arm herpes
Sue Dachs
the shouler, for the past 4 years or so, 3 or 4 times a week, my doctor does
not seem to have any information for me as to whether it is HSv1 or 2 but I
am responding to famvil, does this mean i have HSV2? and how would i get it
on my arm? I have never had it anywhere else, except maybe around my mouth
when i was a kid. Does anyone have any information or know of any links that
can help me? i am desperate for some info.
Thanks
SD
cocoabean
treatment for herpes, that does not tell you which strain you
have. You should ask your doc to culture the sore when it has
just come up. That way you will know....or get a western blot
blood test run, that will also tell you.
A culture must be done when the sore is new, if you wait till it
is starting to heal, they might not get enough virus to run the
test properly.
Herpes can appear anywhere on the body, it can follow nerves.
Take care,
Denise
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xs10sual
Dear Sue, and others,
Sue Dachs wrote in message ...
>I experience herpes symptoms on my arm, same spot, on my upper arm beneath
>the shouler, for the past 4 years or so, 3 or 4 times a week, my doctor
does
>not seem to have any information for me as to whether it is HSv1 or 2 but I
>am responding to famvil, does this mean i have HSV2?
I have had HSV2 for more than 30 years. It ALWAYS breaks out on the palm of
my left hand.
However, it STARTS (I start to feel it) somewhere in the vicinity of my
small-pox vaccination. It is my personal belief that the smallpox vacc. is
what caused it...and that no one is talking about the 'connection' (at least
not the government!).
The 'virus' then travels down (the nerve in) my arm (from my vacc. spot),
which makes the surface skin VERY sensitive and sore. Then, it 'dives'
beneath the surface near my wrist, where after about 24 hours it pops-up
(and out) on my palm.
I tried Famvir and Zovirax (sp?)...Anyway, they both about killed me...I'm
allergic to both. So, I am using Red Marine Algae, and another 'topical'
called Choraphor. Read about both of them at this site:
>and how would i get it
>on my arm?
My doctors have always said that it is very common to get it on the
arm/hand...especially if one is at all involved in the 'medical' field. (I
presume he meant that one can have an open cut on their hand and while
treating an already infected patient, acquire it that way).
>I have never had it anywhere else, except maybe around my mouth
>when i was a kid. Does anyone have any information or know of any links
that
>can help me? i am desperate for some info.
I HIGHLY suggest you try the Red Marine Algae (go to the aforementioned
site)...It's great stuff! Works wonders for the pre-breakout symptomology
as well.
Good Luck!
xs10sual
PS: Also, the Homeopathic remedy "Rhus Tox" does wonders to relieve itching
and soreness...also helps one get over the outbreak faster.
>
>Thanks
>SD
xs10sual
Whoever you are, Smegma...why don't you just "get over it"?
Sme3120 (Smegma) wrote
>>From: "xs10sual"
>
>>However, it STARTS (I start to feel it) somewhere in the vicinity of my
>>small-pox vaccination. It is my personal belief that the smallpox vacc.
is
>>what caused it...and that no one is talking about the 'connection' (at
least
>>not the government!).
>Smegma wrote:
>I have never seen anything to indicate that smallpox is in any way related
to
>herpes. It is also not transmitted through blood products, so getting it
>through a smallpox vaccination seems highly unlikely. And how is the
government
>involved, exactly??
Did I saw *how* it was 'transmitted? No...YOU did.
I only said I suspect (it is my personal belief) that they are related
(small pox and herpes). I don't care if you don't think they are - that's
your right and I respect it. Also, FYI, I am a medical practitioner. I am
highly suspicious of the quality of ALL vaccinations, esp. those which were
given during the 1950's and 60's. I am also highly suspicious of the
'governments' CURRENT involvement in all or any of the MASS vaccination
'projects' (not to mention the ongoing 'Anthrax' vaccinations). I have a
right to my own feelings, intuitions and belief's, AND the right to express
them on this newsgroup. Thank you.
>
> >The 'virus' then travels down (the nerve in) my arm (from my vacc.
>spot),....
>
>You really need to educate yourself a little more on this. The herpes virus
>resides in the ganglia, NOT in a smallpox vaccination scar.
This is what I have to say to you, Smegma..."Duh". I suspected an idiot
like you might respond in this way. I (wrongly) assumed that all of the
members of this newsgroup were INTELLIGENT enough to know what I meant when
I said:
"The 'virus' then travels down (the nerve in) my arm (from my vacc.
spot.)" meaning:
"The 'virus' travels down my arm within the nerve therein; from where "I
start to feel" the virus, i.e.,"in THE AREA OF my vacc. spot". When I
'feel' it there, in my arm, it is a 'signal' to me that I am about to have
an outbreak.
I only said that this is where "I start to feel it", NOT that it is the
origin of the virus. Sorry I didn't take IDIOTS into consideration when I
posted my email. I guess I made an ASS out of YOU and ME. My apologies
for assuming EVERYONE in the newsgroup is half-way intelligent. I certainly
hope that YOU don't represent the majority of persons posting
here....(sigh).[in breath: patience, tolerance, compassion, humility;
outbreath: hope, love, grace and passion.]
xs10sual
xs10sual wrote >
>
>Whoever you are, Smegma...why don't you just "get over it"?
Oops! I apologize...I meant "Whomever you are, Smegma."
xs10sual
Dear Sue,
Sme3120 said:
>Famvir also is effective against shingles (variella zoster, another herpes
>virus). Why not get a blood test to find out what you have? (-:
Be VERY cautious if you choose to try "Famvir" or "Zovirax"....Famvir
caused me to have a stroke, and I am in my 40's! It temporarily paralyzed
and benumbed one side of my body. Personally, I'd avoid it like the plague!
Go here!:
Try Red Marine Algae...it's safe, it's natural, and IT WORKS..without
the nasty side effects of Famvir and Zovirax. You may email me personally
for more information on how to handle herpes by using 'alternative'
medicines, such as Homeopathy.
Regards,
xs10sual
PS: Check out the link...ASAP! You won't be disappointed if you decide NOT
to follow the herd, but to think and act "outside the herd"....
cocoabeany
on this newsgroup at all.
You say this:
>.[in breath: patience, tolerance, compassion, humility;
outbreath: hope, love, grace and passion.] <
and also say this:
>..."Duh". I suspected an idiot like you might respond in this
way. I (wrongly) assumed that all of the members of this
newsgroup were INTELLIGENT enough to know what I meant <
and
>I didn't take IDIOTS into consideration when I posted my email<
Expressing your views is fine (we aren't required to agree, and
can express that view), calling someone who disagrees with you
names is uncessary.
so much for patience, tolerance, grace....et al.
sheesh,
Sme3120
>However, it STARTS (I start to feel it) somewhere in the vicinity of my
>small-pox vaccination. It is my personal belief that the smallpox vacc. is
>what caused it...and that no one is talking about the 'connection' (at least
>not the government!).
I have never seen anything to indicate that smallpox is in any way related to
herpes. It is also not transmitted through blood products, so getting it
through a smallpox vaccination seems highly unlikely. And how is the government
involved, exactly??
>The 'virus' then travels down (the nerve in) my arm (from my vacc.
Sme3120
>I experience herpes symptoms on my arm, same spot, on my upper arm beneath
>the shouler, for the past 4 years or so, 3 or 4 times a week, my doctor does
>not seem to have any information for me as to whether it is HSv1 or 2 but I
>am responding to famvil, does this mean i have HSV2? and how would i get it
>on my arm? I have never had it anywhere else, except maybe around my mouth
>when i was a kid. Does anyone have any information or know of any links that
>can help me? i am desperate for some info.
>
>Thanks
>SD
xs10sual
WEB LINK to RMA (Red Marine Algae) at www.alphazee.com/a/algae/algae.html or
www.Dynamune.com
RMA is a safe, effective alternative to Allopathic DRUGS.
Go natural, all the way! You're body will love you for it!
Yoshi2Me said:
>>From: "xs10sual"
>
>> Be VERY cautious if you choose to try "Famvir" or "Zovirax"....Famvir
>>caused me to have a stroke, and I am in my 40's!
>
>Uh..... sorry to hear that you had a stroke.
>Doesn't mean everybody else will.
No, Yosh, not everyone WILL, but SOME DO!! And I 'care' about people...and
will continue to alert them to DRUGS that may cause great harm...especially
when there are ALTERNATIVES which are much safer, have been proven
EXTREMELEY effective, and that I know will LIMIT SUFFERING.
There's no need for ANYone, walking in the dark, to 'walk off a cliff'; if I
can see it and warn them in time.
(BTW, Yosh, it's obvious you're NOT AT ALL 'SORRY' for me - so you can quit
with the facetious behavior.)
>
>> It temporarily paralyzed
>>and benumbed one side of my body. Personally, I'd avoid it like the
plague!
>
>That's too terribly bad for you.
F**k off, Yosh.
>Sorry to hear that you are having troubles with the meds.
YEAH, right!
>Maybe you should try encouraging folks to seek advice from their med
>professionals instead of sending them to websites that are not credited to
much
>of anything?
I will continue to 'encourage' folks to check out places where I KNOW they
can get REAL help.
I don't at all advise people to use Famvir or Zovirax. God Only Knows who
kind of effects these highly toxic poisons will have...
>
>> Try Red Marine Algae...it's safe, it's natural, and IT WORKS..
>
>Just because it's natural doesn't mean that it's safe. You should know
this..
How True, Yoshi! 'You' are a product of nature...and no one is safe around
'you'!
>
>>without
>>the nasty side effects of Famvir and Zovirax.
>
>There are possible side effects that not everybody experiences.
Again, not everyone will experiece these side effects (I sincerely hope);
but if I had known about these 'side effects' BEFORE taking Famvir and
Zovirax, I might have been more able to recognize them as ACTUAL side
effects of the drugs, instead of wondering *why* I was suddenly having
'stroke' symptoms!
>(Yoshi continued, saying:)
>Maybe as a medical person you could stand to do some more homework?
>
Show me a person who doesn't need "more homework"
..the BEST Teachers remain Students Forever.
Y.T.,
xs10sual
PS: The previous URL I gave out: http://www.apothx.com/ has been changed to:
www.Dynamune.com .Check it out - for more information about treating HSV's!
John Bailey
xs10sual wrote in message <8c5qap$5alk$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>...
>>(Yoshi continued, saying:)
>>Maybe as a medical person you could stand to do some more homework?
>>
>Show me a person who doesn't need "more homework"
>..the BEST Teachers remain Students Forever.
>Y.T.,
They also remain polite - because other wise their students stop listening
to them
John Bailey
xs10sual wrote in message <8c3rd2$7520$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>...
>loads of stuff snipped
> Smegma...why don't you just "get over it"?
