The thread: what changed your mind about L. Ron Hubbard is completely ridiculous
Barbara Schwarz
Because those posters mix L. Ron Hubbard (deliberately) up with his
impostor, Jack Vistaril who was hired by a German secret service to be
L. Ron Hubbard's doppelganger and to ruin L. Ron Hubbard's excellent
reputation as a true humanitarian.
Jack Vistaril impostored the founder of Scientology for many decades.
Compare the photos and the video footage. Get high definition photos
and enlarged the photos. Then start measuring and you'll see (if you
were not hired by the same secret service to cover that lie up that L.
Ron Hubbard was not impostored) that L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of
Dianetics and Scientology was impostored by
another guy.
Barbara Schwarz
--
Garry (Gary Lynn) Scarff in Los Angeles keeps on lying about me
cowardly and defaming me behind posting identities Smurf and
AngryGayPope. He lies to Anonymous and anybody else and they are
clueless about how he trolls them. The information on the RFW about
notorious liar Garry Scarff who does anything for money and fame are
true: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/garry-scarff/
Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
to me in the past:
http://de.nntp2http.com/soc/weltanschauung/scientology/2009/10/590f4036a35b3d86e04b38e37282ab04.html
Tigger
wrote:
> And why?
>
> Because those posters mix L. Ron Hubbard (deliberately) up with his
> impostor, Jack Vistaril who was hired by a German secret service to be
> L. Ron Hubbard's doppelganger and to ruin L. Ron Hubbard's excellent
> reputation as a true humanitarian.
>
> Jack Vistaril impostored the founder of Scientology for many decades.
>
> Compare the photos and the video footage. Get high definition photos
> and enlarged the photos. Then start measuring and you'll see (if you
> were not hired by the same secret service to cover that lie up that L.
> Ron Hubbard was not impostored) that L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of
> Dianetics and Scientology was impostored by
> another guy.
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
> --
O.K. Barbara a few simple questions. Let's see if you can answer
them.
1. Date Hubbard was impostered...........
2. Who is/was Jack Vistaril?
3. Who besides you and RR claim there was a Hubbard dopplegange?
Tigger
hoser1605
wrote:
> And why?
>
> Because those posters mix L. Ron Hubbard (deliberately) up with his
> impostor, Jack Vistaril who was hired by a German secret service to be
> L. Ron Hubbard's doppelganger and to ruin L. Ron Hubbard's excellent
> reputation as a true humanitarian.
>
> Jack Vistaril impostored the founder of Scientology for many decades.
>
> Compare the photos and the video footage. Get high definition photos
> and enlarged the photos. Then start measuring and you'll see (if you
> were not hired by the same secret service to cover that lie up that L.
> Ron Hubbard was not impostored) that L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of
> Dianetics and Scientology was impostored by
> another guy.
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
> Garry (Gary Lynn) Scarff in Los Angeles keeps on lying about me
> cowardly and defaming me behind posting identities Smurf and
> AngryGayPope. He lies to Anonymous and anybody else and they are
> clueless about how he trolls them. The information on the RFW about
> notorious liar Garry Scarff who does anything for money and fame are
> true:http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/garry-...
>
> Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
> to me in the past:http://de.nntp2http.com/soc/weltanschauung/scientology/2009/10/590f40...
Barbara Schwarz
> On Nov 30, 2:53 pm, Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > And why?
>
> > Because those posters mix L. Ron Hubbard (deliberately) up with his
> > impostor, Jack Vistaril who was hired by a German secret service to be
> > L. Ron Hubbard's doppelganger and to ruin L. Ron Hubbard's excellent
> > reputation as a true humanitarian.
>
> > Jack Vistaril impostored the founder of Scientology for many decades.
>
> > Compare the photos and the video footage. Get high definition photos
> > and enlarged the photos. Then start measuring and you'll see (if you
> > were not hired by the same secret service to cover that lie up that L.
> > Ron Hubbard was not impostored) that L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of
> > Dianetics and Scientology was impostored by
> > another guy.
>
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> > --
>
> O.K. Barbara a few simple questions. Let's see if you can answer
> them.
>
> 1. Date Hubbard was impostered...........
