Michael W. Ridenhour FAQ - Second Edition
Geo. Washington
Michael W. Ridenhour is a practicing Audiologist and frequent
poster to "alt.support.hearing-loss" where he has built the
reputation of a "Jekyll & Hyde" Serial Bully. He has a history
of posting to different groups under many different pseudonyms,
including but not limited to:
Gandolf the wise
mic...@ridenhour.com
gan...@infi.net
"Thos. Jefferson" <TJeff@ monticello.org>
He also has a website at: http://www.ridenhour.com, where you
may view his picture and where his name appears nine different
times on a single page, some instances go so far as to include
the questionable prefix of "Dr."
He seems not to be satisfied with normal discourse of
dispensing information and guidance in a support group
such as "alt.support.hearing-loss" without being rude and
provocative to others, both new comers and regulars, alike.
He is very knowledgeable and informative when he chooses
to be, however his propensity for confrontation, overshadows
these contributions and many choose to just "click on By" or
"Plonk" his offerings due to his track record.
Michael can best be characterized for his pervasive pattern
of grandiosity and self-importance, need for admiration,
and lack of empathy. He consistently dwells on his
abilities and inflated accomplishments, often appears
boastful and pretentious, while underestimating and
devaluing the achievements and accomplishments of others.
He has an expectation of superior entitlement, expecting
others to defer to them, and a lack of sensitivity especially
when others do not react in the expected manner. He seems
to delight in harassing new newsgroup posters which feed his
need for personal confrontation. His provocative behavior has
been conveniently archived at http://www.google.com/groups,
where numerous occurrences may be found for substantiation.
A few prime examples as follows:
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Example No. 1
One of the more conclusive posts to evidence Ridenhour's
propensity to be provocative is the following post by George
Lawrence, posting as "drumguru (drum...@home.comLINT)"
Subject: Re: Michael Ridenhour FAQ/ Bully Report (long)
Newsgroups: alt.support.hearing-loss
Date: 1999/06/26
Archived at Google groups and accessible by clicking on the
following shortened link: http://tinyurl.com/2w8vn
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Example No. 2
From: Allen & Charlene Adams (c...@jps.ns.net)
Subject: Michael Ridenhour and the garbage he flaunts
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.christia
Date: 1995/11/20
Archived at Google groups and accessible by clicking on the
following shortened link: http://tinyurl.com/2cz8o
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Example No. 3
From: Douglas Sirman (Doug_...@msn.com)
Subject: Re: why do you think we're here?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.christia
Date: 1995/11/19
Archived at Google groups and accessible by clicking on the
following shortened link: http://tinyurl.com/2dfbn
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Example No. 4
From: Michael Gorga (GO...@BoysTown.ORG) *see note #1 below
Subject: OAE systems
Newsgroups: bionet.audiology
Date: 1997/03/12
Archived at Google groups and accessible by clicking on the
following shortened link:http://tinyurl.com/24qgg
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Example No. 5
From: mikey (gan...@infi.net)
Subject: Re: The words we use matter
Newsgroups: bionet.audiology
Date: 1996/11/21
Archived at Google groups and accessible by clicking on the
following shortened link:http://tinyurl.com/3ckxt
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Michael was subsequently drummed out of the "bionet.audiology"
group by his Audiologist and Hearing Aid Dispensing peers after
being berated by the group moderator for his rude behavior.
(Note No.1 - Michael P. Gorga, Ph.D. Director, Human Sensory
Physiology at Boys Town National Research Hospital, is a well
respected authority in the field of Audiology and the target
of one of Michael's provocative rude attacks.)
Compiled, edited and published periodically by Sordo ™ as
a service to those so victimized.
John Fuller
In article <h2reuvgjnarla349m...@4ax.com>, Geo. Washington wrote:
> Michael W. Ridenhour FAQ - Second Edition
>
>Michael W. Ridenhour is a practicing Audiologist and frequent
>poster to "alt.support.hearing-loss" where he has built the
>reputation of a "Jekyll & Hyde" Serial Bully. He has a history
George,
I want to send you an email, but need a valid address. Please emial me one
if you wish. I don't really want to post a personal message here.
Thank you.
-John Fuller, HOH
--
"We are the things dreams are made of."
--Wm. Shakespeare
Dennis G.
>Michael W. Ridenhour is a practicing Audiologist and frequent
>poster to "alt.support.hearing-loss" where he has built the
>reputation of a "Jekyll & Hyde" Serial Bully.
You have too much free time. Get a hobby !
Dennis
Thos. Jefferson
"Dennis G." <deg...@telus.net> wrote in message
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What is funny about this is that I'm called a bully. This fellow posts my
name, address, etc. for everyone to see. This is true bullying, hoping that
fear will cause me to stop posting here. Disagreeing with someone, even if
the person doesn't like it, is not bullying.
I know who he is, who Henry is and who the others are. It is not seemly to
have such wanton disregard for the safety of another person, no matter how
much you may despise him, so I would never reveal their names and addresses.
