I also remember the occasional jockstrap being on the floor in the shower
room after PE (I had it first period after the football players practiced).
I still have the ONE I had the balls to swipe.
Musta been Gunny. }: )
Cheese ... I don't know what some high school gym teachers are thinking.
Wait; I do know. They are thinking that everyone is like them and responds
best to strict discipline, being made to wear uncomfortable and
embarassing sports equipment, and beimng forced to play stupid sports. The
idea that a kid may be uninterested in playing sports never enters their
minds ... and when it does, is treated as a sign of antisocial pathology.
Hey, anybody remember "Squat thrust"? Turns out that it's amazingly
harmful to the knees and nobody does it any more.
Timberwoof; mroeder<at>best<dot>com; http://www.best.com/~mroeder
Ice Hockey QA Engineer (Goalie), 1998 BMW R1100GS rider, and
not your ordinary noncomformist. "You may have the right to say that,
but I will defend to the death my right to disagree."
Yes, Michael I remember them. My freshman year PE teacher loved to have us do
I agree with Timberwoof, that the guy had problems. There should be no
reason fo require a class to wear a cup while running track other than
punishment! Betcha the guy
ha a grin on his face, watching the boys
suffer thru the laps.
I think the calisthentics were common in the 60's as part of President
fitness program, We suffered thru about
8 to 10 minutes of them every day we didn't swim.
Squat-thrusts? No sweat. We had to do
reps of deep knee bends, and a dumb routine
called duck walking. Now just think what
an orthopaedic doctor would say about that!
It is a miricle that I still have knee ligiments.
A couple of PE teachers in my HS had a
more favorite exercise for us called the
rocking chair. We had to lay face down on the gym floor, hands behind
our necks, then
rock back and forth repeatedly, raising our
legs and chests as high as we could off the floor. This tended to
crunch your nuts wearing
your jock, but I cringe to imagine what it would
have felt like wearing a cup, especially when
they sometimes got "out of adjustment"
NJ Hockey Player
Although we didn't wear cups, we did wear jocks. We also had
calisthenics as a regular part of our classes. And we ran laps fairly
Nowadays even joggers do 'stretches' and 'warming up exercises.'
Millions of people participate in 'aerobics,' and the latest fad,
'kung fubics.' Music or not, it's still calisthenics to me.
I think your colleagues who had 'the jerk' as their instructor ended
up with more -physical- education than you did.
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:20:16 -0500 (CDT), Frat...@webtv.net
(FraterBOB) wrote (in part):
>Cups were required in my HS, by one gym teacher. We had two older but
>popular PE teachers, who cared less if you wore a jock, or showered or
>even participated. About all they did was see that you wore your uniform,
>and took attendence.
>About the second day of
>class the school hired this gung ho, ex military
>creep to be the third PE teacher, since we had
>about 100 guys in each class. They divided
>the class by having the guys count off in three's.
>...Worse yet, he made his group do 10
>minutes of calisthenics at the beginning of each class. We would be
> It seems that your school had only 1 PE instructor worthy of the
> Although we didn't wear cups, we did wear jocks. We also had
> calisthenics as a regular part of our classes. And we ran laps fairly
> Nowadays even joggers do 'stretches' and 'warming up exercises.'
Is there a problem with ordinary people streching and warming up before
calisthenics? Professional athletes, and serious amateurs who know what
they're doing, do that all the time. So why the single quote marks?
> Millions of people participate in 'aerobics,' and the latest fad,
> 'kung fubics.' Music or not, it's still calisthenics to me.
I agree that controlling weight is a mater of discipline, and yet people
will move from fad to fad, losing interest and gaining back those five
pounds every six weeks.
> I think your colleagues who had 'the jerk' as their instructor ended
> up with more -physical- education than you did.
But to what good end, except to teach a lot of kids that exercise is a
bore and a waste of time favored by jerks who teach school as though it
were marine boot camp?
> Like they say in the Marine Corps...It's builds character!!!..sounds
> like your Military guy knew how to make men out of you boys!!