Duh! Shirley, I didn't hire him. Ask the German Secret Service when
they started to impostor him. Ron was defamed in German papers already
before the Dianetics book was published. L. Ron Hubbard is for sure
not the guy with the long hair who died in 1986 and he is also not the
babbling guy who is together with MSH on the Apollo.
>
> 2. Who is/was Jack Vistaril?
You should ask the German Secret Service that but DM and Pat Broker
probably know too who that man really was. But he was not L. Ron
Hubbard, the founder of Scientology. That is a 100% sure.
>
> 3. Who besides you and RR claim there was a Hubbard dopplegange?
Who cares. Important is just that it is true.
Barbara Schwarz
--
Garry (Gary Lynn) Scarff in Los Angeles keeps on lying about me
cowardly and defaming me behind posting identities Smurf and
AngryGayPope. He lies to Anonymous and anybody else and they are
clueless about how he trolls them. The information on the RFW about
notorious liar Garry Scarff who does anything for money and fame are
true: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/garry-scarff/
Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
to me in the past:
http://de.nntp2http.com/soc/weltanschauung/scientology/2009/10/590f4036a35b3d86e04b38e37282ab04.html
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Tigger
Duh, Barbara, if that is so....then your claim about being Hubbard's
daughter should be that the Hubbaard doppleganger, not Hubbard was
your father. You can't have it both ways. Besides yoou must have
gotten your information and that Jack Vistaril name somewhere. So
where did you get it?
>
>
>
> > 2. Who is/was Jack Vistaril?
>
> You should ask the German Secret Service that but DM and Pat Broker
> probably know too who that man really was. But he was not L. Ron
> Hubbard, the founder of Scientology. That is a 100% sure.
No, I'm asking you. Where did you get your information? Why am I
and everybody else escept maybe RR.....100 per cent sure you made the
whole thing up?
>
>
>
> > 3. Who besides you and RR claim there was a Hubbard dopplegange?
>
> Who cares. Important is just that it is true.
LOL....try telling that to a judge or a jury. It's only true in your
delusions and that can be proved. You can't prove a damn thing you
claim is true.
Vistaril is a drug that Hubbard was taking, not a last name.
The case against L. Ron Hubbard still stands....Hubbard was a liar, a
thief, a coward, a bigamist, a conman and an abuser.
Tigger
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
> --
Richard Ford
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Barbra needs to look at her own motivations for posting this stuff. It
may be for some sense of significance or it may be to reenforce her
internal delusions. Either way it is NOT to convince others of
anything.
She is happy in her own little world.
husk
Tigger has a point here. Being LRH's daughter, you would have
knowledge of him through your mother, if not first hand. At what
point did your mother notice that LRH did not appear to be the man she
was with? When she found out, what actions did she take to make
people aware? If anyone would recognize a difference and pinpoint a
date, it would be your mother. What does/did she have to say about
it?
Barbara loves Marty
> On Nov 30, 3:32 pm, Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com>
> wrote:
>
I am not Jack Vistaril's and Mary Sue's daughter. I am the daughter of
the original founder of Scientology, the one who got the security name
L. Ron Hubbard from the CIA to "protect" him against Nazi crimes.
It depends how dumb and corrupt the judge and the jury would be. But
enlarged high definition photos of what people think L. Ron Hubbard is
and a FBI or CIA specialist memo showing that the feature of all these
photos were measured and pointing out the differences between them
would convince a judge and jury. If the judge and jury is biased,
there are legal ways to get them off the case.
The other questions, I answered already. Google them, as I do not like
to repeat myself constantly.
But once again, those who were around Jack before he died, Pat Broker
and Ann Broker (Tidwell) called him also Jack. They knew it was not
the original L. Ron Hubbard. Just as Mr. Texas is not the original
Marty.
Barbara Schwarz
--
Garry (Gary Lynn) Scarff in Los Angeles keeps on lying about me
cowardly and defaming me behind posting identities Smurf and
AngryGayPope. He lies to Anonymous and anybody else and they are
clueless about how he trolls them. The information on the RFW about
notorious liar Garry Scarff who does anything for money and fame are
true: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/garry-scarff/
Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
to me in the past:
http://de.nntp2http.com/soc/weltanschauung/scientology/2009/10/590f4036a35b3d86e04b38e37282ab04.html
>
>
>
>
Barbara loves Marty
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You would not have posted this defamatory posting if you would not be
concerned that I will convince others.
