something cool
mischa bach
I did. Since it ain't okay (hasn't been in a really loooong while) for me
(us) to go out at night to do graffitis and since oil pastels wear out our
joints I've wanted to try acryl for what seems like ages. Stupidly enough,
the flat isn't that big and not a real good place to mess with colours. Hence
I had to wait for weather suiting the purpose. Well, after two failed
attempts - every time I gladly finished dragging out colours and stuff to the
terrace it started to drizzle - I finally did it. I did my first acryl
painting. And so far I absolutely love the colours. They are soooo cool. Plus
I finally figured out I dont like to sit while I'm working with colours. So
the terrace and all that suits me fine.
Punk
Jill
stand to put over your work so it will stay dry even in a drizzle?
I'm glad you can do arcrylics but it's a bummer you can't do
pastels. those are my art of choice.
Rainbow Colors (Jill)
In article <zvfpunonpuoynoyhojr...@news.t-online.de>,
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The colors blend, the edges soften. Swirling and mixing
we are becoming white light.
ji...@tuells.org
mischa bach
hm never occured to me there would be something like an umbrella on a stand.
but it sounds like a good idea. or maybe our SO (hehe this looks silly but
even a bit like him - not the silly part, though *gg*) will figure something
else out. he seemed sorta impressed and sorta happy bout the colours and all
that (and I aint ever sure whether or not he likes _me_ ... oh well ... he
seems to like me painting ;-). I guess it would be possible to put some
umbrella-like thingy on the wall (heck I dunno the name for those things ...
they're pretty common though mostly they are used to get some shade - do you
know what I mean?). but an umbrella on a stand could be carried wherever one
wants it. hm, must find out if I can get such a thing here, I think.
well we can do pastels and I'm sure I'll do oil pastels again yet the problem
with them is a) you can only do huge formats if you want to do any details
and b) back, neck and hands need to be in a good shape or else we'll have to
deal with a lotta pain afterwards. do you prefer soft pastels or oil pastels?
I once did a comic/graphic novel illustration style picture with oil pastels
... something like hum 80 X 120 cm that looked real cool. with soft pastels
we don't have any problems. only the last pistures done with them forced
those who wanted to have those pictures to install special lights for them
cuz we came up with a weird technique working on rather dark coloured
cardbox"paper" (sorry I cant seem to find the right words today so I can only
hope you still can figure out what I'M talking about).
oh well ... Fletcher wants to get started with the play. so I better send
this and give him some time & space. after all, he didn't get around to write
yesterday cuz I was painting ...
hugs if okay,
Punk
Jill
In article <zvfpunonpuoynoyhojr...@news.t-online.de>,
mischa bach <mischa_bach{blablub}@web.de> wrote:
>hi RC
>
>well we can do pastels and I'm sure I'll do oil pastels again yet the problem
>with them is a) you can only do huge formats if you want to do any details
>and b) back, neck and hands need to be in a good shape or else we'll have to
>deal with a lotta pain afterwards. do you prefer soft pastels or oil pastels?
I use either and I do relatively small pictures. You are right there
is little detail but i small pictures of big things *grin* like a
rock face as seen from far away. Actually the reason I like pastels
is because they don't do details. My stuff is kind of 'dreamy like'.
Rainbow Colors (Jill)
>I once did a comic/graphic novel illustration style picture with oil pastels
>... something like hum 80 X 120 cm that looked real cool. with soft pastels
>we don't have any problems. only the last pistures done with them forced
>those who wanted to have those pictures to install special lights for them
>cuz we came up with a weird technique working on rather dark coloured
>cardbox"paper" (sorry I cant seem to find the right words today so I can only
>hope you still can figure out what I'M talking about).
>
>oh well ... Fletcher wants to get started with the play. so I better send
>this and give him some time & space. after all, he didn't get around to write
>yesterday cuz I was painting ...
>
>hugs if okay,
>Punk
Beauty
- so maybe soon - beautys.
mischa bach
hehe maybe our dreams sometimes come with more details than yours? ;-) I
dunno, as I said, I love oil pastels. I even love huge paintings and doing
them. but often we cannot pay the price, so to say. which means we cannot
afford to do such a painting and then be in pain for days with hands we
cannot use at all. *sigh*
in the past, when we first started working with oil pastels, when I did that,
too, well, that was easier. back then, I was still using and that was really
effective with the pain ... but now ... oh well, we'll see. maybe the
acryllics are really a good choice? hehe and if you'd like to try them, you
might just wanna use a huge brush wish don't allow you details. *gg*
punk
Tess
ones cause you pain and others don't?
tv, who is not an artist
"mischa bach" <mischa_bach{blablub}@web.de> wrote in message
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sascha
Haven't done either for a whole year with the moving to this house.
Maybe soon. I like oils. I can move the colours around and mix them
and stuff. Cool. jane.