> Gunny Aldea//
Gunny, you can be such a jerk sometimes. On what pedagogical or
psychological theory do you base your ideas of the transformation of boys
into men? Anything other than tradition and the notion that if it was good
enough for you, your dad, and your dad's dad, then it's good enough for
> > >...Worse yet, he made his group do 10
> > >minutes of calisthenics at the beginning of each class. We would be
> > >playing vollyball or basketball, and his class had to form in platoon
formation and sweat
> > >out jumping jacks, and situps and stuff. In good weather, he made
> > >the guys run the mile, cups in place!
What kinds of cups do you wear?
Many sport cups are really uncomfortable, and since few people (except
here) seem willing to talk about cups or compare them, most are unaware
that a variety exist. And for many Dads who grew up with the flat cups,
the huge ones Bike sells seem scary or something.
And then there's us special guys who like cups just because. :-)
I wore a cup as a fraternity pledge, I find them
erotic, and in fact am packing plastic as I type
Nevertheless, I challange the intentions and
actions of the 9th grade PE teacher. You might
be right that his class benefited from achieving
better fitness from the daily cals., but his demands contrasted so
dramatically from those
of his fellow teachers, that it left a negative
taste for PE and exercise on his students.
Hey, a third of the guys in the locker room were in his section, an I
can still visualize a couple
of my friends opening their lockers, and
peeling their jock and cup off of their sweaty
crotches and chafed thighs, after having completed calesthentics and a
times mile run, in 80 degree weather.
Sure, a cup in PE for dodge ball, wresting
or even a few of the sports we played might
have had merit. Nevertheless, I challange
you or any other thread reader to explain the
reason or benefit derived from requiring
the class to wear them for daily class activity,
including calesthentics and runnng!
> Jay>What kinds of cups do you wear?
> I have the standard issue bike cup. And the daddy of cups the banana cup. I
> love the way the Banana cup fits.
A Banana cup is what I wear playing hockey. I've got several of them...
(To go with my goalie jocks. :-)
When baseball/softball season rolled around, or was about to, my Dad and I went
and got me a real decent bat and glove and of course neatsfoot oil for the
glove, but the SOB never once mentioned cups. I know its stupid but I am still
kinda pissed off about the fact that HE didn't, the school didn't, and the guy
at the sporting goods store didn't even do the traditional taking me, my dad,
or both of us aside quietly and explaining the whys and wherefores of the
birds, bees, and balls that hit you in the nuts real hard and how to minimize
consequences of the latter. I got hit once, maybe twice, and I distinctly
remember thinking $%^&**((@@$$%%^^& THIS (after the traditional crawling around
on the ground on all fours while BOTH sides are laughing their guts out) and
wondering whether I was going to just throw up, do something worse, or just
You'd THINK the frigging gym teacher at least, after the first incident, would
have taek me aside and told me to get a cup, if only to protect my youknowwhats
while they healed up. Hell, he should have GIVEN me one specially after the
Oddly enough, I was dressing out either early or late one day after my shower,
and while getting my street clothes on, these other two guys a few locker
aisles down were making some racket and I walked over to check it out. One
guy's got his socks and jock on and is putting the rest of the ensemble on,
while his buddy is just in his cup jock which he apparently just bought or his
Dad bought for him, and he already had the cup snapped in place in the pouch,
which appeared to be made of plastic rather than fabric. I can't imagine how
or why that would be more comfortable than a cup/jock with a fabric pouch (and
some holes in the cup for whatever good they do....), but I have always
regretted not asking him where he got it and getting one myself and trying oone
Anyhow in Junior HS/ Middle School, only the organized sports teams HAD to wear
groin protection of at least a jock (Basketball, I think we had VB too, and
tennis) or a jock/cup (football, baseball; the soccer team wore those funny
'soft' cup/jock deals, I think). Actually those soft cup/jock setups ought to
have been a good idea for basketball and volleyball, too. I've worn em and
they're hardly more noticeable than just a plain jock.
Wrestling, football, and baseball all required cups in both JHS and high
school. It was kinda hot seeing the profile of the cup showing from the crotch
of the wrestler's singlet or from a football player's tight uniform or practice
pants. My college roomie was a wrestler in a nearby HS and he told me they made
them wear cups there to, but he bitched that they impeded manouverability.
Seems to me I'd much rather wear a cup, be a little less nimble, and not have
some stranger with evil intent grabbing by b***s.