need a bit of advice etc
russiandolly
sketchbooks, work on them, finish them, whatever.
we have little files dedicated to each sketchbook - things to stick in
and to write about and elaborate upon.
we thought we'd start with Rachel's because it is the easiest
she worked very quickly and we had a piece of writing very fast, but
she, or we, or someone, didn't actually *stick* anything in the book.
now, you'd think it would be a case of sticking it all in, writing the
stuff down and that's it but no, of course not. we never make things
simple.
we keep rearranging the pages and every time we end up *so* agitated
that we end up in bad-behaviour land.
very exasperated.
we have *so much* to do.
and this is the easiest book. nothing controversial or anything that
causes argements but... don't know. just want it to be all stuck down
and neat and concise and *done*
keep finding extra things to put in or wondering wether some bits
should be taken out.
overwhelmed
that's the thing
wanting to shout scream stressed
eaten more than we feel comfortable with, both mentally and
physically. not looking forward to living with the repercussions
tomorrow.
there's anger. lots of it. someone shouting. feels like Alice, but
we're not sure as we have a tendenct to attribute *any* anger within
the system to her. she wants to throw Rachel's stupid book at the wall
because it's not what *matters*
know that we'll feel better once we've done these things but...
dunno... it's such hard work. why are we bothering? no one's *asking*
us to do this.
thinking maybe we'll just wait until we next go to t and take it
there, dump it on her half finished and argue in t.
she'll want us to just get on with it but she doesn't understand, it
had to be *right* and if it's not right i'm not sticking it in.
astri
what are the sketchbooks for?
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russiandolly
erm... *scratching head*
dunno... t said something about self-expression. they want to show who
they are
some of them are about memories that they hold
some of them are just things that they like, pictures, drawings,
writing
they feel hugely important but not sure why
they're kind of diaries/scrapbooks etc
astri
> On Nov 14, 10:53 pm, astri <as...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> what are the sketchbooks for?
>
> dunno... t said something about self-expression. they want to show who
> they are
> some of them are about memories that they hold
> some of them are just things that they like, pictures, drawings,
> writing
> they feel hugely important but not sure why
> they're kind of diaries/scrapbooks etc
ah
well, that kind of thing is always a work in progress
never something done
just added to whenever
confuzzled
> erm... *scratching head*
> dunno... t said something about self-expression. they want to show who
> they are
> some of them are about memories that they hold
> some of them are just things that they like, pictures, drawings,
> writing
> they feel hugely important but not sure why
> they're kind of diaries/scrapbooks etc
hmm... we had a thought on this. what was it?
oh. think part of the problem is everything does keep changing. we were
pondering something like a flannel board
(http://babyparenting.about.com/od/activitiesandplay/a/flannelboard.htm).
not sure how you'd do it. but on a flannel board you can move and change
the bits.
<sigh>
having trouble with words today. not sure this makes sense
russiandolly
wrote:
don't worry, we get what you mean :)
everything is held in the sketchbooks with paperclips and so on right
now, which makes the whole thing quite fragile if one of the others
carelessly moves it. ha ha - a little bit like us then!
confuzzled
whew
> everything is held in the sketchbooks with paperclips and so on right
> now, which makes the whole thing quite fragile if one of the others
> carelessly moves it. ha ha - a little bit like us then!
oof well yes
we were pondering starting a journal or something today
don't think we will
astri
> we were pondering starting a journal or something today
> don't think we will
had volumes and volumes of journals
at some point, destroyed them all
destroyed the art journals too
felt safer
russiandolly
we had a diary that we destroyed
regret it now
anything that is tangible proof is precious to us
well, to negotiator at least
astri
> On Nov 22, 5:30 am, astri <as...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, confuzzled wrote:
>>> we were pondering starting a journal or something today
>>> don't think we will
>>
>> had volumes and volumes of journals
>> at some point, destroyed them all
>> destroyed the art journals too
>> felt safer
>
> regret it now
> anything that is tangible proof is precious to us
> well, to negotiator at least
kind of regret the art journals
confuzzled
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, confuzzled wrote:
>
>> we were pondering starting a journal or something today
>> don't think we will
>
> had volumes and volumes of journals
> at some point, destroyed them all
> destroyed the art journals too
> felt safer
>
partly just because writing by hand was too frustrating
and even then, think maybe we'd do deleting
and if we did write something then later we'd be upset because it didn't
seem like something we would/should write
didn't really start journaling until we started seeing pdoc t. and
that's done on the computer
we used to write a lot of poems though and don't have any idea what
happened to them