Ken Urquhart is another person who conceals that L. Ron Hubbard was impostored
Barbara loves Marty
great man but "deteriorated" in the mid 70s. What he conceals is that
not L. Ron Hubbard deteriorated but his place was taken by Jack
Vistaril, the impostor.
Barbara Schwarz
Tigger
What would be the point in concealing something that never happened
and is not true?
Name ONE PERSON besides you, Barbara, who claims Hubbard had an
impersonator.
Tigger
Peter Schilte
Tigger, Roadrunner once mentioned something about it too.
Go figure. ;-)
Peter
"You mocked up your own reactive mind, you mocked up your BTs and you
mocked up your past lives.
Those ARE the EPs (End Phenomenons) of scientology.
L. Ron Hubbard told you so. This is what you are paying for, in no
uncertain terms. Hubbard makes it very clear all the way "UP" the
bridge.
He even told you he was selling you a bridge."
- Ladybird
Roadrunner
> On 27 nov, 01:50, Tigger <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 26, 5:21 pm, Barbara loves Marty
>
> > <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Ken Urquhart has a Blog in which he wrote that L. Ron Hubbard was a
> > > great man but "deteriorated" in the mid 70s. What he conceals is that
> > > not L. Ron Hubbard deteriorated but his place was taken by Jack
> > > Vistaril, the impostor.
>
> > > Barbara Schwarz
>
> > What would be the point in concealing something that never happened
> > and is not true?
>
> > Name ONE PERSON besides you, Barbara, who claims Hubbard had an
> > impersonator.
>
> > Tigger
>
> Tigger, Roadrunner once mentioned something about it too.
> Go figure. ;-)
Excuse me? What go figure? Attacking persons again? Of course you do.
It has been established already thaty ou are a rumour monger, you
provide for stories. A single story told by some person and that you
like is your guideline. I am totally opposed to you... thank God...
RR
Roadrunner
wrote:
Which blog does he tell that? You can also send me an email about
this. I want to check this out.
RR
Roadrunner
Roadrunner
Evidently you haven't studied recorded history... why are peopole so
ignorant and willfully blind?
RR
Peter Schilte
> On 27 Nov, 05:37, Peter Schilte <peterschi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 27 nov, 01:50, Tigger <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 26, 5:21 pm, Barbara loves Marty
>
> > > <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Ken Urquhart has a Blog in which he wrote that L. Ron Hubbard was a
> > > > great man but "deteriorated" in the mid 70s. What he conceals is that
> > > > not L. Ron Hubbard deteriorated but his place was taken by Jack
> > > > Vistaril, the impostor.
>
> > > > Barbara Schwarz
>
> > > What would be the point in concealing something that never happened
> > > and is not true?
>
> > > Name ONE PERSON besides you, Barbara, who claims Hubbard had an
> > > impersonator.
>
> > > Tigger
>
> > Tigger, Roadrunner once mentioned something about it too.
> > Go figure. ;-)
>
> Excuse me? What go figure? Attacking persons again? Of course you do.
> It has been established already thaty ou are a rumour monger, you
> provide for stories.
Yep, like your assumption that Hubbard was indeed replaced by an
impostor.
> A single story told by some person and that you
> like is your guideline. I am totally opposed to you... thank God...
>
Thank God for that indeed.
Eldon
So why didn't you post the link to his blog, Barbara? Here it is, plus
the link to a discussion of the deterioration that began in the
mid-1970s.
http://kgurquhart.blogspot.com/
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/hubbard-aide-confirms-lrh-deterioration-57306/
Roadrunner
> On 27 nov, 07:05, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 27 Nov, 05:37, Peter Schilte <peterschi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 27 nov, 01:50, Tigger <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 26, 5:21 pm, Barbara loves Marty
>
> > > > <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Ken Urquhart has a Blog in which he wrote that L. Ron Hubbard was a
> > > > > great man but "deteriorated" in the mid 70s. What he conceals is that
> > > > > not L. Ron Hubbard deteriorated but his place was taken by Jack
> > > > > Vistaril, the impostor.
>
> > > > > Barbara Schwarz
>
> > > > What would be the point in concealing something that never happened
> > > > and is not true?