>
>
>This is what I have to say to you, Smegma..."Duh". I suspected an idiot
>like you might respond in this way. I (wrongly) assumed that all of the
>members of this newsgroup were INTELLIGENT enough to know what I meant when
>
> I guess I made an ASS out of YOU and ME. My apologies
>for assuming EVERYONE in the newsgroup is half-way intelligent. I
certainly
>hope that YOU don't represent the majority of persons posting
>here....(sigh).[in breath: patience, tolerance, compassion, humility;
>outbreath: hope, love, grace and passion.]
>
Well you are certainly making an ass of yourself - perhaps you could try
learning some manners before you repost?
GUYonphone
<xs10...@prodigy.net> writes:
> Be VERY cautious if you choose to try "Famvir" or "Zovirax"....Famvir
>caused me to have a stroke, and I am in my 40's! It temporarily paralyzed
>and benumbed one side of my body. Personally, I'd avoid it like the plague!
Hello?????
Earth to xs. Earth to xs!
Avoid a medication "like the plague" that's been expressly invented, tested
over more than 20 years, and effective in the treatment of herpes? Because YOU
had an alergic reaction (or, whatever)? For each one of you, there are 1000
who might be reading this NG that could gain immeasurable relief from any of
the prescription meds. Shoot, I'd crawl over hot lava to get to my docs office
for a prescription for any of the antivirals if I for sure wanted to avoid the
symptoms of herpes based on the relief they provide me!
Exactly how are you connected to the medical field, may I ask? And hey! Your
first name wouldn't be Mike, would it?
Hang in there
-G
GUYonphone
<xs10...@prodigy.net> writes:
>I guess I made an ASS out of YOU and ME.
The most inappropriate response in this thread is the one that included this
sentence. We can all disagree with anything and everything...but we *should*
be able to do it without calling each other names.
And the items in the breath? Perhaps you may want to work on some of those a
bit more prior to assuming you have them to expel.
Hang in there
-G
GUYonphone
<xs10...@prodigy.net> writes:
>I have had HSV2 for more than 30 years. It ALWAYS breaks out on the palm of
>my left hand.
Just curios here...
How was it determined that what you have in your arm/hand is herpes simplex?
And the typing? How was that done?
Thanks for any further info
Hang in there
-G
M.L.S.
posted:
>xs10sual wrote in message <8c5qap$5alk$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>...
>>>(Yoshi continued, saying:)
>>>Maybe as a medical person you could stand to do some more homework?
>>Show me a person who doesn't need "more homework"
>>..the BEST Teachers remain Students Forever.
>They also remain polite - because other wise their students stop listening
>to them
And it's probably not good for sales, either, I would imagine. I
wouldn't buy a thing from this guy.
Truly yours,
Mike
cocoabeany
I stopped reading Mr. xs's posts just because of the rude
attitude. Those types of posts are unwelcome in this forum.
I would hate to think that this person would act like that in
person (or at work as a medical professional), if so, I would
run like heck from that office. But hey, I need the excercise.
D
GUYonphone
<xs10...@prodigy.net> writes:
<snip>
>and
>will continue to alert them to DRUGS that may cause great harm...especially
>when there are ALTERNATIVES which are much safer, have been proven
>EXTREMELEY effective, and that I know will LIMIT SUFFERING.
<snip>
And so, can you please provide the abstracts for these statements of *proof*.
I'd be extremely interested in reading them. Hopefully, they'll be from
independant laboratories not connected with the manufacturers... as tests
provided by the manufacturer *could* be slightly biased, eh?
<snip>
>I might have been more able to recognize them as ACTUAL side
>effects of the drugs, instead of wondering *why* I was suddenly having
>'stroke' symptoms!
<snip>
Ahhhh... 'stroke' symptoms'? or a stroke? You said stroke before. Or, were you
just having stroke symptoms? Was an actual "stroke" diagnosed as such? (you
know...by a fellow medical professional?)
Hang in there
-G
Yoshi2Me
>Ahhhh... 'stroke' symptoms'? or a stroke? You said stroke before. Or, were
>you
>just having stroke symptoms? Was an actual "stroke" diagnosed as such? (you
>know...by a fellow medical professional?)
Guy....... actually I don't think that "stroke" falls into this particular
category. I think it's more along the lines of the "PITA syndrome"
:)
-Yosh*
XdcrLab
>first name wouldn't be Mike, would it?
>
>Hang in there
>-G
No Guy it wouldn't. I see your not above starting another round of lies,
filling in for April these days?
Mike
M.L.S.
posted:
<half-way intelligent snip>
> My apologies
>for assuming EVERYONE in the newsgroup is half-way intelligent. I certainly
>hope that YOU don't represent the majority of persons posting
>here....(sigh).[in breath: patience, tolerance, compassion, humility;
>outbreath: hope, love, grace and passion.]
Isn't there a clinical name for the kind of mental disconnect
evidenced in the passage above?
Just wondering.
Mike
Yoshi2Me
>On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:45:13 -0800, "xs10sual" <xs10...@prodigy.net>
>posted:
><half-way intelligent snip>
>
Only half-way? I wouldn't go that far!!!
:)
>> My
>apologies
>>for assuming EVERYONE in the newsgroup is half-way intelligent. I certainly
>>hope that YOU don't represent the majority of persons posting
>>here....(sigh).[in breath: patience, tolerance, compassion, humility;
>>outbreath: hope, love, grace and passion.]
>
>Isn't there a clinical name for the kind of mental disconnect
>evidenced in the passage above?
>Just wondering.
>Mike
Yea there is a clinical name!
It's the P-I-T-A syndrome, haven't you heard?
-Yosh*
GUYonphone
(XdcrLab) writes:
>No Guy it wouldn't. I see your not above starting another round of lies,
>filling in for April these days?
Hey Mike.
Nope, the dude/dudette just appeared to be as ornery as you've been in the
past. No offense of course! ::angelic smile::
Hang in there
-G
karen
>I don't at all advise people to use Famvir or Zovirax. God Only Knows who
kind of effects these highly toxic poisons will have...<
snipped from earlier post by same author:
>PS: Also, the Homeopathic remedy "Rhus Tox" does wonders to relieve
itching
and soreness...also helps one get over the outbreak faster.<
**** gee, Rhus Tox, a homeopathic remedy or another poison? Isn't that what
homeopathy is, introducing poisons into the body to force a reaction? And
that's safer than a drug that's been tested for years and approved by the
FDA? Ha, I'll stick with my Famvir thank you very much.
K
xs10sual
Hi John...et al,
John Bailey said:
>
>Well you are certainly making an ass of yourself - perhaps you could try
>learning some manners before you repost?
>
this IS the MANNER I choose, Thank you anyway. ;^) If it takes making an
ASS out of YOU and ME, to get my point across...well, it doesn't bother me
any. If it bothers you, then perhaps YOU have some issues with being
ASS-LIKE.
Besides, there's no more time to 'coddle' people...TIME to GET REAL.
(_x_)
xs10sual
XdcrLab
>
>Nope, the dude/dudette just appeared to be as ornery as you've been in the
>past. No offense of course! ::angelic smile::
>
>Hang in there
>-G
Offense taken(cute side quips have their limit), you could easily have checked
with me before casting about false dispersions. As for ornery I'd say orders
of magnitude dif.
Mike
xs10sual
GUYonphone wrote:
The most inappropriate response in this thread is the one that included this
sentence. We can all disagree with anything and everything...but we
*should*
be able to do it without calling each other names.
(Oh, *SHOULD* we? Perhaps you *SHOULD* have said: IMHO?)
><snip>
>And the items in the breath? Perhaps you may want to work on some of those
a
>bit more prior to assuming you have them to expel. Hang in there -G
OH YEAH, Guy? At least I CAN admit I'm 'flawed' too, just like the rest of
you.
I guess only 'perfect' people, (like you, apparently) are arrogant and
self-righteous enough to
THROW STONES without conscience. At least I admit I'm an Ass (when I'm
being one). I don't presume that my 'humility' is an excuse to THROW STONES
at other people, without checking myself out first...
xs10sual
GUYonphone wrote
><xs10...@prodigy.net> writes:
>
>>I have had HSV2 for more than 30 years. It ALWAYS breaks out on the palm
of
>>my left hand.
>
>Just curios here...
I agree....just 'curios' here!
>
>How was it determined that what you have in your arm/hand is herpes
simplex?
Why do you want to know? If you are serious I will tell you. If you are
not, and simply being sarcastic and demeaning...then piss off.
>And the typing? How was that done?
You've heard of 'automatic' writing? 'My' fingers NEVER touch the keyboard!
(Just doin' my job).
>
>Thanks for any further info
You're welcome,
xs
>
>Hang in there
>-G
xs10sual
John Bailey wrote in message ...
>
>xs10sual wrote in message
>>Show me a person who doesn't need "more homework"
>>..the BEST Teachers remain Students Forever.
>>xs
>>(edit by xs)
>
>
John Bailey (Grasshopper) also wrote:
>They also remain polite - because other wise their students stop listening
>to them
Grasshopper, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. If the
'students' stop listening, well, that's THEIR problem and THEIR loss. The
teacher isn't 'losing' anything; however, the student could incur heavy
losses for not 'hanging in there'. You may want to read "Autobiography of a
Yogi" by Paramahansa Yogananda. Especially the parts regarding his
'tutelage' under his teacher, Sri Yukteswar, and HIS teacher, Lahiri
Mahasaya.
A real teacher leaves it ALL up to the student (the decision to
'listen', 'stay', or 'leave'). Are you at all familiar with Eastern
philosophy? There are times during meditation when it is the teacher's
responsibility to do anything and everything he can to alert and/or reawaken
his student to the lesson at hand. Sometimes those lessons 'hurt'. But, it
is for the student's well-being, and both the student and the teacher know
this. This is how the student learns. Eastern philosophy is alot like the
Marine Corps - they never coddle their 'recruits' either. Both institutions
prepare their students for life and death situations, and these lessons are
never things to take lightly.
You sound like an intelligent person. You understand about
'co-dependency' right? Would anyone really learn anything if everyone was
'nice' to them? Many people have become very 'set' in their ways...too
'comfortable', and because of it, they are going Nowhere...(and taking alot
of other people with them).
A REMINDER FOR ALL: We are here on this planet TO ADVANCE (which means,
literally, "to go forward"). Lose those old ways, old bad habits...and
acquire GOOD habits in their stead. Stick with me and you just might learn
something... Evolvement of the 'Self' is like chewing iron ball bearings,
not JELLY BEANS!
Blessings,
xs10sual
>
>
xs10sual
M.L.S. wrote in message ...
><snip>
>> xs10sual said:
>>My apologies
>>for assuming EVERYONE in the newsgroup is half-way intelligent. I
certainly
>>hope that YOU don't represent the majority of persons posting
>>here....(sigh).[in breath: patience, tolerance, compassion, humility;
>>outbreath: hope, love, grace and passion.]
>
>Isn't there a clinical name for the kind of mental disconnect
>evidenced in the passage above?
