phone calls
cometz
hanging up after a certain number of rings. at first we got very
freaked out and were considering police reports and restraining order.
then decided we don't really care. is just hir sad, stuck behavior.
know sie isn't dangerous, just really broken.
calls have continued and none of us seems to be bothered or
interested.
interesting. once we remembered the truth of hir it stopped
mattering.
betsy
ubiquity
If it does start bothering, you can get call blocking from the phone
company. Is what we do, and it slowed things down a bit. (We are
blocking about thirty numbers now) Wasn't too much more expensive. Think
three dollars more a month.
(t)
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cometz
except i don't know hir number and sie has it blocked so it doesn't
show in caller id. also sie is unlisted. tried to find it but can't.
is ok, really. would like to block but there is always a chance of
escalation if i did that. again, not dangerous i don't think, but very
messed up. if that started would just go to police. won't tolerate
that stuff again.
betsy
Shiyiya
strength
:)
cometz
yeah. i'm more scared of what's in my memories than stuff going on
outside. :-p
betsy
ubiquity
> On Dec 15, 12:51?pm, ubiquity <ubiqu...@aftertragedy.us> wrote:
>> If it does start bothering, you can get call blocking from the phone
>> company. Is what we do, and it slowed things down a bit. (We are
>> blocking about thirty numbers now) Wasn't too much more expensive. Think
>> three dollars more a month.
>>
>> (t)
>
> show in caller id. also sie is unlisted. tried to find it but can't.
> is ok, really.
We block lots of blocked numbers. We don't usually get any numbers on
the caller id, but the phone company sees the number still to connect
the call. It just blocks it from customers seeing it. How it works here
is if they call, and we need to block it, we call *72, and tell it to
block the last calling party, and it stops it even though we never know
the number.
Problem is there are so many numbers they call from. Seems like
endlessly blocking calls. :/ Wish we could block the callers not just
their phones.
> would like to block but there is always a chance of escalation if i
> did that. again, not dangerous i don't think, but very messed up.
Understand. Anytime we c*t off a line of communication, the door banging
here and honking escalates for a few days. Like with facebook, which
our information there should not be completely gone as off midnight last
night, that night there was long honking while someone drove through the
alley, then someone kicked the door really hard and we jumped real high.
> if that started would just go to police. won't tolerate that stuff
> again.
Good for you. :)
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-ubiquity constellation
cometz
> On 2009-12-15, cometz wrote...
> > On Dec 15, 12:51?pm, ubiquity <ubiqu...@aftertragedy.us> wrote:
> >> If it does start bothering, you can get call blocking from the phone
> >> company. Is what we do, and it slowed things down a bit. (We are
> >> blocking about thirty numbers now) Wasn't too much more expensive. Think
> >> three dollars more a month.
>
> >> (t)
>
> > except i don't know hir number and sie has it blocked so it doesn't
> > show in caller id. also sie is unlisted. tried to find it but can't.
> > is ok, really.
>
> We block lots of blocked numbers. We don't usually get any numbers on
> the caller id, but the phone company sees the number still to connect
> the call. It just blocks it from customers seeing it. How it works here
> is if they call, and we need to block it, we call *72, and tell it to
> block the last calling party, and it stops it even though we never know
> the number.
>
there should be a way to simply give the phone co. a list of numbers
you will accept calls from and then anything else is blocked. if they
had an online service for it you could add numbers like ppl from ss or
the new possible pdoc. then they could never get thru no matter where
they call from or who they are.
> Problem is there are so many numbers they call from. Seems like
> endlessly blocking calls. :/ Wish we could block the callers not just
> their phones.
wish the laws would catch up to stalkers and require long sentences
and severe monitoring on parole so they would be less able to t*rment.
was listening to a woman talking about her many years of being stalked
by a man. was about an hour show and was hideous and frightening. she
was talking but used a fake name. she had changed her name and moved
far away. npr got a letter from her months later that he had found her
again. there needs to be a law that stops them by imprisoning them and
limiting all access to the outside. there are ppl who do not deserve
civil rights cause they abuse them. when someone uses a g*n to hurt
someone they go to jail for that. is no difference. stalking destroys
life. makes me very angry.
>
> > would like to block but there is always a chance of escalation if i
> > did that. again, not dangerous i don't think, but very messed up.
>
> Understand. Anytime we c*t off a line of communication, the door banging
> here and honking escalates for a few days. Like with facebook, which
> our information there should not be completely gone as off midnight last
> night, that night there was long honking while someone drove through the
> alley, then someone kicked the door really hard and we jumped real high.
>
wish there was a way to hook up a camera to get license numbers or
photos of door bangers. then would be something to report to police.
sorry you and your family have to live with this. too make sick and
evl ppl. is very wrong.
> > if that started would just go to police. won't tolerate that stuff
> > again.
>
> Good for you. :)
>
yeah, well, it's taken a long time just to recognize that i have the
right to protect against boundary violations of any kind.
betsy
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astri
> someone who st*lked me in the past has begun making phone calls but
> hanging up after a certain number of rings. at first we got very
> freaked out and were considering police reports and restraining order.
> then decided we don't really care. is just hir sad, stuck behavior.