>
> > > > Name ONE PERSON besides you, Barbara, who claims Hubbard had an
> > > > impersonator.
>
> > > > Tigger
>
> > > Tigger, Roadrunner once mentioned something about it too.
> > > Go figure. ;-)
>
> > Excuse me? What go figure? Attacking persons again? Of course you do.
> > It has been established already thaty ou are a rumour monger, you
> > provide for stories.
>
> Yep, like your assumption that Hubbard was indeed replaced by an
> impostor.
I never, never, never assume anything if there is not a very good
support for it indeed. It is however fact, and you admitted that, that
you rely on isolated stories that will make up your mind for you.
The contents and approach as displayed on you site will easily confirm
that.
RR
Astrid
>
> So why didn't you post the link to his blog, Barbara? Here it is, plus
> the link to a discussion of the deterioration that began in the
> mid-1970s.
>
> http://kgurquhart.blogspot.com/
Heilige Xenu!
Of course, using some of LRH's TR's on LRH when he was deteriorating
would have done just the trick.
I think Ken should have dug up those plans for the de-insane-orizor
wand, used his powerz to find the correct oscillatory frequency, and
he could have cured LRH of his deterioration, and then stuck it up his
ass to work on his own delusion.
It is great that this Ur-nut, Urquhart mentions that Hubbard
deteriorated starting in 1978, so the stories of LRH ranting about BTs
crawling all over him, were most likely true.
This is a little problem for Project Martyology. It's hard to
resurrect the person behind the cockamamie when you have too many
psycho-phants running around telling stories like this. "I should
have used Hubbard tech on LRH."
Didn't he get the memo? No matter what LRH was REALLY like,
Scientologists are supposed to say he was "just doing research" or out
of body or something, when he was acting mean and batshit crazy.
-----------------------------
>>>Name ONE PERSON besides you, Barbara, who claims Hubbard had an
>>>impersonator.
>>>Tigger
Uh oh, you walked into that one. Barbara's doppelganger also claims
Hubbard had an impersonator. Even Barbara impersonators (they have a
club in the underwater village) all claim LRH had an impersonator.
Barbara fell into the hall-of-mirrors that is Sciloontology, and she
never got out. She may be the most authentic Scientologist on the
planet, and ready to start her own branch of the "religion." Problem
is, it is hard to squeeze money out of illusory doppelgangers.
Gregory Hall
news:a94b1905-f91e-4f0f...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
Me! Barbara has some nutty ideas but she's spot-on when it comes to saying
there was an LRH doppelganger. It's very obvious if you look carefully at
the videos, in particular and the photos as well. The LRH who looks and
talks like a crazy person and has long eye teeth is the imposter. Eye teeth
don't grow longer with age.
Barbara treats me like dirt but I will still support her when she's right.
This is what makes me better than her. I am true to my convictions and don't
change them depending upon my likes and dislikes.
<subject line corrected>
--
Gregory Hall
Tigger
On Nov 27, 7:48 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Peter wrote:
>
> I never, never, never assume anything if there is not a very good
> support for it indeed.
So are you joining B. Schwarz in her UNPROVEN claim that L. Ron
Hubbard was ikmpersonated by an imposter?
Make it clear. Say it. "I, RoadRunner, claim an imposter replaced
L. Ron Hubbard in ...date.......".
Then you can provide the "very good support for it"....right?
Tigger
BTW Do you also support Barbara's claims
1. that Marty Rathbun was replaced by a doppleganger too? Yes......
No.....
2. that she is Hubbard's only child? Yes....No............
3. And any of the other various Barbara dellusions?
Tigger
>
> RR
>
hoser1605
All wackos.
Gregory Hall
> BTW Do you also support Barbara's claims
>
> 1. that Marty Rathbun was replaced by a doppleganger too? Yes......
> No.....
Yes, it's pretty obvious by looking at various photos. There's even the age
discrepancy. The original de Rothschild looked older in his photos that were
taken thirty years ago than the doppleganger looks NOW. Hell Mr. Texas looks
young enough to be the original MR's offspring.
>
> 2. that she is Hubbard's only child? Yes....No............
