Dyslexia,not necessarily a male hormone disorder
ast...@yahoo.com
I was wondering about Dyslexia and the belief that it's connected to
unusual male hormone levels. It is believed that majority of Dyslexics
are male,and so that Dyslexia is testosterone-connected condition.
Dyslexics have strong visual spatial abilities,and those are said to
be abilities than men typically have. Many Dyslexics have speech
delays. It is said that males talk later than females. That's another
reason why people might think Dyslexic is a condition linked to male
hormones.
However, I am Dyslexic. I have Dyspraxia and ADHD too. All 3
conditions have been diagnosed. I do have history of speech delays
and speech problems connected to my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia. I also
have strong visual spatial abilities including that I am very
imaginative and think mainly in pictures. You would think that I have
high amount of testosterone levels. The thing is that I don't. I
never fit the traditional male stereotype. I have strong feminine
traits including a high voice,very sensitive,and very emotional.
That's why I have been mistakened for being gay by lots of people even
though I am heterosexual and have been attracted to the opposite sex
since preschool.
There has been research on finger length ratios. Index finger is
digit 2 or 2D. Ring finger is digit 4 or 4D. The length of fingers
is genetically linked to the sex hormones. A person with a ring finger
longer than index finger will have had more exposure to testosterone
in the womb. That would be a low 2D:4D ratio. A person with an index
finger longer than ring finger will have had more exposure to estrogen
in the womb. That would be a high 2D:4D ratio. Males generally have
ring longer than index finger. Females generally have ring finger
and index finger the same length which would be 1.0 or a high digit
ratio. I am male with a high 2D:4D ratio with my index finger being
longer than my ring finger. That would indicate that I have been
exposed to more estrogen in my mother's womb.
A survey of academics at the University of Bath has found that male
scientists typically have a level of the hormone estrogen as high as
their testosterone level. The study draws on research suggesting that
these unusual hormone levels in many male scientists cause the right
side of their brains which governs spatial skills to develop
strongly. A survey of the finger lengths of over 100 male and female
academics at the University by senior Psychology lecturer Dr. Mark
Brosnan has found that those men teaching hard sciences, like
mathematics and physics,tend to have index fingers as long as their
ring fingers which indicates having unusually high estrogen levels for
males. It is also found that male academics with longer ring fingers
than index fingers which is the unusual tended not to be in science
but in social science subjects,such as psychology and education.
The research now suggests that lower than average testosterone levels
in men lead to spatial skills than give a man the ability to succeed
in science. Other research has in the past also suggested that an
unusually high level of testosterone can do the same thing by
encouraging the development of the right hemisphere.
the extremes of low testosterone and high testosterone for men would
create the scientific brain,and the normal range in the middle would
create the social science brain. My lower than average of levels of
testosterone might have led me to have spatial skills which is part of
my Dyslexia.
There is a syndrome called Kilinefelter Syndrome. It has to do with
males having an extra X chromosome like XXY,XXXY. These are males
who have low testosterone levels,and very high estrogen levels.
Learning disabilities,language disabilities,and speech problems are
very typical of men with Klinefelter Syndrome. 50 percent of
Klinefelter males have Dyslexia. Now if Dyslexia is thought to be
a testosterone-linked condition and many Klinefelter Syndrome males
have Dyslexia, then Dyslexia is not a testosterone-linked condition
because Klinefelter men who have low testosterone have Dyslexia.
Dyslexia is not necessarily a male hormone disorder because a lot of
males with low male hormone levels have Dyslexia ,and I am one of
them. Also strong visual spatial thinking skills is not only present
in males with high testosterone but also present in males with low
testosterone. I am one of those males. Many male scientists have low
testosterone levels and strong visual spatials. Therefore, I
wouldn't generalize that Dyslexia is a male hormone disorder that
causes the right hemisphere to develop strongly because that is not
the case in a lot of males that don't have high testosterone levels.
You won't find all dyslexics having low 2D:4D finger ratios with ring
finger being longer than index finger. You won't find that in this
Dyslexic. That's for sure.