Dear "Just wondering, Mike",
Sometimes my 'passion' is what comes through the strongest.....I'll try
(for the sake of all) to turn my passion into 'compassion'...Yes, that's
MUCH better. On the Inbreath: (hom)..patience, tolerance, compassion,
humility; Outbreath: (sah).... hope, love, grace and COMPASSION]...
Thanks Mike,
Always a student,
xs10sual
(soham/hamsa)
>
>Just wondering. Mike
>
PS: Keep wondering, Mike. A nice example of 'Beginner's mind'...
xs10sual
Mike said:
>And it's probably not good for sales, either, I would imagine. I
>wouldn't buy a thing from this guy.
>
>Truly yours,Mike
That's YOUR loss, Grasshopper.
M.L.S.
posted:
>(soham/hamsa)
It's not working for ya.
Better yet, what the Thunder said: Datta, dayadhvam, damyata.
Mike
xs10sual
FEARisREAL (actually) said:
>Why so hostile man?
With a 'name' like: "FEARisREAL"....you're wondering *why* I might react
defensively? Please read my FIRST post (on this topic), then tell me *why*
I derserve to be treated so rudely, with sarcasm and in the bullying manner
to which I was subjected?
If you WILL read my FIRST post (copied below [in entirety] for your
convenience), you will see that I presented my experience with HSV2 in a
very 'neutral' manner; as well as my personal reactions to the drugs, Famvir
and Zovirax. I simply expressed "my personal belief" and provided some
other information, as well as my opinion, and all of that was presented with
respect to the readers of this newsgroup.
.
Follows is my (xs10sual's) FIRST post (on this subject):
Dear Sue, and others,
I have had HSV2 for more than 30 years. It ALWAYS breaks out on the palm of
my left hand. However, it STARTS (I start to feel it) somewhere in the
vicinity of my
small-pox vaccination. It is my personal belief that the smallpox vacc. is
what caused it...and that no one is talking about the 'connection' (at least
not the government!).
The 'virus' then travels down (the nerve in) my arm (from my vacc. spot),
which makes the surface skin VERY sensitive and sore. Then, it 'dives'
beneath the surface near my wrist, where after about 24 hours it pops-up
(and out) on my palm.
I tried Famvir and Zovirax (sp?)...Anyway, they both about killed me...I'm
allergic to both. So, I am using Red Marine Algae, and another 'topical'
called Choraphor. Read about both of them at this site:
>and how would i get it
>on my arm?
My doctors have always said that it is very common to get it on the
arm/hand...especially if one is at all involved in the 'medical' field. (I
presume he meant that one can have an open cut on their hand and while
treating an already infected patient, acquire it that way).
>I have never had it anywhere else, except maybe around my mouth
>when i was a kid. Does anyone have any information or know of any links
that
>can help me? i am desperate for some info.
I HIGHLY suggest you try the Red Marine Algae (go to the aforementioned
site)...It's great stuff! Works wonders for the pre-breakout symptomology
as well.
Good Luck!
xs10sual
PS: Also, the Homeopathic remedy "Rhus Tox" does wonders to relieve itching
and soreness...also helps one get over the outbreak faster.
>
>Thanks
>SD
(end of xs10sual's 1st post on this topic)
Please tell me, FEARisREAL, based on my first post alone, *why* I became the
'target' of certain people's rude and bullying attitudes?
I can only presume that these 'bullies' are afraid; afraid of what
'Alternative Medicine' means - it means we are in the midst of a National
Health REVOLUTION. People are revolting against HMO's, impersonal 'Managed
Care Systems'; underqualified medical "professionals", and against these
so-called 'professionals' who are no longer serving OUR needs, they are too
caught up serving the needs of the Insurance Companies.
It is true that if you choose to buy and use products 'outside' the ones
being pushed by the big drug manufacturing companies (such as Famvir and
Zovirax), that you are exercising your right as a human being to take more
interest in and to know MORE about your OWN health! It DOES require more of
your time and attention, more RESPONSIBILITY, but you will be TAKING BACK a
great thing! And that 'great thing' is KNOWLEDGE of yourSELF!! As well as
KNOWLEDGE of your family's health and well-being. I guarantee you that if
you 'take back' some responsibility for your own health and 'healing', you
will see that the 'Healings' will outweigh the 'defeats'.
It is a strengthening and enriching experience - one which will make you
feel better about yourself; better about the decisions you make regarding
your health and the health of your loved ones; for once again it will be in
YOUR hands and not in some file drawer in an Insurance Company's office!
If you become more RESPONSIBLE for you and your family's health, you WILL
get back the self-respect that you once had, and/or that you once gave
(entrusted) to your 'Doctor' who is not a 'Doctor' anymore, but only a
'Provider' for an Insurance Company in disguise. You have the right to be
treated like the REAL, flesh and blood human being you are!
The TRUTH about 'modern' Western Medicine, is that it simply isn't working
well for alot of people! Which is *why* so many are turning to Alternative
means of healing. Eventually, 'modern' Western Medicine will have to 'give
in' and do it's own 'homework', to begin to acquire the vast knowledge
hiding in the many types of 'alternative' healing techniques available on
just this one little planet!
From there, well, who knows...Mars? Jupiter? What about Saturn? What types
of 'healing' and philosophies await us in the stars? I imagine it to be
full to bursting with knowledge for all of us.
FearisReal continued:
>This is a support group for people with Herpes, and i have
>seen a lot of people get help here from regulars, especially GuyonPhone.
Yet
>you have managed to bring it down to the level of name calling and
pettiness.
>It happens in everynewsgroup, i guess. It was just your turn, eh?
Sounds like alot of people have been lead astray...that's just my opinion.
I do hope everyone finds what they need here - how to live a better life
with Herpes. I KNOW I have some answers to the suffering that most of the
people on this newsgroup are going through - and I would be going against my
own heart to keep these things just to myself. I am not here so much to
find help for myself. I am here to help others - if they are ready to take
responsibility and help themselves.
Also, the things about which I speak center mostly on 'taking
responsibility'...and we all know people don't want to hear about
that....not THESE days!! Taking responsibility for ANYTHING in this society
is almost unhead of! (What a shame! What a shame!) Well, that's *why* I'm
here. I am here to 'take responsibility' for giving everyone the
information they deserve - so that they can get well and get on with their
lives. And it sounds to me like I'm long overdue!
Blessings,
xs10sual
PS: To whomever asked if my first name is "Mike". No, sad to say, I'm not
Mike ;^)...but thanks for the very nice complement!!
>
>
xs10sual
cocoabeany wrote:
><snip>
>I would hate to think that this person would act like that in
>person (or at work as a medical professional), if so, I would
>run like heck from that office. But hey, I need the excercise.
>D
Nice to know I've already been of service to you! Keep it up! (the jogging,
I mean).
FEARisREAL
hi_...@my-deja.com
I *have* read "Autobiography..." and your postings here reflect nothing
of the spirit of that book. Please don't degrade it with your abusive
musings.
You may believe yourself on a path that permits you to do this, but the
path I believe I'm on entitles me to ask you to knock it off. You are
speaking cruelly to some very hard-working and loving people, in the
name of "teaching."
I've had "hard lessons" at the feet of masters, but they weren't
(and needn't be) abusive.
In comparing yourself to the masters in Yogananda's book, you seem to be
implying you are at a similar level of consciousness and awareness.
Maybe you are, but your posts don't seem to reflect it. Your tone
reminds me of two people I have known who were undeniably mean and
cruel. (By the way, they taught me lessons too, but certainly not the
ones they *thought* they were teaching me!)
Hi_nrg
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Sme3120
>Right on, John and Mike.
>
>I stopped reading Mr. xs's posts just because of the rude
>attitude. Those types of posts are unwelcome in this forum.
>I would hate to think that this person would act like that in
>person (or at work as a medical professional), if so, I would
>run like heck from that office. But hey, I need the excercise.
>
>D
I think that even with your leg pain you'd outrun him. Trolls don't move too
quickly!
:-)
Yoshi2Me
What a sweet little PITA...wouldn't you say? :::::::::::::cuter angelic
smile::::::::::::
-Yoshi
Link Page (World Wide Web Sites of Interest)
http://www.ashastd.org/links/links.html#herpes
xs10sual
hi_...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>I *have* read "Autobiography..." and your postings here reflect nothing
>of the spirit of that book. Please don't degrade it with your abusive
>musings.
I didn't say I compared myself to Sri Yogananda or his book! (But, thank you
for the honor!)
*I* just said: read his book.
>
>You may believe yourself on a path that permits you to do this, but the
>path I believe I'm on entitles me to ask you to knock it off. You are
>speaking cruelly to some very hard-working and loving people, in the
>name of "teaching."
Who, me? Believe I'm on a path that permits 'freedom of speech'? Well, I
guess as an American citizen I have that right. You too :) . You enjoy
yours, I'll enjoy mine. Personally, I don't much travel the 'beaten path'
anymore. I am no more in need of a 'path' than a bird! Having earned my
wings,
I fly - now, the sky's the limit!
>
>I've had "hard lessons" at the feet of masters, but they weren't
>(and needn't be) abusive.
Well, you must not have gotten too close to them (your 'masters', that is).
Please describe your 'idea' of abuse?
>
>In comparing yourself to the masters in Yogananda's book, you seem to be
>implying you are at a similar level of consciousness and awareness.
>Maybe you are, but your posts don't seem to reflect it. Your tone
>reminds me of two people I have known who were undeniably mean and
>cruel. (By the way, they taught me lessons too, but certainly not the
>ones they *thought* they were teaching me!)
>Hi_nrg
I am reminded of the 'cruelest' teacher/lesson I ever had....the result?
The strength to endure life unending, and the courage to die, over and over
again. And not for myself, but for others.
Injoy,
xs10sual
>
>
>
>
Tim Fitzmaurice
> In article <20000403023547...@ng-md1.aol.com>, xdc...@aol.com
> (XdcrLab) writes:
> >No Guy it wouldn't. I see your not above starting another round of lies,
> >filling in for April these days?
> Hey Mike.
>
> Nope, the dude/dudette just appeared to be as ornery as you've been in the
> past. No offense of course! ::angelic smile::
No matter what people may think of Mike I do not remember him as being
offensive.
Tim
When playing rugby, its not the winning that counts, but the taking apart
ICQ: 5178568
cocoabeany
I need the motivator.....LOL
D (aka Cocoa...or is it Hot Cocoa?)
John Bailey
xs10sual wrote in message <8cb58b$omq$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>...
All your manner does for me is stop me taking your information seriously.
If use a bullying forcing style, i.e. "I am right and every one else is
wrong" , which is which is how your posts come over with your choice of
language and insults.
Then I have to assume that you got your information the same way, by pushing
your point of view and not listening to anyone else. Is that likely to make
you a good source of information? I doubt it.