She never claimed to be Hubbard's 'only' child. But, I do believe Barbara is
one of Hubbard's children and that she was, indeed, kidnapped at an early
age and raised in Germany by a foster mother, RB.
>
> 3. And any of the other various Barbara dellusions?
You'd have to be a little more specific, here. She does suffer from many
different delusions, chief among them is her imagined marriage to de
Rothschild. It's pretty obvious that NEVER happened. She's got delusions
about that and many other things like past lives for sure. Concerning de
Rothschild, look at it this way. Would any sane man continue to hide from a
woman like Barbara who would be almost the perfect helpmate if only she
wouldn't persist in making some old dream she had into reality? She's sure
got loyalty and passion, too bad it's so misdirected.
--
Gregory Hall
Roadrunner
> (Cut to the Chase)
>
> On Nov 27, 7:48 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Peter wrote:
>
> > I never, never, never assume anything if there is not a very good
> > support for it indeed.
>
> So are you joining B. Schwarz in her UNPROVEN
? Like in it turns proven as soon as an authority confirms it, or if
the media doesn't refer to it as a conspiracy theory anymore. Sorry, I
am not into that game.
>claim that L. Ron
> Hubbard was ikmpersonated by an imposter?
>
> Make it clear. Say it. "I, RoadRunner, claim an imposter replaced
> L. Ron Hubbard in ...date.......".
>
> Then you can provide the "very good support for it"....right?
>
> Tigger
>
> BTW Do you also support Barbara's claims
>
> 1. that Marty Rathbun was replaced by a doppleganger too? Yes......
> No.....
>
> 2. that she is Hubbard's only child? Yes....No............
>
> 3. And any of the other various Barbara dellusions?
This only shows that you have no interest to even have a sensible
conversation about it...
RR
>
> Tigger
>
>
>
> > RR
Tigger
Gee, what's the matter? Can't answer the question? Can't provide
any evidence?
Why am I not surprised?
Can you answer this one? Is there anyone on the planet besides you,
Barbara and the Hall troll, who claims there was a bogus Hubbard? If
so?
There is abolutely no credicble proof for that claim. Geesh,
different pictures, videos of the same person can look different.
Lighting, clothes, facial expressions, situations, weight gain or
loss, makeup, etc.
LOL....Does anyone think their driver's license or prassport picture
reflects the "real me"? Or that the pictures of highschool
classmates look like the same people who show up at the 30th reunion?
All look different. Some look older and some look better.
Tggger
>
>
Barbara loves Marty
> On 27 nov, 01:50, Tigger <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 26, 5:21 pm, Barbara loves Marty
>
> > <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Ken Urquhart has a Blog in which he wrote that L. Ron Hubbard was a
> > > great man but "deteriorated" in the mid 70s. What he conceals is that
> > > not L. Ron Hubbard deteriorated but his place was taken by Jack
> > > Vistaril, the impostor.
>
> > > Barbara Schwarz
>
> > What would be the point in concealing something that never happened
> > and is not true?
>
> > Name ONE PERSON besides you, Barbara, who claims Hubbard had an
> > impersonator.
>
> > Tigger
>
> Tigger, Roadrunner once mentioned something about it too.
> Go figure. ;-)
That just means that RR isn't as stupid as you guys.
Also, even if nobody else would agree, it is nevertheless a fact that
Jack Vistaril was not L. Ron Hubbard and Ken Urquhart conceals that he
knows that the guy who appeared later was a German secret service
hired impostor.
Barbara Schwarz
Barbara loves Marty
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I posted this before but now again for those who campaign against the
fact of doppelganger and impostor actions.
Before Saddam Hussein ran and hid, he spoke on TV to his people and
the US televised that speech. He spoke exactly like Saddam and he
looked a lot more like Saddam than Jack Vistaril or the Babbler on
YouTube with Mary Sue looked like L.Ron Hubbard. But the reporters
said that they got word from the CIA that they are not sure if this
guy talking is not one of his ten doppelgangers.
BTW, it is said that also Winston Churchchill had a doppelganger,
although in his case he probably was used to distract the media so
that the real Churchchill could leave buildings undisturbed.