Finger length ratio:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=pto-3791.html&fromMod=popular
http://psych.unn.ac.uk/users/nick/HBppws07/tsld005.htm
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20040530/ai_n14577180
http://www.bath.ac.uk/pr/releases/fingerlength.htm
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=5734
http://human-nature.com/nibbs/02/manning.html
Klinefelter Syndrome:
http://www.healthofchildren.com/I-K/Klinefelter-Syndrome.html
http://www.answers.com/topic/klinefelter-s-syndrome
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000382.htm
Raymond
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> On 17 May, 06:57, "asty...@yahoo.com" <asty...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I was wondering about Dyslexia and the belief that it's connected to
>
> An interesting and detailed post - thanks for sharing. On the whole,
> I'm inclined to agree with you (although have not gone into the
> theories in anything like as much detail). Hormone levels were not
> something which was discussed much when I was working in a dyslexia-
> specialist school, but then, to be honest, we were more interested in
> the practicalities of how to help and support learners, than possible
> factors which might have affected their development.
>
> There are only two things I would (mildly) object to: First, the
> assumption of "very sensitive,and very emotional" as either female or
> gay male traits; I think this is a huge oversimplification. Secondly,
> the linking of high levels of visuo-spatial skills with ability in
> "hard" sciences; as far as I know (and please correct if I'm mislead)
> people with both high and low visual ability may be highly successful
> in the more mathematically-oriented sciences, but will generally have
> developed very different ways of learning/ understanding/ applying
> subject knowledge and skills.
>
> If I understand correctly, you are primarily referring to the hormones
> to which the child is exposed in the womb? Is there much research on
> the effect of hormonal changes at puberty on dyslexia, dyspraxia, etc?
>
> Silverfin
Silverfin,
Thank you for your response to my post. I do agree with you on all
things. I don't believe in stereotypes. I believe that males can be
very emotional,sensitive without having low testosterone levels,high
estrogen. I believe that females can be very assertive,aggressive
without having high testosterone levels.
I was talking about hormones in the womb. I was also talking about
finger length ratios that don't change at all and are supposed to show
the levels of hormones while in the womb. Also...its possible that the
hormones can change with things like diet,exercise,and even
medication. I never fully developed in puberty. I do have a high
voice and quite softspoken and gentle in how I sound. My adam's apple
doesn't show. I also have eunuchoid body features(long legs and arms
in relation to body with arm span longer than my height) I thought
that maybe it was from speech issues from both Dyslexia and Dyspraxia.
I was in speech therapy. I speak very proper English to the point that
some blacks told me that I try to sound white or talk too white which
I find ridiculous. I am mixed Black,White,Hispanic,Native American.
I don't fit with Black stereotypes either.
I didn't say that being highly emotional,sensitive is gay traits.
Also I don't believe that feminine males means gay either. I see
nothing wrong with feminine traits in a male. Highly
emotional,sensitive is seen as feminine traits in general. There is
nothing wrong with feminine traits in male. It's not a bad thing. It's
how they are perceived by bigots and the ignorant people as bad traits
in men and as homosexuals. That's not right. I feel the same way
about masculine traits in women.
I believe that all males and females have male and female traits,but
they vary. Swiss Psychiatrist Carl Jung believed this too...even
labeled female in male "anima" and male in female "animus"
I am a highly visual spatial thinker who is very interested in
psychology because I do have a strong perception,intuition about
people and that's not associated with male traits either. It is
related to my highly sensitive nature including very strongly affected
by the feelings of others and my environment. I feel that people in
psychology,psychiatry should be highly perceptive,intuitive about the
feelings of others.
I have the problem of the generalizations of males and females in how
they think and there are contradictions.
Some say that males are rightbrained because visual spatial skills
because males on average are supposed to have strong visual spatial
skills. Some say that females are leftbrained because women on
average are supposed to be very verbal.
Some say that females are rightbrained because women on average are
intuitive and perceptive of feelings of others. Some say that males
are rightbrained because men on average are analytical,logical.
Dr. Amen who wrote books on Healing ADD and Anxiety, even said that in
his books. It really bothered me because I didn't fit that.
I am a talkative,imaginative,emotionally
perceptive,sensitive,emotional, male with strong visual spatial skills
and think mainly in pictures.
