
sclerosis.

Sarah

SCroyle909

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Sep 12, 2001, 10:24:05 PM9/12/01
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<<
Actually I am so glad someone else has brought this up. I have been seeing a
chiropractor now for a month or so and she swears she can cure FM and lupus
through adjustments and vitamin supplements (something about malic acid and
magnesium--has anyone else heard this?) but after paying through the nose and
seeing very little relief I am giving it up for more traditional treatments. >>

You're right to be suspicious of anyone who claims to be able to cure lupus,
especially through chiropractic treatments. Those kind of claims used to be
very common from chiropractors. They believed such things with an almost
religious zeal, accepting those ideas more on faith than on the basis of any
true scientific findings. It's one of the reasons chiropractors weren't well
respected by physicians. These days, as far as I know, most chiropractors
don't buy into such unfounded ideas. They can also be very helpful with things
like whiplash. I went to one myself for a whiplash injury and was extremely
pleased with the results. You might want to consider switching to one of the
more modern type yourself. Just be sure to okay everything through your
rheumatologist and/or PCP first, and don't quit taking lupus meds or add more
meds (even if "only" herbal) on the say-so of a chiropractor. It's important
because herbal remedies can interact with other medications and have
unexpected, sometimes dangerous effects.

Sandra

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May 14, 2013, 2:27:44 PM5/14/13
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While I chiropractic treatment can be a useful aid, I don't believe it has the ability to cure the body. I did however, see a chiropractor in Salt Lake City http://slcchiro.com/ for prenatal adjustments that really helped relieve the discomforts of pregnancy.
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