My world is huge not little.
Barbara loves Marty
She has no point at all, Husk.
>Being LRH's daughter, you would have
> knowledge of him through your mother, if not first hand.
You don't know my story. My Mom, Ron's only wife (the other wife's
were those of the impostor) was murdered during giving birth to me.
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hide gave her a drug that made her heart stop.
After my birth I was a while with Ron, my dad but then I was kidnapped
to Germany given to another woman, a German national as her child.
Barbara Schwarz
husk
That's sad.
If the following is too personal feel free not to answer.
Wikepedia claims Ron's first wife was Margaret "Polly" Grubb, whom he
married in 1933. Is this false? Was Scientology not strong enough
when you were kidnapped for Scientologists to get you back to Ron? I
assume this didn't happen pre-Scientology or the Germans would have no
reason to be involved.
Tigger
On Dec 1, 10:28 am, Barbara loves Marty
<barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 30, 4:22 pm, Tigger <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30, 3:32 pm, Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com>
> > wrote:
>
> I am not Jack Vistaril's and Mary Sue's daughter. I am the daughter of
> the original founder of Scientology, the one who got the security name
> L. Ron Hubbard from the CIA to "protect" him against Nazi crimes.
Another one of your hallucinations? Even
Scientology never claimed anything like that.
.
>
> It depends how dumb and corrupt the judge and the jury would be. But
> enlarged high definition photos of what people think L. Ron Hubbard is
> and a FBI or CIA specialist memo showing that the feature of all these
> photos were measured and pointing out the differences between them
> would convince a judge and jury. If the judge and jury is biased,
> there are legal ways to get them off the case.
Pure speculation. I'm asking for the evidence you have to support
your claims.
Mocking up scenarios to fit your ever-changing stories don't support
anything.
It just proves you make up bullshit stories.
>
> The other questions, I answered already. Google them, as I do not like
> to repeat myself constantly.
LOL....you honestly don't expect anyone to accept that dumb excuse do
you, when you CONSTANTLY post about Hubbard and Rathbun
dopplegangers?
>
> But once again, those who were around Jack before he died, Pat Broker
> and Ann Broker (Tidwell) called him also Jack. They knew it was not
> the original L. Ron Hubbard. Just as Mr. Texas is not the original Marty.
How do you know this? Were you there?
If, indeed they were calling Hubbard "Jack", was that not to hide his
real identity because he could have been sent to jail with his wife,
Mary Sue and other Scientologists?
VISTARIL is a psych drug that was found in Hubbard's body. I think
it was also found in Michael Jackson's body. Apparently you have
your "stories" mixed up. Where is there any mention of a Jack
VISTARIL except in your posts?
.
Tigger
Peter Widmer
Tigger is right.
And why not "Lisa and Mike Mitchell" instead of Ann and Pat Broeker?
Psychobarbie, you're a 'M�rchentante', a teller of fairy tales :-)
Peter
>
> VISTARIL is a psych drug that was found in Hubbard's body. I think
> it was also found in Michael Jackson's body. Apparently you have
> your "stories" mixed up. Where is there any mention of a Jack
> VISTARIL except in your posts?
> .
>
> Tigger
>
--
Peter Widmer <pwi...@quicknet.ch>
3803 Beatenberg <http://www.pewid.ch>
Barbara loves Marty
I am a 100 % sure that there were at least two people by the name L.
Ron Hubbard, Husk. I do believe that the founder of Scientology, the
person known as L. Ron Hubbard had another name, his real name that he
could not use as upon order of the CIA who gave him then the name L.
Ron Hubbard.
What does it mean? It means that there is one name, L. Ron Hubbard and
at least two different activities by two very different people. Just
as there are two Marty Rathbun's both very different individuals and
very different activities. It is possible that a man whose name is
really Lafayette Ronald Hubbard who married Polly but it was not the
founder of Scientology who became very famous under the name L. Ron
Hubbard.
> Was Scientology not strong enough
> when you were kidnapped for Scientologists to get you back to Ron?