John Bailey
about, and criticism of, his first post it certainly wasn't abusive (and I
didn't reply to the first post so I was fairly neutral at that point).
But it is beginning to look like XS has a crusade which he or she wishes to
conduct and doesn't really care how or where they do it.
xs10sual wrote in message <8cc1a8$cg02$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>...
John Bailey
xs10sual wrote in message <8cb6v5$3shq$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>...
>
>
>GUYonphone wrote
>><xs10...@prodigy.net> writes:
>>
>>>I have had HSV2 for more than 30 years. It ALWAYS breaks out on the palm
>of
>>>my left hand.
>>
>I agree....just 'curios' here!
>
>>
>>How was it determined that what you have in your arm/hand is herpes
>simplex?
>
>Why do you want to know? If you are serious I will tell you. If you are
>not, and simply being sarcastic and demeaning...then piss off.
because without knowing how can we judge the value of your information ???
>
>>And the typing? How was that done?
>You've heard of 'automatic' writing? 'My' fingers NEVER touch the
keyboard!
>(Just doin' my job).
I think Guy meant how was your H typed, ie how do you know whether it is
HSV1 or HSV2?
John Bailey
When I was a kid I thought I could grow up into a Kung Fu man too, but then
I grew up though.
BTW I read the first couple of paras of your post, then decided you were
talking a load of crap and stopped reading. However, you got it wrong in
the first para - if the students stop listening the teacher stops being a
teacher ...
xs10sual wrote in message <8cb9oe$3dfo$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>...
>
>John Bailey wrote in message ...
>>
>>xs10sual wrote in message
>>>Show me a person who doesn't need "more homework"
>>>..the BEST Teachers remain Students Forever.
>>>Y.T.,
>>>xs
>>>(edit by xs)
>>
>>
>John Bailey (Grasshopper) also wrote:
>>They also remain polite - because other wise their students stop listening
>>to them
>
> Grasshopper, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. If
the
>'students' stop listening, well, that's THEIR problem and THEIR loss. The
>teacher isn't 'losing' anything; however, the student could incur heavy
>losses for not 'hanging in there'. You may want to read "Autobiography of
GUYonphone
(XdcrLab) writes:
>Offense taken(cute side quips have their limit), you could easily have
>checked
>with me before casting about false dispersions. As for ornery I'd say orders
>of magnitude dif.
Then, I humbly apologize for the offense taken. I really was kidding. Even
about asking if the person's name was "Mike". Sorry, again, that you took
offense.
However,...um.... why would you think I was referring to you rather than any
other "Mike"???? (Oops... there it is again! That sarcastic sense of humor of
mine...)
Hang in there
-G
GUYonphone
<xs10...@prodigy.net> writes:
<snip>
>Why do you want to know? If you are serious I will tell you. If you are
>not, and simply being sarcastic and demeaning...then piss off.
>
I'd not ask if I didn't think the answer could be instructive for not only
myself, but all who read here. You seem to have a very strange way of reacting
to the simplist of questions...but.. whatever. I wanted to know more about the
procedures for your diagnosis because compared to oral and genital herpes, I
believe herpes whitlow to be more rare. Further info on the subject of ANY
herpes and it's diagnosis might be useful for all who read here.
>>And the typing? How was that done?
>You've heard of 'automatic' writing? 'My' fingers NEVER touch the keyboard!
>(Just doin' my job).
>
<snip>
Ahhh... Errrr... your virus--how was your *virus* typed? You indicate it is
HSV2 that travels down your arm to your palm. How was the HSV2 determined?
Herpes of the hand/fingers = not as frequently diagnosed as oral and/or
genital. HSV2 of the hand/fingers = downright unusual I would think, as most
herpes whitlow is attributed to HSV1 although type testing, I bet, is rarely
done. I was just wondering--again, for educational purposes.
Hang in there
-G
GUYonphone
Fitzmaurice <tj...@cus.cam.ac.uk> writes:
>No matter what people may think of Mike I do not remember him as being
>offensive.
Hi Tim
Nor I. But "ornery" perhaps, which is what I said. I never said he was
offensive.
I've met Mike in person and I've talked with him. He's sent me email with
recommendations for treating colds and the like when I said on the board that I
had a killer cold a while back. I know that he truely believes his herbal
methods of treating ailments is the best way to handle things--and for all I
know, it may be. I'm sure he also thinks his own herpes has been helped by the
products he takes and so he believes in the products he markets to others.
But, in past dealings, I've seen him be what might be considered as ornery
(IMHO), especially when caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Now, he hasn't
been up to those tricks of late, which is nice to see. But, once bitten, twice
shy.
When I saw the original post and responses to responses, I noted xs's "natural"
slant, distaste for prescription meds, and fairly hostile nature (granted, I
did miss the fact that xs *wasn't* trying to give us logic lessons as Mike's
alter-ego was inclined to do...). In addition to all that, I was in a rather
odd state that day for personal reasons and my sarcasm got the better of me.
I've apologized to Mike within another post to this thread. I really had meant
it as little more than a humorous probe (but a probe, just the same). When he
responded the way he did, I continued and made matters worse.
I apologize to all I've offended.
But Mike being "offensive"? I'd agree with you--he's not.
Hang in there
-G
GUYonphone
(FEARisREAL) writes:
>Why so hostile man? This is a support group for people with Herpes, and i
>have
>seen a lot of people get help here from regulars, especially GuyonPhone. Yet
>you have managed to bring it down to the level of name calling and pettiness.
>It happens in everynewsgroup, i guess. It was just your turn, eh?
Hi.
Thanks for the compliments to everyone who helps here, and for singling me out
too. I, and I'm sure all who try to help here, are just trying to offer the
same type of caring and support that people offered when we first came here.
So please, get the help you need here and then stay around and help others if
you're of a mind to. The more, the merrier!
Why hostility? It's generally associated with fear and ignorance. I think the
main reward that a hostile person seeks, at least on newsgroups like this one,
is other's equally hostile reaction to what's said. I've found that that type
of reaction is unnecessary, and even counterproductive.
Hang in there
-G
Yoshi2Me
> I was just wondering--again, for educational purposes.
>
I personally have had enough of the educational experiences fromt this joker.
I wouldn't even waste any more of your precious breath Guy!!
:)
-Yosh*
Yoshi2Me
-G,
He pulls this stuff on AOL boards ALL the time. He's quiet for awhile and then
he pops up like he is doing here. I know where you are coming from on this...
nothing sarcastic about that!
xs10sual
Come on now! Listen, guys, gals, everyone: I posted a completely
non-offensive post to the group (my first post on this topic) then...*I* get
attacked by several members of this newsgroup...and I'M BULLYING? I DON'T
THINK SO. Reread my first post and the subsequent BLASTS that I got from
all you 'innocent' ones....
Of course I'm going to be offensive - at least until everyone calms down and
realizes that I AM A PERSON TOO. I deserve to be treated with respect just
like everyone else. I repeat:
I DID NOT, IN MY FIRST POST, say ANYTHING DISRESPECTFUL to any member of
this group! Therefore, I DIDN'T START this crap! So YOU GUYS cut the
crap.........
....and I deserve an APOLOGY - as well.
THAT was NO WAY to welcome anyone into a group! If you continue to behave
like a**holes, well, I won't take anything YOU say seriously EITHER! This
thing works TWO WAYS YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!!
John Bailey wrote in message
>
>
>All your manner does for me is stop me taking your information seriously.
Why don't YOU read my first post and then get back to me over WHO is
BULLYING WHO?
><rather large SNIP>
Check it out!
xs10sual
>
>
xs10sual
cocoabeany said:
>That's funny.....hey, ya wanna be my personal trainer???
>I need the motivator.....LOL
SURE! Will you be MY trainer as well? (I kinda need the exercise
too)....hee hee
>
>D (aka Cocoa...or is it Hot Cocoa?)
Personally, I like Hot Cocoa! Actually, i LOVE hot cocoa! Had a nice cuppa
last night before beddie-bye. Great Stuff - knocks me out! I Love your
name...makes me hungry! But, before I go and eat anything...make me mad so
I'll go out and get some exercise!
>
xs10sual
John Bailey wrote in message ...
>xs10 isn't quite being 100% truthful here. While he got some questions
>about, and criticism of, his first post it certainly wasn't abusive (and I
>didn't reply to the first post so I was fairly neutral at that point).
Yes, you were an 'innocent' - that is until you got involved in the FEEDING
FRENZY!!
>
>But it is beginning to look like XS has a crusade which he or she wishes
to
>conduct and doesn't really care how or where they do it.
Not true. I'm here just like you...because I have Herpes. I just happen to
have found some 'different' means of treating it, ones with which I have had
great succcess...and I want to share them with everyone!
BTW: My name is "xs10sual" (a combination of the words: existence & sensual
or existential).
and my knicknames are: "xs" (excess)" or "xs10s" (existence).
>
>
>
xs10sual
GUYonphone wrote
>
>Why hostility? It's generally associated with fear and ignorance. I think
the
>main reward that a hostile person seeks, at least on newsgroups like this
one,
>is other's equally hostile reaction to what's said. I've found that that
type
>of reaction is unnecessary, and even counterproductive.
AND YOU OUTTA KNOW! I repeat:
"I guess only 'perfect' people, (like you, apparently) are arrogant and
self-righteous enough to THROW STONES without conscience. At least
I admit I'm an Ass (when I'm being one). I don't presume that my 'humility'
is an excuse to THROW STONES at other people, without checking myself out
first...
>
>Hang in there-G
What's with all the "Hang(in) in there" Dude?
Did trying to come up with a clever 'sig' every time you post become a
problem for you?
Your current 'sig' has become redundant and boring...the repetitiveness has
made it without
meaning - clueless, in fact. But, far worse than that...it's facetious. It
reminds me of another
person on a newsgroup (who shall go un-named); she used to sign every post
"Respectfully",
- and then, with her cunning ability to SUCK people into the BLACK HOLE of
her so-called
'friendship' she would suddenly turn on them.....Respectful?? Not on the
long shot!
So, come on, DUDE...you can do better than "Hang in there" - carry the news!
Xpressively,
xs
M.L.S.
>Then, I humbly apologize for the offense taken. I really was kidding. Even
>about asking if the person's name was "Mike". Sorry, again, that you took
>offense.
>However,...um.... why would you think I was referring to you rather than any
>other "Mike"???? (Oops... there it is again! That sarcastic sense of humor of
>mine...)
Well, I just KNEW it couldn't be me.... :)
Truly yours,
Mike
xs10sual
GUYonphone wrote
><xs10...@prodigy.net> writes:
>
><snip>
>>Why do you want to know? If you are serious I will tell you. If you are
>>not, and simply being sarcastic and demeaning...then piss off.
>>
>
>I'd not ask if I didn't think the answer could be instructive for not only
>myself, but all who read here. You seem to have a very strange way of
>reacting
>to the simplist of questions..