Male and female traits are definitely not so cut and dry. There will
always be people who will agree or disagree.
I wrote something else about hormones,feminine men. I was trying to
make the point that feminine men aren't necessarily gay. 20/20 show
was generalizing that feminine men are gay,and it really bothered
me.
dolfrog
Dyslexia is a man made cultural issue.
dyslexia is about having problems with a man made communication
system, or to be more precise the visual notation of a man made
auditory communication system. So it can not be a medical condition
nor can it be an issue regarding gender or hormones and pre birth
problems.
Dyslexia has many underlying causes such as auditory and visual
sensory information processing deficits or disorders, and conflicting
learning styles (which you mentioned especially those who are Visual-
Spatial Learners) With regard to the visual problems that can cause
the dyslexic symptoms, some of these are not limited to sensory
information processing, but also include many visual tracking issues.
There are other unerlying causes relate to ADD, and dyspraxia, which
can also cause the dyslexic symptoms. There are many theories
regarding the cuases of Developmental Dyslexia, most of which are
valid, as they relate to the many underlying causes of dyslexia.
This also helps to explain why so manmy different programs developed
to help dyslexics only work for certain typesa of dyslexic asnd not
for others.
So the question all who have a diagnosis of dyslexia, or believe that
they could be dyslexic should ask is: WHAT CAUSES MY DYSLEXIA ? and
what other symptoms and problems are involved with my particular set
of underlying causes of my dyslexia.
After my son and I were diagnosed as being dyslexic, we soon
discovered that we did not fit the existing defined model of dyslexia
advocated by our local Dyslexia support group, although they
recognised that we were dyslexic. And as we researched deeper and had
more assessments and diagnosis, we found out that in our cases
Auditory Processing Disorder was the main underlying cause of our
dyslexia. There were different side issues, my son has a mild form of
dyspraxia which adds to his problems and ability to develop coping
strategies, and I have a natural Visual-Spatial Learning Style, so I
think in pictures and not words. but being a Visual-Spatial Learner
provides me with the natural coping strategis to cope with my auditory
processing deficit.
best wishes
dolfrog
ast...@yahoo.com
I believe that it can be relating to a medical condition like
cerebellar vestibular dysfunction(aka as vestibular disorder,inner ear
problems) which Dr. Levinson believes.). I was diagnosed as having
cerebellar vestibular dysfunction by Dr. Levinson who believed that is
root of Dyslexic Syndrome. I took the copy of the test results to the
neurologists. They tested me. They even confirmed that I have
abnormal cerebellar system. They confirmed my problems with
saccadic,pursuit eye movement(I had abnormal Electronystagmography,
and so I am aware of the tracking issues of Dyslexics. They confirmed
my auditory processing issues. They set me up with
neuropsychological testing. The neuropsychological testing showed
that I have impaired immediate visual memory,borderline impaired
verbal memory,and borderline impaired sentence repetition. The problem
was with encoding and organizing the information as retained most of
what I learned after a delay. Low average thematic memory,low average
Digit Symbol,and Low average trail making. My language scores ranged
from above average to borderline impaired. My simple attention was in
above average range. My block design was in the above average range. I
got time bonus points for the final,most difficult design. I also
scored in above average range in list generation to a sound cue.
After all that neurological testing,neuropsychological testing was
done, I was confirmed to have Dyslexia and Dyspraxia.
My Dyslexia used to involve auditory reversals leading to speech
reversals as well as speech delays. I still have auditory input
speech,visual input lags, cluttering speech, and word retrieval issues
that affect speech,auditory processing,and reading. I also have
problems with directions like left/right and sequences. I have poor
sense of time.
Other things that might be connected to my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia are
my cross dominance(righthanded but left eye and left ear dominant). I
even text messages on my cell phone with my left hand only.
I think mainly in pictures including visualizing,seeing things in my
mind's eye nonstop.