Enlagen all photos of L. Ron Hubbard. Make sure that they are high
definition photos and then take a ruler and do what CIA and FBI guys
do: start measuring and you will see, L. Ron Hubbard was impostored
and Ken Urquhart is either completely gullible and stupid or he is
covering up that L. Ron Hubbard was impostored.
Barbara Schwarz
Barbara loves Marty
> "Tigger" <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> news:0372cd8a-5ece-4584...@g23g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
>
> > BTW Do you also support Barbara's claims
>
> > 1. that Marty Rathbun was replaced by a doppleganger too? Yes......
> > No.....
>
> Yes, it's pretty obvious by looking at various photos. There's even the age
> discrepancy. The original de Rothschild looked older in his photos that were
> taken thirty years ago than the doppleganger looks NOW. Hell Mr. Texas looks
> young enough to be the original MR's offspring.
You are such an idiot. You want to make the original Marty look as old
as you are, Neal.
The photo that you are talking of what done a few years ago not 30
years ago. He looks much younger than Mr. Texas. Marty has gotten some
grey hair but on him it looks sophisticated. He looks so handsome.
Marty, if you read this: Neal looks old. You look amazing. And once we
are back together, we will be so revitalized that 20 years old can't
keep up with us. I can't wait to tango the nights through with you!
Will make youngsters look senile compared to us.
WOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!! :)
Sparks of love and passion will ignite the skies!
Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> > 2. that she is Hubbard's only child? Yes....No............
>
> She never claimed to be Hubbard's 'only' child. But, I do believe Barbara is
> one of Hubbard's children and that she was, indeed, kidnapped at an early
> age and raised in Germany by a foster mother, RB.
I am the only child that he fathered. I think the original Ron never
heard that his sperm was used by doctors to create more kids.
Rest of Neal Warren's German secret service lies snipped.
Barbara Schwarz
Roadrunner
You only assume matters, you don't investigate, you believe and make-
believe. Grow up first, and then, may be, you can contemplate with the
idea (would be a big step for you). Before you can do this, it will be
like throwing peanuts to monkeys.
RR
>
> Tggger
>
>
Barbara loves Marty
>
> - Show quoted text -
There are many information on that doppelgangers were used throughout
history. RR is right. Shirley has no time to read up on history, she
is too busy with having to post defamatory postings.
--
I posted this before but now again for those who campaign against
the fact of doppelganger and impostor actions.
Before Saddam Hussein ran and hid, he spoke on TV to his people and
the US televised that speech. He spoke exactly like Saddam and he
looked a lot more like Saddam than Jack Vistaril or the Babbler on
YouTube with Mary Sue looked like L.Ron Hubbard. But the reporters
said that they got word from the CIA that they are not sure if this
guy talking is not one of his ten doppelgangers.
BTW, it is said that also Winston Churchchill had a doppelganger,
although in his case he probably was used to distract the media so
that the real Churchchill could leave buildings undisturbed.
Enlagen all photos of L. Ron Hubbard. Make sure that they are high
definition photos and then take a ruler and do what CIA and FBI guys
do: start measuring and you will see, L. Ron Hubbard was impostored
and Ken Urquhart is either completely gullible and stupid or he is
covering up that L. Ron Hubbard was impostored.
Barbara Schwarz
Barbara loves Marty
> "Tigger" <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net> wrote in message
You treat me like dirt, Neal and claiming that I have nutty ideas is
just one of your dispicable behavior.
There are many information on that doppelgangers were used throughout
history. RR is right. Shirley has no time to read up on history, she
is too busy with having to post defamatory postings.
--
I posted this before but now again for those who campaign against
the fact of doppelganger and impostor actions.
Before Saddam Hussein ran and hid, he spoke on TV to his people and
the US televised that speech. He spoke exactly like Saddam and he
looked a lot more like Saddam than Jack Vistaril or the Babbler on
YouTube with Mary Sue looked like L.Ron Hubbard. But the reporters
said that they got word from the CIA that they are not sure if this
guy talking is not one of his ten doppelgangers.
BTW, it is said that also Winston Churchchill had a doppelganger,
although in his case he probably was used to distract the media so
that the real Churchchill could leave buildings undisturbed.