> know sie isn't dangerous, just really broken.
is sad
> calls have continued and none of us seems to be bothered or
> interested.
>
> interesting. once we remembered the truth of hir it stopped
> mattering.
good
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astri
>> On 2009-12-15, cometz wrote...
>>> someone who st*lked me in the past has begun making phone calls but
>>> hanging up after a certain number of rings. at first we got very
>>> freaked out and were considering police reports and restraining order.
>>> then decided we don't really care. is just hir sad, stuck behavior.
>>> know sie isn't dangerous, just really broken.
>>
>>> calls have continued and none of us seems to be bothered or
>>> interested.
>>
>>> interesting. once we remembered the truth of hir it stopped
>>> mattering.
>>
>>> betsy
>>
>> If it does start bothering, you can get call blocking from the phone
>> company. Is what we do, and it slowed things down a bit. (We are
>> blocking about thirty numbers now) Wasn't too much more expensive. Think
>> three dollars more a month.
>
> show in caller id. also sie is unlisted. tried to find it but can't.
> is ok, really. would like to block but there is always a chance of
> escalation if i did that. again, not dangerous i don't think, but very
> messed up. if that started would just go to police. won't tolerate
> that stuff again.
how do you know is hir if the number is blocked?
cometz
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, cometz wrote:
> > someone who st*lked me in the past has begun making phone calls but
> > hanging up after a certain number of rings. at first we got very
> > freaked out and were considering police reports and restraining order.
> > then decided we don't really care. is just hir sad, stuck behavior.
> > know sie isn't dangerous, just really broken.
>
> is sad
>
yes. very much so. terrible loss of someone very good in many ways.
> > calls have continued and none of us seems to be bothered or
> > interested.
>
> > interesting. once we remembered the truth of hir it stopped
> > mattering.
>
> good
>
> -- astri
>
yes. is a change for us.
betsy
cometz
truly do not know anyone who has our number who would do it. don't
give out number to many ppl. also frequency of calls. also something
sie did a long time ago. calls come at 5am, then again about 8 or 9
then later in the afternoon and then in the evening. is exactly same
number of rings, number is blocked, and if i grab the phone fast and
answer it is hung up. if i don't answer it rings a couple more times
and then sie hangs up. know it is just one inside prolly, who does it.
there just isn't anyone in my current or past life who would do it.
have searched brain to consider other options cause didn't want to
make snap judgment. it is just so like hir and so not like anyone else
i know. have old bf who lives nearby and is very ill but it is not the
kind of stuff he would do. if he were drinking he might call but he
would rant, not hang up. and sober, which he has been for over a year
now, it's not at all what he would do. he is singleton. he is acutely
aware of his behavior, healthy and not healthy. he has much shame and
when sober avoids anything that would increase that feeling in him.
betsy
astri
> On Dec 15, 5:00 pm, astri <as...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> how do you know is hir if the number is blocked?
>
> give out number to many ppl. also frequency of calls. also something
> sie did a long time ago. calls come at 5am, then again about 8 or 9
> then later in the afternoon and then in the evening. is exactly same
> number of rings, number is blocked, and if i grab the phone fast and
> answer it is hung up. if i don't answer it rings a couple more times
> and then sie hangs up. know it is just one inside prolly, who does
> it. there just isn't anyone in my current or past life who would do
> it. have searched brain to consider other options cause didn't want
> to make snap judgment. it is just so like hir and so not like anyone
> else i know. have old bf who lives nearby and is very ill but it is
> not the kind of stuff he would do. if he were drinking he might call
> but he would rant, not hang up. and sober, which he has been for over
> a year now, it's not at all what he would do. he is singleton. he is
> acutely aware of his behavior, healthy and not healthy. he has much
> shame and when sober avoids anything that would increase that feeling
> in him.
k
Puddles
dunno, sounds scary to me.
Puddles
Do they ever give you time to speak? I mean, do the calls ever hesitate
before you hang up?
cometz
yeah. don't like any of it. feels like a reminder of a heavy weight i
tried to carry and couldn't. remember the feeling. is sad feeling.
wish there was a way for hir to find the right help. the extreme
broken pieces and extreme behavior makes it hard, i think. dunno. is
all just a sad thing tho.
betsy
cometz
well, at first was creepy. then just got annoyed cause it is like this
is going to crop up every so often for a long time, apparently. then
got really angry and started thinking police. then realized that would
be terrible for hir. stewed for a few days and then realized it wasn't
really a big deal. was at most an irritation and really, who cares if
the phone rings a few times. it is turned off at nite so the calls
don't bother sleep. has returned to being hir problem. sie is doing
all the work and we don't care. is ok. just sad for hir.
if it escalated, which i don't think it would, i will call police. not
worried about it. just a thing in the background. a reminder at most.
mostly the reminder is why we stayed away from hir in the first
place.
but not scared. is just pointless and sad.
betsy
cometz
i don't hang up, sie does. mostly i just let it ring the three rings
that keep it from going to machine but long enough to be heard and
then sie hangs up. when i grab phone fast it is hung up instantly. no
pause. which also makes me think there is fear in this behavior as
well.
it's just mostly something that is sad. broken person. very much
broken. is truly a sorrow to know this.
betsy
astri
yes