I do believe that hormones can be a cause. It's obvious that there are
scientific researchers that believe hormones can be a cause of
Dyslexia. A big proportion of Klinefelter Syndrome males have
Dyslexia,and they have hypogonadism(low testosterone). It could be
certain hormonal imbalances that can lead to cases of the brain
developing. There can be so many causes of Dyslexia. I believe that
hormonal problems can influence the development of the brain including
the neurons. There are studies that show that high estrogen in males
can lead to alzheimer. Also that low testosterone in males can lead to
cognitive deficits.
Some studies show that Omega 3 fatty acid deficiencies including
especially DHA deficiencies are a factor in Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and AD/
HD. I have been taking cod liver oil,and I definitely had
improvements in my mental functioning...I am even less hypersensitive
now.
I definitely fit the criteria that International Dyslexia Association
has. There are lot of symptoms listed including
auditory,phonological,and speech problems. I was a severe Dyslexic as
a child,and I benefited from early intervention special education.
You can check out my Veteran Affairs neurological and
neuropsychological testing here.
http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=album01&page=2
I plan on spending the rest of my life as an advocate/activist of
learning disabilities,developmental disorders.
I feel that is my life purpose.
I am a member of:
International Dyslexia Assocation
Learning Disability Association
National Association For The Education of African American Children
with Learning Disabilities.
ast...@yahoo.com
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This is the essay that I wrote on hormones,feminine men.
I wrote up a post about the importance of hormones' influence when it
comes to emotions. It seems like there is this belief that only
hormones affect females and teenagers and not males. I am concerned
that there is little belief that hormones affect the emotions of men
too. Males can be irritable,moody just like females can. I don't know
about you, but I hate stereotypes. I hate people mistakening me for
being gay because I don't fit the stereotypes of what a male should
be. I hate that my hypogonadism, having lower testosterone levels and
higher estrogen levels than the typical man is leading to me having a
very feminine nature that is getting me seen as being gay. 20/20
television specials certainly don't help in the matter. They stress
about the gay man's brain being feminized,and that when a man sounds
feminine,he must be gay. I know that this this is bull. Man...I was
angry when I was watching this. There are lot of feminine men that
are not gay. A matter of fact, there is a syndrome called Klinefelter
Syndrome which has to do with primary hypogonadism caused by extra X
chromosomes so that they male is born as XXY,or even XXXY,or even
XXXXY. These are men who are ultrafeminine not just genetically but
also physically. Klinefelter Syndrome isn't associated with
homosexuality. These men are more feminine than most. So why should
feminine men be gay? Why should a male be seen as gay because he
talks,walks,and/or acts feminine?
I feel that doctors aren't taking hormone imbalances in men
seriously. When a man comes to a doctor and voices his concerns about
symptoms of hormone imbalance,and the doctor says that it's nothing
and that's its in all his head and even refers him to a psychiatrist,
it's a problem. Maybe he is right? Maybe he isn't. How does he know
without even bothering to examine that person? There is such thing as
andropause which has to do with drop in testosterone levels after you
reach 40 which can lead to not only sexual dysfunction,but emotional
problems like depression and irritability. I stress the importance of
ruling out medical conditions before giving a psychiatric diagnosis.
I don't see why people don't get that. Doctors make mistakes. That's
why they have malpractice insurance. If they mess up, they can get
sued. Misdiagnosis do happen, folks. I feel that a man with hormone
imbalances that gets diagnosed as a psychiatric disorder is a major
misdiagnosis. If they take medication,it can mess up their bodies.
Imagine a person with low sex drive because of low testosterone, and
he takes an antidepressant that even lowers his sex drive even more.
Antidepressants are known to cause sexual dysfunction. These are more
likely to cause it in men with hormone imbalances. If the man is
depressed, how in the world is sexual dysfunction going to cheer him
up? I talked to my primary care doctor who agreed that with my low
testosterone,antidepressants can cause impotence in me because I have
low sex drive to begin with. Sex has never been important in my life.
I never really felt the strong urge to have sex in general. I always
felt that romance and love was more important than sex. I hated when
guys talked about sex so much when I was a teenager and when I was in
the military. I didn't see women as sex objects and didn't believe in
them being treated that way. I believed in love and romance. I even
need a spiritual,romantic,love connection before I can have sexual
intercourse. I don't even like to refer to that as the f'word either.