I was kidnapped 5 weeks after birth and returned. I was given back to
Ron a few weeks later. I was kidnapped again approx. of age 2 1/2 and
hidden in a little log cabin in Germany for six weeks and then
returned to Ron. I was kidnapped around age of 5 years and the Germans
didn't allow L. Ron Hubbard to enter Germany to get me back and
neither anybody else who tried to get me back. They justified that by
saying that L. Ron Hubbard's reputation that they smeared at the same
time.
The US government and Scientologists were involved in returning me
back to Ron. Unfortunately, they gave up later. It was the original
Marty Rathbun as a teenager who made his way into Germany and why
helped me to get back to Ron, and the happiest time of my life
followed and Marty and I married in the UK.
But the disturbed Germans could leave us alone. They attacked us and
removed our memories.
Despite everything, I noticed Scientology again and recovered my
memory in the years that followed.
> I
> assume this didn't happen pre-Scientology or the Germans would have no
> reason to be involved.-
The Germans attacked and defamed L. Ron Hubbard already in the media
before the Dianetics book was published. Friedrich Wilhelm Haack in
Germany smeared Ron already then.
The true story of L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology is very different
from what critics but also the C of S says, Husk.
Barbara Schwarz
--
Garry (Gary Lynn) Scarff in Los Angeles keeps on lying about me
cowardly and defaming me behind posting identities Smurf and
AngryGayPope. He lies to Anonymous and anybody else and they are
clueless about how he trolls them. The information on the RFW about
notorious liar Garry Scarff who does anything for money and fame are
true: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/garry-scarff/
Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
to me in the past:
http://de.nntp2http.com/soc/weltanschauung/scientology/2009/10/590f4036a35b3d86e04b38e37282ab04.html
Barbara Schwarz
--
Garry (Gary Lynn) Scarff in Los Angeles keeps on lying about me
cowardly and defaming me behind posting identities Smurf and
AngryGayPope. He lies to Anonymous and anybody else and they are
clueless about how he trolls them. The information on the RFW about
notorious liar Garry Scarff who does anything for money and fame are
true: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/garry-scarff/
Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
to me in the past:
http://de.nntp2http.com/soc/weltanschauung/scientology/2009/10/590f4036a35b3d86e04b38e37282ab04.html
Richard Ford
>
> Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
> --
> Garry (Gary Lynn) Scarff in Los Angeles keeps on lying about me
> cowardly and defaming me behind posting identities Smurf and
> AngryGayPope. He lies to Anonymous and anybody else and they are
> clueless about how he trolls them. The information on the RFW about
> notorious liar Garry Scarff who does anything for money and fame are
>
> Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
>
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Why not create a website with theis stuff. You could post doppledanger
pictures and let us make up our own minds. You cannot blame us for
getting confused with it all.
Also.. why do you post under seperate accounts and names? Are you a
doppledanger of yourself?
Roger Larsson
wrote:
> And why?
>
> Because those posters mix L. Ron Hubbard (deliberately) up with his
> impostor, Jack Vistaril who was hired by a German secret service to be
> L. Ron Hubbard's doppelganger and to ruin L. Ron Hubbard's excellent
> reputation as a true humanitarian.
>
> Jack Vistaril impostored the founder of Scientology for many decades.
>
> Compare the photos and the video footage. Get high definition photos
> and enlarged the photos. Then start measuring and you'll see (if you
> were not hired by the same secret service to cover that lie up that L.
> Ron Hubbard was not impostored) that L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of
> Dianetics and Scientology was impostored by
> another guy.
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
> --
> Garry (Gary Lynn) Scarff in Los Angeles keeps on lying about me
> cowardly and defaming me behind posting identities Smurf and
> AngryGayPope. He lies to Anonymous and anybody else and they are
> clueless about how he trolls them. The information on the RFW about
> notorious liar Garry Scarff who does anything for money and fame are
>
> Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
When he told me to smile because I was in scientology!
Tigger
Richard Ford asks Barbara Schwarz
>Why not create a website with theis stuff. You could post doppledanger
> pictures and let us make up our own minds. You cannot blame us for
> getting confused with it all.
Why doesn't she post her love letters to Marty on a website too? She
claims she took down her website because of Gregory Hall. Barbara's
stories, in addition to having ZERO evidence to back them up are not
only confusing but unbelievable. Plus, she wouldn't get the
attention on a websiste that she gets when she drags them all over
a.r.s. and/or crossposts them to other groups.