These are the exact words you used when you asked me about 'my' herpetic
eruption.:
Guyonphone said: "How was it determined that what you have in your arm/hand
is herpes simplex? And the typing? How was that done?"
Well, your 'question' about 'the typing' kind of threw me off. I
misunderstood what you meant by "typing"! I thought you meant: "How, if you
have herpes of the hand, do you 'manage', with the herpes, to do all the
'typing' on the keyboard!"
I thought you were being sarcastic. I had just been 'attacked' by various
other people, so was expecting an attack from you too. Just shows you 'get'
what you look for! Thus, my "very strange way of reacting" to your 'simple'
question. MY mistake..and my apologies to you, Guy. Can we start over?
I will try to get my emotions out of the way before responding in the
future. And if I don't understand a question, instead of assuming it is an
'attack' (unless it's blatant!) I will question the writer further before
answering. This should help with future 'conversations'.
Guyonphone continues:
>but.. whatever. I wanted to know more about the
>procedures for your diagnosis because compared to oral and genital herpes,
>I
>believe herpes whitlow to be more rare. Further info on the subject of ANY
>herpes and it's diagnosis might be useful for all who read here.
I would be very happy to tell you all about it. I first noticed the
'outbreaks' recurring on the palm of my left hand (and sometimes wrist), in
about 1970. A doctor I saw at that time told me "it looks like Herpes". As
he was not my 'regular' doctor, he did no further testing. The doctor who
finally "nailed it down" did so in 1997. I have his 'letter' to me
explaining the test procedure he used and the diagnosis.
The letter states: "Your palm vesicular lesions were lanced and cultured
using special viral liquid media last visit. The cultures were + for type
II Herpes. Enclosed is information that will explain hand contamination.
This is NOT uncommon (his accent on the 'not'). The small pox vaccination
probably has nothing to do with your lesions. Antiviral therapy will
help."
Signed, Dr. X.
The culture about which he is referring to was on 4/17//97. and says:
Culture Identification: 1. Herpes Simplex Virus Type 2
2. Test(s) performed at: Specialty
Laboratories, Inc.
2211 Michigan Ave., Santa Monica, CA
90404
Included with the above information was another piece of paper (a Herpes
Pamphlet) with the following information: the comments labeled "Aside" and
contained in parentheses are my own.
Entitled: Genital herpes
What is genital herpes?
Genital herpes is a common disease caused by a virus. It causes painful
blisters that break open on the genitals of both men and women.
How does it occur?
This infection can be passed during sexual intercourse or by other intimate
contact with genitals, mouth, or rectal area. You may spread it with your
hands if they become contaminated. Once you're infected, the virus remains
in your body for the rest of your life. Usually it is in an inactive state,
which means it is not causing symptoms. However, the virus may become
active again and the disease may recur frequently. Outbreaks may occur with
physical stress or trauma, such as tight clothing, intercourse without
enough lubrication, or the stress of an illness. Emotional stress or
menstruation
may also cause an outbreak.
Herpes is highly contagious, especially when sores are present.
However, it can be contagious when there are no obvious sores. After the
first outbreak of sores, some people shed active virus particles even though
they may not have any symptoms. Therefore, you could infect other people
even when you do not have any blisters.
What are the symptoms?
The symptoms of herpes are usually most severe during the first outbreak.
(Aside: Personally I do not find this to be true).
Symptoms may include:
- painful sores (blisters) on the genitals (for example, a man's penis or a
woman's vulva), thighs, or buttocks.
- fever (usually only with the first outbreak of blisters)
- general discomfort, muscle aches
- vaginal discharge
- painful urination
- urine retention (inability to urinate normally)
- pain during intercourse
- itching
- tender, enlarged lymph nodes in the groin.
(Aside: I, personally do not agree with some of these symptoms, such as,
having a fever ONLY on the first outbreak. I have a chronic low grade fever
which gets worse EVERY time I break out, etc.).
The sores (often called lesions) appear first as tiny clear blisters. The
blisters usually quickly lose their thin tops and then look like small
(1/8th inch to 1/4 inch), pink or red shallow sores. They are tender to the
touch. Usually the blisters occur in groups of several blisters, but you
may have a just a single blister.
Some people infected with herpes have no symptoms.
How is it diagnosed?
The doctor will order lab tests of cells or liquid from one of the sores.
How is it treated?
Genital herpes cannot be cured. The virus will stay in your body. However,
your doctor may prescribe acyclovir to relieve the symptoms more quickly.
Acyclovir will also shorten the time of contagiousness and help you have
fewer and shorter outbreaks in the future.
(Aside: As I have said, I found the 'acyclovirs' to be extremely dangerous
and do not use them myself).
If a woman has herpes during pregnancy, she could pass the disease to her
baby through the placenta or during delivery. A pregnant woman with a
history of herpes must tell her obstetrician so steps can be taken to avoid
infection the baby at delivery.
How long will the effects last?
The first outbreak of herpes usually lasts 7 to 9 days, but it can last a
few weeks. During this time the sores shrink and dry up.
About half of herpes-infected people have recurrences. These recurrences
tend to be milder than the first bout of herpes and the sores heal more
quickly.
How can I take care of myself while I have the active infection?
Follow the full treatment prescribed by your doctor. In addition, when
sores are present you can:
- Use a disposable glove to apply medication. This helps you avoid
spreading the infection to other parts of your body with your hands.
- Wipe yourself from front to back after using the toilet.
- Wear loose clothing, preferably cotton, to allow air circulation and to
avoid pressure on the skin, which may cause more blisters.
- Take aspirin, acetaminophen, or codeine to reduce pain.
- Avoid sharing towels or clothing.
- Avoid using douches, perfumed soaps, sprays, feminine hygiene deodorants,
or other chemicals in the genital area.
- Avoid excessive sunlight and heat, which may cause more blisters.
- Avoid sexual contact with others.
What can I do to help prevent recurrences?
You can try to minimize recurrences by:
- taking all the medicine prescribed by the doctor
- following the doctor's instructions for necessary follow-up visits and
tests
- informing your sexual partner or partners about the infection so they can
be checked and treated, if necessary.
What can be done to prevent genital herpes?
- Practice safe sex. Use condoms every time you have intercourse, including
during foreplay.
- Ask your partner(s) if they have had herpes because herpes may be spread
from areas not protected by condoms; for example, the groin, thigh, and the
abdomen.
- Avoid oral-genital and oral-anal sex with someone who has fever blisters
(cold sores) in the mouth. Cold sores are caused by a related virus that
can infect the genitals.
- Always use condoms during any sexual contact, as it is not possible always
to know or predict when the virus can be shed or passed to another. This
includes oral-genital and anal-genital sex.
Developed by Phyllis g. Cooper, R.N., M.N.,
and Clinical Reference Systems, LTD.
Copyright 1996 Clinical Reference Systems, LTD.
(end of Herpes Pamphlet)
Shortly after I received these test results I came across an article in book
entitled: Woman's Health and Medical Guide, which said: (regarding
'eczema'). Although most patients with eczema are very healthy in every
other respect, a rare atopic will suffer repeated skin infections and be in
need of frequent antibiotic therapy. Cataracts sometimes can occur. Of
gravest concern, however, is protection from VIRAL infections. Herpes
simplex infections and smallpox vaccinations can cause serious, extensive,
viral infections in the skin that may spread to the internal organs. For
this reason, people with atopic eczema (which I have) should NOT be given
smallpox vaccinations, nor should they come into contact with anyone who
recently has been vaccinated. Spouses or close relatives of atopics also
should not receive smallpox vaccinations. There are rare occasions,
however, when the benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks.
><snip>
>
>Ahhh... Errrr... your virus--how was your *virus* typed? You indicate it
is
>HSV2 that travels down your arm to your palm. How was the HSV2 determined?
I have had it 'tested' and 'typed' many times. It always comes back HSV2.
I don't remember the names of the tests used to determine it.
>Herpes of the hand/fingers = not as frequently diagnosed as oral and/or
>genital. HSV2 of the hand/fingers = downright unusual I would think, as
most
>herpes whitlow is attributed to HSV1 although type testing, I bet, is
rarely
>done. I was just wondering--again, for educational purposes.
Would you please explain "type testing" to me? This may have been the test
performed on me by the doctor who gave me the Herpes Pamphlet along with my
test results. He said Herpes Virus 2 is "very common" on the
hands/fingers...especially if one is in the medical field, as I am.
>
>Hang in there
>-G
>
PS: And FYI: YES. It is possible for someone to be in a medical field and
not know EVERYTHING. Besides my Specialty is Homeopathy, not traditional
Allopathic medicine.
Thank you,
xs10sual
Yoshi2Me
down?
Boy does that thing come in handy!!!
-Yosh*
Skipping Right Along............to the next post!
xs10sual
Dear Yoshi,
you said:
Yoshi2Me wrote
I believe I am missing the point of your post. Would you care to explain it
to me?
>
>
xs10sual
Dear Mike,
Will you please translate for me, so I don't have to go dig out my Sanskrit
books...assuming it is Sanskrit. What DID the 'Thunder' say?
M.L.S. wrote in message
>"xs10sual" <xs10...@prodigy.net>
>posted:
>
>>(soham/hamsa)
>
>(Mike said:)
>It's not working for ya.
LOL!! Thanks for the 'concern'.
All together now: Inbreath: ham.....Outbreath: sah.......God that feels
good! And YES it does relieve stress.
>
>Better yet, what the Thunder said: Datta, dayadhvam, damyata.
>
>Mike
>
Yoshi2Me
um.....Not at all!!
XdcrLab
>been up to those tricks of late
Hand in the cookie Jar? Tricks of late?
Standing up against falsehoods sure gets twisted.
But then I forget one of the primary side effects of cyclo use is lack of
mental clarity.
Fogheads unite, who needs reality when we can bliss away in our misty stupor.
All Hail Supreme Pharmacuetical Houses for thou divine powder of veiled vision.
Mike
M.L.S.
posted:
>Dear Mike,
>Will you please translate for me, so I don't have to go dig out my Sanskrit
>books...assuming it is Sanskrit. What DID the 'Thunder' say?
The Thunder said for you to get yo' a** out from under the Bodhi tree
and start counseling and supporting the multitudes here, or it would
strike thee or smight thee with a pestilence.
Ooo, too late.
Okay, so not many of the multitudes have made it here from their
post-Spring-break-fling clinics yet, but, at least crack your knuckles
and sharpen your skills, cuz I know you've got them. And the
multitudes will be here soon. My oracle told me so.
Truly yours,
Mike
GUYonphone
(XdcrLab) writes:
>>especially when caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Now, he hasn't
>>been up to those tricks of late
>
>Hand in the cookie Jar? Tricks of late?
>
>Standing up against falsehoods sure gets twisted.