I prefer using the phrase, "making love". There is nothing wrong
with that. I remember using that phrase,and a guy got on my case.
That was in my freshman year in high school,and it made me feel like I
am weird. I shouldn't have to feel that way. Males that are
feminine,gentle,and sensitive shouldn't have to feel like outcasts.
Men that are nurses,massage therapists,cosmetologists,fashion
designers,and intuitive consultants aren't necessarily gay either. I
got accused of being gay and called a gay slur for saying that I am a
massage therapy student. I do wonder if my hypogonadism is a huge
influence in my personality. I am starting to realize that it is.
After all, it can lead to having strong feminine traits. It doesn't
necessarily mean that you are gay nor mentally ill. Doctors shouldn't
be telling you that. If he does,he's a real bigot and very ignorant.
The psychiatrist who first misdiagnosed me as having bipolar disorder
noted that I was a bit effeminate in my medical record. That was like
a slap in the face. He didn't consider that I have hormone imbalances
nor did he consider my rambling,tangential,disorganized speech was
Dyslexic-related and not psychotic. I have even been referred to as
being "confused" because of my mixed
Black,Portuguese,English,German,French,Italian,Puerto Rican,Native
American,and Jewish ancestry. Many people who are "different" have
been misdiagnosed due to ignorance which is not bliss.
But yeah....if you have problems with depression and irritability,
consider seeing an endocrinologist and not just a psychiatrist. I
wish that I had saw the endocrinologist years ago instead of thinking
my mental health problems were psychiatric. Heck...I should have been
checked when my voice didn't get deep in puberty too.
I think that being an advocate for hypogonadism might also be my life
purpose and not just being an advocate for learning disabilities and
developmental disorders which I also have a history of.
hypogonadism:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/male-hypogonadism/DS00300
http://www.hmc.psu.edu/healthinfo/h/hypogonadism.htm
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/DS/00300.html
http://www.dundee.ac.uk/medther/tayendoweb/images/hypogonadism.htm
http://health.yahoo.com/topic/hormone/overview/article/mayoclinic/E97FDCB5-E617-4C36-859B911C1A0E9257
http://www.clevelandclinicmeded.com/diseasemanagement/endocrinology/mhypogonadism/mhypogonadism.htm
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1476110
http://www.humanhealthsolutions.com/articles/men_low_testosterone.htm?PHPSESSID=d43fd937db51d5d811c573321d9b9e51
Andropause:
http://www.andropause.com/
http://www.hmc.psu.edu/healthinfo/a/andropause.htm
http://www.hkmenshealth.com/eng/healthline/andropause.asp
http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/print/andropause2002.htm
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/testosterone-therapy/MC00030
https://www.bcbsri.com/BCBSRIWeb/health_wellness/Men/InYour60s/TestosteronetherapyTheanswerforagingmen_MC00030.jsp
http://www.lifewatch-eap.com/poc/view_doc.php?type=doc&id=9556
Thyroid:
http://www.bellaonline.com/ArticlesP/art41515.asp
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/thyroid-disease/AN00986
http://pages.prodigy.net/naturedoctor/thyroid.html
http://www.thyroid-info.com/aremrevw.htm
http://www.thyroidpower.com/artestrogenmenothyroidfr.html
http://www.webmd.com/depression/news/20040315/atypical-depression-thyroid-link-still-alive
http://caymannetnews.com/2006/01/1008/thyroid.shtml
http://www.mbschachter.com/hypothyroidism.htm
dolfrog
>
> I plan on spending the rest of my life as an advocate/activist of
> learning disabilities,developmental disorders.
> I feel that is my life purpose.
>
> I am a member of:
> International Dyslexia Assocation
> Learning Disability Association
> National Association For The Education of African American Children
>
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dyslexia is a cultural problem.
each culture has developed its own form of auditory laguage, speech,
and in turn has developed its own visual notation of this auditory
form of communication.
and dyslexias the name give to those who have problems using these
systems of visual notation of speech, which in the western culture we
call text. dyslexics in eastern cultures have a different set of
problems because they have a different system of visual notation of
thier auditory language.