Enlagen all photos of L. Ron Hubbard. Make sure that they are high
definition photos and then take a ruler and do what CIA and FBI guys
do: start measuring and you will see, L. Ron Hubbard was impostored
and Ken Urquhart is either completely gullible and stupid or he is
covering up that L. Ron Hubbard was impostored.
Barbara Schwarz
Peter Schilte
Liar! What is your "very good support" for your opinion on psychiatry?
You admitted you didn't do any research on that subject.
> It is however fact, and you admitted that, that
> you rely on isolated stories that will make up your mind for you.
>
That is where you assume wrong. Because they are NOT >isolated<
stories. To use your words: There is very good support for these
stories indeed.
> The contents and approach as displayed on you site will easily confirm
> that.
>
And my site shows you assume wrong about that too.
I said it before, and you can deny as much as you want (and do): You
assume too much.
Eldon
Some of Ken's historical asides are pretty interesting.
[Fair Game was officially repudiated by L. Ron Hubbard in order to
appease the New Zealand Government, but the act was a sham, a lie, a
piece of paper which he had no intention of honouring in deed. I know
that because he announced as much right in front of me when the news
came that he needed to issue the cancellation of Fair Game policy. His
evident intention was to suppress the overt practice of Fair Game for
a while but to continue the practice when he felt it was needed, but
not get caught at it.]
Up until 1972, when LRH left the ship to spend a year in the US (so as
to avoid extradition from Morocco to France for trial), I had known
him as capable always of great kindness. On his return to the ship in
1973, a year later, he had changed substantially. He became more and
more bitterly angry but still capable of occasional kindness. By early
1975, when I last saw him, he had become all but unbearable.
Barbara Schwarz
Here is his Blog, RR:
http://kgurquhart.blogspot.com/
He published his e-mail address on Mr. Texas' Blog. There is also a
photo of him under: Massachussets Independents: http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/
kenneth.urquhart @ gmail.com
--
Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz
>
> - Show quoted text -
You are very uninformed about Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard, the
original Marty Rathbun and me, "Astrid". I wonder if you got anything
right ever.
--
There was no deterioration within L. Ron Hubbard. His impostor was a
low guy.
The Germans hate Scientology and feel threatened by it. The German
secret service Bundesverfassungsschutz even has a Scientology
defamation page. And you think they did not come up with an impostor
to bring Scientology down and alter the tech and create problems.
My God! Why do you have a mind if you don't use it?
Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz
> 1975, when I last saw him, he had become all but unbearable.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I don't think that Ken Urquhart was that stupid not to get that L. Ron
Hubbard was impostored by a German secret service hired doppelganger.
Instead of coming clean and telling the true story that Ron was
impostored, he posts that Ron changed. Which he did not.
Same goes for David Mayo and anybody else who met the original L. Ron
Hubbard and then the impostor.
--
There was no deterioration within L. Ron Hubbard. His impostor Jack
Vistaril was a low guy.
Barbara Schwarz
>
> - Show quoted text -
L. Ron Hubbard also would never have avoides a trial, he didn't know
of any trial. He never should know because it would have been easy for
him to win it. Ken Urquhart sucks like his RPF. L. Ron Hubbard did not
want slaves running up and down the orgs. Criminals belong in jail
where they can be rehabilitated with Scientology technology not on org
grounds.
Barbara Schwarz
Gregory Hall
news:ca94b9dd-54f7-4b99...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> My God! Why do you have a mind if you don't use it?
>
> Barbara Schwarz
And, why do YOU have a mind if you purposely MISUSE it? You get way too
carried away with this German Secret Service Conspiracy Crap. Give it a rest
already and you might be more believable.
--
Gregory Hall
Tigger
I am investigating. I'm asking for proof.
Neither you, Barbara or Hall can provide any. Neither can anyone
else. That's proof that you don't have any, which makes a strong case
in any court that there isn't any proof that the later day Hubard was
an inposter and that Barbara (and you) are "making believe".
Oh wait, the courts already proved that.