>
Mike
I thought we could tiptoe around this without completely re-hashing your past
errors but as long as you keep saying you're the wronged party, I think it
important for all to know more of the history, don't you? Would you like to
explain your point of view? Here's mine--and it hasn't changed since the last
time we 'discussed' it. It looks like you still have your same point of view,
also.
I think it's deceptive to post your point of view with one name and then post
with another name to agree with that stance and/or promote products. And
that's what you had done (tricks) in the past.. And, when caught at it (by
April--who really raked you over the coals for your transgressions, but by far
she was not the only one who found your tactics offensive), instead of just
saying "I'm sorry, I won't do it again", you acted (and seem to still act) like
there's nothing wrong with that type of deception (hand in the cookie jar).
And then you want to market something to the world at large (and herpes
infected people in particular)? Puh-lease!
I know...I know...you claim you weren't deceptive in any way. EVERYONE should
come here with multiple names and post agreement with statments they'd make
under other identities. But please, Mike! You *seem* like an intelligent
person--you CAN'T not know the wrongness of that idea. YOU were the
"falsehood" here at that time, Mike--you just can't seem to admit that you were
doing anything wrong. Kinda like that ol' Nixon fella.... "I'm not a crook..."
>But then I forget one of the primary side effects of cyclo use is lack of
>mental clarity.
>
>Fogheads unite, who needs reality when we can bliss away in our misty stupor.
>All Hail Supreme Pharmacuetical Houses for thou divine powder of veiled
>vision.
>
I wouldn't know about all this *foggy* stuff--haven't had to use the meds in
quite a while. But even when I did, I knew your take on what's right and wrong
was flawed. Besides it's only in *your* mind that the meds create a fog in
people who take them. Unless of course there are studies that back up that
idea? Are there any you can cite?
Hang in there
-G
John Bailey
xs10sual wrote in message <8cdt0h$jtu$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>...
>Yes, you were an 'innocent' - that is until you got involved in the FEEDING
>FRENZY!!
Oh xs10 I haven't been innocent for a long time. And just when did I get
involved in feeding frenzy? Don't tell me your memories that bad. If you
think thats a feeding frenzy, you are an innocent.
>>
>>But it is beginning to look like XS has a crusade which he or she wishes
>to
>>conduct and doesn't really care how or where they do it.
>
>Not true. I'm here just like you...because I have Herpes. I just happen
to
>have found some 'different' means of treating it, ones with which I have
had
>great succcess...and I want to share them with everyone!
>
You stand more chance of having people listen to you now that you have
developed a more well mannered style. Well done!
>BTW: My name is "xs10sual" (a combination of the words: existence & sensual
>or existential).
>and my knicknames are: "xs" (excess)" or "xs10s" (existence).
>
That's nice for you
John Bailey
xs10sual wrote in message <8cds3p$btcs$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>...
>
>Come on now! Listen, guys, gals, everyone: I posted a completely
>non-offensive post to the group (my first post on this topic) then...*I*
get
>attacked by several members of this newsgroup...and I'M BULLYING? I DON'T
>THINK SO. Reread my first post and the subsequent BLASTS that I got from
>all you 'innocent' ones....
With respect - you were questioned on the accuracy of your post - as are
many other poster here. As have I been. The questions were fairly blunt
and too the point and a couple of them corrected what appeared, to the, to
be errors in your post. I recognise that might not be a pleasant welcome to
the group, but that is no excuse for the level of abuse you put in your
replies.
>
>Of course I'm going to be offensive - at least until everyone calms down
and
>realizes that I AM A PERSON TOO. I deserve to be treated with respect just
>like everyone else. I repeat:
>
>I DID NOT, IN MY FIRST POST, say ANYTHING DISRESPECTFUL to any member of
>this group! Therefore, I DIDN'T START this crap! So YOU GUYS cut the
>crap.........
>
>....and I deserve an APOLOGY - as well.
Any one that posts in a newsgroup, with an authoritative tone, should expect
to get hard questioning, if you don't understand that, and expect it, maybe
you should reconsider the use of newsgroups as a medium fror expreesing
yourself, it would be better for your blood pressure. The only appology
that is due is from you for the abuse that was included in your subsequent
posts.
>
>THAT was NO WAY to welcome anyone into a group! If you continue to behave
>like a**holes, well, I won't take anything YOU say seriously EITHER! This
>thing works TWO WAYS YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!!
That is no real way to enter a group.
>
>John Bailey wrote in message
>>
>>
>>All your manner does for me is stop me taking your information seriously.
>
>Why don't YOU read my first post and then get back to me over WHO is
>BULLYING WHO?
I did read your first post, when you posted it. I also read all of your
abusive replies.
>
>><rather large SNIP>
>Check it out!
Check out what?
>xs10sual
>>
>>
>
>
xs10sual
Dear John,
you wrote:
><snip>
>
>With respect - you were questioned on the accuracy of your post - as are
>many other poster here.
John - I just re-read MY FIRST post (in reply to Sue Dach's about *arm
herpes*), and I fail to see, exactly *where*, in that particular post, I
deserved to be 'questioned' in the particularly sarcastic and retaliatory
manner and with the tone, in which Sme### was "question(ing me) on the
accuracy of (my) post (sic)."
However, Sme3120 has apologized (as he/she apparently assumed I was a
'Troll'), and I have apologized to him/her, for my infantile name-calling.
I regret terribly having lowered myself to that level of 'communication',
and I apologize to all who read my nuclear-meltdown BLAST to Sme3120.
However, if there is anything to be gained from all this, (IMHO) it is that
we certainly did get alot of 'junk' out of the way quickly! I don't like
letting things 'simmer' - especially 'relationships'. I mean, this isn't a
dress rehearsal, it's the real thing (Life); even on The Web! I want to
'get it on' and see how *being me* in any situation might hasten this
process (of becoming PERFECT); I mean, who here will deny that they are not
seeking PERFECTION? If you say you are not, well, then you do not know your
SELF at all well. But this might help:
I believe that one of the more important aspects of 'life' is that we
are given innumerable opportunities to become better human beings.
These 'opportunities' often lay in wait for us within the very people
with whom we come into contact, and usually on a daily basis! Other People
(again IMHO), exist so that we as individual *ego's*, might see, in the
reflection of THEIR being, both OUR strong AND (sometimes more
importantly) OUR weak points; and NOT so that we might have the opportunity
to criticize, blame, and often, derail the lives, of these
'reflections' of our selves; these perfect 'mirrors', our friends,
lovers, enemies and more, who exist so that we might become 'better' people.
Of course, we too, the ME (or the YOU) are also a 'mirror' for others.
By looking at you, I can see the things (about me) that I want to
change (ego); I can see how I might be procrastinating about one thing
or another, or *what* qualities about myself that need 'tidying up'.
However, we also exist (as a mirror) to reflect inner 'beauty',
peace and compassion (which is why it is so important to keep
'cleaning' our mirrors). What we see, we are. That's a hard one, for I see
so many things I don't like.
This is the very reason *why* Mother Theresa became a nun (her own
reason). Because, she said: "I see the Hitler in me". Well, if
Mother Theresa had problems accepting HER self, let's not be too hard
on OUR selves. Self-loathing isn't the answer either. But *how* did Mother
Theresa react to this 'discovery' of the "Hitler" within her being?
By serving man/womankind. SHE KNEW inside her 'self', that she was
no better than anyone else; no better than even Hitler! What a discovery!!
She truly UNDERSTOOD people. She also knew that the only way to
UNDERSTAND anyone is to STAND UNDER them; one must *stand under* who
or what one wants to understand! She put her 'self' and her needs
beneath those of others, and gained "Understanding". This is what makes her
great. This is what makes her a Saint.
A Saint is someone who knows that they DON'T know anything! And the
best way to handle "not knowing anything" is to serve others. We
'know' how to do that. We know what WE like, we know how WE want to
be treated. Well, just turn it around and serve others in the same way. We
discover that by serving others, we serve our 'self'. And THAT brings
the greatest reward...inner peace and (under-standing).
(end of lecture)
I'm just one of those people who like's to air out problems at first
awareness of them. Thank you, whomever might still be with me, for
listening. I'm certain I lost alot of you by babbling on as I did. My
apologies...sometimes it's as though I can't stop typing! It is as though I
AM doing "automatic typing". So be it.
John Bailey continued:
><snip>
>The questions were fairly blunt
>and too the point and a couple of them corrected what appeared, to the, to
>be errors in your post. I recognise that might not be a pleasant welcome
to
>the group, but that is no excuse for the level of abuse you put in your
>replies.
Well, I certainly differ with your opinion. There were no "errors" in my
post. I was speaking in a kind of *shorthand*, which I realize now is not
the best way to communicate in a newsgroup. So, I learned alot from all
that transpired. But, on this issue, I shall speak no more.
>>xs said:....and I deserve an APOLOGY - as well.
>
>Any one that posts in a newsgroup, with an authoritative tone, should
expect
>to get hard questioning, if you don't understand that, and expect it, maybe
>you should reconsider the use of newsgroups as a medium fror expreesing
>yourself, it would be better for your blood pressure.
Do you mean like the tone you're using? I'll take that into consideration.
xs10sual
John Bailey wrote in message ...
>
>Oh xs10 I haven't been innocent for a long time. And just when did I get
>involved in feeding frenzy? Don't tell me your memories that bad. If you
>think thats a feeding frenzy, you are an innocent.
Abalone! Whale, perhaps you are right, and I am a 'sole' survivor,
'scalloped' and bleeding. Give me a minnow to eel, I'll be fin.
><snip>xs said:
>I'm here just like you...because I have Herpes. I just happen
>to
>>have found some 'different' means of treating it, ones with which I have
>had
>>great succcess...and I want to share them with everyone!
>>
>
>You stand more chance of having people listen to you now that you have
>developed a more well mannered style. Well done!
Tank you, John. I've decided not to be such a Crab.
xs10sual
karen wrote:
>snipped
>**** gee, Rhus Tox, a homeopathic remedy or another poison? Isn't that
what
>homeopathy is, introducing poisons into the body to force a reaction?
No, sweetheart, that is not how Homeopathy *works*. I'd be very happy to
explain how it works.
Homeopathic medicine is based upon the Law of Similars. Like cures Like.
In most remedies, not even one (1) molecule of the original substance which
was introduced into the 'remedy' can be found.
>And
>that's safer than a drug that's been tested for years and approved by the
>FDA? Ha, I'll stick with my Famvir thank you very much.
>K
You must be young. You are certainly naive....the FDA?? ROTFLMAOWTRDMF!!!!!
>
>
xs10sual
I just HAVE to reply to this (fun-e) email:
John Bailey said:
>Oh get it right - its Glass Hopper - you got to have the accent.
Okay...okay..okay (like Joe Pesci)....then, ahem...
"Glass Hoppa"
how was that, ok????!!!!
>
>J.B. continued:
>When I was a kid I thought I could grow up into a Kung Fu man too, but
then
>I grew up though
tsk tsk, what a pity, Glass hoppa. Glass hoppa give up too easy...neva make
it to brack bewlt...