The problems dyslexics have are about processing and reprocessing the
code used ib our cultures visual notation of speech, and some have
problems processing speech which leads them to have problems
processing the notation of speech.
So a diagnosis of dyslexia is only a sign of oner or more problems
that require further investigation. There is no one single underlying
cause of the dyslexic symptoms. There are many some of which have been
mentioned by others on this thread.
The real problems arise when some professional researcher, or program
provider tries to claim a single and only underlying cause, and a
single onl;y remedial program.
There are too many making money in the dyslexia industry at the
expense of real dyslexics, and they also prevent the real full story
being told and researched.
I hate to say this but too many of the large dyslexia agencies have
their own agendas to sell their program or products to tell the real
story behind dyslexia, and ignore much leading university based
dyslexia research because it conflicts with thier private hidden
agendas.
So joining some of these organisations is not so beneficial as it may
seem on the surface.
beware of the hidden agendas
best wishes
dolfrog
ast...@yahoo.com
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The organizations seem okay to me,and so I joined. I read their stuff
and checked them out. They have a lot of good information. I also
liked that there is one to especially help learning disabled African
American children which are often overlooked.
As for hidden agendas, we can say that about anything.....especially
governments and churches. I am not even a Christian myself. I am
leaning towards Unitarian Universalist. I am very liberal person.
I am not really going to get into all that.
a lot of research about Dyslexia is very contradicting too. Some
noted problems with background noise is a cause. Some traced Dyslexia
to certain genes and chromosomes too.
I agree that there can be many causes of Dyslexia.
dolfrog
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Hi
Dyslexia is not a medical condition.
Dyslexia is the set of symptoms that are caused by having problems
with a man made communication system.
Dyslexia is about having problems using mans visual notation of
Speech, another man made communication system.
If you research these issues you will find that there are many
underlying causes of dyslexia.
Many have a genetic cause for their underlying causes of the dyslexic
symptoms, and you mentioned one Auditory Processing Disorder, which
would include those who have problems with background noise.
have a look at a weel cited research paper that defines most of the
theories of developmental dyslexia that were favoured in 2003 by an
international research team.
"Theories of developmental dyslexia: insights from a multiple case
study of dyslexic adults "
http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/126/4/841
best wishes
dolfrog
ast...@yahoo.com
dolfrog,
you are preaching to the choir,and it's getting really annoying. You
tell the same things over and over again. You do it on Dyslexia
wikipedia too. You come off rather patronizing and condescending.
I know Dyslexia is not a medical problem.
I know that there are many underlying causes of Dyslexia. I have been
knowing that. I have read about a lot of stuff about Dyslexia from
not just books but also articles. Please don't assume that I don't. I
also believe in Dr. Harold N. Levinson's inner ear theory which I feel
makes a lot of sense and it definitely applies to me. Ronald D.
Davis' thinking in pictures theory makes a lot of sense to me,and it
definitely applies to me too. Omega 3 fatty acid theory makes a lot
of sense too,and that applies to me too. There is also theory that
there is problems with corpus callosum, and that can apply to me with
my cross dominance of being righthanded but both left eye and left ear
dominant like my mother who told me that she has a lot of Dyslexic
symptoms too. I was also 2 weeks born immature too. I already
mentioned about my hormone imbalances. Who knows...I might even have
chromosome/gene defects that might be connected to Dyslexia. There
is scientific research,studies,and discoveries about chromosomes/genes
that have been found connected to Dyslexia.
auditory processing problems is not just having problems with
background noise though. Like for me, it was auditory reversals in
early childhood. That's what my mom was told after I had my speech and
hearing tested when I was 4 because of my jumbled,disorganized
speech.
But after that was corrected, it was auditory input speech lags and
memory stuff and auditory overload as in taking in too much
information for my brain to process.
my visual memory is worse than my verbal memory with my immediate
visual memory being impaired and my immediate verbal memory being
impaired.....with both improving to low average during a delay.
I also have visual input lags too and visual overload as in taking in
too much visual information for my brain to process.
The neuropsychologist pointed out to me that I have problems with
string of words, and that included both auditory and visual.