>
> Also.. why do you post under seperate accounts and names? Are you a
> doppledanger of yourself?
She says it's because Google will only let a person post 15 (I think
it was) posts PER DAY under one account/name.
LOL.....I've been reading a thread on WWP
where a clueness Anonymous wanted to put Barbara on their list of ex-
scientologists.
Her bio, posting history and other stuff have been provied to prove
what a ridiculoous idea that is or even to get her attention by just
mentioning her name.
One poster even claimed Gregory Hall was a Barbara Schwarz
sockpuppet. That's dificult to believe, unless Schwarz and Hall are
being dopplegangered by OSA Ronbots to disrupt a.r.s. away from the
truth about Scientology.
Same Barbara song, second verse.
Ain't gonna get better, T'wil only get worse. She'll just add to the
confusion by mocking up more "details" which she can not back up with
any evidence whatsoever.
Tigger
Tigger
Barbara Schwarz wrote:
Husk wrote:
> > Wikepedia claims Ron's first wife was Margaret "Polly" Grubb, whom he
> > married in 1933. Is this false?
>
> I am a 100 % sure that there were at least two people by the name L.
> Ron Hubbard, Husk. I do believe that the founder of Scientology, the
> person known as L. Ron Hubbard had another name, his real name that he
> could not use as upon order of the CIA who gave him then the name L.
> Ron Hubbard.
And the evidence to prove this is...............?
Being 100 % sure and believing something does not support ANY of the
stories you tell. A doctor in Oklahoma City recently stabled his
9-year old son to death because he was 100% sure that "He has the
devil in him."
>
> What does it mean? It means that there is one name, L. Ron Hubbard and
> at least two different activities by two very different people. Just
> as there are two Marty Rathbun's both very different individuals and
> very different activities. It is possible that a man whose name is
> really Lafayette Ronald Hubbard who married Polly but it was not the
> founder of Scientology who became very famous under the name L. Ron
> Hubbard.
And you know this because............................?
How many writers, including people who knew Hubbard and his own son,
have all told approximately the same Hubbard tale, which is backed
up by news of those days, military, FBI, college, court and/or other
records or other people?
If, as you claim, Hubbard had dopplegangers before and after he wrote
DIANETICS, why hasn't someone in the last 50 plus years, other than
you and/or RR, written about it? How do you know "all this" when
they don't? How could someone impersonate Hubbard without him
knowing it?
>
> > Was Scientology not strong enough
> > when you were kidnapped for Scientologists to get you back to Ron?
>
> I was kidnapped 5 weeks after birth and returned. I was given back to
> Ron a few weeks later. I was kidnapped again approx. of age 2 1/2 and
> hidden in a little log cabin in Germany for six weeks and then
> returned to Ron. I was kidnapped around age of 5 years
You were kidnapped THREE times and returned???? Why were you
kidnapped? Why didn't /wouldn't the "great man who could do
anything" (in your eyes) stop the kidnappings after the first one?
How do you know all this? Who told you?
>and the Germans
> didn't allow L. Ron Hubbard to enter Germany to get me back and
> neither anybody else who tried to get me back. They justified that by
> saying that L. Ron Hubbard's reputation that they smeared at the same
> time.
>
> The US government and Scientologists were involved in returning me
> back to Ron. Unfortunately, they gave up later. It was the original
> Marty Rathbun as a teenager who made his way into Germany and why
> helped me to get back to Ron, and the happiest time of my life
> followed and Marty and I married in the UK.
Nice soap opera, but you can't prove a word of it.
>
> But the disturbed Germans could leave us alone. They attacked us and
> removed our memories.
>
> Despite everything, I noticed Scientology again and recovered my
> memory in the years that followed.
$cn auditing has brainwashed some people into believing they have had
past lives and "recovered memories" that didn't happen. Your
numerous lawsuits for information and lack of evidence have proved
that your "recovered memories" are false.
>
> > I
> > assume this didn't happen pre-Scientology or the Germans would have no
> > reason to be involved.-
>
> The Germans attacked and defamed L. Ron Hubbard already in the media
> before the Dianetics book was published. Friedrich Wilhelm Haack in
> Germany smeared Ron already then.
And that information can be found where....................?
>
> The true story of L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology is very different
> from what critics but also the C of S says, Husk.