On other hand, we have Glate Masta, Honerable Xs10sual, who did not give up
quite so easiry...attained goal ov Gleen Bewlt in Tae Kwon Do, and she did
this, Glass Hoppa, while plegnant with 4th baby!
So Glass hoppa be fowarned. XS is Glate Masta! Mite kik yor buttocks!!
>
><(arot of stuff) <SNIP> J.B. goes on:
>if the students stop listening the teacher stops being a
>teacher ...
The teacher may stop being a teacher, but forever remains the student - so
the student never leaves!
This leads us back to what we were talking about in the first place,
Glass-Hoppa! The student, whom the teacher loves unconditionally, when set
free, always returns to his teacher.
BAD Glass-hoppa! No pay attention to Masta XS!! 15 whacks acloss back with
bamboo stick for not pay attention!
WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! WHACK!
WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! WHACK!
NO I change mind...now it's 20 WHACKS ACLOSS Glass-hoppa's hairy back!
WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! WHACK! WHACK!
>>
>>
>>Blessings, (and thanks, John! that was fun!)
>>Your Master,
xs10sual
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
XdcrLab
Accept no substitutes
Mike
XdcrLab
>post
>with another name to agree with that stance and/or promote products. And
>that's what you had done (tricks) in the past..
No need to lie Guy, I have never done this in promoting products. What you
consider deceptive has no merit in the persuit of truth because its
exclusionary. But then you care nothing of the truth as evidenced by your
continuing use of false logic, the red herring, to "trick" folks.
And, when caught at it
>(by
>April--who really raked you over the coals for your transgressions,
Not at all, April is incapable of any rational thought as evidenced by her
lies, had statute of limitations not run out she would be facing a libel suit.
Sorry Guy but your postion is fallacious, just because you want to believe
something is so and can state that it is so does not make it so.
Mike
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GUYonphone
<xs10...@prodigy.net> writes:
>easiry..
then:
>Glass Hoppa
Hey, either there's "L"s where the 'R's should be, or there's a "R"s where the
'L's should be--but you can't have them BOTH!! ::grin::
Hang in there
-G
GUYonphone
(XdcrLab) writes:
>No need...
<snip delusional post and another completely non-sensical one >
Well, old news anyway...
-G
xs10sual
Dear Mike,
XdcrLab wrote
>And thou shalt have no other Gods before me
>
>Accept no substitutes
>
>Mike
Awesome point, Mike! I never thought of it that way (in regards to
Pharmaceutical Drugs)!. And your unique 'slant' on 'spirituality' *Wow's*
me as well...you sly dog you ;^). I see you possess a thorough
understanding of metaphysics, and wisdom as well. What you say makes total
sense.
Count me in!
Your friend,
xs10sual,
Empress Warrior
(I thought it was a bit more apt than 'Princess')
John Bailey
xs10sual wrote in message <8clr56$aqq6$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>...
>
>
>
>Tank you, John. I've decided not to be such a Crab.
>
>
Good. In that case, welcome to the group.
MARYGMARY
We are all human and no one is perfect. Anyone that tries to be and does not
recognize that they are is massivley insecure and needs therapy.
Love,
Mary
>Subject: Re: arm herpes & 'hand' herpes/4 John Bailey
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MARYGMARY
> Follows is my (xs10sual's) FIRST post (on this subject):
>
Hi,
Follow this........
I am not going to read all eighty of these posts of you attacking good people
here
go to deja and do this
look and you will see the same person sign their name as RemarQ User then type
that in the search with @* after it checking the boxes for all and complete and
then enter.
like this
RemarQ User@*
Go to post...it's a long way down or believe what I tell you
Post name made on 12/02/99
"Send mail relay-not a regular relay"
Check on highlighted "User" name
find this stuff
us...@domain.com
us...@freethought.in2home.co.uk
Same stuff different day...it's all a bit coincidental now aint it....this is a
real live troll
Maybe it's just a reach but it comes up the same every time with these kind of
leads and has the same names and places.....same newsgroups same MO....maybe
Dejanews.com is broken...lol
funny, I punch in other names and they come out pretty clean looking.......ha
also at excite.com and signs post as xs. I told you the other day in post
bring up xs@* and see what you find and click on messages and hightlighted
posts by xs ...same stuff funny now aint it?????????? Not to mention all the
usenet abuse reports at this address
NOT
Read headers...use your instinct and DEJA!!!!!!
Everyone beware of what you find when you look on the net!
Love,
Mary
M.L.S.
>Hi,
>Follow this........
>I am not going to read all eighty of these posts of you attacking good people
>here
Can you copy and paste one or two of them? With the headers? or at
least including the email addy?
>go to deja and do this
>
>look and you will see the same person sign their name as RemarQ User then type
>that in the search with @* after it checking the boxes for all and complete and
>then enter.
>like this
>RemarQ User@*
>Go to post...it's a long way down or believe what I tell you
>Post name made on 12/02/99
>"Send mail relay-not a regular relay"
I didn't find any "Send mail relay [...]"
>Check on highlighted "User" name
There are several "User"s. On Dec 2 1999 even. They are not all the
same people.
>find this stuff
>us...@domain.com
>us...@freethought.in2home.co.uk
I'm totally lost here. Instead of giving us a convoluted search to
do, why don't you do the search yourself, and copy an offending post
or two, complete with the headers that deja will give you if you click
on "View original Usenet format", and post it or them? I mean, you
are looking at them and it's a simple matter to copy and paste. That
way 20 people don't have to try and duplicate what you did. If you
have evidence of something don't post an acrostic to the evidence,
post the evidence itself with the headers and email addresses, etc.
>Same stuff different day...it's all a bit coincidental now aint it....this is a
>real live troll
Who is "this"? Post "this"'s real live troll post with headers.
The us...@freethought.in2home.co.uk person appears to be a lawyer, or
solicitor, in the UK. Does he have some controversial views? Does he
post to alt.support.herpes? I mean, what are you saying?
>Maybe it's just a reach but it comes up the same every time with these kind of
>leads and has the same names and places.....same newsgroups same MO....maybe
>Dejanews.com is broken...lol
Deja isn't broken, but there are quirks in the search engine,
especially when you punch in things like "Remarq User@*" in the Author
box.
For instance, I was surprised when I punched in M.L.S.@newsguy.com and
got all my a.s.h. posts because, while I've posted mostly through
newsguy I have never used the address as above. (There is no such
address) And that same search turned up about 600 posts that aren't
mine, a lot of them from various people ending in ".@newsguy.com"
(with a dot in the front).
>funny, I punch in other names and they come out pretty clean looking.......ha
There is a difference between punching in a legitimate email address
and things like "Remarq User@*". There are no spaces in a real email
address, and using such a search string will give you a much broader
search.
>also at excite.com and signs post as xs. I told you the other day in post
>bring up xs@* and see what you find and click on messages and hightlighted
>posts by xs ...same stuff funny now aint it?????????? Not to mention all the
>usenet abuse reports at this address
>NOT
Why don't you post one or two usenet abuse reports for "NOT". Unless
you do no one is going to be able to see what you are talking about.
Doing a search for xs@* finds 281 posts by several different people.
Which "stuff" is the same and who else's "stuff" is it similar to?
Post the "stuff". Saying "stuff" doesn't tell us anything. Show the
similar "stuff".
Tim Fitzmaurice
>
>
> karen wrote:
> >snipped
> >**** gee, Rhus Tox, a homeopathic remedy or another poison? Isn't that
> what
> >homeopathy is, introducing poisons into the body to force a reaction?
>
> No, sweetheart, that is not how Homeopathy *works*. I'd be very happy to
> explain how it works.
So would homeopaths.....discussions of mechanisms in homeopathy, potential
or otherwise, takes up quite a bit of space in journals of the field.
> Homeopathic medicine is based upon the Law of Similars. Like cures Like.
> In most remedies, not even one (1) molecule of the original substance which
> was introduced into the 'remedy' can be found.
Only if you are into Kentish theories or similar. Plenty of people still
use X scale stuff.
> >that's safer than a drug that's been tested for years and approved by the
> >FDA? Ha, I'll stick with my Famvir thank you very much.
> >K
> You must be young. You are certainly naive....the FDA?? ROTFLMAOWTRDMF!!!!!
It does its job as adequately as any human agency can. Its not perfect and
the usual line is 'they released this medicine early and it has XY or Z
side effect' usually followed a week later by a demand that they are too
slow on licensing something. Its not a place I;d ever want to work cos of
the damned if you do and damned if you don't problem. People like to have
someone to blame around.
Tim
When playing rugby, its not the winning that counts, but the taking apart
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Can I get in on the fun????
> Masta XS!!
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... Required 2 tickets for Cup Final ...
... Being a season ticket holder, I would only purchase of season ticket
holders who have a valid reason for not attending ... If you are a tout please
refrain from replying ..
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Tell that to Blackburn Rovers chairman.
"michael heraty" <m.he...@man0512x400.icl.co.uk> wrote:
>If a club has enough money it can win ANYTHING.
>Usually raised by screwing its own fans (who delight in handing
>it over !)...
>
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Subject: Newsgroup Posting on child Porn.
Date: 05/27/1999
Author: bbertles <p...@telusplanet.net>
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> On Tue, 25 May 1999 22:50:35 GMT, spirit...@hotmail.com (Direwolf)
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 23 May 1999 14:52:51 GMT, Crazy...@large.com (CrazyHorse)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Fri, 21 May 1999 23:50:08 -0400 (EDT), goo...@webtv.net wrote:
> >>
> >>>Should a child have the Right To Bodily Privacy?
> >>>
> >>>It's legal to take a photograph (or a thousand) of a child nude...and
> >>>publish it on the internet. It's not CP.
> >>>
> >>>No matter what their age, no matter what the child may think about
> >>>themselves being exposed to the entire world at that time... or anytime
> >>>later. And forever.
> >>>
> >>>Anybody can do it...to any child...and as much as they want to.
> >>>
> >>>Adults can do anything they want to with their bodies....as far as nude
> >>>photographs go. But should they have the right to do anything they want
> >>>to....as far as nude photogaphs go...with the bodies of OTHER PEOPLE ?
> >>>When those "other people" are under their control an "authority"..as in
> >>>the case of childen?
> >>>
> >>>Is every single child's entire body the photographic "property" of the
> >>>entire world ?
> >>>
> >>>Should children be allowed to have the Right to Bodily Privacy ?
> >>>
> >>>Or should adults be allowed to do anything they want to, in that regard.
> >>>
> >>>It seems kind of..."mean" to me....to take nude photos of your child and
> >>>publish them all over the world, on the internet. It might be something
> >>>YOU WANT TO DO.
> >>>
> >>>But does that make it...."right"?
> >>>
> >>>*******************
> >>>
> >>>If my parents had done that to me...I think I might be mad at them.