There is also a problem with seque
ntial information in general.....and it's not about just auditory but
also visual sequential information too. So problems with
directions,instructions is a typical of me. That has been found very
common in Dyslexics and Dyspraxics.
BTW....Its well known that most Dyslexics have problems with phonemic
awareness. Phonemes are the smallest units of spoken language...not
written language.
the combination of auditory therapy and speech therapy gave me the
phonemic awareness which helped me learn from phonics so I can learn
to decode words and spell.
Lets agree to disagree and move on.
Raymond
dolfrog
Hi Raymond
waht you need to do is to stop calling all of these issues dyslexia,
because that wah t the problem is.
Dyslexia is only about having problems with a man made communication
system called text.
Some of the other issues you have mentioned are potential underlying,
and some are just pure invention.
The issues in the peer reviewed scientific research papers is what
counts all the other stuff is people selling their products and
programs, and those who are not very well informed.
Peer reviewed research papers is how the real scientific research is
recognised internationally, whioch includes all especially out side of
ther USA where there is a tendancy to follow the snake oil salemen,
and not follow the scientific rigors of peer reveiw research. What
youy have to remeber the USA is not the world, and that others out
side of the USA may be better and more informed, and free of marketing
hype, which seems to rule many of your lives over there.
May be you should start to apply somne of your own scientific
abilities to eliminate the all of the hype you seem to be beleiving
and beginj to look at real scientific peer reviewed research on this
topic.
Peer Review means that the Scientic Research papers have to be
reviewed by your scientific peers in your own country and in many
cases in other countries before you are able to publish your research
papers findings.
The science that surounds dyslexia is constantly improving as we
develop the technology to improve our understanding of how the brain
works, and some of the old theories have to be discarded in the light
of the latest research.
I have had a good working relationship with many of the world leading
researchers on the realted topics of APD and dyslexia and the
international understanding of these issues improves as we go along,
the research and theories of years gone by has to be seen in the
perspective of todays understanding of these concepts, which yopu seem
to failed to want to do but continue in your world of only
understanding the part of the issues you want to.
and yes Wikipedia has to demonstrate the real scientifically provenj
issues of dyslexia and not the mythicla issues promoted by those
trying to sell you a sometimes baseless therapy package.
You really do need to wake up and cut your way free from sopme of the
nonesense and hype that you listed above. The auditory and visual
issues are real, and your descriptions of ther breakdown of word
sounds is correct.
But Dyslexia can only be about having problkems with text, reading
wrting and spelling. Dyslexia has nothing to do with having
organisational problems or sequential problems, these are caused by
the underlying causes of the dyslexic symptoms such as the sensory
issues of Auditory Processing Disorder, the coresponding Visual
Processing Disorder, or ther motor processing issues of yspraxia etc.
These are issues that you have mentioned, and are all have dyslexia as
one of many sets of symptoms, and each of these underlying conditions
have a much wider rangew of issues that rquired investrigations other
than ther dyslexic symptoms. many of which are medically more serious
that the dyslexic symptoms discussed here.
So you need to open your mind and free it from all of the hype and mis
understandings and begin to understand the real world of international
research.
best wishes
dolfrog
dolfrog
It would appear as if you would prefer to classify all of your
problems under the dyslexia banner to avoid the reality of accepting
the range of disbilities or disorders you may have idividually, the
symptoms of which you list below.
this copuld be due the the problems associated with recognising that
you have a disorder in the USA, and the stigmas that your society
applies, again this is a cultural issue or problem for the USA.
best wishes
dolfrog
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dyslexia banner???
WTF?????/
I already friggen said about my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and ADHD
I friggen classify all my problems under Dyslexia!
I mentioned about Dyspraxia and ADHD too. I didn't just talk about
Dyslexia.
I have been diagnosed as having those conditions too.
Don't be assuming stuff about me without knowing me. The thing is
you have problems shoving your ideas and views down people's throat.
People have told you that before. It's not just me. You talk to people
like they are stupid and that they don't know anything but only you
do. That's friggen ridiculous. You assume to know more about people
than they know about themselves. That's what you do with me......just
because you are such a fanatic about APD.
so don;'t even go there!