About Tylenol
Linda Freeman
aceptaminophen. Phen-Phens are supposed to be muy dangerouso!?
Sara
wrote:
> I thought Tylenol was a no-no for the liver because it is an
> aceptaminophen. Phen-Phens are supposed to be muy dangerouso!?
tylenol is not great for your liver, but still the best thing you can
take as long as you stay within the acceptable amounts per day.
S
Linda Freeman
the Interferon treatment. Any comments? I do know that Tylenol is
advisable because it is not supposed to clash with many medicines. The
next headache I get, I'm gonna see if rubbing lemon rind on the temples
and wrapping your head in a towel works. For the sake of an example,
perhaps its better to suffer now than to do so in hell where there is no
physical remedy; a mind and its generational curses that has suffered
will be cleansed from its desire to resort to actions that cause pain.
Not one jot nor titel shall pass away but perhaps we can be sure that
the way that our nature is inclined to go is toward perfection and away
from destruction. Evidence may be found in the fact that when one covers
the symptoms of a dis-ease with a band-aid,the fact still remains that
there is an underlying cause that requires its way of working itself
out, either by a mind enlightened which therefore brings light to the
body or by physiological means. Perhaps you have already said, "Then
why the lemon rind?" Well, one day we shall see that all we have ever
needed is right before us and we shall not have to add injury. I won't
do this Interferon treatment unless the benefits outweigh the quality of
the life I have now since I am 50 years old, I've had Hep C for 31
years, achieved my goals and even though my doctor ses I have an
inflamed liver, it could just be from that anti-biotic I took and I may
be one of the l/3 who is A-symptomatic. My skin has cleared up which
indicates to me that I am not getting worse. I'm feeling chatty.
Waterspider
"Linda Freeman" <lfreemanli...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Liver damage caused by hepatitis C, in most people, shows few or no
noticable symptoms until end-stage disease. Symptoms are often attributed to
something else, and develop so gradually that patients do not realize that
they are experiencing them (they believe that the fatigue, aches and other
symptoms are normal for them at their age). Cleared-up skin does not mean
that you're not getting worse. Chattiness does not mean that you're not
getting worse.
Here's how hepatitis C destroys your liver:
One virus attaches itself to one liver cell (hepatocyte), then moves inside
the cell to replecate (make copies of itself). A patient with chronic
hepatitis C will have hundreds of thousands or millions of copies of the
virus in their liver. Inside the liver cell, once the new copies of the
virus reach a critical mass, the liver cell is burst open and thus
destroyed. This happens much faster than the liver can produce replacement
cells. This liver damage is shown by scarring or fibrosis. On average, in a
patient who is otherwise healthy and does not drink alcohol, it takes 20-30
years for fibrosis to develop. It is categorized by severity in stages, with
Stage 1 being mild fibrosis and Stage 4 being cirrhosis. There is no Stage 5
because the patients is now dead. Cirrhosis, which causes a number of
unpleasant symptoms, leads to liver cancer and death.
An enlightened mind will not kill the hepatitis C virus, nor will colloidal
silver, milkthistle or any of the numerous "cures" advertised on the
internet; it requires treatment with pegylated interferon and ribavirin.
Treatment, whether or not it erradicates the HCV, often reverses fibrosis by
one or two stages if the damage has not yet progressed to cirrhosis.
Staging of liver damage is the only rational way to decide whether or not to
undergo treatment. At Stage 1, you can safely monitor the disease progress
and hope for an easier treatment to be developed. By Stage 4, you can hope
that the disease has not progressed past the point where you are even a
candidate for treatment. Note that liver damage can progress one or two
stages in as quickly as a year.
A liver biopsy measures the stage of your liver damage. It is NOT indicated
by liver function blood tests, ultrasound, x-rays and/or symptoms or lack
thereof. Your inflamed liver may or may not relate to your hep C,
antibiotics typically do not cause an inflamation of the liver, and liver
inflamation does not indicate the degree of damage caused by hep C.
Most likely your quality of life at the moment is better than it will be on
treatment, but know this: without treatment, your quality of life will
steadily deteriorate as the virus continues to destroy your liver cells and
thus your liver's ability to do its job.
You may have "achieved your goals" in life, but you're younger than me and I
find it difficult to imagine being prepared to give up and die rather than
treat the disease that's killing you. I'll take a wild guess that you're
suffering from depression (which can be caused by hepatitis C), and strongly
suggest that you discuss this with your doctor.