I had hoped that others in this group would recognize pathological excess
such as found in his passive-aggressive threat, and I have let this go on to
show just how far this fellow will go, but have not seen recognition of this
from hardly anyone yet
But that's ok. As Henry says, I have a remarkably thick skin.
Henry adds to the fires and then backs away, expressing his regret that
things have reached such a state, holier than thou, as usual.
Fine.
Bring it on!
Michael
Thos. Jefferson
"Geo. Washington" <gw...@mountvernon.org> wrote in message
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>
> Michael was subsequently drummed out of the "bionet.audiology"
> group by his Audiologist and Hearing Aid Dispensing peers after
> being berated by the group moderator for his rude behavior.
>
>
This is an outright lie, but it is what I expect from this venomous
individual. I have never been "drummed out" of any newsgroup. It is not a
crime to express an opinion, even if many others do not agree with you.
Disagreement is not rude. Rude is calling people by scatological
terminology, a tactic for which Sordo/JohnFuller is well known throughout
the 'net. I was never berated by a moderator of any newsgroup, for that
matter.
I would suggest anger management for Sordo/JohnFuller, but he has to see
himself as others do before that would be effective.
Michael
EarGuy
> may view his picture and where his name appears nine different
> times on a single page, some instances go so far as to include
> the questionable prefix of "Dr."
Regardless of his behavior or opinions, he earned a doctorate degree. He
earned the title "Dr." and it is not questionable. He has a right to the
title "Dr." just like a psychologist, optometrist, chemist, or college
professor. It is not misrepresenting himself as a physician. Using the
title is valid.
Dave
ken kerrison
profession, even if a phd has been earnt, to use the title is an
affectation. In Australia, for instance, dentists and vets attach this
tag to themselves. In the case of dentists it is particularly odd
because that profession is generally rated rather higher than doctors.
For instance any research results showing that a particular treatment
is bad or unwise will always see some medical specialist speak out to
muddy the waters to protect his livlihood. In contrast, at the height
of the flouride controversy not one of this country's dentists did
this. Rather they and their organisations and faculties all strongly
supported flouridation. The medical profession seems to have more than
its share of cynical parasites. But if you are not a member of that
profession you are not a doctor - not in the eyes of your neighbours.
As I say, it is not an issue of status. Simply one of language.
OOO...@usmc.net
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> Doctor, in common usage, means medical practitioner. For any other
> profession, even if a phd has been earnt, to use the title is an
> affectation.
Common usage changes with time. The oldest use of the term "doctor" derives
from the French "to teach", I think, and was awarded to those particularly
learned and respected in their field, and qualified to instruct others. I
think that anyone who earns a doctorate today, in any field, from an
accredited institution should be permitted to use that title -
even/especially if the field is medicine...
For the record, attaining a PhD or DSc (doctor of science) degree often
represents more work and more years than does a medical degree (MD) or law
degree (sometimes Juris Doctor, or JD). When considering that claim,
remember that in medicine the degree is awarded immediately upon graduation
from medical school - which is followed by internship, residency, etc.
Bottom line (as I see it!):
A PhD, DSc, JD, DDS, MD, Au.D, etc., is entitled to the use of the honorific
when he introduces himself or signs a document, but it should be considered
by others as a sign of respect. That applies to Mr. Ridenhour. 8^)
User
>may view his picture and where his name appears nine different
>times on a single page, some instances go so far as to include
>the questionable prefix of "Dr."
I don't know this guy from the next, but are you accusing him of
obtaining his AUD degree by fraud ?
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> >the questionable prefix of "Dr."
>
> I don't know this guy from the next, but are you accusing him of
> obtaining his AUD degree by fraud ?
I'm in the interesting position of defending Ridenhour, but let me make it
clear that it's his credentials I'm defending, not the fool himself. One of
our interns reported that whoever is in the photo on his website indeed DID
get an Au.D. from Still, a fourth-tier (but accredited) institution in Mesa,
Arizona. That's not "downtown", but it's a doctorate.
tls...@concentric.net
<gw...@mountvernon.org> took a very strange color crayon and
scribbled:
>On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:08:18 -0800, "OOHRAH!@USMC.net"
><OOORAH!@USMC.net> wrote:
>
>>A PhD, DSc, JD, DDS, MD, Au.D, etc., is entitled to the use of the honorific
>>when he introduces himself or signs a document, but it should be considered
>>by others as a sign of respect. That applies to Mr. Ridenhour. 8^)
>
>Respect is an entity which is earned from peers not something mandated
>by a piece of worthless paper bestowed on anyone with the price from a
>diploma mill.
That has nothing to do with using the word "doctor" in a legitimate
fashion. I don't see where any laws were broken.
--
Therese Shellabarger / The Roving Reporter - Civis Mundi
tls...@concentric.net / http://tlshell.cnc.net/
ken kerrison
common usage comes across as affectation. For a PhD to use his title
in academic exchanges is appropriate. But on a ski trip it may lead to
his being asked to help someone who has broken their leg.