Yes, only one person knows the "true story"
of L. Ron Hubbard. Yeah, right. same Barbara song, different
verse, ain't gonna get any better, t'will only get worse.
Tigger
>
husk
<barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
......
> > Wikepedia claims Ron's first wife was Margaret "Polly" Grubb, whom he
> > married in 1933. Is this false?
>
> I am a 100 % sure that there were at least two people by the name L.
> Ron Hubbard, Husk. I do believe that the founder of Scientology, the
> person known as L. Ron Hubbard had another name, his real name that he
> could not use as upon order of the CIA who gave him then the name L.
> Ron Hubbard.
>
> What does it mean? It means that there is one name, L. Ron Hubbard and
> at least two different activities by two very different people. Just
> as there are two Marty Rathbun's both very different individuals and
> very different activities. It is possible that a man whose name is
> really Lafayette Ronald Hubbard who married Polly but it was not the
> founder of Scientology who became very famous under the name L. Ron
> Hubbard.
Since you are the daughter of the Scientology LRon Hubbard, and the
original LRon Hubbard was/may not have been the same, was it the
original LRon Hubbard that replaced your father when you noticed that
things were starting to go wrong in Scientology. Or was it a third
doppleganger. Did I interpret you correctly?
So they attacked at the time he was holding his meetings about
Dianetics, but prior to the book being published.
> The true story of L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology is very different
> from what critics but also the C of S says, Husk.
>
> Barbara Schwarz
.......
You have a very different story to tell Barbara. It would be
interesting to learn how one could wipe memory clear.
This article http://discovermagazine.com/2008/jan/how-to-erase-a-single-memory
describes injecting the enzyme inhibitor U0126 directly into the rats’
amygdala, to erase memory in rats, but this is rats and not people and
this experiment is recent. One wonders what technology the Germans
had when you were young? Did all of your memory get erased or were
they skilled enough to erase only specific events?
Richard Ford
> describes injecting the enzyme inhibitor U0126 directly into the rats’
> amygdala, to erase memory in rats, but this is rats and not people and
> this experiment is recent. One wonders what technology the Germans
> had when you were young? Did all of your memory get erased or were
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Actually it is the unbelievability of BS and her amazing adventures
that almost make them believable.
Who ele but the daughter of LRH would be capable of such fantastic
paranoia and self agrandisement?
Tigger
>
Actually I have been thinking the same thing. Since I've been
posting The Case Against L. Ron Hubbard, I have noticed sinmilarities
between his stories and hers. Sometimers, mental illness does run in
families. Brain damage also can twist
reality.
Barbara has read a lot about Hubbard. IMO
that has contributed to her delusions about things that she thinks
have happened to heer.
Tigger
Roger Larsson
Daughters unable to love bodies living in the now escapes to past life
bodies.
husk
......
> Actually it is the unbelievability of BS and her amazing adventures
> that almost make them believable.
>
> Who ele but the daughter of LRH would be capable of such fantastic
> paranoia and self agrandisement?
Which may actually support her claim of being LRH's daughter. What
I'd like her to pinpoint for me is what year she believes LRH was
replaced by the doppleganger.
Tigger
Test
Harun al Rashid
> And why?
>
> Because those posters mix L. Ron Hubbard (deliberately) up with his
> impostor, Jack Vistaril who was hired by a German secret service to be
> L. Ron Hubbard's doppelganger and to ruin L. Ron Hubbard's excellent
> reputation as a true humanitarian.
>
"excellent reputation as a true humanitarian"
Barbara, you should take up a career as stand up comedian!
Harun al Rashid
>
> The case against L. Ron Hubbard still stands....Hubbard was a liar, a
> thief, a coward, a bigamist, a conman and an abuser.
>
And that are only his good sides!
Tigger
> Test
Geesh, I think I've been Schwarzinated. I've tried to get a reply
posted here for hours and all that will go is "Test".?
Barbara loves Marty
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You got a point, I should cut out some of my activities and should
make a website: L. Ron Hubbard impostored. Let's hope I have some time
for that soon.
No, I am not a doppelganger. I am the original but I have seen a
doppelganger of mine. She looked so much like me that I thought
somebody montaged my head on her shoulders. Even I was irritated after
seen a photo of her.
I post with different e-mail addresses as Google doesn't allow many
postings with one e-mail address.