"mischa bach" <mischa_bach{blablub}@web.de> wrote in message news:<zvfpunonpuoynoyhojr...@news.t-online.de>...
mischa bach
well soft pastels are easy to handle i.e. you don't need no pressure to get
the colour come off the "crayon" (well this bar which is actually the paint.
dunno the proper English term for it) and stick to the paper. oil pastels
need a lotta pressure i.e. you can't draw with them like you'd draw with a
pencil or paint with a brush, you need to really work the colour into the
paper or whatever you're painting on. and that's hard on our joints and
fingers and hands.
hm I hope I didn't misunderstand your question and I also hope my replay
makes sense to you
punk
who doesn't know what he is ;-)
Tess
answer makes a lot of sense. thanks for enlightening me :-).
tv
trill
You go, Punk!
trill, a fan
mischa bach <mischa_bach{blablub}@web.de> wrote in message
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Jill
mischa bach <mischa_bach{blablub}@web.de> wrote:
>hi the question isn't naive ... ;-)
>well soft pastels are easy to handle i.e. you don't need no pressure to get
>the colour come off the "crayon" (well this bar which is actually the paint.
>dunno the proper English term for it) and stick to the paper. oil pastels
>need a lotta pressure i.e. you can't draw with them like you'd draw with a
>pencil or paint with a brush, you need to really work the colour into the
>paper or whatever you're painting on. and that's hard on our joints and
>fingers and hands.
>hm I hope I didn't misunderstand your question and I also hope my replay
>makes sense to you
>
>punk
>who doesn't know what he is ;-)
Wow, now I'm really curious what you use. The oil pastels I use look
like crayons. They are relatively soft and require just a small bit
of pressure to get onto the paper (I use paper specifically designe
for pastels when I use oils btw cause it 'takes' better and is
easier to 'fix' after so it won't get ruined over time). I can rub
oil into the paper with just a bit of finger pressure. Nothing too
strenous... Next time I am near my art supplies I'll check on the
brand name and see if you have them/use them.
Rainbow Colors (Jill)
mischa bach
most of the time I aint too sure I'm making sense ;-)
punk
(who isn't sure right now whether or not to wish the left hand should get
better or not. if it gets better, Fletcher will sure wanna continue writing
the play. and it means no pain. but if it doesnt get better, there'll be pain
but I get time to paint some more as I paint right-handed *ambiguouus* ;-)))
mischa bach
most of our oil pastels come from austia (don't ask me why ;-) from a company
called k*h-i-n**r (* = o).
now you got me curious - are your oil pastels a lot like the soft ones, ie. a
bit on the "dusty side"? like if you blow at the painting, there'll be some
whirling coloured dust?
would be really interesting to learn what your oil stuff is like. cuz I don't
think I'll be able to do acryllics in winter. that would end up far too
messy, I'd say. ;-)
punk
trill
I didn't realize that you are a graffitti artist. I think it is
"something cool," way cool. I think that grafitti art is super.
You and the bunch of personalities in the misha's chaos system have a
gazillion talents. You guys always amaze me.
I think you should try some team work and put a movie together. Really.
To do so is always a dream of mine, But, you seem to have more of
the needed taent for it than I. Do you have any access to resources for
attempting such a project.
trill
mischa bach <mischa_bach{blablub}@web.de> wrote in message
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mischa bach
I aint no graffitti artist and I dunno if I qualified as one when I still did
them years and years ago. it was fun. and I was weird cuz I didn't do any
written stuff, just colours, very much like very modern abstract/concrete
"art". well, apart from one special graffiti but that's another story.
also ... we do movies in the way we do scripts. dunno if we'd be interested
in anything else. maybe acting since people start to tell us we should do
this when they hear us read (but then they dunno how we as a we/as many do
readings ;-))). maybe we'd like to be producers - plot out the stuff writing
the script and then have the control about all the rest without having to
work so hard like e.g. a director quarelling with the actors etc. ;-)))
but why shouldnt you be able to do a movie if you want to do one? what kinda
movie would ya like to do?
punk
Beauty
they are fantastic. You can work on them on a flat surface (which we
like a lot), or on a vertical surface (cover a wall w/a big piece of
paper to make sure the wall doesn't get pastels on it, and then put your
art paper over it - and make sure you put something under, on the floor
to catch the dust - same on flat surface - put something under to
protect surface and catch dust). If you have problems w/dust, this is
not prolly a comfortable medium for you. Another solution is to use -
really good - colored pencil. They also come in stick form (bar form) -
that kind is hard to find, so you have to go to a good art store. We use
Prismacolor (used to be Berol, but someone else - Stanford?) bought them
out. Or - aquarelle - which can be used just as plain colored pencil, or
you can work water into, w/them or dip them into water - they become as
watercolor. Watercolor is wonderful, too. Not a very "forgiving" medium
- once you make a mark, it's there. *But* - you can buy semi-good
watercolor paper for not too very much and then you just make lots, and
some will look good and some won't.
Beauty (arbitrarily stopping herself from writing about art all night)
Beauty
You can almost "paint" w/them.
Beauty.