Sherlock Tigger :o)
>
>
>
Roadrunner
wrote:
> On Nov 26, 10:37 pm, Peter Schilte <peterschi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 27 nov, 01:50, Tigger <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 26, 5:21 pm, Barbara loves Marty
>
> > > <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Ken Urquhart has a Blog in which he wrote that L. Ron Hubbard was a
> > > > great man but "deteriorated" in the mid 70s. What he conceals is that
> > > > not L. Ron Hubbard deteriorated but his place was taken by Jack
> > > > Vistaril, the impostor.
>
> > > > Barbara Schwarz
>
> > > What would be the point in concealing something that never happened
> > > and is not true?
>
> > > Name ONE PERSON besides you, Barbara, who claims Hubbard had an
> > > impersonator.
>
> > > Tigger
>
> > Tigger, Roadrunner once mentioned something about it too.
> > Go figure. ;-)
>
> That just means that RR isn't as stupid as you guys.
>
> Also, even if nobody else would agree, it is nevertheless a fact that
> Jack Vistaril was not L. Ron Hubbard and Ken Urquhart conceals that he
> knows that the guy who appeared later was a German secret service
> hired impostor.
>
> Barbara Schwarz
He writes:
"Up until 1972, when LRH left the ship to spend a year in the US (so
as to avoid extradition from Morocco to France for trial), I had known
him as capable always of great kindness. On his return to the ship in
1973, a year later, he had changed substantially. He became more and
more bitterly angry but still capable of occasional kindness. By early
1975, when I last saw him, he had become all but unbearable."
Now read carefully...
RR
Roadrunner
wrote:
Thank you, very useful indeed!
RR
Barbara Schwarz
>
> - Show quoted text -
That is what I mean exactly, RR. L. Ron Hubbard researched Scientology
and applied ethics to his own life because he knew better than anybody
the consequences of out-ethics because he figured it out before
anybody else did.
A person who was able and kind does not turn into an out-ethics bitter
and angry person who sometimes staged to be kind. L. Ron Hubbard does
not just slip down the tonescale as he researched all about it. He
knew how to stay uptone.
Scientology is infiltrated not just since the DM management but long
before.
It was not L. Ron Hubbard who has changed. Urquhart doesn't tell that
the bitter person wasn't L. Ron Hubbard but his impostor.
He can fool anybody but real Scientologists.
Barbara Schwarz
Peter Schilte
Yes, It says:
"Up until 1972, when LRH left the ship to spend a year in the US (so
as to avoid extradition from Morocco to France for trial), I had known
him as capable always of great kindness. On his return to the ship in
1973, a year later, he had changed substantially. He became more and
more bitterly angry but still capable of occasional kindness. By early
1975, when I last saw him, he had become all but unbearable."
Very clearly it says Hubbard went nuts. Or are you implying something
else, fabricating something that supports your unproved assumption,
not to say delusion, that this was not Hubbard? How scientific!
And you of all people accuse others of not interpreting thing right!?
ho...@lightlink.com
> It was not L. Ron Hubbard who has changed. Urquhart doesn't tell that
> the bitter person wasn't L. Ron Hubbard but his impostor.
>
> He can fool anybody but real Scientologists.
The OT LRH would never have allowed another to walk into his life
or imposter him.
Homer
>
> Barbara Schwarz
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Homer Wilson Smith The Paths of Lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink
(607) 277-0959 KC2ITF Cross Internet Access, Ithaca NY
ho...@lightlink.com In the Line of Duty http://www.lightlink.com
Roadrunner
You are really gullible... and exceedingly ignorant. By the way courts
don't proof anything, they are not about that, but how would you know.
There is an avalanche of information that you ignore. I know becasue I
investigated it.
RR
Peter Schilte
In or out the courts, nobody ever presented anything else but wild
speculations and assumptions and no evidnce at all that Hubbard was
replaced by an impostor.
Not even "an avalanche of information" can change that.
BTW, "an avalanche of information" is now all of a sudden of any
relevancy, however when my website is involved, it is not? Double
standards. Again, Michel.
Peter
"That which works in $cientology
is not unique to $cientology,
and that which is unique to $cientology
does not work."
- Prufrock
Tigger
I watch real trials on tv? I read Ann Rules's true crime books? My
neice was a lawyer?
>
> There is an avalanche of information that you ignore. I know becasue I
> investigated it.