Linda Freeman
cancer from the treatment. If you take medicine for depression caused
by the treatment, you may end up having to take it the rest of your
life. Medicine for diabetes and cancer as well. If you get pneumonia
from it, that further causes damage to your lungs. I have a tendency to
get bronchitis because of walking pneumonia I had as a teenager and
allergies and the idea of not being able to breath is a real concern.
I have an irregular heartbeat and I am menopausing which puts my heart
at a greater risk. Remember that l/3 will not die from the Hep. You
can make yourself feel sicker/lessen the effectiveness of the treatment
by taking remedies with it. We do have to suffer consequences. A
babysitter of mine once told me that if you are accepting of
consequences even though you did not purposely do wrong, things will go
alot easier for you.
I have noticed that some of the things that are listed as side-effects
of the interferon or mild symptoms/things are happening to my body right
now. I have a glob of fat the size of a golf-ball in one of my breasts
but the mammogram showed that was all it was. Your body might form fat
deposits when you have Hep C. I do have dull aches in my head when the
sun hits my head for more than a few minutes,, walking too much in high
heels, etc. Almost every joint in my body has hurt at one time or
another, frequently since I turned 50. My poop has been soft or looser
for a long time and since I have been eating more meat lately, hard.
Waterspider, I am more of a believer of Christian Science than any other
belief structure I have heard of. So you see, I am not afraid that
there is a chance that I will burn in a lake of fire for all of
eternity; an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth means that the
correction be equal to the crime/mis-take. Depression is an internal
act of aggression and a philosopher once said that you can't hold anyone
responsible for being as stupid as they are or not as intelligent as
they could be. I went to the doctors to maintain my health, not to be
treated for being sick. The closer a treatment is to being a sure thing
is the measure of its validity. Do not think that since we are living
in 2009 and there have been many advances throughout the years that I am
going to offer myself up as a lab rat. Interferon IS dangerous and so
is Hep C.
Waterspider
"Linda Freeman" <lfreemanli...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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(perhaps this is why quality of life is important to me, and why I value
life; it's a one-time adventure). Yes, I am aware that everyone dies; sorry
if I led you to assume I believed otherwise.
I agree that interferon, and ribavirin, are dangerous, but I also believe
(because it is supported by science) that untreated hepatitis C is more
dangerous. You mentioned symptoms similar to treatment side-effects; that's
been discussed here before, and it seems that many symptoms of hep C are
identical to the side-effects of treatment, e.g. depression, fatigue, muscle
aches, joint pains, headache and more. With hep C, I had these symptoms for
years. Since completing treatment, they are gone.
A note about red meat-- a by-product of its digestion is ammonia. With a
compromised liver, this toxin isn't properly removed from your body. Instead
of being filtered out of the bloodstream in the liver, it makes its way to
your brain, where it can cause headache, lethargy and confusion. Wouldn't
hurt to experiment with your diet by giving up red meat for a period of time
to see if you notice a difference.
Linda Freeman
From: Linda Freeman
Subject: Response to Waterspider
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:25 AM

Being an Atheist, you are at least not hypnotised and I am ecstatic
about that. I do see the value though in focusing on Spirit instead of
my body in this venture. You may refer to Spirit as your intellect
though being an Essene in some ways, I will refer to the Chariot: the
Chariot being the body, Reason the Intellect and Spirit the driver. If
there were no Spirit, Reason would have nothing to choose from and
therefore, the body would have no alternative. PERHAPS YOU COULD
ENLIGHTEN ME ON YOUR FORM OF DISTRACTION.
I am most interested in this aspect as I am preparing, putting oil in my
lamp to prepare for my descent into that dark state of illusion. I
refuse to believe that I am not the progeny of Perfection and I am only
steps away from the realization that being Spirit, I am the mistress of
the Chariot. Fear and pride as well as anger are reasons for
depression:
NO MATTER Mon Cher for I shall reason my way out of the supposed bondage
of this stupid flesh and the futility of fear and pride since I consider
myself immortal. Until a fledgling Spirit is enlightened it will just
in-habit another form of its creation: flesh. True realization brings
with it Health since dis-ease is swalloed up by Ease.
JUST ASK LINDA
Char
> People do die, Waterspider and so will you. People do get diabetes and
> cancer from the treatment. If you take medicine for depression caused
> by the treatment, you may end up having to take it the rest of your
> life. Medicine for diabetes and cancer as well.
In my case I had diabetes, high blood pressure and depression for
several years. I did the interferon and riboviron treatment (along with
some herbal help) and all three went away. Unfortunately I did not stay
clear of the hepatitis and after a few months they all came back again.
The good news is that now I know that in the future should I clear then
my other problems are likely to go away. I don't know if this is typical
but it's my experience.
Char
Sara
how long did you do the treatments, char?