But it occurs to me that usage changes constantly and is affected by
other languages. Gemanic influences on usage are very limited in
Australia but more evident in the US. I have the impression that
honorifics feature much more in German than in English 'Herr Doctor
postmaster'.
Some of those who have participated in this exchange may reflect such
values but US literature and other media content suggest that usage of
'doctor' there is pretty much the same as here.
Anyone want a debate on the word 'proactive'? Or the use of 'grow' as
an active verb ('grow your money')?
ken kerrison
http://www.word-detective.com/backidx.html#P
I look forward to many happy hours exploring it.
HLE
"ken kerrison" <kker...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> common usage comes across as affectation.
Concidentally, today I received a holiday greeting from an old friend in the
UK. He's a military surgeon, and during our chat I recalled that in England,
surgeons go by the title "Mister". He confirmed that it's still so.
rnf2
"HLE" <OORAH!@USMC.ret> wrote in message
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Same here in NZ, call a surgeon doctor and you're insulting him, we're far
close to the english meanings of words and word useages than the american.
rhys
User
<gw...@mountvernon.org> wrote
>>
>>I don't know this guy from the next, but are you accusing him of
>>obtaining his AUD degree by fraud ?
>
What does this look like to you ?
>>times on a single page, some instances go so far as to include
>>>the questionable prefix of "Dr."
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User
>> I don't know this guy from the next, but are you accusing him of
>> obtaining his AUD degree by fraud ?
>
>
>I'm in the interesting position of defending Ridenhour, but let me make it
>clear that it's his credentials I'm defending, not the fool himself. One of
>our interns reported that whoever is in the photo on his website indeed DID
>get an Au.D. from Still, a fourth-tier (but accredited) institution in Mesa,
>Arizona. That's not "downtown", but it's a doctorate.
4th tier ? Granted it's not Vanderbilt, but who decides tiers
? And who are you're "interns" I'm not part of this feud this NG
seems to be involved in, but would like to know why some of the
accusations are made. The guy may be an a******, but he seems to have
the proper credentials.
OOO...@usmc.net
> The guy may be an a******, but he seems to have the proper credentials.
You're absolutely correct on both counts.
ModernMiko
> order Doctorate degrees ?
>
> http://www.ashs.edu/audiology/prog_au_distance.htm
>
> Doctor of Audiology (Au.D.) Transitional Degree Program
> (distance education)
>
> (distance education) = correspondence school
>
> My suspicions are confirmed and I rest my case.......
Then you need to do a little more research because this is not a "mail order
Doctorate degree." I am not affiliated with the school (opting to work on a
PhD instead of an AuD) but know several people who have completed their
degrees through AZ or through distance education courses at Univ of FL and
Vanderbilt. These distance education programs are mechanisms by which
current audiologists can earn an AuD without having to forego work. I have
heard a lot of descriptions of the teachers, courses, and work involved from
both those who have attended and prominent people in the field and none of
these have included the terms "easy" or "mail order degree."
--
Jenn
DS 06/26/98
1 tiny angel 11/03
OOO...@usmc.net
"ModernMiko" <moder...@NOverizon.net> wrote in message
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> Then you need to do a little more research because this is not a "mail
order
> Doctorate degree."
I agree -
Still is on the lowest rung of the accreditation ladder, but it's "mail
order" only in the sense that no residency is required. Still charges only
$5,000 total for the Au.D. -- that's amazingly cheap, but it's an accredited
doctorate.
Bill M
correct usage of honorifics.
I've seen engineers bristle at who is being called an engineer. Do software
engineers deserve to be called "engineeers?" The title evolved from those
who operate engines and boilers, who continue to use the term as their own.
The educated guys who are offended by software engineers tolerate coal
shovelers using the title. The guys who run engines and boilers don't care
who calls himself an engineer.
Now that I've learned about surgeons being addressed as "Mr." I'm happy with
the usages. This is so cool! Somehow this brought full circle closure.
Bill M
ken kerrison
weasel way of going around the specialist/mister thing. I have heard
that surgeons are called Mr. rather than Doctor but all the
specialists used by this family - about a dozen of them - are called
doctor by their patients and their staff. Maybe here the surgeons have
decided to climb aboard the Dr. wagon with the vets and dentists.
tls...@concentric.net
>(distance education) = correspondence school
>
>My suspicions are confirmed and I rest my case.......
Yours maybe, but in fact, distance education is the wave of the future
for people who need to work and keep their education current while
still maintaining a home life with all the responsibilities these
activities entail.
HLE
intent was to keep Mr. Hyde under control so he wouldn't abuse passers-by,
scaring away potentially useful contributions, tidbits of good information.
Now it's the obverse of the coin.
In the face of this critique Dr. Jekyll has become silent, yet he DOES have
an Au.D., he DOES have serious professional skills, and DOES generate
meaningful insights.
Just my $2 (inflation, you know).
*********************************
Michael -
Come out, come out, wherever you are!
ken kerrison
nothing'. I have been active in this group for longer than most and
have found that the correct response to rude or abusive posts is to
ignore them.