How did you investigate it? So where/what is this avalanche of
information? Why don't you shovel it out here where we can all
"investigate" it?
Is it witness evidence, circumstantial evidence, wishful thinking
evidence or pure bullshit?
Tigger
BTW Hubbaard was a liar, thief, kidnaper, adulterer, weirdo and
abuser BEFORE the ALLEGED IMPOSTER allegedly came on the scene.
LET THE TRIAL BEGIN.
Tigger
Barbara Schwarz
> In alt.religion.scientology Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com> wrote:
>
> > It was not L. Ron Hubbard who has changed. Urquhart doesn't tell that
> > the bitter person wasn't L. Ron Hubbard but his impostor.
>
> > He can fool anybody but real Scientologists.
>
> The OT LRH would never have allowed another to walk into his life
> or imposter him.
>
> Homer
He was never told that there is an impostor but I am convinced that he
knew that the Germans impostored him. But if he would have gone to
confront the doppelganger, the impostor would have gone as the Germans
knew what the real Ron did as they spied on him any second of his
life.
Homer, L. Ron Hubbard didn't allow somebody to impostor him but bad
people cook out bad stuff and do the bad stuff. L. Ron Hubbard's
mission was to enhance their understanding of ethics and life but he
would not paralize them, and that is what necessary to stop them.
Netherless, despite L. Ron Hubbard did not lay a hand on his enemies,
he win despite all doppelgangers and odds.
The real winner is somebody who can't be defeated even if people think
he is defeated.
Barbara Schwarz
--
Garry (Gary Lynn) Scarff in Los Angeles keeps on lying about me
cowardly and defaming me behind posting identities Smurf and
AngryGayPope. He lies to Anonymous and anybody else and they are
clueless about how he trolls them. The information on the RFW about
notorious liar Garry Scarff who does anything for money and fame are
true: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/garry-scarff/
Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
to me in the past:
http://de.nntp2http.com/soc/weltanschauung/scientology/2009/10/590f4036a35b3d86e04b38e37282ab04.html
Barbara loves Marty
>
> - Show quoted text -
I hope you live long enough to be put on trial, Shirely.
ho...@lightlink.com
>> I am investigating. ?I'm asking for proof.
>> Neither you, Barbara or Hall can provide any. ?Neither can anyone
>> else. ?That's proof that you don't have any, which makes a strong case
>> in any court that there isn't any proof that the later day Hubard was
>> an inposter and that Barbara (and you) are "making believe".
>>
>> Oh wait, the courts already proved that.
>>
>> Sherlock Tigger :o)
>>
>>
>
> You are really gullible... and exceedingly ignorant. By the way courts
> don't proof anything, they are not about that, but how would you know.
What most people mean by 'proof' is evidence for. There is no
proof for things in the physical universe, only against things.
There are many theories of impostership of Hubbard, not only as a
body but also as a thetan walkin.
Same for DM.
The facts on the surface seem to indicate that Hubbard changed a
number of times, first in the 60's, then in the 70's, and maybe once
again later.
Whether the changes were changes in physical person, spirital
being, or mental valence are not as relevant as noting what the changes
were and any contradictions with the earlier version.
Homer
Barbara loves Marty
> >>>impersonator.
> >>>Tigger
>
> Hubbard had an impersonator. Even Barbara impersonators (they have a
> club in the underwater village) all claim LRH had an impersonator.
>
> Barbara fell into the hall-of-mirrors that is Sciloontology, and she
> never got out. She may be the most authentic Scientologist on the
> planet, and ready to start her own branch of the "religion." Problem
> is, it is hard to squeeze money out of illusory doppelgangers.
In posting senseless crap, you could win an award, "Astrid".
Also, just like my Dad, I am not money-oriented. We are not interested
in cash but in a better world.
Barbara loves Marty
I know that anybody has its own version but I know for sure that L.
Ron Hubbard was impostored. Any decent CIA or FBI agent could examine
the evidence, photos and videos and would come very soon to the
conclusion that Jack Vistaril was not L. Ron Hubbard.
David Miscavige and I believe also Ken Urquhart met the real L. Ron
Hubbard. I bet a million dollars that they knew that the person with
the mood swings was a doppelganger.
Barbara Schwarz