> >>>
> >>>**************************
> >>>
> >>>What do YOU think ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I think children are capable of deciding for themselves whether they
> >>want to be photographed nude or not.
> >>
> >>What do you think? Wait let me rephrase that. What does your herd
> >>think?
> >>
> >>CrazyHorse
> >>we shall not rest untill we have hung the last preist by the neck with the
intestines of the last politician.
> >
> >
> >Let me put it this way. I'm very sure that children in the media e.g.
> >actors, actresses and models are equally, if not more subject to such
> >"abuse." Since there are many times more clothing catalogues, films
> >featuring (gasp!) nudity and seminudity, I'm sure that they have, too,
> >"sold out their rights to privacy."
> >
> >Is it any different that a pedophile slobber over a nude image or
> >one that shows the child fully clad? Worse yet, how about when
> >the child is wearing a particular piece of clothing that is a fetish
> >object for the viewer?
> >
> >Hey, I've got the answer!!! Let's make it illegal to publish
> >*any* imagery containing persons under 18 in any medium.
> >That will protect their privacy from them hippie commie peeverts! :)
> >
> >Crazy Horse is right.
> >
> >In almost every case, legitimate photography - nude or otherwise -
> >is done with the informed consent of both the parents and children
> >involved. Far be it for me to dictate how they run their families.
> >
> >Bill
> >
> But bill you have broken the 11th commandment. thou shalt not think
> thine children can consent to anything.
>
> They are incapable of thinking that they might want to have their
> picture taken. if they do, it was done through the use of
> manipulation. Or the movies, music and internet made them think it was
> ok to do.
>
> Ya gotta beat this crap out of them so they can grow up normal.
>
> CrazyHorse
> we shall not rest untill we have hung the last preist by the neck with the
intestines of the last politician.
Having digested the above comments I would like to add my own visceral
response. As adults don't we have the responsibility to protect our children (
and those of our society ) from abuse and neglect no matter what form it
appears? I personally don't appreciate the idea of some pervert slobbering over
the picture of a child either clothed or naked and I'm going to do whatever I
can to prevent it in Canada. How about you?
Sonshine
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Love,
Mary
MARYGMARY
Date: 04/13/2000 2:00:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: MARYGMARY
To: MARYGMARY
When I went to look at crazyhorse@large I could not find a history any longer
so I enter
crazy*@large in deja news
and this is what came up....some nice gentelman re-posted the history for this
person
I click on alt.ohio.toledo post, which is on the border of Ohio ond West
Virginia where I just visited with Mike and find a letter from the reposter
which I will post at bottom
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>we shall not rest untill we have hung the last preist by the neck
>with the intestines of the last politician.
You know -- I *really* like something about this.
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>we shall not rest untill we have hung the last preist by the neck
>with the intestines of the last politician.
You know -- I *really* like something about this.
Ah, fantasies.
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YOURS MOST TRULY
LOVE,
MARY
M.L.S.
>Oh boy!
>Can I get in on the fun????
Sure you can. In fact, looks like you already did!!!
Subject: UK TEENS WORN PANTIES
Date: 10/18/1999
Author: Elin, Mary & Jane <us3g...@hotmail.com>
Would you like to buy mine or my two friends panties?Or maybe a pair
of pantyhose? Perhaps a sex toy? Whatever you want, just pop along to
our site and take a look, no pictures, no bullshit, just the real
thing
M.L.S.
>Oh boy!
>Can I get in on the fun????
I've always wondered what kind of fun trolls derive. Perhaps, Mary,
you could enlighten us as to the joy you are experiencing right now.
And I wonder when the anointed few are going to start sticking their
two cents onto the ends of Your posts.
xs10sual posted on 04/07/200 at 8:48:
>> Masta XS!!
So, Mary, bless her heart, in support of xs10sual, who has raging
herpes and is new to our little group, and doing her best to fit in
and get with the spirit of things, and despite getting off sort of on
the wrong foot isn't really doing so badly, so Mary, in helping
welcome a newcomer, went and found a three year old post about nipple
nooses with which to cheer everybody up. Cheers me up just thinking
about them. But nipple nooses are just about the only thing Mary
doesn't have hidden between her mattress and box springs. So that
makes them a bad thing, I guess. Or maybe Mary bought some recently
and really is just recommending them to xs10sual as sort of a
welcoming token? That is really sweet.
(more below)
>Forum: alt.personals.spanking
>Subject: Exciting Toy !!!!
>Date: 05/17/1997
>Author: Master XS <mast...@aol.com>
>NIPPLE NOOSES
<big snip>
>Send $19.95 to:
>SE
>P.O. 281
>Norton, MA 02766
>Love
>Mary
On the other hand, maybe Mary is just one pimple shy of a full
outbreak. She's taken xs10sual's name and her random comment "MASTA
XS" and managed to find, out of I don't know how many millions and
millions of posts to Usenet, the one single ad, posted a total of
seven times on May 17, 1997, and implied that our new xs10sual is none
other than the daring Master XS (mast...@aol.com) Nipple Noose Seller
(and probably a Nipple Noose Wearer, too.) OMIGOD.
And what if xs10sual IS the master NIPPLE NOOSE Goddess of Usenet??
Selling Nipple Nooses is an honest living at least. Tell 'em about
your fun on eBay, honey.
Of course, though, xs10sual (that sure is hard to type over and over)
and masterxs are not one and the same person. I can guarantee it and
I don't know anything about either person. How can I know that, you
ask? I've got all my marbles.
xs10sual. Do you now or have you ever lived in Norton MA? Ever had a
Post Office box there? You may plead the fifth, of course, but Swami
BhodhitreeVista will give you bad tummy ache if you do.
Oh, this is too much.
Love,
Mike
M.L.S.
>On 13 Apr 2000 04:07:36 GMT, mary...@aol.com (MARYGMARY) posted:
>>Oh boy!
>>Can I get in on the fun????
>Sure you can. In fact, looks like you already did!!!
Ooops. I forgot to copy the forum where Mary posted this. And I
wasn't in NY on Oct 18 of last year either. Who knew????
Forum: alt.sex.fetish.panties
MARYGMARY
Date: 04/13/2000 3:51:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: MARYGMARY
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Leslie
have to keep reading these arguments.
This is a support group where I can find information about my illness as it
were. You guys were here when I really needed it a few weeks ago and I
really appreciate it.
If I had read these arguments a few weeks ago, I would have been lost at a
time when I needed support the most! These posts make the forum look
ridiculous and cruel.
Please take arguments to a different forum. I don't care if a troll posts
here or not. Why does it matter if they get us off subject once in a while
or if we are "fooled"? I don't care. I just want to get information and
support.
Thanks for listening.
MARYGMARY
>>(soham/hamsa)
>
>It's not working for ya.
>
>Better yet, what the Thunder said: Datta, dayadhvam, damyata.
>
>Mike
This is only one example of your antics to try to make yourself look
inviting....
Worked just fine for me...
Like divining shit with a rod....
May a lightening bolt fly up your ass and hurl you back from wence you came..
to the depths of humanity
rashi shan harumundai.....(white on rice--that's me)
stupid is as stupid does......uhuh...
ROFLMAO at everything you say......especially that I would want you
back.....back where I should have left you that glorious night...get that
lawyer!
Mary
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8 soc.genealogy.computing
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MARYGMARY
there shows it under my web site which can be found easily enough and you know
it. Tell all the lies you like Lawrence Michael Soja??????I didn't write that
shit and I don't sell anything but antiques....you on the other hand are in
deep shit. LOL The only thing under the matress is a better freind than
you..hahaha
I hope everyone really looks at what I put there and sees what it is you are
doing here and everywhere and that you are stopped and that is not the only
stuff I have...I have a lot on you and so do the authorities!
run baby run...keep trying to troll those sites and delete those posts....the
truth shows.
Go away you miserable troll/spammer
Isn't what you have done enough?????????
Mary
MARYGMARY
This is what you do for a living
also I will be reading through agent where I can see the authors and am not
looking at anything you write ever again
Mary
MARYGMARY
hahahaa
LOVE,
Mary
>Subject: Re: arm herpes & 'hand' herpes/4 Smegma & Dude
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y.com!news-k12.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!not-for-mail
>From: "xs10sual" xs10...@prodigy.net
>Newsgroups: alt.support.herpes
>Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:33:30 -0700
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>GUYonphone wrote
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>>Why hostility? It's generally associated with fear and ignorance. I think
>the
>>main reward that a hostile person seeks, at least on newsgroups like this
>one,
>>is other's equally hostile reaction to what's said. I've found that that
>type
>>of reaction is unnecessary, and even counterproductive.
>
>AND YOU OUTTA KNOW! I repeat:
>"I guess only 'perfect' people, (like you, apparently) are arrogant and
>self-righteous enough to THROW STONES without conscience. At least
>I admit I'm an Ass (when I'm being one). I don't presume that my 'humility'
>is an excuse to THROW STONES at other people, without checking myself out
>first...
>>
>>Hang in there-G
>
>What's with all the "Hang(in) in there" Dude?
>
>Did trying to come up with a clever 'sig' every time you post become a
>problem for you?
>
>Your current 'sig' has become redundant and boring...the repetitiveness has
>made it without
>meaning - clueless, in fact. But, far worse than that...it's facetious. It
>reminds me of another
>person on a newsgroup (who shall go un-named); she used to sign every post
>"Respectfully",
>- and then, with her cunning ability to SUCK people into the BLACK HOLE of
>her so-called
>'friendship' she would suddenly turn on them.....Respectful?? Not on the
>long shot!
>
>So, come on, DUDE...you can do better than "Hang in there" - carry the news!
>Xpressively,
>xs
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cocoabeany
Huginlady
I really don't care to read anymore on this subject. I would think you would
both be happy you never have to see or talk to each other again. If you find
it necessary to pursue this, I suggest you both seek legal counsel and pursue
your allegations through the court.
Let's get on with what this board is intended for - herpes support.
Huginlady
M.L.S.
>I click on alt.ohio.toledo post, which is on the border of Ohio ond West
>Virginia
Can't you get anything right?
M.L.S.
posted:
>I don't know how everyone else feels, but I can't stay on this list if I
>have to keep reading these arguments.
I'm outta here, k? I'll be reading but nothing more from me in the
way of anything until something is resolved.
Adios to everyone. No, don't get up. Tootles.
Love,
Mike
MARYGMARY
I was hoping to help to do just that. When I see you all arguing with xs,
uncle kafka, and xdrlab I thought you may like to know who you are really
dealing with so that maybe you can all ignore them and the new ones in the
future............:-) Sometimes when a troll who has the same mo plagues a
group that person actually has a real identity and a real agenda...ya think
Next time someone is "horribly rude" maybe the whole group can not feed into
it.
Love,
Mary
good luck
>Subject: Re: please take your argument elsewhere
>Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail
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