Barbara Schwarz
Barbara loves Marty
> On Dec 3, 2:02 pm, Barbara loves Marty<barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ......
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> > > Wikepedia claims Ron's first wife was Margaret "Polly" Grubb, whom he
> > > married in 1933. Is this false?
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> > I am a 100 % sure that there were at least two people by the name L.
> > Ron Hubbard, Husk. I do believe that the founder of Scientology, the
> > person known as L. Ron Hubbard had another name, his real name that he
> > could not use as upon order of the CIA who gave him then the name L.
> > Ron Hubbard.
>
> > What does it mean? It means that there is one name, L. Ron Hubbard and
> > at least two different activities by two very different people. Just
> > as there are two Marty Rathbun's both very different individuals and
> > very different activities. It is possible that a man whose name is
> > really Lafayette Ronald Hubbard who married Polly but it was not the
> > founder of Scientology who became very famous under the name L. Ron
> > Hubbard.
>
> Since you are the daughter of the Scientology LRon Hubbard, and the
> original LRon Hubbard was/may not have been the same, was it the
> original LRon Hubbard that replaced your father when you noticed that
> things were starting to go wrong in Scientology. Or was it a third
> doppleganger. Did I interpret you correctly?
Now, I am confused myself, Husk. :)
While I was on staff, only few photos of L. Ron Hubbard were around.
Those where all his photos.
The first time, I saw evidence that Ron was impostored was in 1984,
when the German magazine showed the impostor in a Bavarian outfit and
his eyes crossed.
Then I looked for more pictures and since the internet, I sure found
enough photos, which showed that he had a doppelganger.
Barbara Schwarz
> This articlehttp://discovermagazine.com/2008/jan/how-to-erase-a-single-memory
> describes injecting the enzyme inhibitor U0126 directly into the rats’
> amygdala, to erase memory in rats, but this is rats and not people and
> this experiment is recent. One wonders what technology the Germans
> had when you were young? Did all of your memory get erased or were
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Barbara loves Marty
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Okay, okay, get a handle on the libel.
Barbara Schwarz
husk
Did the German magazine post a date for the photo or was it current
(1984)
A website would be very interesting if you chose to make one.
Barbara Schwarz
It was a photo taken around 1984, I guess.
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> A website would be very interesting if you chose to make one.-
I think about it. Too bad that C of S is so infiltrated that they
don't want to know the truth anymore.
Barbara Schwarz
Richard Ford
wrote:
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You do not have to worry about them. They will ignore you because
doing anything else would draw attention.
Barbara loves Marty
That could be the case but persistance count. One day, Ron will be
vindicated and his true story will be known despite the many
infiltrators in the orgs and their counter parts attackers in the
field.
Barbara Schwarz
--
Freedom for man does not mean freedom to injure.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom to harm by lies
--
L. Ron Hubbard
Roger Larsson
wrote:
> And why?
>
> Because those posters mix L. Ron Hubbard (deliberately) up with his
> impostor, Jack Vistaril who was hired by a German secret service to be
> L. Ron Hubbard's doppelganger and to ruin L. Ron Hubbard's excellent
> reputation as a true humanitarian.
>
> Jack Vistaril impostored the founder of Scientology for many decades.
>
> Compare the photos and the video footage. Get high definition photos
> and enlarged the photos. Then start measuring and you'll see (if you
> were not hired by the same secret service to cover that lie up that L.
> Ron Hubbard was not impostored) that L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of
> Dianetics and Scientology was impostored by
> another guy.
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
> --
> cowardly and defaming me behind posting identities Smurf and
> AngryGayPope. He lies to Anonymous and anybody else and they are
> clueless about how he trolls them. The information on the RFW about
> notorious liar Garry Scarff who does anything for money and fame are
> true:http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/garry-...
>
> Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
> to me in the past:http://de.nntp2http.com/soc/weltanschauung/scientology/2009/10/590f40...
Sara Northrup changed my mind about Ron Hubbard.
What's the difference between psychopaths and stand-up comedians?
Psychopaths aren't that good they gives an impression of behind closed
doors and stand-up comedians aren't that bad they gives an impression
of behind closed doors.
Ron Hubbards lies about himself weren't greater than Sara Northrups
truth about him.